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    The first posting looked very good, though somewhat longer than my attention span could handle. I’ll try to make it through it some time. I do recommend the enlightening Targum Yonasan on the brochos which expands on them considerably (and especially with the biur on the Targum Yonasan in the Oz v’Hadar Mikraos Gedolos). Also the Ohr HaChaim. It makes me feel good that people are using the Coffee Room for Iyun Torah.

    in reply to: Shingles – davening for others #1931377
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    Thanks to everyone who answered my original post. In response to various points: I did have chicken pox around 65 years ago. When I asked my Rav he certainly understood that I would be davening for others in the hope of getting answered for myself, and he still thought it was a good idea. I’ll daven for Mrs. CTL, may things go easy for her. I’ve been saying the possuk with כי אני השם רופאך three times every morning (with targum), it didn’t stop me from getting it but may have helped in terms of keeping my case relatively light, bli ayin horo. Another important tefilla is from the Sefer Shomer Emunim:
    אני מאמין באמונה שלמה, שזה הצער והיסורים שבא לי הוא בהשגחה פרטית מעם ה’, והנני מקבל עלי באהבה, וכל זה בא לי מסבות עונותי הרבים, וצדיק אתה ה’ על כל הבא עלי כי אמת עשית ואני הרשעתי. ויהי רצון שיהיו אלו היסורים לכפרה על עונותי הרבים (ואם בעת רצון יאמר גם כן ולהקל בזה צער שכינת עוזינו כביכול וצערן של ישראל). והנה מצד הדין הייתי צריך לפרט ולשוב ולהתודות על החטא והעון שבסיבתם בא לי אלו היסורים, אבל גלוי וידוע לפניך שאין אתי יודע עד מה.

    לכן יהי רצון מלפניך אבי שבשמים, שתמחוק ותשרש החטא ועון ופשע שגרמו לי אלו היסורים, ויומתקו כל הדינים מעלי ומעל כל ישראל, ויתהפכו כל הצרופים לטובה, וימשך חסדים טובים ומגולים לנו ולכל בית ישראל עד עולם אמן.

    ואם יאמר זה הנוסח, אז נמתקים ממנו בעזרת ה’ כל הדינים, ויתהפכו כל הצרופים לטובה, ויהיו היסורים כפרה לכל עוונותיו, בפרט אם ירגיל עצמו לומר זאת גם על כל דבר קטן, אז אין שיעור לגודל נחת רוח שיגרום לקב”ה בזה, ושמחה בכל העולמות, כי דרכו של אלקינו לנסות את האדם באמונתו, ואם מתחזק באמונת ה’, אז גם אם נגזרה עליו גזרה ח”ו, נמתק הדין מעליו.

    in reply to: character vs policy Which is more important? #1916698
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    I don’t understand why discussions like this ignore all the solid Republican conservatives, Bush, Romney, Bolton, Tillerson, etc., some of whom have worked closely with Trump and who feel that Biden is clearly the lesser of the evils. These are people who are concerned with results, who probably find it very hard to endorse a Democrat, but still feel that Trump is a clear and present danger. Why don’t we listen to their opinions?

    in reply to: Charedim Voting for Biden: Please Respond #1914636
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    The real question should be why are people like George W. Bush, Mitt Romney, John Bolton, Michael Cohen, Rex Tillerson, and many others voting against Trump, people whose conservative credentials are not at all in question and some of whom have worked closely with him. Bolton was quoted in the Modia as saying that Putin plays him like a fiddle. Cohen, who was his lawyer for many years and saw first hand how he operates, writes that Trump has turned the DOJ into a torpedo to be used against his enemies. Many other of his former staffers say it’s important to get him out of power. He has largely succeeded in totally overturning the constitutional system of checks and balances designed to deny from a president the absolute power he craves. Even if he remains sympathetic to us (and he is notoriously volatile in his loyalties), who’s to say that some less friendly figure might later manage to come into power and use that freedom from checks and balances in ways that we might not find so agreeable. Many many conservative Republicans consider Biden, with all his failings and dangers, the lesser of the evils. Watch out.

    in reply to: Straight Republican Ticket #1912364
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    Someone asked me in shul this evening if I support Biden, to which I called him the ra b’miyuto, the lesser of the evils. Then I said midvar sheker tirchak, keep away from someone who is arguably the biggest liar ever in American politics. I didn’t mention that it’s probably unprecedented in political history for all previous Republican presidents and presidential candidates to support a Democrat. Another deciding factor is that DT proudly proclaims his disdain for all the scientists and all the scientific evidence of the massive and accelerating destruction of human lives (Harvey and Irma to name but a few) being caused by climate change.

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    Can someone explain why George W. Bush, Mitt Romney, John Bolton and Cindy McCain, among many other republicans, are voting for Biden?

    in reply to: Name a Gadol That Endorsed Biden #1903053
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    Several points:
    No one is addressing the large number of Republicans, include Bush and Romney, who are voting for Biden. Not to mention all the former Trump staffers (including Bolton) and intelligence officials who feel that Biden is far better for the country than Trump. Please express your feelings about this.

    Concerning Obama’s record/legacy: One thing that has been largely ignored is the April 2010 Nuclear Security Summit in which 47 heads of state met in the White House to discuss ways to prevent nuclear materials in their control from falling into terrorist hands. Al Queida and others had been trying their best to get hold of whatever nuclear materials they could through all kinds of seemingly legitimate fronts and proxies, and Obama did everything he could as president to persuade the largest gathering of heads of state in the White House since 1945 to coordinate their efforts in this area. We may never know what he succeeded in preventing (as Paul Krugman once wrote, “One terrorist nuke made from FSU fissionable materials can spoil your whole day.”) but the consequences, if unknown, may we have been extremely significant. I once saw a Palestinian leader quoted, “The day we get a nuclear weapon, that day we use it.” Obama did this in cooperation with the leading Republican experts in the field. It didn’t have much political traction at the time.

    in reply to: Name a Gadol That Endorsed Biden #1899730
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    Sayag LeChachma – you wrote “first of all, wikipedia? You do know it’s editable, right?”

    1) Wikipedia is not entirely hefker, if something gets posted without a source their referees don’t considerable reliable it gets taken down. The things I quoted from there were backed up by articles published in respected journals. If you have anything from credible sources that shows that Trump is indeed a reliably truthful person you can and should post it on Wikipedia to clear his name.
    2) And if you were to be convinced that he is indeed the baal sheker muvhak that those sources suggest, would the possukim I cited and the many many Chazals that talk about sheker be relevant to a decision as to whether to support him, and if not why not? Please enlighten us.

    in reply to: Name a Gadol That Endorsed Biden #1899321
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    I’m not saying קבלו דעתי, you have to accept my opinions, but at least please discuss them objectively and rationally. I agree that Hashem decides who wins and am waiting to see what He decides, but I’m concerned that if Trump wins the world may in for some very serious consequences. May Hashem protect us.

    in reply to: Name a Gadol That Endorsed Biden #1899320
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    Sayag LeChachma – Wikipedia or not, are you claiming that Trump is so committed to being truthful? His own sister, a retired federal appeals judge, says he’s totally untrustworthy. I don’t know, there might be valid reasons to support him, but don’t glorify him or make him out to be anything other than a very very big b’dieved. Regarding the other points I made, the ACA, global warming and the Republicans who oppose him, I would like to see substantive discussion about their merits and think they need to be discussed rationally, because many many lives are at stake. My own theory, only a theory, is that Hashem is rewarding him in this world for those genuine good deeds he’s done, אל תתיאש מן הפרוענות. Another point: NYS prosecutors are in possession of lots of hard copy evidence of serious financial crimes he’s committed (apart from testimony of his former lawyers and associates) for which others have served significant prison time. He knows about these things and has devoted a good part of his presidency to corrupting the justice system in order to keep himself out of jail. Is that someone we want to have in charge of the country? Again, I’d like to see serious rational discussion of these issues.

    in reply to: Name a Gadol That Endorsed Biden #1899287
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    From Wikipedia: “White House scholars and other students of government agree there has never been a president like Donald Trump, whose volume of falsehoods, misstatements and serial exaggerations” are unparalleled.” “A Fact Checker column tallied untrue or misleading statements, with the database reaching 20,000 on July 9, 2020.”
    From Tehillim 119: שקר שנאתי, ואתעבה; תורתך אהבתי, I hate falsehood, I despise it;
    שָׂנֵאתִי כָּל-אֹרַח שָׁקֶר, I hate every way of falsehood,
    דֶּרֶךְ-שֶׁקֶר, הָסֵר מִמֶּנִּי, Remove the way of falsehood from me
    Aren’t we told that Hashem’s stamp is truth? Can someone explain to me how a gadol or anyone who bases his life on Torah support someone who’s life has been so riddled with sheker, or believe that he would have any genuine help from Heaven? Maybe there’s something I don’t see, I would like to be shown it. True, the other side affiliates with positions we don’t always like, but …
    Several other issues that seem critical to me:
    1) Trump would get rid of the ACA, which has saved many many lives (presumably many of them Jewish lives), especially in the current pandemic.
    2) Trump denies global warming, which is accelerating and has already upended millions of lives (Harvey and Irma to name but a few instances) and is expected to wreck major havoc on the world in many increasing ways in the future. His sympathies are with the oil billionaires and not with the people whose homes and lives have been and stand to be destroyed.
    3) Many, many prominent Republicans, including many diplomats and intelligence people, are supporting Biden, something unprecedented in history. Those who voted for Romney note that he’s voting for Biden.

    in reply to: Does anyone know a good chumash shiur ? #1870189
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    on chabad.org there’s a complete set of shiurim from Rav Yehoshua Gordon ztl where he reads every possuk and every Rashi with very knowledgeable explanations spiced with interesting stories

    in reply to: Hitch Hikers In Lakewood Ticketed By Police Story #1582635
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    If it’s illegal why doesn’t dinei d’malchusa apply? In general, I’d think askanim guided by Rabbanim should issue guidelines how to act.

    in reply to: Don’t move to Lakewood before having a school 4 the kids #1563169
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    For those thinking of moving to Eretz Yisroel, make sure you have a viable chinuch option that doesn’t involve “Chareidi” schools that have been taken over by the anti-Torah Misrad HaChinuch which is dictating curriculum, teacher hiring, hashkofo, etc. They’re using all their governmental power to ensure that the coming generation grows up with as little yiras Shamaim as possible, Hashem Yishmereinu. A lot of French immigrants have been horrified to discover what’s happened to their children’s yiras Shamaim in the schools the immigration agencies assigned them to. Beware.

    in reply to: Hashkafic views on taking money from the medinah #1415583
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    Not that he necessarily wanted them but recognized that some roads and social services were necessary to survive. But he will unwilling to allow “modern society” to destroy (as it was trying very hard to do) the traditional Torah values that had enabled the Jewish people to maintain its independence and identity — as Hashem’s people — for generations and centuries and not be assimilated into the nations around them. I don’t know if he’d heard of Mark Twain’s famous quote — The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greek and the Roman followed, and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other peoples have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?” — but R’ Amram certainly understood the “secret” that Twain was talking about and was fighting to preserve it. And so are many others today.

    As soon as the Chazon Ish heard that R’ Amram was being held in prison (for protesting chilul Shabbos) he insisted on going to visit him immediately to give him support. The charges against him were eventually dropped because the government didn’t want to give him his day in court, where they were very much afraid of what he would say.

    in reply to: Hashkafic views on taking money from the medinah #1415498
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    Even R’ Amram Blau, ztl, possibly the greatest opponent of Zionism, accepted the legitimacy of using basic government services — utilities, streets, etc. — as he said, someone being held in prison however much he opposes the legitimacy of prison authorities is totally entitled to stay alive by eating the food they serve him. I think he also accepted the need to obey traffic laws and the like. What he opposed was accepting any money for education, which gave them the power to dictate curriculum. And this the Bennet Education Ministry has increasingly been doing, sending in “supervisors” with the power to fire teachers and cut off school funding who’ve been forbidding teaching things like the works of the six days of Creation or the 39 malachos of Shabbos as being too confusing for young children, as if generations of centuries of Jewish children have grown up confused. This is a very deliberate plan resulting from the Trachtenberg Commission of some years ago who realized that if unchecked the Chareidim are soon going to make up a very large proportion of the Jewish population and the best way to stop this is by seizing control of their minds at the youngest ages and eliminating as much chinuch for emuna as they can.
    IMHO we need to strengthen our emuna that Hashem is behind all of this and testing us to see who really believes in Him, similar to the 80% of the Jews who didn’t want to leave Mitzraim and were killed during the plague of darkness. There’s a lot more to be said about this, but these are some main points.

    in reply to: The Casualties of Yiddish in Litvishe Chadorim #1361899
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    Rabbi Avigdor Miller, ztl, held that anyone who could speak Yiddish to their children should do so (and left instructions that as many of his descendants as possible should grow up speaking Yiddish) so that they should know that they’re different from the Goyim around them. Based on this I recommend that anyone who can speak any kind of Yiddish to his children should do so, (even if it’s not the best Yiddish the children won’t so much know the difference and they’ll grow up used to hearing it and won’t have problems when they start in school). Recent research has shown that children who are exposed to multiple languages do much better on intelligence tests, having to juggle different languages seems to stimulate parts of the brain that promote intelligence.

    in reply to: I Hope Trump Gets Impeached 🎺🍑 #1280542
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    I’ve heard that bookmakers in Las Vegas are giving odds on Trump’s likelihood of surviving a year in office. Does anyone know what odds they’re giving?

    in reply to: The Meeting With the Pope That Is Now Viral #1272544
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    In a published interview, R’ Amram Blau, ztl, remembers that Dr. DeHaan, Hy”d, arranged for a telegram to be sent (he doesn’t say to whom but from the context I presume to the British Colonial Official which was then the governing body over Eretz Yisroel) protesting Zionist persecution of religion. The telegram he says was signed by Rav Yosef Chaim Zonnenfeld and, l’hebadel elef havdalas (his lashon), the Mufti and the Pope in Rome. If this is true, it suggests that Rav Zonnenfeld, ztl, felt it was acceptable to collaborate with the Pope for worthy purposes. If anyone has any ideas how to get more info about this alleged telegram, I’m very interested to hear.

    I’ve heard it said that Reb Aharon Kotler, ztl, said he would even kiss Hitler ym”s if by doing so he could save one Jewish life, not that I’m suggesting that this Pope is to be compared to Hitler.

    in reply to: “Yom HaShoah”-A Zionist Fraud #1264344
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    Don’t have time to read over everything. One point to keep in mind is that many if not most of those who perished in the holocaust were deeply religious Jews who wanted nothing other than for their children to continue in their derech. When the children reached Eretz Yisroel, most of them were denied any kind of religious education and to their great distress were not allowed to say Kaddish for their parents, and were even in many cases punished if they did manage somehow to say Kaddish. This is only a small part of how the children were forcibly secularized, even though they knew that their parents certainly wanted them to stay frum.

    in reply to: Obama farewell #1192649
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    Under whose presidency did Pollard get out, in spite of the strong objections of most of the top people in the security establishment? Also the ACA has saved a lot of lives by giving hospitals incentives to use previously known but ignored procedures to prevent infections–look up Dr. Peter Pronovost’s work. Under BO US Israeli military cooperation reached an all time high.

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    One thing people are forgetting is that he did a lot to prevent nuclear weapons materials from falling into the hands of AlQueida and the like. It’s hard to know if they would have gotten a hold of such materials without his efforts but it’s known that they were trying very hard and almost succeeded a few times and he persuaded a lot of countries to increase their protection.

    in reply to: Should a frum girl be in Los Vegas by Herself? #1188188
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    IMHO they should ask their Rav, and/or the hanahala of the school she went to. Also contact whatever kehila there is in Las Vegas (at least Chabad, I’m sure, and possibly more) and ask them how serious the dangers are and how she can be protected from them if she does go.

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    Rav Yisroel Yaakov Fischer, zatzal, many of whose rulings were widely respected, poskened that voting was an issur of ye’hareig v’al ya’avor, since the Bagatz has ruled that in order to take the loyalty oath required to be seated in the Knesset one has to believe that the laws of the state have supremacy over any other laws, including Torah laws, chas v’shalom. Rav Moshe Sterbuch, shlita, once pointed out that ye’hareig v’al ya’avor overrides all other considerations and gave an example that if a group of a thousand Jews is surrounded by a far larger force of goyim and the goyim demand that the Jews choose on of their number to give over to the goyim to be killed, and if they don’t give one Jews over the goyim will come and kill the whole thousand, chas v’shalom. Still, it’s asur to give over one Jew to be killed under any and all circumstances, even in a case like this where the one Jews they would have given over and all the others will get killed.

    in reply to: Yehareig V'al Yaavor? #1093724
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    Even not in a time of gezeiras ha-shmad, however, it is never allowed to violate the “big three” or even to say that one is an idol worshipper in order to save one’s life.

    in reply to: Yehareig V'al Yaavor? #1093723
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    My understanding is that in a time of gezeiras ha-shmad, i.e. when goyim are trying to force Jews to violate the Torah just for the sake of violating the Torah and giving up Judaism, then it is required to give up one’s life rather than violate any mitzva or halacha however minor it may seem (the example given is if goyim wear red shoelaces and Jews wear black shoelaces, then in a time of gezeiras ha-shmad a Jew is required to give up his life rather than wear red shoelaces). If, however, the goy needs the labor of a Jewish prisoner or slave-laborer on Shabbos for his own benefit, but doesn’t otherwise care if the Jew keeps Shabbos on his own time or not, and it’s not a time of gezeiras ha-shmad, then the Jew is allowed to work on Shabbos. But the halachos (Yoreh Deah 157) are more intricate than I’ve been able to present them here so don’t do anything without learning them carefully and asking a Rav. May Hashem protect all of us from being subjected to such trials.

    in reply to: Moshiach is COMING #1026292
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    Patur Aval Assur:

    But why do we want to do Torah and mitzvos? ?? ???? ?????? ??????? ?? ??? ?? ??? ???? ??? ??? ??? ?????? ??????? ?? ??? ??? ?? ??? ???? ???. Hashem created the world for His glory (cf. last Mishna in Avos ?”?) and all our Torah and mitzvos should be – ????? – directed towards that. But I suspect we don’t really disagree.

    in reply to: Moshiach is COMING #1026289
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    The question is are we doing as much as we can to bring him. According to the Mesillas Yesharim one fundamental principle is to remember why we want him, not so that our lives will be better or so that the goyim will treat us better. We should want him because when he comes everyone will recognize how great Hashem is and how He rules each and every minute detail of the world with total absolute justice. If we would focus on this and forget about all the other reasons, that could only help bring him sooner.

    in reply to: The Shmira Project – For Active Duty Combat Soldiers #1026263
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    gram – I appreciate your chizuk. Everyone, please tell your friends and neighbors.

    in reply to: The Shmira Project – For Active Duty Combat Soldiers #1026260
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    All the davening is very important. I want to suggest two segulos that everyone can do almost all the time and which might well save lives.

    1) Saying the name of Avraham Avinu’s mother is said to protect from danger — Amaslai bas Karnevo. Rabbonim have told me that it can be said even in unclean places and with an unclear body or hands.

    2) Before Lt. Birenbaum, ?”?, went to fight in WWII, Rav Hutner, ??”?, told him to say Psalm 91 and in particular verse 7: ???? ???? ??? ????? ????? ???? ?? ???, A thousand will fall from your side, and ten thousand will not approach your right side.

    ?? ????? ????? ?? ??? – every Jew has a part in every other Jew, so if one person is doing these things at a moment when one some other Jew needs the protection it can help. Please spread these ideas as widely as possible, the more people who do it can only help.

    in reply to: Shachris w/o minyiin??? #1070473
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    Start by appreciating that the value of every word of Torah and Tefilla that we say is infinite, and that we should be incredibly grateful to Hashem for allowing us to know that we have Someone to daven to and Someone Whose Torah to learn (the vast majority of people in the world don’t know these things). Once we start with that, all the details do certainly need to be worked out, but keep them in perspective that those are just details and the main thing is that we know and appreciate that there is a Main Thing.

    in reply to: Why don't the Rabbonim enforce Tznius? #967321
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    I’m not going to try to go through all the posts here. The one thing I’d like to suggest is that everyone try to look at accounts written by people, especially women, who’ve had near death experiences and see what they learned about tznius issues during their experiences in the next world, which is where we’ll all be spending eternity. There’s one by a Toldos Aharon woman from about 25 years ago, who lived by TA standards and still had a hair-raising time. Look at three things and you won’t do aveiros … before Whom you will inevitably (without any possibility of escape) have to give a din v’cheshbon. True, I should pay attention to this myself.

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    in reply to: Desperate husbands facing divorce #762118
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    If this is any help: There’s no way of knowing for sure but this has the sound of a tikkun from some previous gilgul. In any case, one essential eitza is pouring your heart out to Hashem day and night, as if He were actually sitting in front of you (which He is). He’ll help.

    in reply to: Desperate husbands facing divorce #762113
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    Emuna’s posts are indeed wonderful, and I know a number of people who’ve found great solace and inspiration in the Garden of Emuna. My humble contribution is to urge you to find not only a lawyer whom you trust but, more importantly, a Rav whom you trust and whom you feel understands you and let him guide you as to how to proceed in everything. Hatzlocho.

    in reply to: Ground Zero Mosque #1096770
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    1) A few years ago I saw that one high Israeli security official told the Kenesset that we have to thank the Creator that 90% of planned terrorist attacks had been stopped. How were they stopped? Because moderate Arabs informed on their fellow Arabs to the Israeli security forces. It’s very much to our advantage to encourage moderate Arabs, even if we don’t agree with them completely. This happens in other places too, as when Muslims informed on fellow Muslims who were planning a chemical explosion on a flight from London.

    2) All the arguments that it’s insensitive to hold prayer services so close the point where Muslims did so much damage leave me concerned that the Arabs could similarly claim that it’s insensitive for Jews to daven in Ma’aras HaMachpelah after what Boruch Goldstein did there.

    2) It’s not to our advantage to set precedents for restricting religious freedom.

    in reply to: Legalizing Marijuana – Against Torah? #636776
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    Marijuana is addicting and psychologically dangerous and no one with any yiras Shamayim should touch it (and anyone who, R”L does use it should be given a lot of loving help to stop, and a lot of tefilos). ???? ????? ??? ??????? ?? ???? ?????. The question is whether, given its widespread availability now, the advantages of decriminalizing it in terms of lowering the amount of secondary criminal activity (theft by users to support their habits and violence among competitive dealers etc.) outweigh the consequences of making it more easily available. I’m sure this has been extensively studied, and I’m sure those studies will be carefully taken into account by gedolei poskim who look into the question, and I suspect that their opinions will carry a lot of weight in Shamayim in deciding whether to let the government legalize it. Let’s daven that the right decisions are made to make society into a safer and healthier place.

    in reply to: Eretz Yisroel #636818
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    I have been told by several people (one of them a close talmid of Rav Shach, zatzal, now a well known Rosh Yeshiva but I don’t want to mention his name without his permission) that Rav Shach, zatzal, said that l’shita he agreed with the Satmar Rav a hundred percent, just that he felt that l’maaseh it was impossible to follow it in the present time. The Brisker Rav and his children went further and opposed any form of participation in the Medina, including taking any kind of money for Torah education.

    Concerning Rav Hutner, zatzal, in an article in the Jewish Observer of Oct 77 (written by Rabbi Yaakov Feitman based on talks by Rav Hutner) he placed a lot of blame for the Holocaust very directly on the Zionist movement. To say that quoting R’ Elchonon, zatzukel, is irrelevant because he was niftar before the Medina is to my mind questionable. R’ Elchonon writes in print (Kovetz Maamarim) that the leadership of the Zionist movement were Amalekim no less than the Yevsektsia in Stalinist Russia and that the Land will inevitably vomit them out. His son R’ Simcha, zatzal, refused to join calls to participate in elections in spite of great pressure that was put on him to do so (and himself always made a point of being abroad during elections). IMHO the burden of proof rests on someone who would claim that R’ Elchonon would have changed his opinion once the medina came into existence, would he have held that the spiritual forces of Amalek would have abandoned the movement once it became a medina? Concerning the Satmar Rav, even if he was a “solitary voice” (which is far from the case), he enjoyed enormous respect from all the gedolim for his unshakeable honesty, courage and kedusha, in spite of the ferocity with which he opposed them on many issues. One last point, even though for many people on both sides of these questions the questions have indeed become “stuck in concrete”, I don’t think that excuses reasonable people from attempting to carry on reasoned discussion of the issues in an attempt to ascertain the truth of the Torah as seen by gedolim.

    in reply to: Israels Disproportionate Response #629816
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    It is told that when the Steipler, zatzal, was asked about the invasion of Lebanon in 5742 he answered that it would require Urim v’Tumim to make such a decision. The situation then wasn’t so different, the north was getting bombarded constantly. Among other things, there is a question of balancing the likelihood of stopping the rockets from Gaza (which even the IDF admits is probably not likely to happen completely) against attacks like the one in Golders Green last week, may Hashem prevent them from escalating. Tefilla, tefilla, tefilla.

    in reply to: Text Message Warning #630307
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    From bitachoncoaching it sounds like such a warning was genuinely given, the question is how to react to it. It should be put to gedolei ha-dor and see what they say to do. They are our eyes and ears.

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