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Yankel berel your second to last post makes no sense. Is that sheeple speak. Humanity is an essential part of ideology….not sure what you mean by that. I’m saying dont lose your humanity for your ideology. There is a difference between those. I’m talking about conscience and, belief systems. Your beliefs systems are your beliefs. And your conscience is your humanity. First comes your humanity, decency, common sense, wisdom, then maybe comes delusion (ideology)
Another point: Elitism and censorship often intersect when ruling groups, or elites, suppress information to maintain power, control narratives, and define cultural, political, or social norms. Elites, believed to possess superior qualifications, may use censorship to exclude opposing views or alternative perspectives. This suppression can take the form of book bans, media control, or digital restrictions, ultimately limiting free expression and reducing public discourse to authorized viewpoints.
Key Aspects of Elitism and Censorship:
Power Consolidation: Censorship is frequently employed by elites to protect their authority and suppress dissenting voices, particularly in authoritarian regimes.
Cultural and Intellectual Control: Elitism can manifest in determining what constitutes “high” culture or worthy knowledge, leading to the marginalization or suppression of alternative viewpoints.
Information Management: Elites may act as gatekeepers, selecting, altering, or destroying information that contradicts their narrative or interests.
Impact on Society: Censorship enforced by elite structures can hinder critical thinking, limit access to diverse perspectives, and stifle social, political, or artistic expression.Don’t be an elitist and stop censuring everybody. You can’t control the narrative. Everyone is entitled to their own oppion even if it contradicts yours. You cannot learn and grow if only one narrative is allowed. That’s like saying only people with brown hair can exist. Not everyone has brown hair. That doesn’t give you a right to “other” people. Carpamentalize, or censure them. We are talking about human concepts and just like you have a right to speak….so do I.
“Elitism and cruelty often intersect when individuals or groups in positions of power or influence use their status to disregard, belittle, or marginalize others they perceive as inferior. This form of elitism is not merely about superiority in ability or achievement, but about emotional and social cruelty—dismissing others’ experiences, trivializing their struggles, and enforcing social hierarchies through condescension.
Cruelty in elitism manifests in several ways:
Dismissal of struggles: Elitists may trivialize the challenges faced by others, assuming that if they overcame obstacles, so should everyone else—ignoring systemic inequalities and privilege.
Selective association: They often isolate themselves from those outside their perceived “in-group,” excluding others from social, professional, or intellectual circles, which reinforces division and exclusion.
Devaluation of perspectives: Alternative viewpoints are dismissed as uninformed or unworthy, hindering collaboration and innovation. This is especially harmful in public discourse, where media and political elites may claim to represent “truth” while mocking or ridiculing ordinary people.
Ethical elitism: Leaders may believe they are above rules, using their status to justify unethical behavior—such as breaking laws or exploiting others—while ordinary people face harsher consequences for similar actions”
Dont be an elitist.
And don’t be cruelThere’s plenty of “goyish” secular “Jewish”
Again superiority complex at its finest.
Morality and common sense, the concepts that I was literally talking about are not religious concepts they are human concepts. If you need to shut down, carpamentlize and claim that morality is anti “Jewish” and “goyish” your in the wrong religion.*shutting people down
Yaakov yosef. I don’t know who asked you to be the police men. I wasn’t talking anything “anti Jewish” you just don’t like difference of oppion. Which is very rude to shut people down like that everything I said was based on common sense and morality and hard earned real life wisdom. If that’s anti -jewish and you need to shut that down cuz it doesn’t conform to your control _lifestyle_, that’s just wrong. Stop shitting people down even when they speak and have regular conversations we are speaking about morality and human concepts. I didn’t know there’s a rulebook againts all that. Stop being rude
Just to enlighten you further: “People who expect uniform belief and reject critical thinking often exhibit traits of authoritarianism, ideological rigidity, or groupthink. They may view dissent not as a healthy part of discourse but as a personal betrayal or threat to group cohesion. This mindset is commonly seen in closed communities, cult-like environments, or highly polarized social circles where conformity is enforced through social pressure, exclusion, or shaming.
Such individuals often project their own insecurities onto others, interpreting critical thinking as opposition rather than inquiry. As noted in psychological research, this behavior can stem from a defense mechanism known as projection, where people attribute their own flaws or doubts to others. In these cases, criticism is not seen as constructive but as a challenge to the group’s perceived truth or authority.
When someone says “you’re not one of us” for using critical thinking, it signals that the group values uncritical loyalty over independent thought. This creates a false dichotomy: either you fully accept the group’s beliefs without question, or you are cast out. As one Reddit user noted, such people often see themselves as “teachers” with absolute authority, dismissing alternative views as stupidity or moral failure”
Stop censuring people. Thanks
Also, I want to say everything I said are _human_ concepts concepts that transcend ideology. If your not allowed to critically think and only think the narrative you were told your whole life how do you know what real right and wrong is? You don’t
Also I want you to understand when you say that first off your saying Jewish people can’t think for themsleves and have their own opinions that come from their own experiences. Everyone has to think one way. Interesting so we don’t have individual brains, individual lives, individual understanding. So criticL thinking is not allowed. Person viewpoints not allowed. What a straight jacket to live in. Thanks for othering everyone that’s not you and “your” way that mentality is very, carpamentalizing and strict I wonder how you breathe properly if you can only breathe when it fits your box 100 percent do you close your eyes and shut everyone down when they disagree with you. I thought judism is the best religion. The kindest religion the religion you can ask the most “questions” oh oops you can’t think anything other then the status qoa otherwise your not part of the “in” group. See what your doing. Othering people. Not just that your trying to control the narrative. Sounds like another version of “liberalism” just another color with different belief systems. Are you part of a cult or you are but don’t even realize it.
Yaakov yosef you keep proving my point with your superior attitude.
People don’t have to fit your box in order to say something. It’s called critical thinking. Stop controlling the narrative cuz you can’t handle anyone thinking for themslevesYaakove yosef again your so rude. Us versus them. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. You clearly like being a sheep.
Maybe we should work on our bain Adam lechavairo and things will subside? Punishment only comes when weve been cruel to all the wrong people. Look inside. Do you fallow morality truly? Have you ever harmed anyone in a bad situation even if you thought you were right. I can think of countless situations and not just situations that make me feel guilty but situations where I thought I was 100 percent right but then it dawned on me that perhaps I was very wrong. Maybe we need to look inward. Not run away
Correlation to Torah or common sense. I don’t confine myself to an ideology but to realistic thinking.
I don’t constrict myself and force myself into a box that someone else believes but what do _i_ believe. The code is already written into our hearts.The point of life is to be true to self. Honor God. Be righous and enjoy the life and fruits that God gives you. We are only here for a short period of time. You can either spend it sacrificing yourself and your families for an ideology (the reason we were taken out of the garden) or you can be genuine kind people who operate from the _true_ self that’s already connected directly to the most high
The connection to God comes from authenticity to self and true moral values. God is within youChava also is the first woman to use her manipulation and voice to manipulate her husband which all woman do. The power of a woman’s voice is intrinsically able to manipulate man. She did the first thing all woman do naturally. Sway her husband towards her own ends.
All woman are capable of that but they are also capable of humbling themselves and fallowing the man. Which is gods guidanceI’m not sure where you thought I don’t believe in right and wrong. And even if I didn’t believe in right and wrong my beliefs don’t change reality. The fabric of reality is morality
You can not break the moral code without consequences
And that doesn’t matter what you think it matters what is.
When chava ate from the tree of knowledge she got information that gave her the illusion of power. But no one is above morality, they only think they are. It’s called delusionYankel berel please. We all think we are better then everyone. Jew/ goy
Whatever this conversation is about in the first place, carpamentalizing people. It all stems from the same place. We have the truth they don’t…we are better. They aren’t. How about instead of this elitist mentality we realize we are all the same, same humans, same needs. We breathe the same air. We may not agree on ideology. But ideology is the tree of knowledge. And knowledge of our grandiosity takes us out of heaven. Heaven is a _mindset_
A mindset of understanding of our sameness of others helps us have empathy of others and brings humanity together.
Knowledge of our superiorty makes us other people and leads to elitist mentality. We need to find our humanness and our sameness cuz we are all ultimately exactly the sameThe rules in the book isn’t for us to separate above others
Everything written in the book is about community humanity kindness and how to treat others properly.
It’s called morality. So when we get lost in the US versus them we lose the foundation of our humanity.
First comes humanity
Then ideologyCardinal sins aren’t about heaven or hell. Cardinal sins break the fabric of reality. Breaks the person themsleves. Each sin impacts reality and the self in extreme forms. Same way if you treat a poor person horribly, karma collectively finds you and you anger G-d. The reason these laws are enshrined into a book so that you realize God is _living_ and he sees who you bully, who you hurt, who you help, who you do wrong and you are held accountable in real time for your actions. So that you won’t take advantage of people, so that you know, that you aren’t free to do whatever you please and even tho it seems so the moral consequences of your behaviour has real time consequences..
And yes there is consequences to cheating. It’s a terrible morally corrupt thing to do not just because a person goes outside their marriages but it _physically_ corrupts a woman on a physical level and harms the entire society cuz she becomes an actual curse among her people and it also impacts her children. Yes there are real consequences to all corrupt action. Everything written in the book is written about the consequences of reality. Everything in there is exactly what happens to a person that makes mistakes and what to do about it. It wasnt a joke when it said do not steal. Do not murder. All these break down a person in terrible ways and also affects society. None of what is written. Is a joke. It is the moral blueprint of reality
V32itas
Your delusional no offense
Sins is universal concept
Moses didnt write down a bunch made up laws. He wrote a book about morality that’s enshrined into the fabric of _realitu_ you can not break cardinal sins without extreme consequences to self or others.
The laws are first off common sense
But second off written down forever so people don’t forget. And a people was separated from the rest of mankind as beacon of morality so no matter how far humanity falls away from _reality_ there will always be a people or a sector of humanity to guide people back to truth.
Yes sin is real but how bout we call it consequence. It’s not a “Christian” concept it’s a human concept. Don’t lose your humanity and common sense getting lost in the US versus them mentality. There’s no us versus them. We are just here to be a beacon of hope for humanity so they never fully go dark in the false ideologies of falsehoods.Common saychel. Wow you must have so much time on your hands counting how many times I post. You remind me of the yenta neighbors sticking thier nose in everyone else life cuz they don’t have their own. Cute
There are side effects to taking vitmens….your freaking out cuz your a fear mongerer and your afraid of anything different. I never said take any vitmens. I said let’s find the root cause of the issue and give the right vitmens at the right dose. But your drama that vintens have side affects. Wow where did you get that from
Commonsaychel
“Trolling”The little I know. You sound like your trying to convince yourself you know what your saying but somewhere your just a sheep fallowing authority. Remember, just because science says it doesn’t make it true. Science can be manipulated and judging from my many years experience in the filed dealing with real people who have 360 turnaround by finding the root cause, what your being spoon fed is just one side of a coin that doesn’t see the entire picture. If you don’t want to believe that vitmen deficiencies cause mental health issues that’s ok but everything I’ve ever understood can be scientifically proven too just takes thinking outside the box.
Shalom simcha a wise person can see people’s perspectives yes but a person defending the truth should stand up for what’s right. We are having a regular conversation perhaps not sugar coated the way you would like but it’s the truth nonetheless
Shalom simcha. This forum isn’t about anything you decide it’s about. And I speak for everyone suffering at the hands of woman
Facts don’t care about your feelings and I’m not here to sugar coat it. I’m talking about multitudes of people suffering in silence and sometimes a strong arm to speak the truth is necessary. Yes I understand it’s hard to hear but defending those that can’t defend themselves doesn’t require me to be “nice” and bend to “how” a person should talk.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Authority isn’t the only people who are allowed to speak. And yes we are debating strongly different opinions cuz one opinion has been strongest of all feminists. I’m not bending to your will. Take what I say or leave it but if you want to put an opinion out there you should be strong enough to take the heat. We aren’t snowflakes. Real life requires tanacity and the ability to defend. Not walls of rubber that cushion those that fall. Like people say this generation is a generation of snowflakes. If you were speaking among woman you would be treated with kindness but you are pushing an agenda that has harmed so many thousands of not millions of people silently hurting behind closed doors. No I won’t be kind when I stand up for what’s right. SorryBlah blah all I hear is jew how were so much more better then others. No we are not we are exactly the same and if we don’t stop carpermentalizing ourselves and putting ourselves on pedastals with all our fake slogans we will start acting with aragence and doing things that are very wrong. This mindset is very wrong. All human beings are the same and deserve the same respect and kindness stop placing yourselves as if your better and more human then others you are not
Legen-dary
There you go degrading men. It’s a ciggerete and you clearly have impossible standards. He’s supposed to be a “mind reader” duh. Anyways adorable, if you met the perfect guy and he fits everything you ever wanted would you say no if he smokes? Don’t throw the baby out with the bath waterYaakov yosef. We are in galus by our own doing
Yankel berel how bout we ask a much more profound question
A question that should encompass all of reality, not just some arbitrary rules that don’t fallow common sense
“What is the moral thing to do in any given situation”
ThanksV32itas
Don’t forget the 10 cardinal sins
Do not steal
Do not murder
Stop adding things that were not there
These are the ten morals of _reality_ stop giving yourself a licence to do things that God said you should not doV32itas
I hear you but besides for whatever happened before chava came around. Woman should shut up and humble themselves. They already nag with their superior intelligence and their quick to complain attitude. Without men they’d be without. The modern era hasn’t helped woman it has “empowered” them and an empowered woman doesn’t know how to handle power without degrading people. A masculine woman becomes cruel. Only men know how to wield power properly and with respect cuz they _are_ the better gender. It is better for a woman to humble herself and shut her mouth then to speak and act with arrangance cuz then she will act like the chava and harm everyone around her with her poisoned apple. Prob chava pressured her husband to take that appleAlways ask questions:
There was no teenagers before the modern era?I heard that some basic medications like advil or the like cuases hallucinations
I think we need to find the root cause for mental health issues
Including vitamin deficiencies
Lifestyle and other. I heard that antibiotics can cause mental health issues so having a bad gut can make have social issues.
(Ye I’ve got science to back me up)God true name is the same as breathing every time you breath your saying gods name.
This is because judism cannot live outside a bubble. It doesn’t work in real life situations. So put a religious person in an ambitious life circumstance and he has to shed all the extra laws and only keep the basics in order to servive.
“cheesed” cuz your so “good” and disconnected from reality. This guy is talking about human nature and resentment.
Don’t tell me your made of stone that you don’t have human nature and don’t have feelings. My goodness. Let’s give a more extreme example so you’ll admit your not a robot: if someone was very cruel to you and then you were forced to give them a compliment. Would you? No if you were a normal healthy person you wouldn’t.It’s not about how good you keep the pathetic rules you were raised with but if you still maintain the heart of your humanity despite others shortcomings
Again facing reality is very vague. Stop making people feel guilty. It’s all about being perfect and living in a straight jacket.
How bout we get to the root of morality
Treat others as you treat _yourself_
Yes you live in a massive house and comfortable life extend some kindness to others less fortunate
Smile once in a while especially in the store instead of staring and acting like everyone is beneath yo and your “better” cuz you keep all these narcissistic punitive controlling rules and others just can’t measure up so their “beneath” you
If you persecute the poor, the orphans or the fatherless, it’s an affront to God. Have you ever humiliated anyone, by ignoring them or treating them like trash because you thought you were bette then them.
Happens all the time
Did you kick someone out of your apartment just cuz it was yours but it was a family in a bad situation but you stuck your nose up at the sky and gave them three days to leave
I mean why would God himself be happy with us if morality and kindness genuine love is beneath us. This is not about keeping the rules but getting back to the heart of your humanity. Humanity that is lost to the wicked and beneath the elitist snobbery of our wicked societyShows deeply why when God says do not add to my word. He means it. Cuz human nature doesn’t work well in such a constricting controlling society. You can see cuz the lace wigs is the cracks in the system
Even if it’s maras eyin the fact that you cover hair with hair is an oxymoron. The entire thing doesn’t make sense in the first place then your going to try to make it more sense in another area. I get that it’s an issue that people are wearing lace sheitals but it comes down to the fundamental human nature that rules that don’t make sense people will fight against to assert their own autonomy. This is people’s way of subverting rules they don’t want to keep but are forced to because this is how they were raised but they hate the box they need to fit in so society normalized breaking it so everyone secretly subverts the rule because it’s too constricting. Shows how the rules themselves were a geder around a geder, mistaking and misusing it’s authority to push more rules on people they by nature dislike. When we get to the root of the issue, controlling people too much only then will we be able to see the truth behind it
“goyim”
“Goyish”
“Narishkiet”
So much extrmism in such a short sentence.
Chill out it’s just a meme or a joke. It’s ok to be lightheaded that’s what makes life worth living
My goodness you think you earn more points in “heaven” by being such a stuck in the mudWe need to. We should. Dreams in the sand.
We can’t. It is what it is and there’s nothing we can do about just argue. Relax it’s not in your handsSome woman smoke but prob only the ones who are out enough of the community not to be scorned by everyone the people who are truly free to choose what makes them happy despite the crushing social rules of this impossible society
First of all your “achdus” drama is very vague.
No offense but you sound like all those speakers trying to engender guilt on people who are innocent.
There are a few things we can change
That are grounded in reality
The way we treat people that are different then us “treat the stranger in your land” you should read those passages and let it sink
That means stop with the staring disorder of everyone who is not like you. Stop whisper campaigns and treating people as less then just cuz they think and dress differently then you
Smile more. Be real genuine and kind not just a rule keeper or a conformist.
It’s bad for the soul and your own humanity to have an elitist “I’m better then you cuz I keep the rules and you don’t” mentality
We need to stop being so rouph with shidduchim. Treat our singles better. Force them to conform to our impossible standards less be more forgiving when it comes to “checking” someone raised with proper values does not deserve to be treated like a criminal. Where is your faith and your decency. Right it’s a we, me, all about my way or the highway society
People don’t have to bend over backwards or be perfect to get married. Marriage is based on mutual respect and compatibility not perfection and not a history of perfection your dealing with real humans with feelings. Not objects for sale. Thanks but no thanks.
The schools oh the schools. Stop rejecting people based of how their parents dress. Ok?
What is wrong with us. We have no humanity left.
Also let go of your elitist materialistic mentality humble yourself your money and prestige doesn’t make you better then anyone
You are dust and you go back to dust. You own things only temporarily in this world. Maybe tragedy is a shaking of the foundation of our aragence so we realize it’s not us who give us stability it is God and we need to humble ourselves enough to respect and be considerate of every human being especially the ones who can’t live up to our impossible cruel and wicked standardsYour personal vandetta doesn’t change the fact that he’s good for the country. He may do or have done bad things that’s ok. He’s doing a very good job.
Or it’s treating others kindly despite their differences. Not scorning people just cuz they choose to be more like themselves and less like your beliefs
Maybe it means being kind to others just because they can’t afford the same house as you and letting go of elitist mentalities when it comes to differences.
That’s maybe what you mean
Oh also treating people fairly when dating. Not being extreme in your “checking” having more faith
Also the schools maybe not penalizing parents because their different and punishing their kids by not getting them into school.
The list is very long
Shall we beginHow bout we treat each person with respect despite his status.
When it says “treat others as you treat yourself” it didn’t say only your own kind
When it says treat a stranger (anyone different then you)
With decency it didn’t mean your own kind
When it said “do not steal” it didn’t say only from your own kind
Please stop being elitist. Erase difference from your mind and realize every person is exactly the same
We all die the same and breathe the same air.What is unreasonable is to ask him to change himself in order to get married. He’s not for sale. Actually he needs to be accepted as he is in order to have a happy life. It’s better to go in being genuine then to sell a lie. Sorry
Also if you want a teenager to listen to you and have good values you need to engender within them proper morals, right and wrong, not just conformity.