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avira, according to your answer, why cant moshiach be one of the people which will have techiyas hamasim? also why dosent the rambam mention it at all there? basicly seems like you never learned the sugya, anything you guys call “hashkafa” you just make up bologna, dont bother learning agada, medrash, etc.
ya again because you didn’t understand what i was trying to bring out, you call the whole chabad kofrim?!
“moshiach coming from the dead is a chidush” why? answer simply: you said there are 2 mekoros that mention it, how many say it cant be? what about techiyas hamasim? according to you its not even a chidush in maseh braishis!edited
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there is chiyuvim, midas chasidus, mesiras nefesh, hidurim, chumros etc.
i only posted the hayom yom cuz it was from today.avaira: “Plus the fact that in 2,000 years of seforim, the messianics can only find 2 mentions of even the concept of moshiach from the maysim, shows how beyond the pale the idea is.”
how many times can you find in seforim that moshiach needs to be alive before moshiach comes? and that someone who says moshiach can come from the dead is an apikores?
the rambam? how can the rambam say
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what about techiyas hamasim? its not a chidush in masai birashis?
so in chabad we learn about moshiach in depth and it comes out that in hilchos milachim basiclly the rambam is explaining the geder of moshiach al pi halacha, in a matzav of lo zachu, but in a motzav of zachu, it can be different.
if you dont like this answer, so you have another one? show how much you know about this sugya!
dont just take lines of a sugya you never spent time learning!
i only said “just learn chassidus” about people having attacks on chassidus, i wouldn’t attack a line in a medicine book lihavdil, cuz i never learned medicine and have no clue the terms and how it works. . anyone with a brain understands what i mean. stupid argument.
im very proud the less i know about other gedolim, i have one rebbe that’s enough, i try to follow his teachings, what i do realize on this forum is that alot of litvaks dont have a clear derech – they take one thing from this gadol, another thing from another gadol etc. i.e. r’ shach was against the way most litvaks spent weeks on a blatt gemara (?????? ???????) reb moshe was also. many more examples.todays hayom yom:
??”? [?????? ???] ?????? ???? ???? ??? ????”? [????? ??????? ?????? ?????] ??? ?? ???? ????, ????? ?? ?? ???????? ?????? ????. ?? ????? ????? ??? ???? ??????? ????, ?????? ??? ?????? ???? ????? ????? ?? ????.
a simple example: someone could go to extreme and have a 2 room apt, like they did yrs ago, and save maybe 35k a year.
another point: its interesting to me, when i was growing up 20 yrs ago, the conmen practice was for the husband to work, and the wife to stay home, and people were fine with one salary, what exactly happened today? i did notice that today people indulge much more in physical things, big houses, vacations at least compared to where i grew up@avira. thats exactly my point, those were the original complaints. (i cant argue about history, you can do research) today these ideas are laughable that even you think they could never have happened.
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yserbius: 1) whatever stupid argument, but you can just say the rebbes maamarim and sichos are explanations on gemera, medrash, zohar.
2) ok, i dont understand the issue, but that’s defiantly how i treat the rebbes words. im thankful to hashem to (try to) be his chasid. in fact in the past yrs someone put out kuntrasim titled ?????? ??????, and they are incredible to see, he writes down the maamer exactly from the recording, and shows how every word even letter has a makor, even when the rebbe corrected himself there were 2 nuschaos etc, really fascinating. you can search on google to see it.so now i remember “The Rosh Yeshiva of The Hildesheimer Seminar”, i heard about it recently after reading the book “turning judaism outward” he mentions the story that the rebbe needed to get a rabbinical degree from there to get into berlin, so the rebbe told him he can test him on any sefer in his library, r hildesheimer gave the rebbe a sefer he himself wrote recently to study, and the rebbe came back a few days later to get tested.
i focus more on the rebbe’s maamarim and sichos then on the story’s. in fact it says in the above book, that the rebbe only mentioned once publicly by a farbrengen anything about the university. i have nothing against rav hirsh, chas vishalom. my derech is chassidus chabad, (b”h i enjoy this derech, i dont think there is anything else i need,) and there are hundreds of sifrai chassidus chabad to keep me busy for many yrs to come.
“If the shoe fits….” thats my point that someone decided that moshiach cant come from the dead even though its a clear gemara, abarbenel, sdai chemed etc. or other things and storys about what some chabad chassidim do that are just bologna, once you beleive the bologna, that justifies all the lashon hara etc.i have no clue who tjs, r hirsh, r hildesheimer, r weinberg are, so i have no comment, litvaks should do the same, if you dont know anything about mosiach, chassidus. rebbe, dont argue, criticize. definatlly you could learn, you can learn gemarah perek hachelek, then bring youre arguments with Jewish mekoros, not christian
btw for the peaple complaining chabad learns too much chassidus and sichos and not gemara
1) litvaks do the smae thing, they focus on r chaim, reb baruch ber, just learn the gemarah and rishonim!
2) so you have an issue that be look at our rebbe with too much respect, 1) its a clear mishnah ???? ??? ????? ????, ?? ?????? ??? ??? ?????? ???? ?????. many more, 2) one of the big issues the original misnagdim had with chassidus, was that the baal shem tov said that even tzadikim need to do teshuvah, they shouldnt be happy with their level of serving hashem, and that he was mikarev simple yidden, he sent his students – tzadikim to learn about ???? and other middos tovos from simple jews. just saying, cuz now you say we give too much kavod to a real talmid chacham. whatever its all excuses. learn ????? ????.??? ???? ????? ????? ????? ??? ????? ?????? ????? ??? ???? ??? ??????? ????? ????? ????? ?? ????? ???? ?????? ??? ???? ??? ????? ????? ????? ??? ?? ????? ????? ??? ?? ????? ???? ???? ??? ????? ??? ?? ????? ????? ??? ???? ????? ?????????? ?? ????? ?? ????? ?? ????? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ???????? ??? ????? ??? ?????
just pointing out, whats ??? ????so some people have an issue:
sinas chinam, lashon hara, motzi shem ra etc.
so whats their solution? first be motzi shem ra that they are apikorsim, then that justifies being further motzi shem ra, lashon hara ..
that works maybe to jusify yourself to your freind but to g-d?
you should check what the baal shem tov says on ?????? ?? ???? ????? ???? ?????,
?? ????? ??? ????-??-???: ?? ???? ?? ??? ??? ?????? ?? ?????, ?????? ?? ????? ?? ??????? ????? ????, ??? ?? ???? ????? ????? ???? ???? ?? ?????, ?????? ???? ?? ??? ?????, ??? ???? ???? ?? ?????, ??????, ?? ????? ?? ???? ?? ?????? ?? ????, ????? ????? ????? ???? ???? ??, ?? ????? ????, ??????? ???? ?? ????? ??, ???? ???? ????, ???? ???? ???as i wrote: litvaks should not be explaining to chabad what chassidus is, chabad learns chassidus for 3 hours a day part of seder yeshiva. that is thousends and thousends of hours over the yrs.
no litvak should take one line of tanya or another sefer chassidus and tell chabad they are wrong.
they can if they want, say that they beleive the whole chassidus movement is wrong, good for them.
i couldn’t care less. (just anyone who learned some chassidus – enough to understand what they are learning – sees that they start having much more chayus in yiddishkiet, it reaveals deeper levels of their neshama)reb aharon solovaichik – who wrote the letter (you can search it on google to see a copy) passed away in 2001
1) that’s exactly my point, for us in chabad we believe in our rabbaim, they are the ???????? ???? of the generation, neshama of atzilus or ????? ??????? – this idea is explained in ??? ??????, bikitzur in perek 2 tanya, maamer ???? ???? ????. look also in ???”? ??? ? ???? ?????. (some sources to start).
apparently litvaks are against this whole idea of a rebbe, so why are you even criticizing us 1) you think you are the police men of the world? 2) some of you try to prove from tanya that we are wrong, thanks, go fly a kite, if you’re good at learning gemara, do that, don’t explain to us what it says in our chassidus, and what our rabbaim mean,
(disclaimer: you should learn chassidus with an open mind, because it will reveal deeper levels of your neshama eventually)i havo issue saying that i misinterpreted the kuntres acharon,
the problem is that you need to read past the first line, (if you can’t understand past there, then either 1) learn more chassidus till you understand, or 2) dont say opinions on something you dont know
in chassidus this is a big sugya whats higher and whats the kavana, etzem, giluyim etc. mentions it in tanya many times, learn hemshech 5666 – around 1000 (yes one thousend) pages and come back.
btw a quote from the kuntres acharon:
??? ?????? ??????? ??????????, ??? ?? ?? ???? ??? ?????, ?????? – ???? ?? ?????, ??? ?????: ?????? ???? ????, ??? ?? ???? ???? ????, ?????? ???? ???? ???, ???? ?????, ????? ??????? ??? ?????? ??????? ??yes, learning chassidus and davening is extremely important, this is the way to come to love and fear hashem, achdus hashem according to shitas habaal shem tov.
the rambam starts off mishnah torah with ???? ??????? ????? ?????? ????……
and yes the rebbe’s teachings are for us just as important as ??”?. im sorry you dont recognize the greatness of the rebbe and all the chabad rabaim (there were also other non chabad great tzadikim) who saw g-dliness,
litvaks dont understand what chassidus is, one point:
the chabad rabaim said the chassidus to explain g-dliness to us low people who dont see g-dliness, they themselves saw these things like the arizal, the baal shem tov.
just learn chassidus (not like a chassidishe sefer – whatever that means- chassidus you need to learn till you have a burning love for hashem, and you start seeing the g-dliness in everything in the world) and youll see this is true.???? ???”? ??? ???? “??????? ??????” ????”? ???? ?????, ??? ??? ?? ?????? ?? ????? ??”? ????? ??? ??? ?????, ?????? ??”? ?? ?????? ????. ????? ???? ???? ???? ????? ???”?, ????? ???? ???? ??? ??? ?????? ???? “??????? ??????” ?????? ?????? ????. ???? ??? ?? ?? ??? ????????’?? (???? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????? ??), ???? ???? ????, “????? ???”, ??’ ???? ???”? ??? ???????? ???????? ?????? ????? ??? ????? ????? ????? ?????? ???? ????, ?? ?????? ????? ??? ??? ????? ?????? ?? ?????? ?????? ????? ?????? ???????, ??? ?? ????? ????? ?????? ???? ????:
“???? ???? ?????? ????? ????? ????? ?????? ??????????? ??????? ???????.
???? ?’ ???? ????? ?? ???? ??? ??? ??????? ?? ???? ??? ???? ????? ?????. ??? ????? ????? ?????, ?? ?? ????? – ?????? ?????? ???????????? – ???????, ????? ????? ?????? ?????.
?????? ?????? ?? ???? ????? ?????????? (???? ????? ??????? ????? ??????) – ????? ??????? ????? ?? ????????? ????? ?? ???? ????? ?? ?????? ???? ????? – ????? ????? ???? ????? ?????, ???? ???? ????? ????????, ????, ???????, ???? ?????”?, ??? ??? ???? ??????, ?? ???? ????? ?????? ???? ??? ???? ???????????. ?? ?????? ???? ?????? ??????? ????? ????????? ??? ????? ???????? ?????? ??, ?????? ?????? ?? ????? ??????????, ?????? ??????? ????? ????? ?????? ?? ??? ??????? ??????????, ?????????, ???????? ?? ?????? ???????, – ?? ?????? ??? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ????? ????? ???? ??? ????? ?????? ???? ??????? ????. ?? ????? ?????? ????? ?? ?? ???????, ?????? ???? ??????? ?? ???? ?????, ??????? ????? ?????? ?? ?? ?????. ??? ????, ????? ????? ????? ?? ?? ?????? ?? ????? ??? ???? ?? ??????????, ?? ?? ????? ???????? ???? ???? ????? ?????”.
i dont know what your point is, but its like someone else’s statement that the idea of we want moshiach now is wrong (or worse).
its a shame that jews always find arguments to pick, and to come out against others.
time for those rca members to retract (if they didn’t yet), and to get their knowledge straight,additional sources about davening
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just a few, anyway the point was about the importance of davening thats why chassidim spend hours on preparation and the actual davening
the misnagdim were against this from the time of the baal shem tov,
and in those times there were many debates, read the debate in minsks etc,
and to yserbius – im not in denial its just we in chebad dont need to answer our minhagim taught to us by ????? ?????, we couldnt care less what others have to say. (its only we try to spread the light of chassidus cuz we love every jew) – although i cant understand why anyone would try to hide the rebbes amazing teaching which besides from the intellectual aspect of it, they also give one a chayos in yiddishkiet like nothing else – ???? ???? ?? ??? ???’ ??????? ???? ??? ???? ?? ??? ?????????? ??? ???. (taste chassidus and you’ll see how good hashem and yiddishkiet is)as i wrote i made a mistake and mixed together 2 sources. but check the 2nd source i mentioned. ???? ?
?? ??, ?????? ????, ???? ?? ????? ???? ?????? ??????? ????? ??? (??? ???? ?? ?? ?? ?? ???? ?? ??????), ??? ???? ?? ???? ????? ?? ????? ???? ?????? ????? ??? ????? ?????, ??? ????? ????????????????????: ???? ????? ?????? ??? ??????. ??? ???? ???????????????????? ?????? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ??????, ??? ??????, ?????? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ????, ??? ?? ??? ????? ?????? ????? ????????. ?? ???? ?? ?????? ?????, ????? ????? ???? ?? ????? ????? ???????, ???? ????? ????, ??? ??? ????? ?? ???? ?????? ????? ?????? ???? [???? ???: ?????] ?? ?? ?????? ???? ?? ??, ???? ???? ?????, ????? ????????, ?????? ???? ?????? – ??? ????? ????? ?????? ????? ???? ??? ???? ???? ??? ?????? ????
here he is speaking about tzedaka i know, thats why i mentioned the other source, whatever, ?? ???? ?????? ????? ???? ??.
whats the point of learning torah btw? whats the point of mitzvos? what is torah and mitzvos?
im not trying to argue (im not interested to prove my point to someone who doesn’t know much chassidus) but im writing so maybe one drop of chassidus will enter someone who reads, and awaken his neshama.
tanya is one sefer, its called torah shebiksav of chassidus, learning only tanya is like learning chumash and being like a tziduki who tighs a sign on his hand for tefillin. learn all the seforim of the baal hatanya if you want. they are called ????? ????? ???? in case you dont know.sorry mistake ??? not ???.
just because you saw one person have a meal doesn’t mean that thats what chabad does, i saw a litvak come to shul late, skip half of davening cuz shulchan aruch says to skip if you come late, but you shouldnt be coming late, i also saw a jew speaking lashon hara – that means its accepted?
so the way the baal shem tov thought is that when you see a nother yid doing something wrong, we look at ourselves and say that im not devoting myself enough to davening, not him (the litvak i saw).
anyway learn the first 4 volumes of likutai sichos, and if you still have any questions on chabad, then come back, some people learn a bit on tanya and think they understand it, then claim all their claims, you dont understand anything.about tefilah being the ikur avodah look in kuntres acharon ?? ???.
talmud torah was the ikur avoda in the times of gemarah – ?? ???. now is tzedakah
i did make a mistake and mix them together.
anyway, learn the whole tanya beiyun (today there are plenty of biurim printed)the reason chabad eats before davening is simple. the shulchan aruch harav paskens that if one needs to eat to be able to have more kavana by davening, its permited. the custom in chabad is to learn 1-2 hours (at least) of chassidus before davening – to prapare for davening – learning about gadlus ha-kel, then to daven which is a major focus – (also mikvah, hisbonenus, long davening (a good few hours) (the alter rebbe says in tanya that todays days davening is the ikur avoda (not torah – like in the time of gemara))
so most people would be very hungry if they did not eatjust pointing out that i just checked that website identifying chabad, 1) they take one sicha out of context, as i already discussed ???? in a continuation to before, about asking for a tikun not praying,
2) these guys are against the alter rebbe too, so PSA, cuz some claim they are only against todays chabad, so good for them all all misnagdim who are against most of jews who are chassidish, talmidim of the baal shem tov, etc, so dont learn shulchan aruch harav, keep the cherem of the gra etc, zai gezunt un shtark.its funny how litvaks think they are the policemen of the world!
chabad shlucha youre amazing, even though your’e devoted to you’re community, you still want to educate people around the world with the light of torah and chassidus! no need to answer complaints.
i think a most encredible thing that will happen when moshiach comes, is that then will be the ??????? between us and hashem, which simply means that we will feel close to hashem the way a wife feels to her husband (at the best times). a mitzvah will be our pressure to do for hashem, learning torah will be like my husband – hashem – sharing with me his deepest ideas, etc. etc.. this is dirah bitachtonim. (this is my own hergesh after learning chassidus for tens of thousends of hours over the past many yrs. vda”l)like i wrote before, read the words its talking about asking for a tikun.
anyways i have a great idea: all the litvaks who didn’t learn chassidus (a good amount of the seforim 10+ (i should really say 100+)) they should in stead of arguing about chassidus, which they know nothing about, there is plenty of arguments you can have with other litvaks, like brisk with rav shach, about voting, the get, or yeshiva university and ????? ????? ?’ ???? ??? ??????????? with brisk of yerushalayim, etc, etc,learn ??”? ??? ??? ???? ??? ????? ??,
my point is not to say its asur to use an electric shaver
(even though, many opinions held that way including the chzaon ish, rav shach, reb chayim kanievski in the name of his father who all held that an electric shaver is ???? ??? ???? ??? ??? ??????? ???? ????? ?????) see here: https://tablet. otzar.org/?lang=en#/b/642323/p/20/t/1686319030321/fs/0/start/0/end/0/c/1686319054687
my point is that its definitely a chumra, hiddur, etc. you’ll get schar for it. part of living a torah life, tzurah of a ben torah. according to arizal it brings a lot of bracha,
so its interesting why people who devote their lives with mesiras nefesh to torah, shave their beards.
chassidim were moser nefesh not to cut their beards.
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“???? ???? ?? ????, ??? ???????? ?? ???” (???? ?,?). ??? “???? ???? ?? ????”? – ??? ??? ??? ?? ????: ??? ???”?: ?? ??? ???? ????? ???????? ?? ????. ?? ??? ????: ????? ??????? ??? ????? ??? ???? ????, ????? ?????, ?????? ??? ????? ??? ???? ???? ????. ?? ??? ???”?? ?? ???? ?????? ??? ??? ???? ?? ?? ????? ??????, ??? ????? ?? ?????? ????. ?????? ?????: “??? ???????? ?? ???”.- ?????? ??? ?,?NO OUTSIDE LINKS
so back to my point: just send the original that says to daven to the rebbe what proof do you have that such a things exists? all you tell me is that it was in the older print so get me it! just bologna
the basic idea of chassidus is ahdus hashem, this is yechida shebinefesh, this is a very very deep concept, when moshiach comes this will be seen with ones eyes, now who can – thru learning chassidus which explains this concept and contemplating in depth on this idea – come to such a recognition, every person according to his level and amount of time and effort he devotes to it, this is why chassidim learned chassidus for hours before davening and then davened for hours, some chassidim davened on shabbos or even during the week for the entire day to be able to see with the ???? ???? the g-dliness in everything more and more.
the more a person internalizes achdus hashem, it refines his midos
so its very diifremt then musar. no reaon to argue about this, just learn a few sifrai chassidus maybe
????, ??? ??????, ??”? ????”?
if these seforim are too deep for a beginer, there are shiurim on them, or learn the first 4 volumes of likutai sichos which bring these ideas down to simple people who never learned chassidus
so this is why the 9 most likeliest candidates to be moshiach are the baal shem tov, maggid, alter rebbe, mitiler rebbe, tzemach tzedek, rebbe maharash, rebbe rashab, frierdiker rebbe, the rebbe.
now dont bring me any rav this or that who says moshiach cant be from the dead, thats a different discussion, the idea is that this is what moshiach will do – he will teach chassidus!i didnt see those words there.
so the rebbe is explaining about asking about asking ???????
then the rebbe brings the zohar of ????? ??????? ????”? ???? ??
and the rebbe brings other examples of this concept from zohar, tanya and in the haara from yerushalmi.
so youre attack is the the zohar is apikorsos? or the yerushalmi? only bavli is torah?
(i didint have time right now to learn the whole sicha, but i did in the past, i never remembered this claim from this sicha, i guess when you learn ????? you understand different)
i did’nt understand if what you posted was the original print or subsequent?moshiach told the baal shem tov (keser shem tov ???? ?) when he asked him when he’s coming “when you’re learning with be spread and be revealed in the world and your wellsprings will be spread to the outside”
moshiach is someone who has the neshama called ????? ??????, he will teach the level in torah called ?????. which is chassidus – chassidus is a taste of ????? ?? ????.
(??? ?????? ????? ?? ???? ???????)
and i wont even bother with the people who don’t beleive in the baal shem tov, he learned torah straight from achiya hashiloni and moshiach himself, so….mr avirah – ya the original before he took it out? can you send me a copy? link a pdf?* or its just one of those things he heard from your classmate in school? anyway as i explained, learn chassidus before critisising anyone. learn tanya perek 2, perek 10, it says there the same concept besides for the davening part which is made up bologna by snags.
its so funny how the misnagdim dont have any ?”? for what they say, and the lubavitchers (or ones who defend lubavitch) and have black and white ?”?, but still the misnagdim claim only they learn torah and chabad dosent, they just learn tanya and do mivtzoim.
i guess the litvaks after learning a few sugyos of lumdos, can argue with any agadah, medrash, zohar, shulchan aruch harav, (after all the baal hatanya didn’t leatn reb chayim or reb baruch ber, he was from before matan torah – as i heard from a litvak)so for all the great gedolim paskening 1) not washing ??? ?????? – just learn shulchan aruch ??”? ???? ??? which brings shitos you dont need to wash, many posking hold you can be yotze with even fruit. see also ??”? ?”?. (you can see all the ?”? in the shulchan aruch harav printed by kehos.)
2) eating before davening ??? ???? ???? ??? ???? ?”? ???? ? (??”?)
3) sukkah – just look in hilchos sukkah (??”? ??? ???? ???? ???? ?-?)
basically all these attacks are ignorance
and so is the idea of ????? ????? ????? ???? (which i amagine wasnt the worlds of the rebbe, the rebbe spoke in yiddish, this quote was not edited by the rebbe (not in ????? ?????) but the idea is that ?????? ????:
the ??? ????? is ??? ??? ???? ???, torah and mitzvos reveal the neshama, by a tzadik who reavels his neshama completly and has nothing left of his nefesh habihamis, all thats left is his ??? ?????. (this does not mean hes g-d)
this is the most basic concept of chassidus, kabala and judasim. this is the idea of dirah bitachtonim, achdus hasham, moshiach, techiyas hamasim, schar eonesh,
one last point (for now) in chabad they learn chassidus for hours a day, in yeshiva – for 3 hours during seder (7 hours niglah btw) these are very deep concepts and need alot of time to have any understanding (thats why there are hundreds of seforim of sifrai chassidus)
its totally ridicules that someone who never learned any chassidus or learn a drop should come ask kashyos! first learn just one sefer chassidus chabad – and learn it the way you learn gemarah, make sure you understand every word, then start asking questions (you wont have any)tuna is a fish good point. to answer aviras tantrum. so people like him dont even know what the “official” attack on the sicha was, no one had any issue with that part of the sicha, if that would be the attack, he wouldnt able to convince any litvaks besides some amai haaratzim on the internet. im not going to explain the attack on the rebbe, but at least get the attack streight, then learn the sicha, or the other way around.
one interesting observation, about the rebbe, people needed to search and search, and finally they came up if something that 1) most of them dont know where its printed 2) most dont even know the words 3) most never even heard those terms (and have no clu what they mean) are because of that they attack the rebbe.
or they attack chabad about moshiach which most know nothing about, or sukh which is a chidush of the rogetchuver not the rebbe, the rebbe just quotes it (check the sicha)whereas other recital statements quoted by others they are just clear kefira. and apikorses
learn the sefer ????? ??? ???, im pointing out that even though there are matirim, there are many many (robom) that hold it asur,
as apposed to no one hold its an oblogation to sit in kolel at all! you can go to work and learn perek ched shachris and arvis, even just krias shma is mikayem ????? ?? ???? ????? (sh”u hilchos masa umatan, and hilchos talmud torah)the first question is what is torah?
why did hashem give us torah?
why to yidden?
what is the tachlis of torah?
what is ?? ??????
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mr avira de ara. yes, and by the way thats what alot of chassidus is – learning medrashim ?????. just learn 10 maamerim and chances are it many of them are explaining medrashim.
youre gedolim tought you that torah was given ????? ???? ????? or the oppisite.
what about motzi shem ra? lashon hara, shkarim??
you believe in hashem? how can you say such apikorses?
learn some chassidus, and start derhering that there is a g-d, he loves every jew – including you.
and you should love every jew because every jew is g-d’s child.
the rebbe also loves you more than you love yourself, and he loves every jew even the biggest misnagdim who hated him.
so sad to see litvishe hashkofos – if only they tasted chassidus, ???? ???? ?? ??? ?mr avira de ara.
youre gedolim tought you that torah was given ????? ???? ????? or the oppisite.
what about motzi shem ra? lashon hara, shkarim??
you believe in hashem? how can you say such apikorses?
learn some chassidus, and start derhering that there is a g-d, he loves every jew – including you.
and you should love every jew because every jew is g-d’s child.
the rebbe also loves you more than you love yourself, and he loves every jew even the biggest misnagdim who hated him.
so sad to see litvishe hashkofos – if only they tasted chassidus, ???? ???? ?? ??? ?oh the the rambam in hilchos melachim – so the misnadim say “how can you compare the rebbe’s learning to david hamelech?”
answer: so the rambam holds (according to these am haaratzim asking the question, (just to note why dosent the rambam mention tchiyas hamasim? klutz, learn the sugya properly!) moshiach needs to be alive, who today alive is a closer talmid chacham to david hamelech?
question: maybe a hidden tzadik?
answer: so if there is a hidden tzaddik somewhere, whats wrong with saying, that the rebbe knew much more torah than you think he knows and is in fact like david hamelech
basiclly these complaints are totally ridicules – coming up if every stupid reason why the rebbe cant be moshiach, and even if so- bacause of that to call chabad kofrim ch”v? if they are mistaken, good,
every person who makes a mistake is a kofer?!yay, when are you turning 3?
avirah, sources? not “alot of sources” (no one can prove the rebbe wasnt from ???? ????, and even if not, just means that chabad can be mistaken, you cant hate them because of that. (its known (the ???? is in the hakdama of the sefer ???? ???) the baal hatanya was ?? ??? ?? from the ???”? who was ?? ??? ?? from ???? ????. but the ?”? was a son of the daughter of the baal hatanya. and the rebbe is from the ??? ???.so i dont know eaither way)
christianity nonsence? what that moshiach can be from the dead? what about the gemarah ??????? ??,?
?? ???? ??? ???? ????? ?????. ?? ???? ????? ????? ????? ???? ????? ????? ????? ????? ??????? ????? ???? ??? ???????? ???? ????? (?? ??.) ??? ??? ????? ???? ??? ??? ????? ??? ?????? ????? ??????? ???? ????? ????? ???? ??? ???? ???? ??? ?????
just because christians beleive some thing dosent mean judaism hold the oppisite, alot of it (maybe most – i never studied it) comes from judaism, they believe in tanach also
rishonim? sources?
?is the whole idea of moshiach and techias hamasim cancelled ch”v cuz christians believe it?mr avirah, learn the whole sugya – to point out 1) read the worlds you posted again – its referring to rabonim and people who teach torah 2) learn the shach on what you quoted. lean the whole sugya finished.
litvaks hold learning halacha is ??? ???? only ??? ???? is ????avaira, just learn the whole hilchos talmud torah with the noseh kelim, youre goint to point out every line, no need to explain, you seem to claim yourself as a ben torah.
to learn and live ??? ??? is a great thing, its midas chassidus, there are many other things that are midas chassidus
i always wondered why some people are so machmir in some mitzvos, but such a basic easy mitzvah like not shaving, which many (almost all) poskim say is asur even with an electric shaver, they disregared?can someone please explain to me simply whats wrong to beleive that the rebbe is moshiach, or alive?
does it contradict a pusuk, mishnah, gemarah, medrash, zohar?
anyone?
or its just something people dont like? i dont like mustered so someone who likes mustered is a goy? chas vishalomwhat about rav shach and rav aharon? torah says not to believe in more than one g-d!!!!
so if they are g-d ch”v, then you can only believe inn onevery simple: the bnai torah spend years studying torah gemara, all the yeshiva and lomdishe misachtos, so even if they never learned or medrash or the agada of gemara, their intellect becomes automatically molded with daas torah, so whatever they think is emes, even if a gemara seemingly contradicts their daas torah, you have to answer the gemarah, not their holy daas torah, medrash? does avi ezri write a commentary on medrash? no, so why learn it.