I object to your disrespect towards many talmidei chachamim. Mocking their status as rabbonim because they have a psak with which you disagree is a display of tremendous chutzpah and arrogance. I will not continue discussing halacha with you until you retract and apologize.

garymeyers – yes, birchas hamazon is d’oraysa. However, one would fulfill the mitzvah d’orayasa with al hamichya which is a summary of the three brachos of birchas hamazon. In fact, the second and third brachos of bentching were established in the days of Yehoshua and Dovid uShlomo respectively.

Shmendrik – the fact that it is easier to say mezonos and more effortfull, to wash and bentch does not mean that mezonos is a kula and hamotzi is a chumra. Would it be OK for someone to be “machmir” and say hamotzi on a piece of cake? surely, he must say mezonos even though it is easier.

p.s. I respectfully request that this Torah discussion not contain any more needless attacks on our fellow Jews.

It is important to define the term kovaya seudah. The shulchan aruch 168:6 is clear that being kovaya seudah depends on the amount eaten and has nothing to do with the intent of the eater. In other words, it makes no difference if you are eating it as a snack or as a meal, the only thing that matters is how much you eat.

“no skool yay!!!”

Based on your spelling, you could probably do with a bit more school.

Upon further analysis:

Your words do sound a bit self-aggrandizing.

On another note:

the kollel system and denigrate

“But make no mistake, they are providing a service for the all of us.”

I strongly object to your implication that these people are acting on my behalf.

I handed my wife a kesubah in which it says “v’ana eflach v’afarnes yasichi… k’hilchos guvrin yehudain d’falchin um’farnesin es n’sheihon b’kushta”

“And I will work and support you… LIKE THE WAY OF JEWISH MEN THAT THEY WORK AND SUPPORT THEIR WIVES HONESTLY.”

Someone who protests those who are trying to help people go “in the ways of Jewish men” are not providing me with a service.

I would agree with your reason number one. I would just tweak it slightly. I think that the parents who give nice gifts (based on what they can afford) are (in general) people for whom the chinuch of their children in a main focus of their lives. Children who have parents who are so dedicated to them, on average, live up to their parents goals more closely.

P.S. I very specifically wrote the words “on average”. I am very well aware of many cases where good, dedicated parents have children who stray far from their parents ideals. But I believe it to be indisputable that children do better with dedicated parents.

P.P.S. On behalf of myself and many other Rabbeim, I would like to express my appreciation to to all those of you who open your wallets and checkbooks to so generously give the gifts that you can afford (whatever amount they may be). I would like to doubly thank those of you who include a note or card of appreciation that specifically mentions some of the nice attributes of the Rebbe and how your child has gained from him. Children do not often express genuine appreciation for all of the dedication and hard work that the Rabbeim put it. It is easy to feel that your efforts are not noticed and not making a real difference. Reading a card that says “My son is excited to learn parsha because of the excitement with which you tell it over” or the like, can make a Rebbe’s day.

“Indeed we are ?????, ????? but ?????? and ??????. So right after the fighting and nissim, they threw away their weapons and shields and went right back to Torah and Avodah.”

Perhaps that is what should have been done but it is not what took place.

After the Chanuka Story, The Chasmonaim continued fighting and established a kingdom which ruled the land for many, many years of military based rulership.

In fact, the kingdom was brought down by all the fighting, when the Romans were called in to settle a dispute between brothers.

The simple answer to your question is that the story of Chanukah took place after the time of the Anshei Knesses Hagedolah, who sealed the Tanach. Therefore, any books that were written, could not be included in Tanach and did not gain the status as a Sefer Kodesh. So, alothough there is a a Megilas Antiyoches, it does not have the status of our five migilos hakdoshos.

by refraining from fleishigs on thursday night, one enhances the kavod shabbos of having meat on Shabbos.

Um…

Have you been in the NY/NJ area since hurricane Sandy?

Isn’t this like the teacher who says “raise your hand if you’re not here”

“she was arrested for running a meth lab”

Why are you giving out personal information about my ex on this website?

all five megillos are in kesuvim

Shir hashirim

rus

eicha

koheles

esther

yonah is a haftarah which are all from navi and it is not a megilla

yidyid- is the expression “masai yagiu malbushai limalbush avosai”?

The mishna in maseches taanis points out that it does not say by the people of ninvei that “Hashem saw their sackcloth and fasting” but rather that “He saw their actions and teshuva”.

On the list of challenges facing klal yisrael today, the fabric of one’s yarmulka is pretty low down.

In my humble opinion, it seems you have fallen to the temptation of knocking others to make yourself feel superior. (either that or i have fallen to a troll thread)

If I am wrong, and this thread was inspired by a true feeling of defense of Hashem’s Kavod (although I feel that it is completely misguided) I apologize for believing otherwise.

“The Debreciner Rov zichrono tzadik l’vrocha was not a layman. He was one of Klal Yisroel’s great poskim.”

True. He also did not start this thread.

“Yichusdik, that was an eloquent post with lots of kiruv values but the only issue here is whether someone who has unfiltered internet can be shaliach tzibur…”

If I may speak for Yichusdik, I believe that in his (beautiful) post he was making the point that we would all be better served by focusing our energies on bringing more Jews tachas canfei hashechina (under the wings of Hashem’s Divine Presence) as opposed to trying to find new ways to exclude and ostracize those who we feel we can classify as inferior to us spiritually.

“Or you could try pairing it with another apple or even blackberry”

Be careful. that would be an issur of kilayim (Vayikra 19:19).

I would’ve said Snape. ^_^

Isn’t he the incumbent?

“Hermione Granger”

The constitution Article 93 section 38.8 specifically prohibits a mud-blood from being president or vice president.

“You can expect less popa in your life but at better times”

How about less times and better popa? 🙂

now it is

Smile at him. You win and don’t make a commotion.

Disintary: Insulting someone named Terrell

nitpicker –

Once you grant the government the right to ban the foods you consider to be “non-foods”, what will stop them from doing the same to foods that you do consider to be edible.

The point is, that just as you make certain distinctions about what you believe you should and shouldn’t eat, each person should have the freedom to make similar of different choices. If you believe that margarine is not food, then by all means, don’t eat it. But why should I be bound by your opinion?