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Lol aderaba
Are the wrong people still pretending that this club is going to lead to more gayness?
Hows the club doingSmiler
“I personally try to buy from Yidden even when the quality and price are worse, but if they refuse to supply the Chumras that I want, that’s when I stop feeling obligated to patronize them”
I don’t get this
So you’re a meikel stam to make yourself feel good. Isn’t that worse than a meikel who is driven by yetzer harah for money?smiler
You mean 99
Though I’m still not sure the relevance. That wouldn’t allow you to buy the chometz intending to mix it and create bitulNom
Of the ten possible reasons bitul wouldnt apply you gave an incorrect one
chametz shevar al Hapesach is NOT a davar sheyesh lo matirin. IT will never become mutar. In fact if you mixed up (after purchasing so no longer kavua) chometz shevar al hapesch it WOULD be batul (if not davar shebeminyan, chatichha arui lhiskabed etc)
Davar sheyesh lo matirin doesnt apply if the matir is retroactive. We dont say neveila is davar sheyesh lo matirin becasue you could have shechted it.
Pity
I would have like to see the Gra.
Only reference I’m familiar with is Maaseh RavAvira
“The issue the Gaon had was with selling it while it remains in the jews house/store.”
I’m not sure how you know that. As Far as I know the Gra did not write anywhere opposing the sale, including in his comments to Shulchan Aruch (448:3) where sale is mentioned.
Masseh Rav does mention that he avoided buying from Chometz that had been sold, thoughg it does not say why.Do you have a source indicating that he was “very, very against it.”?
(To be clear I’m not saying he wasnt agaisnt it, (though “very very” seems like a stretch) I am saying that just becasue he was agasint it does not mean this is something that people should follow today for all the reasons I shared from Rabbi Reisman in previous post)
Avira
Because this isnt about not relying on the sale
This is not allowing others to rely on it.Rabbi Reisman is very very very* opposed to this “Chumra”
buying from a yid is a mitzva deoraysa.
chamatz shevar al Hapesach is a knas derabanan. It is absurd (his words) to suggest that Chazal would issue a knas agasint this fellow who follows all Gedolim who allow mechira. He goes to his Rav sells his chometz and surprise chazal issue a knas???Aye the Gra?
Ok so if you are very medakdek on following the Gra, maybe it makes sense. but if not to adopt this chumra is “absurd”
As to why the Gra held it. Who knows
1) not all things in Maaseh Rav are reliable.
2) Maybe he thought the mechira wasnt done well in his locale
3) Practicly it wasnt the same people didnt have storehouses with product as much as today.
4) furthermore might be better off buying from yid today. You know he sold his product, it is deffinitly NOT chometz sheavar al Hapesach when buying from goy you don’t know who he bought from over yom Tov could be a Jewish distributor*I use all those verys because I heard it from him many times and he used strong language. Do you have a source that the Gra was “very very against it” Maaseh Rav says he didnt buy
smiler
It is hard to imagine how such a store could exist .
Please do teshuva for throwing out perfectly fine food purchased from ehrliche people who follow halachaFake
I have the same problem with local Pizza store, its open from morning till night every day (not Shabbos)
Kids always want Pizza, creates way too much pressure
how many days a week and to how many hours do you think the store should be limited to?“is it unreasonable to not want multiple ice cream trucks contesting the development per day”
to answer your question, it isn’t unreasonable not to want it. IT is unreasonable to think there is something you should be allowed to do about it as far as controlling/limiting them
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You are wrong
The Ramabam says His Sefer is synopsis of Torah Shebal peh.
It is called “mishne Torah” because it is second to the Torah is Torah Shebichsav which is Tanach
in the original:
לפיכך קראתי שם חיבור זה משנה תורה. לפי שאדם קורא בתורה שבכתב תחלה ואחר כך קורא בזה ויודע ממנו תורה שבעל פה כולה ואינו צריך לקרות ספר אחר ביניהםZetruth
let that be a lesson for life . Eveything is recorded thnk before you speak.
When you record your foolishness it remains there for all to see and laughYW fan
there are many minhagim with sefira. some keep from begginign until LAg baomer some until Lad Ba’aomer some from Rosh chodesh until then end etc.
(as an aside “listening to music” is a later addition to the minhag as well though dancing is brought earlier so your point stands)
Similarly there are many minhagim with Lag Baomer. According to the Mechaber there is no dancing at all not by day nor night. According to the Mishna berura’s understanding of the Remah you are right about Lag baomer night. But not everyone agrees (MB also brings cholkim that haircuts are allowed at night, no reason for haircuts to be different than music)
in short all of sefira is based on minhagim, and there are different minhagim
“You can do avoda zora for darkei shalom?! You have to die rather than do avoda zora!”
who did Avoda Zarah?
thats awful! though maybe start a new thread about that?
“Neville: Every Ben Torah has a little bit Joseph in them.”
Thats true but our avoda is to be kovesh our Joseph and stand up for whats right and emes
LF
could be that could explain why I don’t remeber
thanksLF
“Way back those days (40+) no one had any festivities besides Stolin and maybe some other very few.”I dont remember a fire in the 90’s. They had music and dancing yes. Are you sure they had a fire 40 years ago?
Seems unlikely
Can you provide any primary source ?
There must be some mention of this in the past 100 years“He is counted twice since his two terms were non-consecutive.”
I never understood that:
Counting Presidents can be done by counting people in which case Biden is the 45th person to serve as President
If we count terms. Then Washington was President twice, he won 1788, 1792 Adams was the third president Jefferson the 4th and 5th etc .
Why do terms matter only when non-consecutive. Either count people or termsI thought this thread was going to be about Ozempic
“If they decide the case under the Civil Rights Act…”
right, and that was exactly the question the court was asked: “Whether the court should disapprove the more-than-de-minimis-cost test for refusing religious accommodations under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act ….”
now of course the court is required to specificly address that anc could just ignore that aspect. But it is deffinitly to premature to conclude, as you did, that “A precedent would not be that significant”
“may” not be that significant, yes its possible that it may not. “Would not” No way to determine at thsi time
RE
Nope you got it wrong. You didn’t look carefully and mixed up zeros and O’s (which was my point I’m just surprised the point came across so well )
Question was
40 + 2O – 0 x O = ?
where O = 2Translates to
40 + 2(2) – 0 x 2 = ?
40 + 4 – 0 =44But the truth is its not your fault it is hard to tell zero’s and O’s apart, and (near?) impossible to do so in writing. So the fault is not in you but in the unclear question.
Similarly 2x/3y-1 if x=9 and y=2 ?
Is unclear:
is it 2x/(3y-1) ? ( = 3.6)
is it (2x/3y) -1 ? (= 2)
(2x/3)y-1 (=11)
2(x/3)(y-1) (= 6)
among othersGranted some of these make morse sense than others but more than one could have been meant. when typed out it is impossible to convey in a way that is clear to all what the numerator/dividend is and what the denominator/divisor .
So none of these answers (3.6, 2, 11, 6) are incorrect per se*. The question is unclear much like 40 + 2O – 0 x O = ? (especially when handwritten) is unclear
*Ok some are silly, but definitely more than one especially the first 2 can be equally valid
Well put Yserbius
PEMDAS isn’t optional it is a rule like + means addition
using / for division is ambiguous . It would be like saying solve this equation
40 + 2O – 0 x O = ?
where O = 2while solving it here is doable, imagine it handwritten
Akuperma
It would depend on what how court decides if more narrowly limited to 1st amendment then I agree witjh you
but if they add that it violates the civil rights act of 64, somewhat overuling TWA v Hardison that seems significant“But my statement is fact, each new supreme court ruling further entrenches it,”
absolutely. It is a fact Ive said many times. no argument at all
but the same way courts can entrench it, courts can dislodge it.“As for my practical answer i would have left it on the books.”
thanks for the reply
Kudos on the consistencyKriger
“I live in the town of Beitar, Israel.”
guns are very regulated in Israel. If we enacted their regulation Id be fine with that.“America feast on violence,”
this isnt the answer. Europeans have the same violence Japanese movies have more They simply don’t have the same number of mass shootings as we do. This theory doesnt hold water“(might as well have said “since everyone murders anyway , do you support….””
Yes I agree that would be a fine comparison. though I used a better one .
Would you accept that argument for abortion.
A year ago it was legal. States made laws making it illegal. why isnt this something that worries you? Or is it?you said you are ” more worried about millions of law abiding citizens being persecuted for something that is currently legal”
You mentioned to Yserbius
“First everyone here with their heads in the clouds are ignoring the fact that the second amendment is only becoming more entrenched in law”
The oppsoite is true./ IVe pointed out over and over how the reinterpretation of the second amendment as applying to ordinary citizens is relatively new.
Granted at this point it is more of a historical argument and not practically too significant since the court gets to decide , though a new court can undo Heller and revert to the original interrepations. The Left should approach guns the way the right did abortion.
(Though probably wouldn’t be quite as successful I dont think anti-gun camp is quite as fired up as the anti-abortion camp)mentsch
would you accept that argument in any other realm?
Eg making abortion illegal would just make criminals out of all the people who will continue to get abortions therefore they shouldn’t be banned? as history has shown, will they be more likely to ignore the govt, and all you have accomplished is making millions of citizens into criminals
“Rav miller was saying this since the 70s btw.”
I dont beleive Rav Miller would have said something so dumb
I’m moche for the Kavod of Rav Miller.Dr P
” it seems as if different textbooks teach the order of operations differently.”This hasnt been my experience. And today although people calim there are nobody has ever been able to identify these alleged textbooks (although IVe asked)
I think people (myself included) forget the order of operations (most of us havent done these kind of problems in decades) So we get the question wrong. Then when reminded we feel silly that we got an elemntray school problem wrong.
Instead of saying “” wow cant beleive I forgot the rule” The responses are “There must be other rules” “the rules are made up its up to each person if they should follow them ” etc (these arent verbatim quotes from this thread)“(I can not recall seeing a textbook that gave an order of operation that would yield a number other than 1 but from Google searches it seems like there are.)”
I could not find any such rule for order of operations. (a few posters said “PEMDAS is a convention, not a hard and fast rule.” and “Following the system where multiplication is deemed a higher order operation than division:” These are verbatim quotes. and not based on any thing real
BUT
however I did find some debate over Flaming’s Pitfal #2 with some fellow (who seemed well reaosned) arguing that 8÷2(4) was not the same as 8÷2×4 (which would absolutly be 16) rather that 2(4) was one unit equaling 8 (thus leaving 8÷8 = 1) not two seperate units 2×4 (which would require first dividng the 8 by 2)
For interesting sources see Slate’s “What Is the Answer to That Stupid Math Problem on Facebook?
And why are people so riled up about it?” (3/12/13) where he argues (wrongly in my opinion) “none is incorrect.” the thrust of the article is that histoically there are different ocnventions, and sure in 1919 a different answer may have been correct but that has no bearing on today.Dr P
“but who has the authority to make this convention”
I’m not sure. but the fact that every math textbook says same is a good indication.
” and what happens if someone doesn’t follow it? (I.e. what are the consequences going to be? Can an architect be sued if the builder uses a different convention and the building collapses?)”
I would think for sure. If Architect said using my convention 3 + 2 = 6, or 1 + 2 × 3 = 9 . Of course he could be sued. neither of those are correct.
(When documenting a process, I personally put in parentheses very generously to avoid any ambiguity.)
emes
“1. Following the system where multiplication is deemed a higher order operation than division:… Neither answer is more correct or better, they just reflect a different set of rules for parsing the equation.”
Can you provide a source for this system? I have never heard of it (except from people who misremembered/ never learnt PEMDAS)
“Reading the comments here amaze me how convoluted people are in their thinking.”
Same!
This very topic amazed me when I first encountered it. I still find it fascinating
“PEMDAS is a convention, not a hard and fast rule.”
I’m not sure about that
In order to have meaningful symbolic math we all have to use the same conventions, thus making them hard and fast rules.Otherwise suppose I say + means divide or that 5 means take the square root , or when unsure just take the last number convert it to a letter and reply with a bird starting with that letter
In order for math to work we all have to agree what to do first when faced with say: 1 + 2 × 3
If there is no “rule” then 9, 7 or for that matter 11, 5.4, 6.3333456 and chicken all become equally correct depending on the individual’s “convention”
Fake
no thorny debate.
You made an assertion. Is it correct? I like learning new things .
If you can provide a source please supply it.
If you vaguely remember hearing it but aren’t exactly sure where or when, say that
If you just made it up say thatFlaming (and Yserbius)
you said “BUT, strictly speaking, there is only this juxtaposition between a constant coefficient and a variable, never a constant and another constant.”
(Yserbius didn’t say exactly that but implication is the same “These questions are all kind of silly, because the way it was written is ambiguous. “)I was under the impression that 2×2; 2*2; (2)(2); 2(2) are all equally valid ways of expressing the same thing, namely: two multiplied by two.
In which case there is absolutely no ambiguity and nothing remotely incorrect about the OP’s problem. (assuming you recall how to perform order of operations)can you provide a source for your assertion that the latter two equations above are ” technically incorrect”
(FWIW google had no problem solving them which seems odd for an equation that is not written correctly)We have come full circle.
The thread that first got me addicted to YWN was this one1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 – 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 x 0 = ?
I found it fascinating that even after the correct answer (with detailed explanation) ws pointed out to people they still insisted that there was more than one correct approach.
I love this place
Of course in this case the answer is 16
Participant
I understood it
so no that’s not itAAQ
I think he’s saying becasue the NYPD is involved and the ycan be sued in secular court beis din will let him include the mother and shomirim.
It is good that it makes no sense to yo, because the whole thing is silly. no-one is getting sued. I mean there are frivolous cases but even lawyers have their limits
The silliness level was the same
Participant
you forgot the rest of the line
Caesar didn’t know your rule, the rest of the line is “Then fall Caesar” which is English yet spoken to Romans and even if you argue that it is being said to the audience.
“Friends Romans countrymen…” is obviously being said to Romans yet in English
J’Accuse!
akuperma
“Thus none of the “examples” you suggest are even remotely relevant. ”
not necessarily. If Lanky and his friend are in some sort of anti-sefer club trying to get seforim banned or something, and he finds out his friend published a sefer he can say Et tu? You also published a sefer?
CS
Zero chance
for NYPD there has to be “probable cause” No question being accused of asking a child to leave with you is “probable cause”It is typically used as an unexpected betrayal
So unless you are frei and feel betrayed by the baal tshuva its a little odd to say ““Et tu?” he’s also a baal tshuvah?”
On the other hand “Et tu? You also vote democrat?” that I’ve heard
CS
“@GH, now the lawsuits start”
Chas veshalom! how can you suggest such a thing ?Are you suggesting this Erliche tzadik is anything but!!??
(and anyway he isn’t wining anything It is hard to imagine a jury faulting a mother who called authorities when she says she was concerned for her child. The only ones a bit at blame are the media cites though agian hard to show what damages they caused, generaly libel in the US is hard to win)
Another recent propublica story relevant to this thread
“How Cigna Saves Millions by Having Its Doctors Reject Claims Without Reading Them” which details exactly what headline suggests . Thousands upon thousands of claims rejected without actually being reviewed.
Again I get that cigna has to do this to be profitable. But that is exactly the problem
Avram
I don’t agree either. I was just saying if THAT was the impediment then ok I want Dr. P’s support so Ill settle fora coeercive measure to remove the impediment .
Perhaps as a way t o call his bluff, since I didnt really buy it as a real reasonThough, now that you mention it “I worry more about coercion,” I suppose its fair to argue (not saying this is your argument) that as bad as it is that patients hung out to dry when they need care, IF the only way to get Medicare for all is a coercive type system that would be worse.
I don’t agree, but that could be Dr. P’s responseAND
I f I may add to the last point
Even if you are right that medicare for all won’t work becasue people who don’t take care of their health will abuse the system
OK so support Medicare for all who do take care of their health (or at least try) . Exclude smokers, require exercise , I said a few times if thts what it would take to get you on board I’m inIn that case do we agree?
Dr p
no need to apologize my writing isnt great, and in my zeal to share I don’t always reread to ensure reads easily.Our main point of contention is the following
we agree that our current system Is not good, you even said “Its wrong”
“We also agree that (as unfortunate as it may be) CEOs (and companies) need to either be aggressive in denying claims (lawfully or unlawfully) to keep premiums down or they’ll either go bankrupt or put out of business by the competition. (It’s wrong, I know, but that’s the only way it can function.)”we agree that it doesnt work for many:
“It’s unfortunate and it doesn’t work for many people. I sympathize with them and wish something can be done”We disagree on the last part, namely as to whether something can be done.
I think a large part of our opinions come from our experience.
yes Isay opinions, you don’nt have anygood reason why it won’t work as I explained, though not nearly as well as Avram (your reasons were that the ACA didnt work though that was complely different , and that young people don’t take care of their health which isnt completely true and not grounded in any real data).I say we are talking from our experiences, because you said You don’t think a government run system would work “as well as probably every sane person in the country who currently has health insurance” This has not been my experience at all. In fact almost all people IVe discussed this with do not think its working. Now granted people tend to discuss insurance issues when the yhave a problem so my sample is certainly biased towards those who have had an “extreme situation” but those are PRECISLY the ones ho need the most help. The ones who have to decide whether to sell their house to afford cancer treatment to gain a few extra months . The ones who have gone bankrupt. These are real people, Ive met them. The system isnt working
You say nothing can be done., but you dont offer a compelling reason as to why not
That as where we disagree
taka
“Shtuyot. The plural is shtuyot.”
This isn’t correct. In Hebrew yes the plural is shtuyot but in Yiddish it is shtusim.
Same for Shabbosim
See Dovid Katz’s article “kapitlech in Yiddish” in the ALgemeiner Journal 2/12/2010.
Or ask any Yiddish speaker” I mentioned earlier that Medicare is generally for people aged 65 and older. People that age grew up in a different era where they took more responsibility for their health. Once you start including the younger generations the costs will spiral out of control.”
I dont think its an important point. I know young people careful about their health and old people that ignore it.
This is your go to for every example
elderly, Europeans All super careful about their health. dialysis patients, oh I guess they are too. You made an assertion, with out much to back it up
And no it wont spiral out of control. young people use much much less health dollars than those > 65“I don’t believe you’ve said that they should all be closed down.”
I don’t think you are reading my posts
Here are some verbatim quotes of mine” I don’t think health insurance should be a for profit industry.”
and
“Yes for a healthcare company to profit they have to deny healthcare. people need to suffer/die/go bankrupt. There is no other way.(you said this to me a few times as if I didnt get taht, I get it that is EXACTLY the problem with outr current system. IT CANNOT work for everyone)
The only way to have it work for everyone is for the government to step in”
and
“The truth is I don’t fault him or the company. that is their job they profit by denying healthcare that is there entire business model. I fault the business model.”
and
“You say it is a business. Yes I get that I don’t blame him. But I think it SHOULDN’T Be a business that is PRECISLEY my point. As I’ve been saying from the beginning. Business leads to morally wrong decisions and outcomes (as you agree). Healthcare as a business doesn’t work.”I don’t understand how you could have missed all these
“The massive salaries that the CEOs make can not pay for all the claims that are denied ”
Lets take one a t a time. Lets start with him, he’s a really nice guy“What part don’t you understand-”
I don’t understand why you keep repeatign this. Yes I know the WHY the ceo makes money. I know how. I dont think he should. I don’t think healthcare should be a for profit industry.
Your response to that has been “well the CEO deserves the profit”. He only deserves the high salary if you think healthcare should be a for profit industry. yes in a for profit healthcare world he desrves high slary. He helped guide thousands of denials! he shortned so man ylives saving the company millions. He definitely deserves his salary. But this is a premise I completely reject (again and again and again)“As mentioned previously, Medicare works because it’s for a more responsible part of the population”
Yes you mentioned that. I dont think you have any real data to bck that up.
And again i’ll bet the extra expense incurred by the young population that ignores there health is much less than the expenses incurred by the elderly that don’t.“When I used to take my kids to the doctor for an ear infection I would make sure to follow the doctors directions and pick up the medication right away-”
you get a gold star!
Some of my patients do some don’t I see no correlation based on their insurance“If they keep paying all the bills (with no cost to the patient) what’s going to discourage someone with a paper cut from going to the emergency room,”
The uninsured already do that . Providing them insurance would ease the pressure on emergency rooms, they can now go to their regular doctor“You need to explain why you think the same US Government could successfully run something of a much larger magnitude.”
Medicare works, here other countries manage. I see no reason why the US can’t manage soemthing similar.
The fact that something else was tried has nothing to do with this .Sure
No premiums. taxes go up. Government pays for health costs.
Easy peasy
Same as medicare just for everybody“I’ve said this point before and you haven’t addressed is so I’m going to repeat again- this is mostly due to the irresponsible culture here of people not caring about their health or taking responsibility for their wellbeing.”
I am nto sure what there is to address. But I’ll repeat it again so encourage people to care about their health.
“You still haven’t explained how a company will survive with a low paid CEO.”
for the 21st? Time they shouldn’t survive. that is my plan.
How on earth are you still not getting this?Take one day’s worth of the Ceo’s salary use it to pay my neighbor’s cancer treatment for 2 years (10,000 a month), the ceo will barely notice the missing money its not even a rounding wrror. And neighbor gets to live a few more years . I know I know “no sane person” would expect insurance company to shell out money just to gain few years (The rep practically told him that too) . and leshitascha I can’t blame them they have to make profit.
“CMS isn’t a private company- it’s a government agency.”
YES!!!! Exactly. so it can be done.
” typical company that acted like that would be out of business within a year…”
This is incorrect Medicare is very popular.
and by far the easiest company to deal with.“Obviously the shareholders and board which determines his compensation felt that that’s what he’s worth. If you feel that he’s overpaid start a mutual, not-for-profit company that’s owned by the policy holders, become the low paid CEO, pay all claims, charge lower premiums and if you can stay in business you can put them out of business- that’ll show them.”
what ? Seriously, What?
“CAN NOT work until people start taking more responsibility for their health. Can you please respond to that directly?”
Again?
Sure. so encourage people to take more responsibility. You got me. I’m in.“Uh- there was- the comparison to the public school that I just repeated again. Please explain why it’ll be different”
Sure.
firstly Medicare works so no reason to compare to ecucation which is less similar.
Second all the government will be doing is paying the bills. The Government is nt running anything You still go to your doctor and instead of him billing aetna he bills medicare. Just like he’ll do when you are 65 just does it earlier
And I’m not sure how you think private medical insurance makes sure their clients are listening to doctors any more than Medicare does. In fact Medicare (escpecially with dialysis) is MORE data driven deducting pay certain medical benchmarks arent made (like keeping hemoglobin in certain range, keeping out of hospital etc)“”You’re going to have to defend the ACA if you’re insisting that the government can come up with a single player system that’ll work after they failed miserably on something of a much smaller scale.”
I dont understand this.
I support one idea, why do I “have to” defend a different idea ?” Please explain though why any sane person (not in an extreme situation) would want to pay more for a lower quality healthcare system?”
I am advocating paying less for a higher quality system.
By any Benchmark the US pays MORE for healthcare. By most benchmarks we have worse outcomes.“The reason why we’re the only nation where this regularly happens is because we’re the only nation where it’s ingrained in people’s culture that life (their own or others) has little to no value. Change that culture and the number of mass shootings will go down.”
YES!!!!
complete agreement!
Same for healthcare. “Hey it works for me who cares about those it doesnt work for, that is just a necessary evil” (almost a verbatim quote)“At this point I’m getting pretty frustrated with this discussion”
same
1. … Can you show me (or explain how it’s possible) a health insurance company (public or private) that functions with a low paid CEO?
As I said (20 times?) I don’t think health insurance should be a for profit industry. So while you keep repeating this point over and over. It has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand . Ok so CEO wont be filthy rich. I’m fine with using that extra $$$ to approve more cancer treatments.
You say there is no CEO of a healthcare company that gets a reasonable salary. Yes I know, THAT is the problem The problem IS that health insurance IS a for profit venture. Yes Its hard to find a reasonably paid CEO, that is EXACTLY the problem. Have I really not said this ????But if you insist as far as I can tell Chiquita Brooks-Lasure the head of CMS (center for medicare and medicaid services) makes $249,723. In contrast Cigna CEO David Cordani took home more than $91 million in 2021 thats more than 364 times as much!!! put another way, he made her salary every single day of the year minus his birthday.
2. I opined that until people learn to take responsibility for themselves a…. Can you please explain why you disagree with that?
As I said over a month ago (February 2, 2023 5:35 pm) that is a technicality. If you want to increase taxes on smoking /sugary drinks etc to encourage good behavior. sure I can get on board. You want some sort of mandatory exercise program, I’m a bit squeamish but ok if thats what it takes I’m in
” and you don’t respond to many of the strong points that I make.”
My apologies I missed all of your “strong points”
Do you mind repeating themThere were no points in this last post that were strong nor that I didn’t previously reply to
“(I’m not familiar with kidney dialysis but does Mediare actually pay for all their expenses?)”
Yes!!!
IT is the one disease if a person gets it they automatically get government funded health insurance (after a waiting period)
Can thank Nixon ofr that of all people.
” Why aren’t you going to defend it [ACA]? If the government failed catastrophically at the ACA, why do you think they’re going to succeed at something that’s going to be much larger?… The last time they tried this (i.e. the ACA), they failed miserably.”
I’m not defending ACA because that is not my proposal. A single payer system was proposed but quickly shot down.
“I’m in the first category (as well as probably every sane person in the country who currently has health insurance)”
That hasn’t been my experience.
Most people I talk to who have had a medical expense (Cancer treatment denied, procedure denied both in the past week) do not think this is working. They are sane people, but whereas you “sympathize with them and wish something can be done” I know that something can be doneYou remind me of the Onion article that runs after every mass shooting “”‘No Way to Prevent This’, Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens”
I can hear it:
“No way to fix this says only country where medical bills is leading cause of bankruptcy” !
And “we have the best healthcare system in the world says the country with highest healthcare expenditure and lowest life expectancy of (almost) any western country”