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Most kids want to go back to school. Obviously you need to have a professional evaluate why your kids don’t want to get to school.
Most of the organizations use commissioned sales people to call for money and I have a problem with that.
If your wife asked not to give her ride why are you even asking the question? I think instead of asking a rov you should speak with a therapist and discuss with the therapist why the urge not to heed your wife’s request.
was meant to show the stupidity of just saying we need to always do like we did in Europe. ( And I have heard people say that regarding what foods we can eat on Shabbos)
This whole business of not changing what we did Europe is such a fallacy it’s sad that there are some who believe in it.
In Europe many women did not cover her hair.
In Europe very few if any boys learned in Kollel.
In Europe many women did not learn any Chumash.( only tzena renna)
In Europe Bar mitzvah boys did not lain their Parsha.
In Europe a bas mitzvah girl did not even have a party with her family.
In Europe no one ate dips.
In Europe the Rebbe hit any kid in cheder who didn’t have the place when he was learning.
We live in America, technology has changed everything and if we want to have normal healthy kids we need to daven to hashem that he gives us the brains to figure out how to bring up kids in America.
And if want our girls to stay healthy we should offer them alternative programs in their school during Hakafos.
wedon’t have moshiach because we don’t really care about our kids both boys and girls ! Second of all I didn’t say anything about women dancing with the torahs but I would venture to guess that when sara schneir had the guts to open up a bais Yaakov they said the same things. jewish history pc people don’t realize how many in the main stream opposed her in her efforts to give girls a torah education.
Back to the point at hand jewish girls unmarried are bored out of there minds on simchas torah and the girls schools are to lazy to do anything about it.
Every girls school should make there own programs with dancing etc.
neither! just a normal kid who liked camp because I went to an awesome camp and sent my kids to that camp and they loved it as well. Obviously had I had such a bad experience like you had I would not have sent my kid back there.
P.S. I doubt any simcha shtark kid would waste his time posting on yeshivah world
This color war thing really bothers you a lot. Despite the fact that almost every poster claims they love color war you are so gung ho against it that you need to make up a fabrication that a camp with 600 kids will make a color war because 90 kids who control the camp really like it. Get over it and if it makes you feel good believe your made up ideas but the fact is in most camps the reason they have color war is because most kids enjoy it!
Marbehshalom you make broad statements that all camps have lousy color wars and then when most people who comment seem too have had positive experiences you get upset. You then write only people who comment in the coffee room enjoy it because they have issues and need to be heard ( don’t you also comment?)
And now you say we are distorting your words.
Face it most kids enjoy color war , if they wouldn’t the camps wouldn’t have them since a camp is a business like everything else and they need to keep the consumer happy, and you went to a camp where they don’t and for some reason u send your kid to a camp where they do the same.
I am not sure what you are referring to about poking fun. In the camp I went to the teams actually helped each other with ideas for skits, songs and plays. The highlights of color war were both teams dancing together after the marches and both teams singing and dancing together at the end of the grand sing. I feel bad you missed out on positive experience that manyof us had by going to the wrong camp and now sending your child to a bad camp. Speak with the camp your child goes to about eliminating color war or change your child’s camp. I am not sure why it bothers you that others enjoyed something you didn’t. No one is disagreeing with you that you hated color war. We are disagreeing with what you write about everyone else is feeling.
Wow it seems Marbehsholom has attended every single camp!
I think the styles have changed and now very short hair is in by the goyim so based on the expert opinions posted here all frum jews need to grow very long hair.
Marbehsholom either send your kid to a camp that does color war correctly or send your kid to a camp that doesn’t have color war. I do feel bad for you that you missed out on the joys of going to a camp where color war is done correctly but we all miss out on many good experiences and should be happy for those good experiences we did have.
Chaveirim are the greatest people! Must of us are used to reacting and wait for chas vsholom something bad to happen and then react. People who volunteer for chaveirim without fanfare are working to insure that emergencies do not happen in the first place. Thank you chaveirim!!!!
The over 400 students in the grades that have color war in my school who heard a rumor that color war might not have taken place this past year and begged the school to keep color war going vote yes.
marbehsholom send your kid to a different camp next summer.
COLOR WAR IS AMAZING!!!! Obviously the person who started this post probably went to a bad camp. ( Based on what you wrote about the actions of what goes on during color war it is obviously a bad camp) Color war when done right is the highlight for many kids summer experience and helps propel so many to a year of great learning in school. I do feel bad that that marbehsholom never had this experience. Please make sure that your kids go the right camps.
Although davening is important I think mitzvah of tzedakah takes precendence
After reading all the comments I think I can summarize the discussion this way. Those who don’t eat Chalav Stam are jealous of those that do ( and don’t have to worry that their milk will be spoiled after one day)and feel if they can’t enjoy life as much as those that eat cholov stam the least they can do is try and make them feel guilty. On the other hand those that eat cholov stam feel that they need permission from those that don’t eat so as not to feel as guilty as they do. I myself enjoy cholov Stam and enjoy the drinks at DD ( the food is to fattening) and don’t need any permission from anyone besides My Rov.
p.s the microwave story is an old story and FYI the mashgiach removed the supervision and the Franchise did get in some trouble with the main headquarters.
Not exactly sure what cherrybims point is about kiruv organizations but as far as the Saturday night program goes not sure how the live feed looked as I did not watch it because I was actually there. Being there was very inspiring for me and a my son – but more importantly the unaffiliated Jew from Argentia who sat next to me was very inspired and he did not mind bothering his host who was sitting on the other side of him to explain many of the things that were going on at the event.
I believe many of the negative commenters who are against reaching out to the unaffiliated would have gained much from hearing Charlie Harary’s words motzei Shabbos live.
The Shabbos was highly successful!
I believe that the advice from Yatzmich should not be followed! There are a lot of details that you are leaving out. What kind of relationship does your son have with this friend? If your child is in his 20s will he listen to you if you tell him to stop? If he is a normal 20 year old he will not and might actually hide from you his friendship where you can be the positive influence and instead be drawn down by his friend. My advice is NEVER TAKE ADVICE FROM RANDOM PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET! Go with your son to someone who deals with otd kids ( not Gedolim who would answer the question without telling you to go to an expert. My experience has been that most Gedolim will send you to an expert) and let your son describe his relationship with his friend and then follow that experts advice! Good luck!
First of all Mr. Rechnitz is an amazing person as instead of talking he is actually doing. If you don’t like what he is spending money then spend your money on what you think it important.
When I pass a beautiful yeshivah building with someone’s name on it I also think wow couldn’t they have made that yeshivah half as nice and give the rest of the money to Rebbeiim teaching in the yeshiva or to poor people- but it’s not my money it’s the person who donated it’s money and he or she can give it to what they please.
When it comes to changing the attitude of the yeshivas, seminaries and everyone else is attitude that was suggested here i think we need to keep Mr. Rechnitz out the discussion and see how we can effect change ourselves.
If I understand Charlie Hall correctly if I decide to wear tefillin on chol hamoed then I would only have to wait 1 hour after meat for dairy-sign me up! it is certainly worth it.
That being said there should be a better way for women to express simchas hatorah ( not they necessarily should hold a torah )than watching men dance. Certainly single women should have their own programs to celebrate and enjoy the yom tov. I could see married women enjoying seeing their kids dance with their father so let them choose if they want to go to shul or go to the amazing women’s program.
Simple question. If someone had such amazing powers as to preform miracles- wouldn’t he realize that hashem gave it to him to help others and not charge money? I could also be cynical and ask why a miracle worker would need someone else to give him a money. STAY AWAY!!!
If you are thinking of breaking up because of this instead of trying to work hard and figure out the solution you probably have many other issues about this relationship and just using this as an excuse to break up.
Safari closed down for theme park call ncsy .
I am sure when you take the amud you will follow the halacha which says not to be a tircha dtzeiburah! there are many famous roshei Yeshivas who when davening for the amud would obviously keep the halacha. Unfortunately had some of our posters davened with the roshei yeshivas they would find the need to criticize them on the coffee room.
Do I need to check and see if every shul is built according to zoning laws before I walk in?
The Rosh yeshivah was referring to a mets game as usually by a mets game the crowd is only 50 people.
Thanks to dans deals iyh there will be a large frum crowd at the mets game chol hamoed- maybe they can insert matza into the take me out to the ballpark song.
Unfortunately your attitude is not a healthy one. You are judging your parents without even knowing why they sent you to the school that they did. In addition you feel that everyone around you needs to be exactly like you in order to succeed. What will you do when you change schools and realize that people over there sin as well. If I am not mistaken Reb nosson zvi finkel zt’l went to a coed yeshivah high school and still became Reb Nosson Tzvi. If you want to change yeshivas speak with your parents and explain your reasons. Most importantly be proud of your parents- your father is a Rav in a shul- he is helping saving the Jewish people.
If you focus on yourself and not on others life will be easier in your new school when you realize that all yidden have nisyonos they just come in different strokes for different folks. Hatzlacha.
Hopefully this will force our Rabbanim to do something about husbands not giving gittin! This story will shed light on how so called Rabbanim help husbands extort money ! Or maybe they will just say see the problem with the internet now yiddin know how bad our system works when it comes to gittin. They should go after the so called Rabbanim who help husbands extort money from the family of agunot just to give a get!
To me this whole thread seems like a waste of time. The shul has a Rabbi and just tell the Rabbi what your issue is and only the Rabbi should deal with it. He will know where the woman is holding and if it’s worth making an issue or not. If your Rabbi feels he should deal with it he will and if you are not happy with the Rabbi’s choice of how to deal with it and you can’t control your eyes then just switch shuls. Any issue that I have ever had with how things have run in my shul I tell my Rabbi about and then I trust him to make the right choices. If you do not trust your Rabbi you should find another shul regardless of how this tzinus issue is resolved.
If your parents already paid 18000 and can’t get it back it’s not fair to them to try and go to seminary and make them pay that money again. That being said you must go to a din torah ( or better yet an American court if they have any type of American arm) and you will win despite what you signed.
to torah613torah- When I was a child my Parents ROV had very little to do with me or my siblings getting in to schools , seminary’s shidduchim etc. At most they received a phone call checking me out for a shidduch. Nowadays Rabbanim spend half their day advocating for their misspalleims kids to get into school, seminary camp etc. And when it comes to shidduchim it’s unheard of the amount of time a good Rov who cares about his missplallim has to spend dealing with it.
What do you mean “18,000” went to waste? if they threw you out before the year even started you must get every penny back. you must take them to a din torah now!
Have your parents call your Rav and have your Rav make some calls to seminary’s and let them know how you deserve to be in a good seminary and he might be able to open some doors for you. Unfortunately we live in such a ridiculous society where one stupid call gets your life turned upside down. Being a Rov is a full time job nowadays because stupidities like this.
The question is do you need to forgive the people in your land who followed the advice of the satmar rebebe shlita and did not vote in the election. Had all eligible chareidim voted according to most opinions the charedi parties would have had 2 more seats and perhaps one would have come at the expense of yesh atid so 2 more for the chareidim and one less for yesh atid might have pushed the powers to include the chareidim and keep the child subsidy where it was.
Shraga- for some reason the moderator didn’t let my last post go through so ill just wish you hatzlacha and let you know that there is hope as the peace plans being negotiated now will probably cause Bennet and his party to leave the coalition so if the charedi parties could stop demonizing lapid and lipman there is a possibility they could join the collation and have your funds restored.
p.s. when they do say thank you for the “GIFT”
Shraga- did you say thank you to the government every year when you received the gift? Obviously I hope you get your gift back but as others have explained already your gift was coming at the expenses of others who might have needed the same gift. I truly believe that the charedi parties never looked at it as a gift but rather as a right, and had they looked at it like you as a gift and said thank you there is a good chance you would still be receiving it.
And before saying that the attitude of the charedi parties is what the gedolim decide MK Porush recently stated that they do not consult the gedolim on every move . Indeed he admitted he did not ask a gadol before embarrassing the charedim by handcuffing himself to the podium in the Knesset.
Basically the way the government in Israel works whoever controls the government controls the funds. Obviously the party you chose to vote for is not in the government and therefore your funding was reduced. If anything you might have to thank Lipman for what you do have.
In America instead of forming our own party the Jews try to keep working relationships with each party and thus try to have some input with each party. If the Charedi tzibur cannot survive without these funds perhaps it’s time to disband the charedi parties and start to join the mainstream parties where they would carry a lot of clout in a primary with the numbers they make up.
In addition I read all over the frum websites that there was a massive campaign to raise the money the charedim were losing do to the budget cuts and distribute them to the charedi public – what happened to this fund? Hatzlacha!
I would assume Lev aryeh is still very young. In today’s court system many times it makes sense to just plea bargain than fight even if you are innocent. Let’s take this case which I don’t know much about but had the defendant been offered up front a plea bargain with the 6 months sentence she would have been a fool not to take it even is she was 100% innocent. The amount of months to prepare your defense is much more than 6 months. the cost of defending yourself even when you are innocent is astronomical. In addition no matter how innocent you are to leave your fate in the hands of 12 jurors is a big mistake. they can make the innocent guilty of the guilty innocent.
I would assume this letter is a hoax. If it is not that dare I say that the rosh yeshivas in the Mir would be depressed if they knew one of there own had such chutzpah. Not only does he not want to say thank you to the soldiers but now he feels that it’s only the soldiers averios that caused all our problems and the frum in eretz yisroel don’t do any averios! Again, especially as a parent of a former talmid in the mir I believe that this letter is a hoax.
Shopping613- as I am a bit older in than you please allow me to tell you something that is very important. When someone is anonymous and says something negative about another person it means nothing and it should not hurt you at all. Usually the person who writes the negative comments is either a real bad person who feels good about hurting someone else or has a low self esteem. You should try and speak with a professional to help you with the other issues you mentioned here but as far as this place if you enjoy it stick around but just laugh off the nasty comments cause if you knew who that person was you would just laugh!
to the mod- my computer went a bit crazy and my post was posted 4 times when you allow it to post please delete three of them. Thank you.
As was the case with the Yeshivah of Flatbush story there seems to be some people who love knocking kids that are not the 100% frummie frummie. My sense is that those that knock are mostly teenagers and I have no idea what motivates them to knock other Jewish kids.
Waterbury is an amazing Yeshivah with an amazing Rosh Yeshivah and amazing rabbeim. And yes the Rosh Yeshivah has a heart and instead of caring about his kovod he cares about kovod shomayim. And yes a few of the students are kids who were thrown out of other yeshivahs- as he knows most boys who were thrown out of yeshivah nowadays would never have been thrown out in the old days. And those boys who weren’t thrown out years ago are today’s choshuve rabbonim and rosh yeshivah’s. Waterbury has great kids! Kol hakovod to Rabbi Kaufman and Rabbi Kalish.
writersoul: Obviously like most people you will not admit that you erred in your initial posts so continuing this conversation is a waste of time. I would assume that tomorrow when you discuss this with your Beis Yaakov teachers they will tell you what kind of tzadeikes you are for knocking 107 modern orthodox people.( I know many of my daughters teachers would say the same.) Based on how you described your Rov I am hopeful that your Rov might not disagree with your thought process but he might say going on line and brushing an entire group of kids where all agree most are innocent is not consistent with Vahavta lereiacha komocho that he tries to teach you. I guess when my son starts shidduchim if they red him a girl from monsey I will ask the shadchan for the girls handle on ywn as I wouldn’t want him to have to apologize the whole date for things he didn’t do wrong. I wish you hatzalcah on all your tests go study!!!
rebdoniel: You must have many serious issues to knock the entire Syrian community in one stroke. You are not proudly modern orthodox you are proudly a sonei yisroel.
writersoul:IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT YOU DO- IT’S REALLY WHAT PEOPLE THINK YOU DO.
This is the original quote from your comment when you demanded that YOF apologize.
You now write if it Lakewood is receiving money legally they do not need to apologize. Despite the fact that other people think it’s wrong for Lakewood you giving a free pass.
No assumptions just facts:
The executive director of YOF issues a statement that says the kids were right. Two chaperons are quoted as saying the airline overreacted.
You disregard them and says it’s really what people think that matters.
Once a week there is another call to investigate the matter in Lakewood but you assume it’s legal despite what people think.
No assumptions but obviously there are biases.
You told us how you were brought so ill tell you how I was brought up and how I try to bring my kids up:
Lakewood Is the preeminent yeshivah in Klall Yisroel and unless someone is chas vshalom pulling the wool over the Rosh yeshivas I don’t question what they do and we Do not apologize because people don’t like what they do.
As far as YOF goes I doubt any of my kids will go there but I know they are a fine torah institution teaching Torah to my fellow Jews. They produce kids who go on to be fine torah jews who contribute so much to the Jewish people.( Including producing one of today’s leading Rosh Yeshivahs)
So there you have no assumptions just the facts – think before you disparage 109 fellow Jews!
moishyk: I was told by someone who heard from someone else that the airline seated the kids in different sections of the plane and they literally threw off kids who had no clue what was going on as they were away from the disturbance.( everyone agrees there was some sort of disturbance although the disturbance doesn’t seem much different than the person who sat next to me last time I flew and was told 4 times to shut the phone).That might explain why some kids might of used hyperbole when they called it anti Semitism( although the more I read the comments on cnn the more I realize that anti semtisim still exists) They should have asked one chaperon to get off with the kids who did something wrong and the rest are on there way.
Had they done this my feeling is the kids kicked off would have apologized and then the airline could have determined if they let these kids on another flight or not. It is obvious the airline realized that what the crew did by punishing all was unfair( and maybe illegal) and that’s why they quickly let every kid on the next flight and from what I would assume let every kid return home together on the same flight. ( and gave each kid 2 vouchers )
Writersoul: If Lakewood is taking the money when they are not entitled to it then they are injuring all the taxpayers in New Jersey. Indeed this is the complaint in the secular press ( and the Jewish media that despises people who learn Torah)
You can’t pick and choose you need to be consistent. You want YOF to apologize even if they aren’t wrong yet Lakewood does not have to?
I am certain that if this was not a coed Yeshivah we would not dare believe one side of the story without hearing the other. If this story happened with a mainstream yeshivah and it hit YWN before it hit CNN every “ASKAN” in Flatbush with the agudah, shomrim, cojo etc would have been at the airport demanding an apology. We would have mobilized every chesed organization to give them food for there 12 hours journey through Milwaukee yet we hear they are “Modern” so we did nothing. Did we even pick up the phone and call the frum people we know in Milwaukee to check them out. No they are modern and if a few kids misbehaved we could care less about them. Let’s be honest the only time we ever reach out to the ” modern” side is when we need there money. In my shul we wouldn’t let a person the amud without a hat( I would assume in yours as well) but by the siyum hashas we let the sponsor say the Kadddish without one because he was a sponsor. You mentioned earlier about chesbonos from hashem I dare say that i doubt he is happy with our response.