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@AAQ, very different scenarios, your talking about if I invite someone to MY house and if I should go the extra mile to make him happy.
Here are three closer scenarios, a total stranger approaching children riding bikes yelling at them to wear helments, someone walking up and down the sidewalk telling people to cross the street at the light because jaywalking is illegal, someone stopping cars in the parking lot reminding people to buckle up, here are some examples of someone just being civic minded after all they were in violation of state law.

A majority of Americans dying from the coronavirus received at least the primary series of the vaccine.
Fifty-eight percent of coronavirus deaths in August were people who were vaccinated or boosted, according to an analysis conducted for The Health 202 by Cynthia Cox, vice president at the Kaiser Family Foundation.

It’s a continuation of a troubling trend that has emerged over the past year. As vaccination rates have increased and new variants appeared, the share of deaths of people who were vaccinated has been steadily rising. In September 2021, vaccinated people made up just 23 percent of coronavirus fatalities. In January and February this year, it was up to 42 percent, per our colleagues Fenit Nirappil and Dan Keating.

“We can no longer say this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated,” Cox told The Health 202.

@yserbius123, actually it’s a very honest and factual way of putting things, My FIL and my BILs father were both hospitalized with moderate covid symptoms, and both came out in worse shape than the way they went in, both have stories of terrible neglect, not getting food, care etc.
Nursing home operators let people die, i had people from chavra kaddisha tell me what filth the people died in.
Yes, we need a full accounting, including the dismal drop in test scores, killing the economy and people, all for the sake of a silly piece of cloth that never helped anyway.

about 1 Millon lives were lost in the US and about half were caused by covid rules, ie hostpital neglect, nursing home deaths etc, fyi I never called anyone names while I saw a everything from a rotzach to a mechallel hashem for suggesting the rules went overboard, and everyone should do what they feel is best.

@Jackk, thunder shumnder, The GOP has the 5 over top and thats all what matters at this point, FYI it looks like McCarty and Salese knew what they were doing because they came 4 times to stump for Lawler.

@AQ, I still stand by what I said, FYI I was not the one who brought up covid amnesty, It was some college prof, in a magazine and quickly pick up by the UFT who did not want held accounable for the actions, I still think there should be a full accountabilty across the board for the Covid rules and reg.
Now how does that add up to this? “SO, YOU CAN’T CALL PEOPLE NAMES FOR HOLDING BY IT.”
When did I call anyone names?

@jackk, the net flip was one seat and that flip because a number of flaw candidates or in the case of nevada a better GOTV, Wisconsin fail to flip because of the flawed candidate on the Dems.
Now explain why the NY and NJ seats flipped.

Sadly Robert Francis O’Rouke and Stacey Abrams are not capable of fading away but you can always hope.
In the 18 Pat Ryan was elected with the margin from KJ, I hope they get use to having someone in the minority in congress, the majority leader from the Bayou quickly learned what Chaverim is and the difference between an Aroni and Zali.

@yserbius123, at the risk of sounding like a chauvinistic new yorker, go daven shows a grand total of 35 shuls in the greater Baltimore Area, hardly 100s of 1000s. Baltimore has no influence in Lakewood or NY with the expectation of Pride of the Farm Ice Cream. about half of Lakewood reopened by Shevous and didn’t give a hoot about what someone in Baltimore, Miami or LA thinks, goes without saying that most of Brooklyn pretty much ignored whatever outsider’s opinions were.

@Reb E, and the yiddisher vote played a large part in flipping the house.

@AAQ, my guess is the Rav Heineman has a following of 800 people, Rabbi Billet has a following of 500 people that leaves you about about 1 M who have other daas torah, and who gives these two rabbonim the right to dictate the way for other rabbonim to run the kehillas?

We are still paying the price for being overprotective both internaly and the world at large, the state that reopened the quickest had the quickest economic recovery, and yeshivas who had a quick reopening in spite of the despot Cuomo had almost no gap in the childrens learning.

@yserbius, I don’t recall that thread, but stupid comments are the norm here, compared to the people who were snitching of the neighbors, a Rabbi who threatened another Rav who reopened his shul, or a shul in Florida who threatened members after they daven in a porch minyan, your pretty mild.
Question is should we forgive and forget?

let focus on our community, there was a rabbi from the 5 towns who said that if anyone said kaddish during covid it was worthless and viilified any who dared to daven with a minyan and threatened a Rav who kept his shul open, there were people in the community who were active in misira, some school were closed for the duration. Do we forgive and forget?

PS the one person who learned the hard way that actions means something is Billl Deblasio who could not get support from the frum rank and file for any elected office after the way he acted to the frum people duriing covid.

@Goldilocks
Here are five for starters.
1. Test scores in the celler because schools were closed for an extended period of time, in spite of the fact there was not a idota of evidence that children have a high rate of transmission.
2. Commerce came to a halt because of lock down causing a slew of businesses to close.
3. Shuls lost members and others closed because of lockdown.
4. People lost jobs for refusal to vacinate.
5. Office building were empty and still are because of remote work

@reb e, and what does this have with the local congressional races, I get it that you despise Trump and the Zeldin married a shiksa, but most of Jewish elected officials are intermarried, I am voting for them not being meshadich with them

@Reb E, big deal your ex-congressman Max Rose who you voted for 3 times married a shiksa as well.
Sadly, intermarriage is off the charts, about of elected Jews married out of the faith including 2 whose “husbands” are non jews