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It may not stop all, but likely stops some.
Writersoul, the slippery slope goes both ways.
I don’t agree with his definition.
Patur, since our posts both had ish in a lot of words, they both must be saying essentially the same thing. I think I’ve said enough on the ish, you.
A YCT teshuvah by popa:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/keurig-fans-are-the-biggest-trolls#post-549417
They weren’t gozer blios on hamtanah, but l’chatchilah, kelim with blios of issur remain assur until kashered.
“Labeling is good for jars, but pretty useless for a human being.”
You probably figured unless she got a kallah shas when she got married, she wouldn’t know.
So the answer to the question of the thread title is “yes”.
If ?? ????? ???? is literal, how can the rest of the medrash take place?
You forgot to post the rest of the story.
After thinking for a while that he was unselfish and filled with the midos of someone Jewish, she began to distinguish between reality and what had been merely a wish.
It started when she sent him to buy gefite fish, but he came home with a potato knish. When she asked for a danish, he got her a piece of licorice. It seemed so amateurish to have such an obvious blemish.
“You’ll impoverish us!” she said once in a fit of snappish frustration, “if you continue to do things so outlandish”.
Pesach was a nightmare. He would only eat horseradish, and wouldn’t mish.
Things continued to become more and more nightmarish, and got to the point where they separated, and he was ????? ?”? ????.
She realized that only caring about the last three letters of his characteristics was extremely foolish.
My supply of ish words I did finish (it was pretty smallish, sorry more I couldn’t furnish), but maybe I’ll post more if I replenish.
He liked him?
So did I.
Popa, aren’t you a K-cup fan?
29, that depends who owns it. In fact, though, aside from the cost, I am not interested in having a Keurig machine because of the tevilah issue.
No, but the bigger issue would be for someone who is makpid on keilim for cholov stam.
Mahar”anta
Lior, google “baby not held enough”.
Anyone have any real suggestions how to solve the problem.
How about we follow the Torah, and let Hashem take care of the rest?
Must be frustrating.
You’re old enough to drink when you’re old enough to hold the bottle
You stole that from the LIBBI ad.
Does his not throwing out his trash make things harder for you, or does it just bother you on principle?
Either way, best to drop it, but I am curious as to what the issue is.
Well, that’s because Lipman hasn’t commented on the thread.
Let’s, say, for arguments’s sake, he was sincerely reacting to an actual unfortunate incident.
Does this give him the right to overturn established halachah? Does this give him the right to even get involved in a serious shailah involving klal Yisroel? Does it give him the right to twist and distort teshuvos to his liking?
His vicious attacks on the Torah, on the halachic process, and on kedushas Yisroel are what are unwarranted, and be needs to be called out on it.
And frankly, someone who so badly oversteps his bounds, and so badly twists his sources, has no credibility anyhow.
That’s not what he said, and that’s not what he meant.
Semantics. He thinks what’s good for “klal Yisroel” is what’s good for citizens of a secular state, not the am haTorah. In other words, he has redefined klal Yisroel. Sure, for a secular state, citizenry can be defined any way you want, and to throw a bone to halachah, he can find shittos (and then twist them) to say that what he’s doing is halachic. If he defined klal Yisroel as the am haTorah, he would never do that.
Why is a concern for Jews in the state
of israel not a concern for klal yisroel?
It is, but that’s not what he said, or what he did.
You don’t make a bracha in Ivrit, you make it in Lashon Hakodesh.
what I view as – a tremendous internal threat to the future of the state of Israel
He is not concerned for the future of klal Yisroel, only for the future of the State of Israel. This was obvious before I saw the quote, which just spells it out.
This is the danger of “isms”. He thinks he does care about halachah, but he is blinded by his “ism”. It’s the same as the OO. Different “ism” (liberalism), same skewing of the Torah.
Note: this is not a condemnation of every self identified Zionist or, for that matter liberal. I am just explaining why these movements are dangerous.
A non Zionist would be concerned, but wouldn’t word it that way, would have a different way of dealing with it, and wouldn’t throw halacha under the bus, creating a much bigger problem.
PAA, the quote from your post immediately following mine says it better than I ever could.
Popa, you mean they aren’t Jewish.
Whether they are correct or incorrect halachically, they make the point that if these people don’t convert it will lead to tremendous confusion because these immigrants have Jewish ancestry and act like Jews (not necessarily like religious Jews) and serve in the IDF and are Israeli citizens, but they are not halachically Jewish.
Wait, aren’t you the one who doesn’t understand why the zionism debate is still relevant today?
No, it is wrong to defend someone of his meager stature getting involved in serious shailos affecting klal Yisroel for the sake of political gain.
Also, he is not saying to be mattir b’dieved or even b’shaas had’chak (when real poskim have clearly said this is NOT a shaas had’chak), he wants to make this an option for any potential giyores who wants. At least that’s what it says in the Jpost article which I read.
You shouldn’t dismiss popa’s more recent post so easily. Don’t take it literally, but take it seriously. He made an important point about the current state of affairs being the opposite of a shaas had’chak, which was a point made by Chacham Ovadiah, quoted by Patur Aval Assur, which you seem to have missed.
ROB, you present Lipman’s suggestion as if it’s straight out of the Shulchan Aruch. I think you are misunderstanding both.
Ubiquitin, I don’t think the point is whether giving gifts is rational, I think the point is whether specifically giving on Chanukah is rational.
That’s what I got for my wife. Don’t tell her.
parents (black, white, purple) ALL need to instruct their children from day one, that they need to speak respectfully to people in authority, NOT give them attitude and a fresh mouth, and be compliant when confronted with the police, especially when they are doing something illegal
“Johnny, how many times do I have to tell you, when you rob a store, be nice to the cops”.
Sam, I have seen enough Shidduchim broken up over the Chassan asking for a too-expensive Shas (and the Kallah expecting a too-expensive ring).
Nebach. Two differences, though. The most expensive chosson shas is probably less expensive than the least expensive engagement ring, and the difference between a cheap chosson shas and an expensive one is relatively small, while an engagement ring can range from around $2,000 until, well, ein l’davar sof.
Popa, it’s not fair to compare ROB to Lipman. It’s one thing to be blatantly wrong and discuss it on the CR. Nu nu. It’s rish’us to try to actually change the process based on a blatant error.
NDG, according to Rabbi Gordimer, they most definitely did misrepresent the process.
PAA, I don’t think the eitzah Sam mentioned is a more substantial yedia. Yours sounds interesting. ????”?.
PAA, shkoyach for the mareh m’komos.
Sam, how was R’ Uziel’s position misrepresented?
ROB, you apparently didn’t read the mareh m’komos, which show that he is misusing the psakim. And I stand by my assertion that you can’t cherry pick psakim as you see fit. The gedokei haposkim clearly were against this eitzah as l’chatchilah form of geirus, and R’ Ovadiah was clearly of the strong opinion that we specifically should NOT be looking for kulos in this area.
rob: If we’re not great enough to reject an opinion then we are certainly not great enough to Pasken like it against bigger opinions.
Agreed
Nisht: Be fair and don’t drag “Modern Orthodoxy” into this. The vast majority of self-identifying “MO” Jews think this is a perversion of Torah.
I think you should be telling this to Katz, not to nishtdayngesheft.
Mods, apparently, someone has hacked into Sam2’s account.
No, ZD, we’ve been through this before. The origin of the famous tune for Maoz Tzur is a folk song.
000646, and zahavasdad, I don’t think anyone is advocating or thinks feasible a theocracy in Eretz Yisroel until Moshiach comes. If (maybe I should say when) the charedim will be the majority, if Moshiach hasn’t arrived, it will indeed be thorny. I think a frum government will have a
horrible dilemma: how can it not halachically make it illegal to violate the Torah, but OTOH how can it possibly enforce or even pass such a law without an extremely angry backlash with terrible repercussions?
I really hope Moshiach comes first.
Why do I feel like I’m caught in a fairy tale?
I agree with Wolf. That’s good advice for a chosson.
If the person asking was the kallah’s father, though, I would probably tell him to buy it.
Good luck with that, I don’t think any sleepaway camps pay JCs. Would you consider working in a day camp?