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I suppose that on Purim, you don’t need to drink to be mekayem “ad d’lo yada”, in fact, you are mekayem it year round.
I didn’t assume that this was a discussion about you personally, especially since you stopped labeling yourself.
Nothing difficult to understand, it just seemed that you presented R’ Blumenkrantz’ shittah as mattir as an antacid under all circumstances, and I’m not sure he meant it that way (although he might have).
About 2:20 both nights. What time did you finish?
Also, the fact that you’re intolerant of not only squeak, but of anyone like him, doesn’t make you more tolerant, it makes you less tolerant.
I’m intolerant of intolerance. that is not only referring to squeak. its referring to anyone who is intolerant.
Yourself included, I assume?
Do you include bein adam lachaveiro in your equivalency, or only bein adam lamakom?
Sam, of course there are stupid people in the world. What about the lady who tried to convince her friend not to accommodate her son who took on cholov Yisroel? Any better? But you can’t generalize from stories.
DaMoshe, I’m not sure of your point. Is there really a question that some communities tend to be more machmir, and some more meikil, and that the chumros often have solid basis?
“Only if necessary as an antacid” doesn’t sound like a blanket heter to me.
OK, but how do you decide whom to choose as your rav, and how does your rav decide whether to advise you to be machmir or meikil when both positions are legitimate?
Agav, it seems that R’ Blumenkrantz would only allow Tums if no other antacids were available.
Sam2, the Tzitz Eliezer (14-1) comes out against translating aggadita, not halacha.
We find plenty of examples where poskim say a lashon such as “ba’al nefesh yachmir”, or “hamachmir tavo alav b’rachah”. You tell me; does it make someone a “better Jew” if he acts in a manner which finds favor in the eyes of the poskim?
Or do you think the “better Jew” is one who seems to always take the easier way out, not in accordance with the way preferred by the poskim?
No, of course we cannot look down upon someone who keeps the ikkar hadin. But we can admire someone who spends more money, or effort, or shows more restraint, to keep a higher standard of halacha. And to equate all standards of halacha is a perversion of the Torah. It is simply not the attitude we find in the poskim.
DaMoshe, squeak: Your first point about chumros is something you should reconsider.
Quite ironically, the rest of your post demonstrates his point very nicely.
And please dont say one is defending the Torah. One who eats Gebracks or Chalav Stam is not doing an Averiah of any sort (We are talking about real kosher for example)
And right there is an example of what you claim is rare. Except that you picked odd examples; when was the last time you actually saw someone seriously calling eating gebrokts or cholov stam an aveirah?
Why are people from the more leftist view are always told to be more tolerant of those rightist views , but you rarely see people the other way around.
Really? Did you read this thread, for example?
Especially the nashim chasuvos.
OURtorah, why are you so intolerant of squeak? Instead of criticizing him, why don’t you try to help him, and draw him in? Just because he doesn’t serve Hashem the same way you do, doesn’t mean you should have a bad feeling in your heart for him.
Very good point, Sam.
I think that even though their main staple over the years of shibud was matza, they probably had bread also.
You think they didn’t ferment the dough because they didn’t have time to?
Isn’t that what it says in the passuk?
Thank you, HaLeiVi.
I would like to wish everyone a beautiful Yom Tov as well.
Thank you, and the same to you and yours.
And a special thanks to all of the underappreciated women who work so hard to make it all happen. Shkoyach!
Didn’t you once have one?
Yeshivaguy45, you are taking my point a bit too far.
I’m not necessarily taking sides for (or against) the hanhalah, although I agree that the effect a bochur is having in other bochurim’s behavior has to be taken into consideration.
My point is that you can’t prove causation based on two events occurring in a seeming relationship.
If there is any correlation, it might just as easily be that whatever caused these boys to violate yeshiva policy (without judging the advisability of said policy) caused the spiritual downfall.
Should there be a drinking and driving age?
Right here!
I know of the true following story
during Bein Hazamin a bunch of boys went to a game,Somehow the rebbe found out about it and when the new Zman started called them all into his office and expelled them from the yeshiva. at least 2 of them are no longer religious and dating non-jews.
Does that prove that going to baseball games causes people to go off the derech?
Bar Shattya’s back!
that’s backwards, kdai achilas pras is based on the size of the kzayis
It also has to do with how fast people eat, so I don’t know that it’s entirely backwards.
It’s still sad.
This makes me sad.
Sad for the mother who doesn’t have her baby on the weekend.
Sad for the father who doesn’t have his baby the rest of the week.
Mostly, sad for the baby who will grow up switching back and forth between her mother and father.
He was probably trying to be mekarev him.
There are pizza shops in places besides Brooklyn in which you can “mach heimish”, you know.
Popa, what should I have for supper?
If you didn’t want to start a rift, you should have left the term “Modern Orthodox” out of it. It could have been asked as a general question. I know plenty of people who would probably be identified as Modern Orthodox who are makpid on these areas of halacha.
Not covering hair is clearly problematic mid’Oraisa, although I think some try to rationalize it by saying it stops being an ervah when it becomes normal in society for women to keep their hair uncovered. The Aruch Hashulchan says this regarding saying Krias Shema, but doesn’t seem to hold that it applies to the actualy uncovering of the hair.
Although most contemporary poskim do seem to asser pants, I don’t know of earlier sources to prohibit. Maybe some never accepted it as assur. Before asking for a source that it’s muttar, do you know the sources that it’s assur?
She was crying for him, or because she was insulted?
There are far, far too many people who think those who eat Gebrochts aren’t frum. It’s sad and frustrating.
You know something? I eat gebrokts, and if someone would think it makes me not frum, I think I would find it more humorous than anything else. Maybe a little sad as well.
I think it is possibly more sad that people are so sensitive to others’ chumros. If you really think that what you’re doing is 100% fine, why would you care what other people do or think?
Correct. If it does not have the tzurah of bread, it would be a mezonos even if you are kovea seudah in it.
HaLeiVi, I am addressing one specific point:
A problem with this viewpoint is that there are minimal sources for downgrading a pastry manufactured from a viscous dough based on its appearance.
I don’t know why one would be mechalek between something which once had the appearance of bread, and something which never did, and since we all know the sources for something losing its toar lechem, there’s no good reason to think that there can’t be something, even blilah avah, which never had it.
Of course, one could argue that wraps do have it, and I don’t really have a strong opinion on that.
That which he writes, “While the precise definition of this term is very elusive, it seems that it is a prerequisite to be considered a bread product”, as well as, “to say that a wrap has crossed the invisible line that divides them is a judgment call”, are, IMO, on the mark.
I’ve heard the same. I thought it originated as a Sholem Aleichem story.
Yeshivaguy45, he says the first to apply the issue of toar lechem to blilah avah was the Aruch Hashulchan. I am contending that this is not the case.
Hello99, popa, etc.,
Why is it a shailah if there’s an issue of ??? ??? on a ????? ???? We say ?????? on matzah brie and kneidlach, although it was a ????? ???. Having been baked without a ??? ??? could only be worse.
Also, the ??”? states that ?????”? and ??????”? have ??? ???; they are ?????? ???. Obviously, some ????? ??? items don’t have ??? ???, or else he should not have had to specify.
Aleichem Shalom to you, midwesterner. 🙂
Mods, how did you let that post through? VM is giving away personal information!
I decided to get a new brain for Pesach. Then I changed my mind.
Anyhow, why would you need to check houseplants for bugs?
How do mandlin get rid of the bugs?
Give her a bigger allowance, so she can afford to buy B’gan (formerly Eden).
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/frozen-broccoli-and-halacha-insects#post-152203
Wolf, my apologies. I recommended the Artscroll app before your post was up.
Make sure you get the one without e-ink. Better yet, get the Artscroll app.
It is found in the Rishonim, and it is not the derech to question sevaros found in the Rishonim. It certainly is hard to understand how he would question the Rema for going with the Bais Yosef/ Kol Bo and Tosafos.
Are you saying that any family that eats g’brochts on Pesach must have problems?
Or am I misunderstanding you?
No, yes. C’mon, Wolf, you know I have more seichel than that.
I am responding to chachem’s assertion that keeping (i.e. refraining from) gebrokts causes strife and shalom bayis problems. I am asserting that any family which can’t peacefully navigate the “difficulty” of having to avoid matzo meal products and dunking their matzo into coffee is dysfunctional to begin with.