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I don’t think Amazon’s price is usually less than typical wholesale, although I certainly don’t know for sure.
Many (most?) items are from third party sellers, so it depends on the buying power of those sellers. I have found the prices of Amazon’s own goods to be better priced than anywhere else, including the same items on Amazon from third party sellers.
Daas Yochid, it is important for you and the Israeli Chareidim to get back to Earth from their la-la land. They are not some independant entity that has it’s own economy and army. What if the frei stop the money-flow? They could be in for a rude awakening.
Klal Yisroel as a whole, and toshvei E.Y. bifrat, are in for a rude awakening if ch”v the support of Torah is halted.
Don’t forget, this entire situation which we find ourselves in was caused by secular Jews who wanted to redefine Yiddishkeit to exclude Torah. Lapid’s speech was very clear on this point. Why should the Torah faithful community have to bear the brunt of their error?
Y me,
This is a horrible argument!
Then you should have refuted it. You only refuted the mashal, with the assumption that the z’chus of supporting Torah only works for those who do so willingly. The Brisker Rov is more equipped to to know whether this is true than you are. I hadn’t heard this story with the Divrei Yoel and the Rov, but I had heard the same sentiment from R. Chaim Brim, ZT”L. As far as it being gezel, that’s pure sheker, it’s perfectly legal.
On a 2nd note, you make the common and untrue assumption that the chareidim are the exclusive group of Jews learning Torah in E’Y. Not only is that not true, it’s a hauty remark that also only drives true chilonim away from yiddishkeit.
OP never said that the learning of non chareidim isn’t a z’chus. You made that up just to condescendingly call the OP haughty.
Mdd, I’m surprised that you even approved of the first two hate – filled paragraphs. You argument (which I disagree with – the gemara in Yevamos is not a raya bichlal) was tat it’s a chilul Hashem because they don’t understand. You never argued (at least I didn’t notice) that it’s gezel and is not a z’chus. Please reconsider.
GAW, there’s a lot of room between the loafers and R’ Yitzchok Elchonon. One doesn’t have to be a R’ Yitzchok Elchonon for his Torah to be a z’chus for klal Yisroel. The loafers will indeed have to give din v’cheshbon, but their inability to be otherwise productive is because of the medina’s rules which aren’t designed to accommodate them.
Benignuman,
When an entire class of people (based on origin and motivation, in this case) do not keep mitzvos, it is a fair assumption that the geirus was a sham to begin with. Objectively insincere, to use your terminology. R’ Moshe was not discussing this scenario, he was making a general rule (probably to apply to a specific case), but not saying an absolute.
The shopkeeper also doesn’t know right away if the customer is being truthful, unless she actually showed her the amazon price.
They probably do know. As long as the Amazon price is a bit more than wholesale, it;s probably true.
As a seller on Amazon, you are welcome to purchase from me
If you had products which I intended to purchase, I certainly would, if I knew which items were yours. I would prefer to buy from a Shomer Shabbos.
Of course it’s not up for debate. The Torah world will never allow the secular government to determine who gets to stay in the beis midrash and who doesn’t.
It was wrong of her to yell at you. Her frustration is based on the fact that Amazon works on a very tight margin, and they have tremendous buying power (on their own items – there are several different selling arrangements on the site). It is impossible for the local stores to compete.
So you have time to call… let us know…
Sam4321, Yitayningwut, (or anyone else)
Any ideas to answer my question on the Aruch Hashulchan?
I personally don’t do it. The rov in the shul in which I grew up always made a point to publicly fold his talis on Motzaei Shabbos.
ZeesKite,
I agree, which is why my example was one in which the frustration was caused by my own negligence.
I agree that we’re not dayanim. That having been said, I think that sound advice includes considering the fact that the other party perceives the situation differently.
Y123,
Of course you don’t agree with everything he’s ever said, but my point was that this speech is phony.
Please don’t tell me what I can or cannot debate. I have my own experiences to draw from. Your experience cannot define the whole issue. That would be quite narrow.
My argument was never against nachal charedi for those who are wasting their time.
Write or wrong, smc made a great point. Often before someone can come back, they need to mature and become responsible. After they feel accomplished, they’re ready to do that. Keep davening, and keep showing your love.
Purplicious,
If you left him your phone # to call you, you don’t need to worry, but write or wrong didn’t know that. I hope you’re not upset at write or wrong, she’s just looking out for your safety.
Your friend really knows that you care, and that that’s why you spoke to the principal, but sometimes, as a defense mechanism, people get upset at those who want to help. Hopefully your friend will completely get over it, and appreciate that she has friends who really care.
MorahRach, I don’t want to give a whole mussar shmooze, but please be focused and careful when driving.
Thanks, fitt.
I thought that since it takes less time for a boy to get ready for the chasunah, they get married first, and that we’ve finally discovered the real reason for the shidduch crisis. 😉
Talmud, I hope not. I thought it was about frustrating things that could only happen to Jewish people.
Buying something with an OU and noticing, only after opening the package, that it’s OU-D (makpid on CY, obviously).
Purplicious,
Write or wrong did not say anything negative about Rabbi Goldwasser. You hadn’t mentioned that you left a message for him with your phone number, so she thought it may have been someone pretending to be Rabbi Goldwasser, and that faker would probably be a dangerous person.
There is definitely too much personal info being given out here, so it’s a valid concern. Everyone please be careful – don’t mention your age, grade, where you live, where your school is, etc. Also, don’t use a screen name which can be searched to find you identity (e.g. if I posted elsewhere using the name DaasYochid and let out personal info there, someone could search my sn and identify me).
Bear, are you referring to Shyne? According to what I’ve read, he’s Jewish from birth, and it must have been a giyur l’chumra.
What a tzaddik! Not too many people are on that madreigah to only eat l’shem shomayim, to have strength for avodas Hashem. Most of us eat ’cause we’re hungry.
For those who can’t lok up the Aruch Hashulchan, he explains that there are two reasons brought in the Rishonim:
1) Tikun
2) Hachonoh
He says that in our times, many do fold their talisos, because they hold only of the issue of tikun, and the folding of our talisos does not involve a tikun.
He brings support from the KolBo, who defends the practice of folding clothing, because we are no longer very makpid on wrinkles, as was once the case.
Thank you, Sam 4321. I don’t understand how the AH”S says that the SH”A holds that the reason is only tikkun. The SH”A clearly distinguishes between a case where the tallis will be worn on Shabbos, and one in which it won’t be worn until after Shabbos. He definitely seems to hold of both reasons.
I was engaged for 2 months. But that’s just me.
Not your wife?
WIY,
Typically, engagements in yeshivish circles are 2 1/2 – 3 1/2 months – they should be as short as possible to leave time to prepare for the chasunah.
Rebdoniel, you didn’t answer my question about the Kusim. Do you have an answer?
This is not he Halacha, otherwise, a woman could go into a Jewerly store, buy a necklace from a saleswoman.
You’re right, not because a woman doesn’t need reshus, but because the store owner can claim “hamotzi mechavero alav haraya”.
I would guess that the Rabbanut is suspicious in some cases but not in others.
When you visit your rosh yeshiva or Rebbe for a brocha, does he charge you or you give a donation?
Doesn’t he get a salary (although I suppose it’s supposed to be s’char batala).
Can a doctor charge?
Besides, this is entertainment. 🙂
Colsult your compatent local rabbi.
I guess you should consult the Mishna Berurah first. 🙂
I think it is a kvisah problem; not a hachana problem. Look in a shmiras shabbos k’hilchasa; I’m sure you’ll find the sources.
15-45. He says it’s both (Not really k’visah; nireh kim’saken).
The source is S.A. O.C. 302-3. He says it is muttar to fold clothing on Shabbos l’tzorech Shabbos l’lovshom bo bayom (only for that day).
M.B. clearly implies that the reason is because it looks like m’saken mana (sp?), based on Rashi, bd”h bishnei, yeshonim, and tz’vuin (first three Rashis on the second Mishnah), Shabbos 113a.
I would say minimum 22 years for a boy, 19 years for a girl. Four months is too young.
You cannot prove intention. Rabbis or anyone for that matter cannot read minds. Mind-reading is not part of Torah.
Then why were the conversions of the Kusim questioned by Chaza”l? Do you think the mikvaos were questionable?
Yserbius123,
You and Yair Lapid must be a talmidim of Obama. He thinks he knows better what’s in Israel’s best interest than do the Israelis, and you thinkyou know what’s best for charedim. No thanks, we’ll stick to the opinion of R’ Aron Leib, not yours and Lapid’s.
If Lapid was so interested in accommodating the charedim, he wouldn’t insist that females join the army or S.L.
Rd,
Nobody ever annulled a conversion. Conversions were declared passul, from their outset. Kabbolas mitzvos is part of geirus. If someone didn’t accept to keep the Torah, milah and tevilah become empty acts.
Rd,
They are believed to be truthful, but if we know that the geirus is questionable halachically, that doesn’t help.
OK, I Googled it, but it’s all Chinese to me. I must say, though, the picture is surprisingly accurate. 😉
OOM,
Since I am probably the only person in the entire universe who hasn’t read Harry Potter, who is Kingsley Shacklebolt?
From what your describing, he should be institutionalized.
His conversation with your parents, as you described it, means he forgot what you did, not that you did nothing.
Was there something you did on a different occasion which made him upset?
Oh, I thought the schools finished with midwinter break.
Is this person a scam artist feeding off those that are desperate?
Probably.
I personally believe if hashem gave you a gift, you should share it with klal yisroel, free of charge.
That’s ridiculous. Everything we have is a gift from Hashem; is a person not entitled to make a living? Even if you mean special talent, should MBD not charge for his CDs and concert appearances?
Should an artist give away paintings for free?
I know you’re point. I find it highly unlikely that someone, even if he would be a kapdan and kaasan, would throw out a completely innocent student and then bash her. He obviously, at the time, thought you did something wrong.
Posting from school? Sick at home? Different time zone?
I have a feeling that this might be the root of his anger. Obviously, he didn’t randomly throw you out and bash you. He thought you did something. You don’t think you did anything wrong, so even your apologies were undoubtedly insincere; how could they not be, if you don’t think you did anything wrong! So you’re in another tough situation, even worse than the $50.
Good luck getting through them.
Yes, they could have a master key, but the fact that that they don’t doesn’t make them responsible.
Sure, if you don’t care about marrying someone who’s Jewish.
One thing I can’t understand. Why would he go ballistic for a month if you did absolutely nothing wrong? Is there part of the story you’re not telling us?
I don’t think anyone mentioned is one of our heroes.
The shadchan often stays involved until the end. Often, “dropping the shadchan” only means that the boy asks her for another date on his own, but the shadchan still works to try to keep things smooth.