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Artchill,
Interesting sevara, although it sounds a bit far fetched to me to say that the school is implicitly taking responsibility. Even if it were true, I could hear it for textbooks, which belong in a locker, but not for money.
Supreme, you can ask for the name of the Rabbi you are speaking to (“May I please ask with whom I am speaking”). Also, keep in mind that the answer you receive is relevant to you alone, since the other parties are not there.
Daniela, the first step is her monetary obligation. If she is not obligated, she must consider whether it’s worth upsetting her friends, or pay anyhow. You are 100% right, though, that she needs someone to speak to, especially based on the other thread.
Because it wasn’t yours, you were obligated to watch it properly, and in my opinion, you didn’t. You really should be asking a shailah, though, and not listening either to what I say or to what your emotions say.
Act calmly, and turn on the GPS.
Veltz Meshugener
Member
i x undrstd da pt. Y wud u do it?
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popa_bar_abba
Incorrigible; semi-retarded; eccentric; perhaps a woman; not Mod 80. Sometimes only a bit over the top.
I x undrstnd ths. Try rting it in txt
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http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/then-perhaps-a-small-explosion#post-434484
Takahmamash,
I believe akuperma is referring to the fact that kol b’isha ERVAH.
However, the questions are generally legitimate, and deserve answers.
Not if they are asked lekanter.
Of course – default Judaism. Of course we were wearing shtraamele and bekeshe at Maamad Har Sinai.
Sure, if you define things superficially, you’ll find very significant differences.
Of course, there was no one in the field to leave leket and peah which are mitzvos deoraiso because everyone was in beis medresh learning.
Now you’re talking about a difference of substance. However, this is a new adaptation, well after the Chasam Sofer, so his point is muddled, at best. This is an adaptation to emerging realities (not the least of which is the army/work issue), and if anything, undermines his point that, according to charedim, “chodosh assur min haTorah” is an absolute dogma.
He is more interested in effective solutions to what he sees as problems than he is in simply making public mockery like his father did. That makes him more dangerous to the status quo than his father ever was.
He does claim so. It’s also very possible that his motivation in taking a less confrontational stance is to be more effective than his father, but that he shares the same goal.
DaasYochid I am not sure how a rav can possibly determine,…
If the rav thinks there are relevant questions to ask, he will. Most rabbonim are not, in fact, experts in Choshen Mishpat, which is why these hotlines, under the auspices of well known and respected poskim, are so valuable. Obviously, these poskim (Rabbis Kohn and Forst) feel that there are situations in which one may ask a shailah anonymously, otherwise they wouldn’t allow it.
the OP used the lockers as they’re supposed to be used
To keep cash? Doubtful. At the most, it would make the school (if such an entity can be held responsible) a gorem (indirect causer) and not chayav in beis din. And I don’t think it would even be a grama.
Instead they are claiming the OP is responsible for the loss, and so it seems to me it’s necessary to listen to what they have to say.
Indeed, ask a shailah and don’t rely on anonymous posters.
NP! 🙂
Many compare Yeshiva to University students (for whatever reason)
Therein lies the fallacy. You admit that you don’t really know why there should be a comparison between university and yeshiva. The answer, of course, is that there isn’t. The rest of your idea therefore completely falls apart.
Thank you, t613t. I think yitzchokm read one of my posts out of context.
HaleiVi,
He wouldn’t have said “it is just said over by the Hamon Am”, unless he knew that it wasn’t found anywhere. He could only know that if he knew all legitimate sources. Since as you say, he doesn’t, he probably didn’t say it. The only alternative I can think of is that he has somewhere in Chaza”l where it is implied that it’s not true, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.
Isn’t that what the Hagada tells us to do? OTOH all the divrei Torah excuse it away somehow.
Think about what mdd said.
I submit that Veltz Meshugener is an altar ego of Popa. Or a blood relative.
Or a descriptive term. 😉
“Rambam eruv,”
I assume he means omed m’rubah al haporutz – more closed (wall) than open boundary.
Is it true that Emunah is “just an excuse”?
Yes. Hashem created us as ma’aminim by default. Something must go wrong for someone to become a kofer.
I don’t mean that there can’t be legitimate questions, but an emotionally healthy person has a very different approach to the answers.
Haredim on welfare, lack of education and employment in their sector is an economic strain on the Israeli taxpayer.
That would be eased a great deal if they were allowed to work.
From his website:
He…believes that nothing short of a revolution in the rabbinate will restore the authentic Jewish approach of loving one another
Sorry, you can’t expect to accuse charedim of lacking in ahavas Yisrael and be treated with respect.
Oomis,
A rebbie is committing an assault if he hits a child (UNLESS he is actually defending himself FROM an assault by that student, chas v’sholom). If he hits that child, he is legally liable, and can be arrested.
Do you define things as secular law does, or as the Torah does? If CH”V bris milah would be banned, would you say, “A mohel is committing assault if he circumcises a child. He is legally liable, and can be arrested, and the parents as well, for allowing such a barbaric act to be done to their child.”?
The reason it is no longer acceptable to hit a child is because it doesn’t usually achieve the desired result, as a consequence, as mdd says, of yeridas hadoros. It’s not because it’s inherently wrong.
Mdd, I think we’re in agreement, at least for the most part.
KZ,
🙂
Hg,
Are you calling my art “doggerel”? 🙂
Daniela, where do get the idea that a rav can’t answer shaila without knowing the identity of the shoel ‘s rav?
Superme, here’s the number for a reliable monetary halacha hotline: 877-845-8455. Or, you can call 516-239-2500, and press the extension for monetary questions.
ZD,
Who decides who’s “weaker”?
Also, if charedim who don’t learn all join the ICF (Israeli Culinary Force), there will still be tremendous resentment that the charedim don’t “share the burden” in allowing their sons to put their lives at risk.
Also, there will be too much food left over. Bal Tashchis, you know. 😉
Morahmom, do you mean that in our generation it is never good, or that it never was good, in any generation?
Superme, a request. Can you please proofread your posts before hitting “send post”? I’m having trouble reading t-9’s editing. Thanks.
Emunah issues don’t usually cause otd. Emotional trauma does, and the emunah questions are a defense mechanism.
The main reason, is that it is not acting like an adult to not be honest and forthright with another person.
Be careful with that. Mutar l’shanos mipnei hashalom. You certainly wouldn’t expect someone to be honest and forthright if they didn’t want to continue dating because one found the other unattractive.
The most important thing to take into consideration is the other person’s feelings, which is actually a very good reason to use a shadchan.
ICOT,
I had a screwdriver,
so I’m a bit wired,
although from poetry,
I had retired.
Yitzchokm,
?
If anyone could make such a statement today, it would be R’ Chaim, but apparently, there was some type of miscommunication.
Mdd, they still don’t have to walk on eggshells, and can still be in charge. This doesn’t cause OTD. Most OTD, from what I understand, is caused by abuse. Normal discipline is not abuse.
I wasn’t sure what she meant; it sounded like he admitted to the parents that he was stuck, but I guess that’s not what she meant .
I opened this thread,
with nothing to lose,
and found ICOT’s masterpiece,
about popa’s booze.
That stuff was something,
must have been potent,
to go and explode
without help from a rodent.
The moral of the story,
is to not be obtuse,
and use proper caution,
with fermented juice.
Who’s stuck, you or him?
Mdd, for example?
I was thinking the same way, for instance, about hitting. I decided against it though, because I think that one of the reasons the dor is not holding by it is because the motivation isn’t pure, it’s too often out of anger. If it is done out of love, it won’t cause OTD.
What do you say?
RP,
1) I think on the internet.
2) see #1
3) No, they officially believe in bein adam laMakom.
4) The satan.
Why that one and not the rest of the bottles?
He said it was the last one.
Popa, did you say birchas hagomel?
Grow a beard or shave, but be well-groomed, no matter what derech you choose for your facial hair.
Does that mean that someone with a few days’ stubble is off the derech? 😉
There’s a minhag to drink vodka on M”S?
1) teaches all over so he’s very busy
Try to make an appointment.
2) he doesn’t either know the whole story
I assume that when you speak to him, you will tell him.
I guess it depends on how much good it does compared to the bad. In my opinion, though, if they were good, they wouldn’t cause people to go off.
RD,
R’ Amsalem cares dramatically about Am Yisrael. You will suffer from defaming this gadol.
Do you have any better ideas for dealing with the problems caused by the Haredim?
I find it sadly ironic that in one sentence, you complain about defaming a gadol, and in the next, defame an entire segment of klal Yisroel, including their gedolim.
There is no source anywhere whatsoever for the popular idea that L’asid Lavo we Pasken by Beis Shammai.
I think it takes a R’ Moshe Feinstein (at least) to make such a statement.
You’re kidding, right?
If I understood the question properly, you knew that things have been stolen from lockers, yet kept the money there anyhow. That seems very irresponsible to me. Probably, al pi halachah, you would be responsible even if that wasn’t the case, since you left it in an unlocked place.
So, the way I see it, you have to find a way to earn $50 to pay back. Do you babysit? Do you have Chanukah gelt or other money?
You might want to ask a shailah if you are indeed obligated, but keep in mind that your friends probably wouldn’t be too thrilled if you don’t make good, even if technically you didn’t have to.
As far as the grammar and spelling, please keep in mind that sometimes not proofreading your posts can make parts of them incomprehensible.
there was another rav if the room at that time. That rav didn’t know wat to say he was shocked!!
Maybe speak to that other rav.
What did I throw back in anyone’s face?
Luckily, not the diaper. (I don’t think you offended anyone.)
it doesnt matter who was right or wrong because you are never going to see this person again
It matters for next time. It seems that the lesson was learned, b”H.
hey be thankful your husband actually changes diapers! i hope others were watching and taking note! 🙂
Yes 🙁
🙂 (Don’t worry, I do change diapers.)
T613t,
If I knew the answer, I would have posted. 🙂
Talmud, I don’t remember which ones you mentioned; I don’t think I recognized them.
Here are links to other threads on the topic.
etc.
I think there’s a difference between types of music. Inherently, some types of music are harmful, and some types are inspiring. I think this is true for much of what goes by the name “Jewish” music as well, even songs composed by frum people.
This question, regarding Miriam, was just brought up. I don’t remember who said it, but one answer was that the drums overpowered the voices, which couldn’t be heard.