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The very first teshuva in the (new) 9th chelek of Igros Moshe strongly encourages keeping the MG”A’s zman for krias Shma.
Or they feel that the Shittah of the Magen Avraham was completely Nidcheh by the GR”A
It wasn’t.
The Diyuk is Not a Diyuk -so you can’t push that Pshat in the Rema.
Do you care to explain why you don’t think it’s a diyuk (which, as I explained, is the simple p’shat, in context)?
Let’s see…
No, it is not abstract.
no mechanical/electronic components
Yes, it’s used for recreational purposes.
You use it as a tool to accomplish a task
No, it is not only found in America
No, it is not used by an average person everyday. And I’m gonna give a bit away, but some people never use it.
It’s a brain!
Why isn’t the hamon am machmir like the magen avraham if you said shma by that zman wouldn’t you be yotzei l’chol hadeios.
Because the hamon am isn’t necessarily more makpid on being yotzei l’chol hadeios than they are on a few more minutes of sleep.
MSS,
I know they had one a couple of years ago (Agudah sponsored singles event with shadchanim on the spot to follow through on any promising leads), but I don’t know if it was repeated or if there are any plans to do so.
I think we’re in a Sakana matzav already and only Gedolim can advise, perhaps by organizing and providing the “Who What When and Where” for older singles to meet on their own, or semi supervised, with the same interest and commitment as when planning Siumei Shas. It can be done.
And has been done.
Why aren’t people makpid on the zman of the magen avraham for sof zman krias shma? (I for one am)
You’re far from the only one.
BPM,
Mod 80 was not just a moderator, he was (and is) a very beloved poster, and I think he should keep his identity (such as one of the retired moderators (72) does, with “retired moderator” as a subtitle).
Hello99,
If you think the R’ma would be mattir bishul b’makom tzoreh gadol, now that I’ve shown you that mei’ikar hadin R’ Moshe holds like the R’ma, you should admit that Health was right that, at least according to R’ Moshe, one can tell an aku”m to cook a cholent for you (barring bishul aku”m) if you don’t have another hot food. I think you know that that’s not true.
I should point out that my diyuk is not merely from the ?, the entire context would indicate that there’s no other hot food; the reason they would move the food is because, not having gas or electric as we do, the oven often had cooled by the time the Shabbos meal would start. They didn’t have an oven, a hot plate, and a crockpot; at most they probably had a cooking oven and a heating oven.
The Biur Halacha doesn’t stop at the words “tzorech Shabbos”, he also says “v’ain lo eitzah acheres”.
That’s a pretty weak Diyuk to create a Stira in the Rema.
I’m not saying it’s a stirah, I’m saying the R’ma would not be mattir bishul al y’dei aku”m, even l’tzorach gadol.
Exactly, it’s says pots.
No, it says the pots (??????).
You haven’t responded to the Biur Halacha, which is specifically referring to a case of tzorech gadol.
If they are older, then at least someone knows about them.
Couldn’t the same thing be said about younger girls as well?
147,
some fabricated Chumro
Although it’s true that there is a kasya on applying Rabbeinu Tam’s opinion ti certain lattitudes (the G’ra asks it), there were many poskim who did so. In Europe (and even for a short time in the US), some communities kept Rabbeinu Tam even as a kula.
You should refrain from posting your guesses as fact. This is not the first time that you have “fabricated” halachos based on your sevaros, as appealing as they may be.
daasyochid…I was refering to missing Yom Tov candlelighting bec. one fell asleep(not feeling well)and woke up the next morning realizing they forgot to light Yom Tov licht.
I don’t mean that it can’t happen. I mean since it’s unusual, there was no knas instituted.
This is actually, IIRC, a machlokes, in which l’maaseh we are meikil because it’a a safek k’nas.
Ommis,
I wonder why I have not heard any Gadol saying that the s’char mitzvah of making a shidduch for an older single (girl OR guy) would be greater in Olam Haba than for those easier to make younger shidduchim (lifum tz’arah agrah).
From the letter signed by 70 R”Y:
“In addition, shadchanim should work primarily for girls who are age twenty and above. Shadchanim who go further and assist older girls will merit ??? ???? ?? ?????.”
AZ posted the entire letter here:
If you've read "NASI Project Responds", have you changed your mind?
As far as why the girls more than the guys, that is pretty clearly addressed in the letter.
In the case you brought -the guy just wants to warm up Stam a pot
RM”A says the pots which very much sounds like that’s their Shabbos food (certainly their only hot food, which is considered a tzorech gadol).
The Biur Halacha (probably the one you were referring to) is explicitly only mattir (and hesitates to do so) where there’s no eitzah, and only because there’s a shittah that ein bishul achar bishul even applies to a davar lach. Clearly, where there is definite bishul, it is assur even al yedei aku”m.
Oomis, you should be zocheh to marry off your single kids this year!
let s all agree on one thing..Throwing money at this problem will not solve it.
I’ll agree when and if it fails. Until then, I’d give it a try.
why dont we open a forum right here on YWN as anonymous as possible, and make shidduchim.
Anonymous shidduchim don’t work. The boy and girl have to meet.
Anyhow, the premise is wrong. If the problem were merely too many older singles, more shadchanim would be the proper solution. Since there’s a disparity, though, with more older girls than boys, the proper solution would have to address that.
If it is in the Gemarah, it is Talmud Torah.
That’s what I told my 6th grade rebbe when he caught me with a Batman comic inside my Bava Metziah. He didn’t buy it.
The case you brought down isn’t talking about Tzorech Godol, like in my case.
Your pots of food got cold = ???? ????.
It is amazing to me that anyone has a problem understanding how the older girls must negatively feel as a result of this initiative.
Who says anyone doesn’t understand? Maybe it’s worth the attempt for the long term goal of having more of them get married!
Apy,
What, then did you mean when you wrote, “what would change public thinking, perception and action, would be, the Rabbeim and Rabbonim who sign onto and endorse such initiatives, sign up their own family members and encourage their own mispallilim to do the same”?
Why would they need to have people they are personally involved with sign up to “change public…perception”?
He actually writes “???? ??????”. It seems, though, that ????? ???? he actually holds like the ??”?. See ??”? ??”? ?’ ? ???? ?”?.
However, in our case, it would clearly be ????, as per the ??”? in ??”? ???? ? and ?”? ?? ?”? ?”?.
??? ?????? ????? ????? ?????? ??? ???? ???? ????? ????? ????? ??? ???? ???? ????? ????? ???? ?????? ?? ????? ??? ??? ?? ???? ?????
R’ Moshe ZTL was supposed to have argued with Rishonim in Igros
Even when he argues with acharonim, he will point out that a particular acharon has a different opinion which should be considered.
I don’t think he ever directly argues on rishonim, but he will sometimes explain their words differently than one would normally understand at first glance.
Even when he argues with acharonim, he can point out that a particular acharon has a different opinion which should be considered.
I don’t think he ever directly argues on rishonim, but he will sometimes explain their words differently than one would normally understand at first glance.
Babygoose,
i heard in a shiur by a renowned darshan that the bashert is only destined for the girls.
Tosafos says the opposite.
maybe this explains the gap bet. amount of boys and girls. YES, some boys were created for being bachlors!
There are more unmarried “older” females than males, which would actually fit into the idea that the bas kol was said about the males. In truth, however, it’s possible that few really marry according to the bas kol nowadays.
i am bombmaniac and bombmaniac is me 😀 who else would post such long winded nonsense? 😀
Not everyone thinks it’s nonsense. 😉
Bombmaniac is around.
Health,
Is it in Be’er Moshe? I don’t have Piskei Hilchos Shabbos.
AYC,
Your wonderful posts are missed by many. Your return would be a cause for celebration!
*DaasYochid*
Oh, now I understand – YouTube is filtered out. I’ll try to call. Thanks.
The shows will be available on the web
When? How?
You guys might find this interesting.
Only if I could actually listen to it!
Hello99,
So I figured, but your post was unclear. Thanks for the clarification.
Health,
You can’t extrapolate oneg Shabbos (cholent) from kavod habrios.
1)when you have a situation where you have 3 poskim to choose from- can I choose the rav that will give me the psak I want to get i.e. maykal ?
I certainly don’t think that’s what the RS”O wants us to do.
2)if I cannot get a rav now (Im on vacation, or it’s midnight, or the rav doesn’t answer his phone etc) can i rely on a heter in a situation where i know it is a machlokes?
I’m going to evade your question now – get a hold of the number for an emergency halacha hotline.
When that’s not possible, I would think that it depends on the circumstance; if nobody would be effected negatively by being machmir, I would think that would be the way to go, and then ask when you get a chance so you’ll know for the future. Otherwise, it’s a real tough call and not really an answerable question.
welcome back 80; we miss you. Even when you post as feivel it doesn’t have the same ooomph
Or the same regularity 🙁 – the CR was better off with your constant input.
WIY,
Google “eat like a horse”.
Good, smart, fine, accomplished older girls having to put out big big big bucks to get Shadchanim’s attention, is humiliating to the older girls.
Is it more humiliating to put out money and get attention, or to not put out money but not get attention?
How do we listen to it on the web?
honestly I am hanging on by a thread.
Just curious, which thread is that? 🙂
Why have I never seen an overweight horse?
The reason some people are obese is because although they should eat like a person, they eat like a horse. This is not a problem for a horse.
So there is a solid year age difference right there. The bas kol seems OK with it, too bad for AZ
AZ can confirm or deny, but I think he’d be ok with a one year difference.
BTW, I don’t follow your cheshbon – where do you get a year?
Have you tried Norton Cold and Flu 2012?
+1
DaaasYochid, obviously “??? ???” means something which an intellectually honest person knows he cannot answer. I presume that you do not phone your rav when you wake up in the morning and ask if you should do netilat yadayim.
Agreed. That’s actually the type of thing I meant in my original post, but I retracted because that’s not a “psak”.
It’s interesting that in the case brought in B’er Moshe, the shoel’s friend thought it wasn’t even a shaila! The Debriciner was warning people to be intellectually honest, and that anything which is not clear cut should be asked. Netilas yadayim is clear cut (now, whether or not the water needs to literally be within 4 amos is not as clear cut).
When the generator broke in my son’s Yeshiva, HaRav Shteinman ruled that bathroom and stairwell lights are Pikuach Nefesh.
He allowed a Yid to turn them on? And if so, would he also allow it in a private home? Or (much more likely) perhaps a dormitory setting is different, so if the Debriciner was mattir in the home, there would have to be a different reason. I haven’t seen the teshuva, but if he was mattir, it may have been in a situation where there were small children, who have a din of choleh, so amira l’akum would be permitted.
1) Tos. says the bas kol is for the zachor.
2) Bas ploni doesn’t identify the girl, just her father.
3) Some rishonim say that zivug rishon/zivug sheini doesn’t mean first marriage/second marriage, so many people might not be marrying their zivug rishon, and therefore not the person mentioned in the bas kol.
The bottom line is as apy says; do normal hishtadlus but have bitachon in Hashem.
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Make a shidduch for a 30 year old young woman who’s name is on the new NASI list.
If there is a cantillation that is a stop (like etnachta, revii, zakaif katone, pashta, etc) on the word that ends with Havara Petucha, then that cantillation stops the effect of the Havara Petucha.
Which is an explanation of why we generally sat “borei p’ri hagafen” although “borei” is havara pesuchah (ends with aleph) – apparently, tere’s supposed to be a pause between “borei” and “p’ri” (some do actually sat “f’ri”).
(I got my information from dailyhalacha.com, I’m no dikduk expert).