Ben Levi- I actually said it’s NOT like he’s a murderer or rapist.. My point was that he may have made choices you don’t agree with, but no one can say he’s a horrible person.

Sorry torah613- I didn’t read all the posts!

Mdd- I meant that he can be a completely moral person even though he is no longer religious. I did not mean to imply that it’s nothing. But I’m just saying, you can never judge a person who has gone otd. Sometimes there’s a choice between mental health and religion. Sometimes religion has to lose.

Sorry squeak, I don’t see how I missed his point.

I was gonna keep quiet on this thread but since no one is defending papa, I will. Notice, he never said that every child is off the derech because of their parents. He just said it is not a surprise that a child is otd if he must be afraid his parents will no longer love him upon knowing he is otd. A parents job is to show unconditional love. NO MATTER WHAT! And hey, we’re not talking about a murderer or rapist. Just a guy who for whatever reason decided yiddishkeit isn’t for him. If he is afraid that his parents will be very upset with him, he must not have been shown unconditional love. It is therefore no surprise that he is otd. It is very, very common for people who have had a difficult childhood to go off the derech.

I think it depends on the maturity of the kid. My father has told me that when I’m in his house I need to do certain things. As much as I’d like to do what I feel, I know that my parents are giving me a house, food, pay tuition, pay for clothes, etc. I can’t take everything and then not follow any of their rules. It’s just not nice. And definitely a lack of Hakaras hatov.

Thanks 🙂

This is one that I really like, very personal!

She sits in the dark

Alone

Huddled

Curling herself

Into a small space.

Music on

Loud and beating

Her heart pounding

To the same rhythm.

And her pain

For just a few moments

Is dulled

She cannot feel it

Because the music drowns it out.

And then

She must leave her space

Re-enter the real world

Her pain comes rushing back

With full force.

She trembles

And braces herself

To face the world.

Dead eyes are when someone has a kind of empty look to their eyes. It’s usually the way you can tell if someone is depressed. If you find yourself having very little interest in the things you normally enjoy and just having very little patience for everything and everyone then I would advise you to find a good therapist who can help you out.

I was very much against gay marriage until recently. I heard a speech on Ted, I believe the speaker is Andrew Solomon. I think it is something everyone should listen to!

I’m afraid I have to disagree with you, Slichos. Everyone is affected by negative and hurtful comments. It is absolutely unacceptable to hurt another person. And you have no idea what the horrible effects of bullying are.

How about “my sister, she…” Also makes me nuts!

Haifagirl- if I want to say “everyone has to know themself” is themself one or two words? I always thought it was one but autocorrect changes it to two. Thanks!

It’s supposed to be a really great yeshiva. Not necessarily for a typical yeshivish boy but a lot of really good boys go there… And the rebbeim are awesome and a lot of boys do very well there.

It is worrying to me just how determined you are to find out people’s personal info

Just realized how often I’ve been posting/checking the CR and its bothering me a bit…

Hmmm maybe I will!! 🙂

Lol WIY!

Personall, shabbos is really hard for me unless I have books. Its a long day and I dont usually want to see anyone. And I cant use my phone or ipod so…

Same here writersoul!

+1 OOM!!

Either button downs or polo shirts. I think the girls wear both.

I know a few people, girls in my school, my cousins..

Its not hard to speak troll. All you have to do is point and grunt.

I think it has to do with what your hair is like… Mine usually is pretty ok when i wake up!

And whats a shreck?

+1 Goq!

Sorry, Secular Frummy! Bio was years ago!

I don’t know that that’s true. We’re not chassidish and don’t speak yiddish at home and I can understand basic conversations…

I meant that no one like starting to think that evolution is how the world was created. We learned that there still is evolution but certain aspects we dont believe in…

I think we learnt it the best way. My teacher just spoke to us before and said this is not how the world was created, we dont believe in it, etc… I highly doubt anyone in my class learned evolution and started believing in it!

WIY- Makeup enhances your face, burkas most definitely do not! 😉