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A couple of years ago, by the RBS insanity, many chareidim were saying that there is no need to condemn the sikrikim, that these are a bunch of lunatics, that no one supports them, etc. Now that we are suffering the blow-back, we are wringing our hands about gezeiros, etc.
The CR bloggers can and will blame Hertzl, Ben Gurion, or whomever they want and rant about Zionist conspiracies. Some think that if they write twenty posts saying that Zionists are wrong, it constitutes a logical thought.
Bottom line, if we are nasty to others, it will come back to harm us. We need more Kiddush Hashem and less Chilul Hashem. It really is very simple.
The way posting on the CR has gone lately, a couple of posters will describe Krav Maga as a Zionist plot to destroy the peace loving religion of Islam.
I had been avoiding the CR in honor of The Nine Days and I return to find another in the long list of comparing Jews to Nazis. I am not defending the story described in the OP but the comparison to Nazism shows a complete lack of understanding the events of the Holocaust bordering on trivialization of the Holocaust.
While I don’t think the joke is particularly funny, I do think that the two subsequent critical posters posted as they did because it was an opportunity to take a shot at a venerable contrary opinion in the CR.
We can always count on a particular poster to compare Jews to Nazis. This time he had the restraint to only use code words. You are an obviously intelligent individual. Try making your points without trivializing the Holocaust.July 10, 2013 2:54 am at 2:54 am in reply to: Is theyeshivaworld.com nothing more than a tabloid in disguise? #964868
Other than the Lower Manhattan rally, I haven’t noticed coverage critical of Satmar. Here in the CR, the Satmar Shita is extremely popular.
Savannah is in Georgia. Isn’t that part of the former Soviet Union?
kfb- there is a big difference between the goyish girl and the Jewish girl. The goyish girl has no obligation of “lifnei iver” while the Jewish girl has such an obligation.
I am not commenting on the opening question. I am only commenting on your comparison of the two situations.
I noticed that the first poster spelled it “anti-Semitism” and the second poster spelled it “antisemitism”. The first way was more common until recently. Now the second way is more commonly used. I believe it is because there is no one group identified as Semites. Arabs, for example, may technically be called Semites although they are the most common perpetrators of antisemitism. Totally irrelevant to the original post but just an interesting linguistic point.July 2, 2013 2:48 am at 2:48 am in reply to: Making Nazi references about the Israeli government #962847
It’s wrong for chareidim, it’s wrong for chilonim, and it’s wrong for YWN CR posters. There is no double standard. It applies to all. All segments of Jewish society need to stop comparing Jews to Nazis. Whoever does so is guilty of trivializing the Holocaust.
James Madison. Primary author of the Bill of Rights. Although one could counter that achievements before becoming president should not count.
Private companies are free to make foolish and bad decisions.
Double standards abound. A poster wrote about Jesse Jackson. Well, he got away with it. Why? Because he is black and liberal. Clarence Thomas, one of the most brilliant legal minds is constantly vilified because although he is black, he is a conservative.
Who among the CR can say that he/she never laughed at an anti-black email joke (and maybe even forwarded it to his/her best 100 friends)?
WEVD was at 1050 AM which now is a Spanish language sports station. According to Wikipedia, WEVD was originally a socialist party radio station.
Within your question lies your answer. Well done steak is always difficult to chew. You might not want rare but medium or even somewhere between medium and well done should do the trick. Try again.
Shopping – I have never been involved in a CR conversation. On the rare occasion that I post, I do it in drive-by fashion, meaning, I post and move on. Every rule has exceptions.
When one posts in this type of forum, he/she opens him/her self up to the possibility of receiving negative comments. Although YWN CR is more polite than other forums, it’s not perfect. It’s important to know before posting, that you are taking a risk of being on the receiving end of not-nice comments.
That doesn’t make it right and I’m glad you accepted the sincere apology offered by yekke2. Nevertheless, all posters should be forewarned that they are entering a potential gladiatorial arena.
I didn’t read past the OP so others may have stated this. YWN is not anti-Satmar. Here in the CR there are many Satmar-influenced posters. They may even make up a majority of posts on Israel related topics. Your impression is based on YWN’s coverage of the rally in Lower Manhattan. That was an aberration not typical of YWN.
It could be that they realized that since pretty much every article is in some way political it’s redundant.
Regarding akuperma’s comment about the demography of American Jewry. He states that 90% of Frum Jews today descend from survivors while the previous generation is gone. I am not a demographer and perhaps an expert reading this blog can chime in with statistics but I’m not sure he is correct. Although the “hashpa’ah” of the survivors led to a resurgence of Yiddishkeit and as a result we have shteiged to incredible levels, I believe that by birth, most Frum Americans descend from the old-timers. I could be wrong. Experts?
We are not allowed to link, but Google the words “Anti-semitism in the Arab world” and you will get much info. Zionism may have “exacerbated” anti-Semitism in the Arab world, but it was not a “cause” of anti-Semitism.
Ever notice how when people say, “es chato’ay ani mazkir hayom,” they never confess anything really juicy?
I am not a Zionist nor am I an expert in the shitos of Rav Kook ZTL, but I’d be very cautious about paskening that a godol of Rav Kook’ stature is wrong. Let’s not forget that this is, after all only a blog, and us anonymous people should refrain from attacking gedolim.
Let me jump in here. I don’t think the term “Centrist” as used is intended as a comparative term, although it may seem that way. I think it’s a reference to what the Rambam calls the middle path. Modern Orthodoxy has often claimed that they are following the Rambam’s path. As such, the term “Centrist”, in that context, fits.
Why are so many OTD?
There is no answer. Each case is different. If it were that simple to answer, the problem would have gone away a long time ago.
What did I think was cool?
That machine at the dry cleaners that makes the clothes go around. Kind of like a carousel for suits.
As a Libertarian I am somewhat familiar with Ayn Rand though I am no expert by any means. Which of her writings are Anti-Torah? Being against government largess doesn’t equal stinginess. Assistance through private means is preferable to the welfare state.
I call Stop and Shop, Shop and Stop. But then again, that’s due more to forgetfulness.
Arafat was an thoroughly evil man. He used Zionism as an excuse just as Hitler used “lebensraum” as his excuse. By Hitler the real motivation was his war against the Jews. Ditto for Arafat. Hitlerian comparisons are generally unfair and inappropriate but most of us would agree that by Arafat it’s OK.
Regarding the father of modern day terrorism: Arafat is up there but depending on how you define terrorism, he may not be the first. Robespierre from the French Revolution probably qualifies as an early proponent.
Do a google search on The Muslim Brotherhood. This viciously anti-Semetic group was founded in 1928. Its founding principles do not seem to mention Zionism.
Rabbiofberlin, thank you for helping me out. It appears that we have prophets in our midst.
To reiterate my point: On many posts, Muslim aggression is excused away as a response to Zionism. We are being told that Muslims are really peaceful folk and it’s only because of those pesky Zionists that they do violent things.
I don’t live in the area.
I think people are reluctant to reply to your post because they sense that their answers may have a negative impact on a yid’s parnassa, and rightfully, no one wants to take achrayus for that.
You may claim you are only looking for positive responses but we all know where blog posts can go very rapidly.
I’m waiting for one of the CR regulars to comment that the bombings in Boston were a response to Zionism!
I’m curious. Has an Avel during shiva ever inquired of his LOR if he is permitted to listen to acapella music?
Did the Rambam’s family flee Muslim Spain because of Muslims reacting to “Zionist” provocation?!
The Yemenites maintained their mesora davka because they were so violently discriminated against guaranteeing that they would remain separate, except when Jewish orphans were kidnapped by the … Muslims. And these policies date back to the 10th century. Must have been “Zionist” provocation?!
I don’t know the history but I think the takanah of nidche is of recent vintage, thus the question was valid at one point, and according to some posters, still valid nowadays in some places.
The typical, rational mindset convinces Westerners that they “can deal with the Arabs more realistically.” The Arab world does not share that European sentiment. The Eastern mindset follows different rules. Arab agreements are temporary and intended to lull their enemies into a false sense of security. No one, regardless of religiosity or political persuasion is able to “deal with the Arabs more realistically.”
I guess when he sees your post he will respond on his own. I can only speculate.
It’s just his way of howling at the moon. No, we are not related. He’s been around a long time. I’m a newcomer.
They have no time. They are too busy banging when they hear the word “Medinah”!
At various times in history, Muslim leaders felt they needed the Jews for their economic acumen and temporarily treated them well provided they accepted second-class status. These times were the exception to the rule. Intolerance and forced conversion were more commonly the lot of the dhimmi Jew.
I sense an aversion among some posters to use the name “Israel.” What is so bad about using the word “Israel?” The only ones who use the term “Zionist Entity” are those who wish to push all the Jews out to sea. Let’s not imitate their rhetoric. Call Israel by its proper name.
Let’s say it’s cold?
I find the articles about families and their communities interesting. What annoys me are the letters to the editor the next week complaining, “How can you write an article about such-and-such city without mentioning my Uncle Willie who was the biggest ba’al chessed in that city?”
I am not familiar with the quote from Rav Noach ZT”L. Where was it from when was it said? He was an adom godol. Why don’t you find out from his talmidim if the quote is accurate and what he meant by it? A tzaddik of his stature who excelled in ahavas yisroel deserves better treatment than being attacked on a blog.
I’ve been in chinuch for two decades. In the yeshivos where I was/am employed there has been a total of 0 incidents of abuse of any form. I am not naive enough to think that it doesn’t exist. Of course it does. But it is no where near as common as some would have us think.
I’m not MO. I reject all lables other than “Jewish.” I just read this thread for the first time. I seriously doubt the 50% statistic. It doesn’t shtim with facts on the ground.