🍫Syag Lchochma

I assumed it was more of a parody than a joke.

OP means opening post.

The Torah requires us to use more than the laws of probability to govern our dealings with and responses to people.

Jmh- I was not under the impression your story was a response to playtime’s. His post was not considered when I commented.

Okay, I have one:

Buddy used to visit a chat room. Because Buddy is very sensitive, he always noticed the small handful of posters who were nasty, self-serving and condescending. There was also a poster or two who were very in-your-face and arrogant, thinking that every thread they wrote was just what we’d all been waiting for. While most people on the site were polite and caring, these posters were either ignored or reprimanded in light and rare postings. Because they didn’t respond well to reprimand, people generally seemed to work around them.

One day another in-your-face poster started posting. This poster was neither rude nor arrogent but many found the posts annoying. Because this poster was obviously young, the other posters who were always quiet for the nasty and rude posters, seemed to feel they had a green light to put this poster in his place. One poster chose a nasty and condescending way to “politely” reprimand, and the floodgates opened. Even those who normally don’t condone this type of rudeness seem to be justifying the posters rudeness. Buddy, who silently found this poster annoying, was surprised at the contrast between these different responses. He discussed this contrast with a psychologist friend and they wondered whether this was “herd mentality”, “justified bullying”, or just bad middos.

I get where you are coming from and I feel for you, but I also have to wonder about referring to gum popping as enough noise to wake a baby. There must be other factors. I do hope, though, that everything works out b’shalom.

shikron – if all that is true (shikron does sound a lot like shakron) and available for me I will be extrememly grateful to you. I only have a phone when I can afford it and that would cut the price in half.

Hooray!!

And just for the record – “Why do Yeshivish people speak this way?” Yeshivish people don’t speak this way. But perhaps the yeshivish people you know from Boro Park or New York do.

My heart goes out to you. You feel exactly as I did and exactly as I would wish any mother to feel toward their child. I can’t offer you much comfort but I can tell you that your child is so fortunate to have you. When you read posts where other mothers complain that summer is hard because they are stuck having to entertain their kids, it makes me wish I had more posts like yours to read. Hatzlacha on your transition.

writersoul – real people with real questions are a smaller minority

I always get rattled when someone writes things about their own daled amos and pretends they are general to the klal. The rest of this thread’s title should be: . . .if you insist on living the specific lifestyle that I would like to be living. As many here are trying to point out, your issues have less to do with being orthodox, and more to do with what you think is important in life.

Have a blast and tizku l’mtzvos!

Ultimate skier – hope you’re packed and ready!

…and can we stop him from being honored at the next dinner

Do you have to wait six hours before flieshik?

It isn’t easy at all but here is a suggestion for a perspective change –

You get upset with your mom treating you like a baby but being mean to someone because they tell you what to do is a very babyish response. So to give yourself the ‘umph’ you need to resist, tell yourself that a MATURE response would be to do what she says, or explain yourself kindly. Many adults don’t know how to communicate effectively, but it is definitely an adult skill. So when you want to jump in with a hurtful/nasty response because you think you are grown up, tell yourself that that response would only be proving her point. (It is easier to cater to your ego, and then change your motivation, than it is to fight your ego)

Hi Moishy, welcome back!

Are you related to THE cool Jew?

Vogue – that program is for the elementary schools (some?) and maybe for the girl’s high school but not for the yeshivas. If there has been an exception, it wasn’t recently and it was VERY much an exception.

writersoul – once again exactly what I was going to say. And Shaarei Arazim is awesome but very expensive (but you do get what you pay for)

Vogue – I wish you were right about even one of the schools you mentioned but unfortunately you have been misinformed. Skokie does have kids from weaker backgrounds but not weaker kids (not sure where you got that money/resource connection). Meor has no public or weak kids and would probably not even send him an application.

writersoul – don’t tell us, just give us the name of your favorite campers!!!! Jk I loved working in camps for kids with special needs. That’s actually how I met my husband when I was working as an administrator and he was a 1-on-1.

I’m so smart I wouldn’t even *want* to go to law school.

hi cinderella!

jmh – I think you (and many others) are overreacting in a big way. If this was posted by a secular teen expressing her thoughts about why it would be better for her not to be messing with boys who are messing with girls, NOT ONE OF YOU WOULD HAVE CARED!!!!** And I know it’s hard to see that because this is just one of “those” subjects.

And NO, I am not implying any kind of holier, smarter, greater etc than thou-ness. I have the same issue/response with other topics.

**(Not angry, just loud)

I disagree with popa, and I think he is just in denial.

He’s not disabled, he’s just an idiot. He said he put it up so his mother could visit but his mother never visits as she was critically ill and, in fact, passed away very shortly after the ramp was built. This is not an isolated incident, tho, this is pretty much how he does things. And no, he did not take it down, nor does he use it.