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The Chasam Sofer writes that the reason Jews do not speak Loshon Hakodesh as a speaking language is because it is inappropriate to use a holy language while enveloped in Tumah, which is our current status. The Rambam writes that a love song in Hebrew is more repulsive to Hashem than the same song in Arabic, for instance, because the pollution of the Holy language is an additional crime. If someone wants to store pornography in his house, thats bad enough. But to store it in the Aron HaKodesh is unspeakably worse. So to cause Loshon HaKodesh to be used as a street language, complete with all the disgusting ways it is used today in Israel, is just more of a reason why we should make sure it never gets into the streets. For our Creator to look down at the world and see His holy language – or even elements of it – used in magazines such as are sold in Kiosks on Yaffo or Dizengoff Street, or spoken by the lowest of the low trying to make a sale, is not something that he or we are happy about.
The Kuzari writes that Avrohom Avinu, therefore, spoke 2 different languages. One for holy speech – that was Loshon HaKodesh, and the other for mundane speech – that, the Kuzari says was some non-Jewish language that Avrohom Avinu took and changed around a little on his own. And thats the idea behind Yiddish. It is a non-Jewish language that we took and twisted a bit in order to make it exclusive among us.
Even though there are Yiddishistin who speak Yiddish, they took it from us, not vice-versa (as is the case of Modern Hebrew), and since we do not live in a country or society dominated by Yiddish-speaking shkotzim, there is no benefit of Lo shinu es leshonam by not speaking Yiddish. But there is such a benefit by not speaking Hebrew.
Donald: Which non-tznius permitted acts did the Chashmonaim execute for?
RW: Ivrit is a new language. It wasn’t spoken by Jews prior to Zionism and it’s atheist inventor Ben-Yehuda around the beginning of the 20th century. Prior to that Jews mainly spoke Yiddish, Arabic and Ladino.
MDD: You need proof of guilt. They don’t need to prove their innocence.
CA, why might he have Yichud? He knows to avoid such a setup.
AAQ: But Bruria committed suicide.
Reb Eliezer, your comment seems to indicate that you believe unmarried people shouldn’t be conversing over the internet due to intermingling of the genders. Correct?
Gefilte Fish: You are mixing up and confusing two different and separate issues. Kol Isha has nothing to do with the prohibition against unnecessarily chatting with a woman.
Dofi: You must have asked the same questions on Pinchus.
As a separate but related question, do you think Kanoim Pogim Bo is no longer applicable today?
richashu: Your comment is full of hogwash. Rav Ahron Kotler, the Satmar Rov and Rav Moshe were the three leading postwar Gedolei HaDor. All three were close to with each other and worked with each other on Klal matters, despite any Halachic disagreements they may have had. None attacked the others. The people who met Arafat etc were never under the direction of the SR. Nor was he a Daas Yochid on the primary issue of the State. He along with virtually all the other Gedolim opposed the State’s formation. What to do about it after it was formed was the only area they disagreed.
Rav Chaim Kanievsky agreed with Rav Shach as well as with his father the Steipler and the Chazon Ish regarding opposing settlements and other provocations against the Arabs, the could trigger them to violence against Yidden. If you disagree and feel we must settle all of Halachic Eretz Yisroel, then I suggest you start settlements in the parts of Eretz Yisroel that are in southern Lebanon and in Jordan, and live there.
GotAGPoint: Beis Din has the right, when it deems it necessary for the public order, to impose capital punishment for crimes that Al Pi Halacha aren’t capital crimes.
Klal Yisroel needs more Yidden like Yishai Schlissel, who was moser nefesh for Torah in Eretz Yisroel.
Avira, while most Chareidim in Israel speak Ivrit, most of them (especially Chasidim) also speak Yiddish. As to which is their first language and which is their second language, you might have a better idea. Among Chasidim it seems to me that most use Yiddish first, though by certain Chsiduses (Ger?) it can be the opposite.
“and HEBREW”
Did you capitalize that to hint to us that the Hebrew speakers litter more than Yiddish speakers?
Y1836: I saw it over a decade ago. I didn’t note the volume. Henkin in his published “psak” says that it is okay for women to dance in front of men, since he says “there not going to look anyways”(!!!). I just looked at my notes and need to correct the point above regarding the Godol, which I went from memory until you asked me to look it up. He questions if it is “permissible” to call the Satmar Rebbe “Zatzal”. (I’m not kidding.)
Besalel: If you delete irreligious Israelis, Ivrit has only a small percent of Torah observant Jewry speaking it; especially as a first language. Many can make it out based on our understanding of Loshon Kodesh but nevertheless do not use it as an everyday language. Yiddish is still the fastest growing language among Torah observant Jews since Chasidim, who are the fastest growing segment of observant Jews, use Yiddish as their first language. Whether they live in the United States, Canada, Israel, England, Belgium or elsewhere.
He isn’t.
Modern: Ivrit is not the language of Jews. The vast majority of Jews do not know Ivrit; especially outside the State.
Yiddish has historically been the lingua franca of Jews across countries.
Herzl Henkin, in one of his books, has a “teshuva” discussing whether a particular Godol HaDor (that he didn’t like) is an apokorus or not. In another “teshuva” he permits men and women dancing in the same open room.
Avira, the Ran in Nedarim paskens that Dina Dmalchusa does not apply in Eretz Yisroel.
What’s interesting about that, Amil? That it was The Deplorables that sunk Cheney?
Personally, I’d say to limit the languages on the sign to Yiddish and Arabic.
If the Democrat Justice Dept politicizes a political persecution of President Trump and tries to imprison him, they know that the next Republican Justice Dept will return the favor and find every traffic infraction to failure to report any political contribution to bust multiple top national Democrat politicians to bust into their home in middle of the night and lead them out in handcuffs, where the tipped of media will be outside taking pictures (just as the Democrat prosecutors did), and they’ll be charged with every imaginable and unimaginable crime under the sun.
Don’t forget the old adage that a Federal prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich. There’s a real truth behind that.
The Democrats know their political persecutions will have this result and are afraid. They may still choose to engage in political persecutions; but they won’t be surprised when the favor is returned when the next time the political pendulum swings to a Republican Administration (maybe even President Trump, second term — that’ll be fun as the Left has four years of heart attacks.)
CA: How does your response address Avira’s point?
Ray: Au contraire. It is when we forget that we are golus that keeps us in golus much longer.
Israeli pre-election polls are notoriously and historically highly inaccurate.
We are in golus. We must not impose ourselves on the Goyim.
P.S. During the times of the Beis Hamikdash, there were signs in foreign languages giving the Goyim instructions.
Yes, the New York one is still around. Opened in the 1700s, I believe. It is Sephardic.
You need to be a mother to use that site. It even tests you to prove your motherhood. What about the single maidelech?
Kinderlach, kinderlach, kinderlach.
Who are you referring to as Maran Sar HaToira?
These hilltop kids sound like they got caught up in Zionism but forgot to ditch their black hats.
Wasn’t the Spanish-Portuguese Sheriath Israel in New York City, which I believe existed from pre-revolutionary times, also strictly frum?
ubiq: Not “after the reality of Auschwitz was known” (to quote your question to me). Kastner knew of Aushwitz (he was very closely working with Eichmann ym’s on a daily basis and he received a copy of the Vrba-Wetzler Report); Hungarian Jewry at-large was not aware of the reality of Aushwitz in 1944.
ubiq: Nobody opposed resistance or running away after the reality of Auschwitz was known. If you’re referring to the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, such resistance was clearly futile and its futility was very foreseeable in advance. Getting Jews killed on the spot by resisting is worse than risking possible death in the future by not resisting. Running away from Aushwitz certainly no one opposed. And resisting as an individual, i.e. fighting an officer trying to arrest you to bring you to Aushwitz, no one opposed either.
C”V! How could you be choshed bksheirim? I still have my trusty childhood copy of The Wonderful Wizard of Oz by L. Frank Baum, copyrighted in 1900.
Reb Eliezer, Chasan Sofer is Oberlander, not Chasidish.
Gvir is a typical zionist. Just like Kahane, Goldstein and Shurin.
The Chazon Ish drew a surgical diagram to give the doctors to follow.
Ding Dong! The Witch is dead. Which old Witch? The Wicked Witch!
Ding Dong! The Wicked Witch is dead.
Wake up – sleepy head, rub your eyes, get out of bed.
Wake up, the Wicked Witch is dead. She’s gone where the goblins go,
Below – below – below. Yo-ho, let’s open up and sing and ring the bells out.
Ding Dong’ the merry-oh, sing it high, sing it low.
Let them know
The Wicked Witch is dead!By the way, when the coffee room was new in 2008, 2009, 2010, it was way worse. You had teenagers, young adults and middle aged fellows from both genders having very lively discussions and chatting and joking around on all subjects. And the posts back then were often being approved and posted within seconds or minutes of being submitted. Some threads were growing by a page (fifty posts) every hour or so (sometimes even quicker). Check out some of the very old threads (at least some of the ones that didn’t get mangled in the various CR software upgrades over the years.)
Who does the installation of the L&S on these cars?
Reb Eliezer, that doesn’t make sense. Nikita Khrushchev died long after the executions. His posthumously published memoir could not have contributed to their being executed.
Boris Brokhovich just wanted to feel like a big shot that he helped develop Russia’s nukes rather than admit Rosenberg helped Russia develop it.
Well, in this case I didn’t reprimand anyone. I do, essentially, agree with Moish. Which means you can say I’m (like everyone else here) wrong to be here. But I’d rather honestly admit that I’m doing something wrong than to pretend or claim that the wrongful activity is okay.
Isn’t it better to admit that one’s eating Hebrew National is something that I should stop rather than telling people Hebrew National is okay to eat?
The right wing/religious will likely split the votes into parties that fail to pass the threshold, thereby being wasted. Just like they did in the last few elections.
Menachem, Kahane only got in when the threshold was much lower. (Two seats, if I recall.)
Veep Richard Cheney was correct. A strong presidency is a strong America.
Kehilos having the power of coercion is a positive and proper arrangement and how things were done throughout Jewish history, until relatively recently.
Kehilos still Halachicly exist today, even if they lack the secular coercive power.
It’s happened. I acknowledge those rare occasions.
Kuvult, it’s a Halacha to follow that minhagim of the community you’re in, while you’re there.
Kuvult, it’s a Halacha to follow that minhagim of the community you’re in, while you’re there.