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  • in reply to: Can Someone Explain this Trend to Me #1691546
    akuperma
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    Fedoras are coming back in style for goyim, and the current “in style” is the small brim.

    How goyim wearing hats will impact on the frum community is an interesting question. Hats has been out of style among goyim (at least among white goyim) since th early 1960.

    I am old enough to remember back when fedoras were “in” among the goyim (in the 1950’s) and they always struck me as an un-dress hat, which is why I prefer a homburg (stiffer, small to moderate brim, brim is fixed and does not get squeezed down, no pinch in the crown)

    in reply to: Why Should I Pay for your Limo #1691188
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    Among goyim that is the last time anyone sees them for a week or more as they go off to some place else for a “honeymoon”. Halacha doesn’t allow for a “honeymoon”, so their friends see them frequently the next week at “Sheva Brachos”. The limosine is tied to their custom of the couple departing the community, and has no relevance in our’s. It’s arguably in the class of “two ring ceremonies” or raunchy “bachelor parties”, that is not merely alien to our traditions, but contrary to halacha.

    in reply to: What cell phone do you have? #1690674
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    I have a museum-quality phone that cost nothing (free minutes were worth more than the phone), that fits in my pocket easily, texts and does voice though the quality is poor (which might be the fault of my ears, which are long past warranty). The phone is identical to a model on display in the Smithsonian (apparently it was used to introduce online banking in East Africa back in the 20th century, revolutionizing their economy),so at the very least its as antiquated as I am. It works fine.

    in reply to: Realistic ways to lower tuition #1689853
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    BOTTOM LINE.

    Are the teachers well paid? Are donors or administrators suing the tuition money to live well? Are yeshiva building full of luxuries (and no, working toilets and functioning heating are not luxuries)? Are their lavish programs of non-academics such as well equipped sports teams or expensive music and arts programs?

    The answers to the above are obvious for frum schools (though not for non-Jewish private schools, or for some public schools). There is little if any “fat” to cut. So the only way to lower tuition is to get more donations (the goyim have the phrase “blood from a stone”) or to increase class size (which could be painless if we find a way to use distance education techniques effectively).

    in reply to: Wars every 28 years #1688164
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    Ler’s see, World War II started in 1931 (Pacific Theatre) and 1939 (European Theatre), though you can aruge it was one World War that started in 1914, and after a “between rounds” break fnished in 1945 (leaving assorted unfinished business such as Korea and the Middle East to fight about). The current war the US is in started in 2001, and shows no sign of ending, and has grown to include the entire Middle East and much of Africa.

    So maybe if you are good at calculus (which deals with infinities and the like), you could tell us when there will be global peace?

    in reply to: English Translations of Seforim #1688072
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    Most major Jewish books have been translated into English, though the quality of translations is poor, even if the translators didn’t deliberately leave things out on the theory that non-Hebrew readers are too simple to understand certain concepts, and assuming the translator had a solid command of both language (otherwise one gets a translation into Yeshivish or Brooklynese, not standard English). A major problem is that Hebrew had totally different syntax than English, and only two tenses (what we call the “present” in modern/zionist Hebrew is a gerund being used as a verb). As an example, if you say in Hebrew that Ha-Shem created the world, you are saying he not only did it at some point in the past, but he is still doing so. That has a profound difference in meaning, and can’t be translated. While translations are helplful tools, if you think you are getting “the whole story” you are deceiving yourself.

    in reply to: Why do Yeshiva not pay their Rabbes and Teachers on time? #1687131
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    note to “Anonymous Jew” — The “five towns” are one of the richest Jewish community in the world. For most Jewish communities in America, the people who can’t pay are living off food stamps, WIC and section eight.

    in reply to: Why do Yeshiva not pay their Rabbes and Teachers on time? #1686389
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    Our schools have never been solvent and they never will be. Teachers in our community will always be underpaid. The minhag going back millenia is to be inclusive meaning poor kids get an education. We don’t have special schools for the rich kids, unlike the goyim and arguably, the modern Orthodox as well. Given that most frum Jews will be poor relative to the goyim (and to the modern Orthodox), and that we choose not to exclude people from our institutions due to poverty, we will always been in a perpetual “chapter 11” (American reorganization under the bankruptcy law). It’s inevitable. That we survive is a נס.

    in reply to: Why do Yeshiva not pay their Rabbes and Teachers on time? #1686263
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    Response to “Yeshivos are no different from any other business or mosdos”

    Yeshivos are radically different. If Torah education were a for profit business it would have gone bankrupty millenia ago. The connection of Jews to Torah is not similar to consuming goods, but is more like eating, breathing and reproducing – things you do because it is in your nature regardless of economic theory. Based on the incredible demand for learnign Torah, it should by a hyper-expensive luxury limited to the very rich, yet it is the broad-cased “glue” that holds the Jewish people together regardless of income level. You may disregard Adam Smith or Lord Keynes or Milton Freedman or Alan Greenspan – the real world economics to not apply to learning Torah.

    in reply to: Why do Yeshiva not pay their Rabbes and Teachers on time? #1686253
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    Because they lack money since tuition is kept low compared to private schools where tuition (actually collected, after “scholarships” are figured in) is tpically around $30K per year, and they have a huge number of subjects involving almost twice as much time on instruction than in public schools. From the perspective of economics, out education system is not viable. Fortunately, we work from the perspective to Torah, not economics, and it seems to work out (we are here after several thousands years of ignoring the realities the social sciences scholars claims to preclude our existence),

    akuperma
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    It makes you are fashionable. One can argue there is a halacha basis to trying to blend it (be fashionable) with the local Bnei Torah, but that is hardly a halacha nor does it make you more frum.

    in reply to: To have them read Tolkien or not… #1681868
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    Mrs. Plony: Jules Verne was associated with anti-semitic political movements in France. While it doesn’t figure into his books, can you fail to take that into account in reading his works?

    in reply to: Guns #1681864
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    Under the traditional American definitions (somewhat modified from the British), the “militia” consists of all free persons. In 1789, that excluded women and slaves. In 1775, in England, it additionally excluded members of religious and political minorities, including Jews (though in the American colonies, most of which were populated by dissidents and undesirables from Britain, they were less fussy).

    If you believe the government is inherently benign and that we can always trust our security to state, there is no logical arguement to support private ownership of weapons. American Blacks certainly don’t trust the government, and while the current government under Donald Trump is one we can certainly trust, there is no guarantee what the future holds. We should remember that it took only a generation for German Jews to go to highly assimilated, well respected citizens of the Second Reich, to pariahs and outcasts under the Third Reich – and disarming Jews was among Hitler’s first anti-Semitic laws.

    in reply to: To have them read Tolkien or not… #1681493
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    In considering Tolkien’s works, consider the following:

    1) No hidden “Christian” messages (unlike many of the author’s discussed by others above, e.g. C.S. Lewis)

    2) While it’s based on European folklore, all theological aspects are deleted, and it has become the pattern for a significant genre of secular fiction. If one rejects Tolkien, one pretty much has to reject a large amount of western literature. Whether one should reject literature is a different issue – one could argue against all fiction, but that would mean the issue of which fiction doesn’t arise at all.

    3) Tolkien was very clearly anti-Nazi, well before the war, and at a time that the British establishment had yet to decide what it thought of Hitler (his correspondence with a would-be German publisher as whether he was “Aryan” make that very clear). For some authors, such as Jules Verne, even if the book has no “Jewish aspect”, one probably needs to remember that the author was involved in anti-Semitism movements of this time, and these movements eventually led to the Holocaust (or at least to decision of many in France to collaborate with the Nazis).

    in reply to: Guns #1681323
    akuperma
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    My Hiddush: The government should enact a law prohibiting criminals from owning guns and to make it illegal to use a gun in commission of a crime.

    in reply to: Is Watching Sports Okay? #1680274
    akuperma
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    1. Should the question be “is entertainment okay?”. Perhaps is having “fun” okay? Are you arguing the relative merits of watching a baseball game versus learning gemara, or perhaps as opposed to going to a concert, or perhaps compared to reading a book (as opposed to learning a sefer).

    2. Certain sports have specific halachic issues (swiming and “beach volleyball” come to mind very easily). While the ancient Roman “sports” were clearly avoadah zarah (yes, gladiators were a human sacrifice – not an athletic contest), one might find certain aspects of modern sports questionable as well (boxing, dog fighting, etc.).

    3. If a sport is permissable to participate in, is it also permissable to watch?

    in reply to: shokling during davening #1678883
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    Up until the invention of printing, books were expensive (e.g. a humash would cost as much as a SEFER TOTAH does today), and “shokling” facilitates book sharing since several peole can use a book.

    in reply to: shokling during davening #1678470
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    Up until the invention of printing, books were expensive (e.g. a humash would cost as much as a sefer does today), and it facilitates book sharing.

    in reply to: Do illegal immigrants pose a health risk as they are unvaccinated. #1678371
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    1. Most illegal immigrants are coming from places with functioning health system, and that lack idiots who don’t believe in vaccines.

    2. The health problems are largely related to conditions immediately before arriving at the US border and are easily treatable.

    in reply to: Should Britain Become the 51st State? #1678275
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    1. Britain is hardly going to give up its unique monarchy and constitution. A more like future change would be Britain (or pehaps just England, if Scotland and Northern Ireland want to stay European) joining NAFTA (USMC trade group).

    2. Politically, the British are significantly to the left of the Americans, at least on economic and social matters. They also have far fewer civil rights. Also note that if the whole the UK joined the USA, they would get 1 in 6 House seats and radically tip the country to the left. Their Tories are for the most part similar to Democrats, with their Labor party significantly to the left for the USA Democrats.

    in reply to: Bes Din question ⚖️❓ #1676624
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    Matters of child custody are never final until the child is an adult. This would be true even if the parents agreed the Beis Din decision was “final” and the local government agreed to it. It’s the nature of parent-child relationships to be dynamic and since facts are constantly changing decisions are continuously changeable.

    in reply to: Should The Rich Be Taxed? 💸🚕 #1674106
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    The rich pay most of the taxes. When their incomes fall, the government revenue takes a hit. Remember that taxation is basically a form of theft, and as any smart thief will tell you, it makes a lot more sense to rob from the rich than from the poor.

    Politically, the problem is that the Democrats consider anyone not living “hand to mouth” to be rich, whereas the Republicans perceive “rich” as someone who really doesn’t have to worry about money. So to the Democrats, most of the middle class is “rich” and fit for heavy taxation.

    in reply to: the demise of a normal sleeping schedule⚰️🛌🗓️ #1673091
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    The problem goes back to the invention of electric lights. Before them almost everyone went to sleep when it got dark out. Worldwide, it appears the sleep deprivation is a public health problem.

    in reply to: Is it healthy for yehiva bochurim to learn from a artscroll? #1672670
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    Healthy yes. The print is quite large and won’t strain his eyes.

    Intellectually, using a translation will probably prevent him from developing the ability to read the original. While artscroll is a good source for looking up a word in context, it is a very dubious translation. Many words are ambiguous and artscroll claims there is only one meaning. Out of necessity, it murders the grammar (which is inevitable in translating between a Semitic and an Aryan language). Many gemara terms are in “legalese” and artscroll is inconsistent in translating them into “street” English rather than into “legal” English.

    The all-Hebrew artscroll gemaras (or the Steinsaltz all Hebrew) are excellent provided one is already able to read modern (Israeli, zionist) Hebrew, Posing gemara language into modern Hebrew poses few of the problems of translating into English.

    in reply to: What’s with all the hate crimes against Klal Yisroel ?!?! #1671378
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    If you asked the question, it means your school seriously skipped the History curriculum.

    in reply to: Greater danger to yeshivas being ignored #1669440
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    “The Little I Know” — Think of the Plaintiff’s lawyer. He might end up spending tens of thousands of dollars out of his own pocket to hire expert witnesses, and litigates, and he ends up a judgement against a yeshiva that turns out to have no endowments, no assets, rents its building, and has more debts than assets. The best he can hope for is to be at the head on the queue when the yeshiva files Chapter 7 (and probably the faculty would get their back pay before the lawyer). The landlord then rents to a new yeshiva (which perhaps bought the trademark to the old yeshiva’s name, and hired the same teachers).

    With Catholics or Episcopalians (Anglicans), there is a large corporate body with endownments and oodles of real estate (church buildings) to seize when executing a judgement,but with Yidden the lawyer is confronted with yeshivos that are perpetually one step away from filing for bankruptcy.

    Have pity for the lawyer. A third of nothing, is nothing, which is what he’ll get suing Jewish schools.

    in reply to: Greater danger to yeshivas being ignored #1669388
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    zahavasdad: But the important thing to note in this case, is that the Rosh Yeshiva is probably judgement proof, as is the yeshiva. The statute is about allowing civil cases, and is very important for the lawyers who earn their parnassah from the “cut” they get, but in these cases, the only lawyer getting paid will be the bankruptcy lawyer, and they work relatively cheap. The statute in question was designed to improve the profitabililty of the “tort bar” (who in return generously contribute to the Democrats in the legislature), but that is of little interest to us since suing frum Jews is not a way to get rich.

    in reply to: Greater danger to yeshivas being ignored #1669234
    akuperma
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    There will be many disappointed lawyers (they typically get a third of any judgements, and often more). The Catholic Church is a single legal entity, so that the assets of the whole can be used to pay for damages committed by any part. Their clergy are employees of the Church, meaning the Church as a whole is liable for misconduct by indviduals, even if they had no control over them, Also the Catholic Church has large endowments and large amounts of tangible assets. In legalese, they have “deep pockets”. This attracts lawyers looking to make money.

    Jews, along with most Protestant and Muslim organizations, are highly decentralized. Even if one corporation (e.g. one school, one shul, one yeshiva, etc.) incurs massive debts, the judgement creditor can only look to that entity. While a given organization might be forced to file for bankruptcy, it will generate minimal payouts for the lawyers. And frum organizations tend to live “hand to mouth”, so there are no large endownents to attach. For all purposes, our community is “judgement-proof”.

    One should remember that the first thing a lawyer looks into when considering a lawsuit is not “justice” or “facts” but “will I get paid”, and suing Jewish schools is not potentially lucrative enough to attract tort lawyers. Frei Jews may spend their own money to sue as a form of harassment, but that is hardly an existential threat.

    in reply to: The old shidduch system #1668992
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    In the “good old days” most Jews lived in villages (with no more people that the typical shul, and often far fewer), and the nearest village was often hours away. Consider if one had to find a shidduch from a single shtiebel in Brooklyn, and the next shtiebel over was in New Jersey – and cities such as Baltimore and Boston were a week away. The role of the shaddchan was very different back then, and people were probably a lot less fussier. Oh,did I mention than most women died from complications of child birth, and most men (and childless women) rarely survived to middle age, and few children lived long enough to become parents.

    in reply to: Sephardim And Driving Nazi Cars #1668817
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    What about American, British and French cars.? It isn’t like there government’s were blameless.

    Should we boycott goods from the European Union on the theory that it is a successor to Rome?

    Mind you, virtually no one now owning stock in, or employed by, any of those corporations was a Nazi.

    Did you ever compare notes with African Americans who blame all whites for things that happened in North America in the 17th through mid-19th centuries? You would find you have a lot in common.

    in reply to: Who benefits from the shutdown? #1668159
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    All civil servants get paid in the end, including those who were on “vacation” the whole time. If one was planning to do overtime (e.g. to build up hours for upcoming yuntufs) you do lose that. Contractors in most cases don’t get paid.

    This is a ridiculous, but largely harmless way, for the Democrats and Republicans to prove their ideological purity. Holding your breath until you turn blue is childish. Giving your employees a paid vacation is an insane from of protest.

    in reply to: Who benefits from the shutdown? #1667674
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    The only beneficiaries are the non-essential employees, who get paid without having to come to work. It is a mild inconvenience to miss some paychecks, but they get the money in the end, and they end up having received large amounts of time off without having to use up leave.

    The leaders of both parties (Trump and Schumer/Pelosi) benefit by showing their “base” they stood up for their principles, but they alienate the rest of the country which isn’t amused by the idea of giving a chunk of the tolerably well paid service a “no show” job at public expense.

    in reply to: New Kosher Gym? #1667127
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    I know that at some JCC’s have separate male and female hours (in Baltimore the local JCC has a room that is separate for one-gender only, with separate hours for males and females = in addition to the larger fitness room which is mixed). ARE THEY ARENY INDEPENDENT “FRUM” SINGLE GENDER FITNESS FACILITIES THAT ARE PRIVATELY OWNED OR AT LEAST OPERATED BY FRUM ORGANIZATIONS, ANYWHERE?

    in reply to: Freezer-Burnt: Most boys unprepared for dating or married life. #1665797
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    Do you have any evidence that anyone, anywhere, any time was “ready to get married”?

    in reply to: Freezer-Burnt: Most boys unprepared for dating or married life. #1664858
    akuperma
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    Most children are unprepared for adult life. In pre-modern times, children generally worked with adults doing adult things (housework, caring for children, working in the father’s business, etc.) and learning how to be adults. In the 21st century most children go to school, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but that leaves them unprepared for the adult role of being heads of their own families. It isn’t a problem limited to Jews. In fact, in most industrialized countries, one sees a rapidly falling birth rate which is probably the best indicator that the children are unable to successfully transition to adult roles, which is already having a devastating effect on some countries (e.g. labor shortages, inability to fund social security systems, etc.).

    in reply to: Will Israel be the korbon of Trump’s desperation. #1664099
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    Proposing a peace offer that allows for Israel to continue as a viable Jewish state is guaranteed to be rejected by the Palestinians. If the Arabs ever change their mind and offer to agree to anything that would permanently end the war and lead to Muslims recognize that a large chunk of Eretz Yisrael is no longer part of the territory of Islam, it would end the war, but that won’t happen. Trump knows that.

    in reply to: Who’s going to be the one to lose out #1663651
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    Trump will win. He can give the speech anywhere (in fact, it is only a 20th century custom for it to be a speech). He can choose an audience that will be very supportive, rather than a Congress mos tof whose members hate him with a passion. Pelosi will win points with her base for “dissing” the President, but to most people it will seem that she is now the one shredding law and custom.

    in reply to: Palestinian Rashida Tlaib is Dem Version of Racist Steve King #1663157
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    Hiddush here?

    Joe Stalin was the Russian version of Adolph Hitler, yet the British, Americans and politically correct people everywhere fawned all over him.

    in reply to: Shidduch Crisis is not real! #1662594
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    It’s real to the people looking for shidduchim.
    Always has been that’s way.
    Then they get married.
    And produce the next generation, which grows up and has a shidduch crisis (see first line)

    Exception to the above loop: Adam ha-Rishon has a real problem finding a shidduch and needed divine intervention and some really complicated surgery.

    in reply to: How Close Are You To Your Cousins? #1662225
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    1. A cousin is someone with whom you have a common ancestor. Unless you hold ourself out to be descended from a bunch of apes, we are all cousins.

    2. Closeness to cousins depends largely on geography.

    in reply to: Can president Trump save his presidency? #1662221
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    Trump is no more unhinged than his critics. He has managed to capture two issues (protectionism and immigration) that had been parts of the Democrats platforms and made them his own, much to the consternation of the Republicans which favored liberal immigration and free trade (both being highly pro-business, albeit anti-labor, policies). Assuming the Democrats continue to move radically to the left, there will be an opportunity for a centrist moderate (someone pro-business, for consistent internationalist muscular foreign policies, etc.) to run as a fusion as moderates of both parties, together, outnumber the Trump or Socialist bases that appear to now control their respective parties.

    in reply to: 66% of Muslims in the US are Democrats #1661650
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    The “hatred” between Jews and Muslims is largely a function of the “real estate” dispute in the Middle East. Note the during the pre-zionist period, roughly 700-1914, Jews in most Muslim countries tended to regard themselves as better off than Jews in Europe, and rarely were inclined to flee unless they were conquered by Christians, whereas European Jews were in a state of constant turmoil due to annoying goyim. While Jews were second class citizens in Muslim countries (similar to African Americans in the “Jim Crow” era), that was a lot better than the frequent genocide in Europe.

    Most Muslims come to America with the hope of being free of the constraints of living in an Islamic country. While the current wars in the Middle East are a problem, in all fairness America is treating them better than Germans (especially in World War I) and Japanese (during World War II) were treated in America.

    in reply to: Shidduch Crisis: Women who earn too much #1661634
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    Historically, women were supposed to earn too much so they could support their families while did something more useful, such as learning. In our tradition, unlike the goyim, maniliness (being “macho”) was based on Torah and Mitsvos, not being a good earner.

    in reply to: 66% of Muslims in the US are Democrats #1661229
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    1. Given that anti-Muslim feelings are stronger among Republicans than Democrats, that number 2-1 for Democrats seems about right.

    2. Defining a Muslim, like defining a Jew, is tricky. Most Americans would say anyone from a Muslim (or Jewish) background who is not a Christian is therefore still a Muslim (or Jew) even if they aren’t very religious.

    3. Most Muslims who came to America did so in the hope of assimilating into a majority culture where they will be free of many aspects of Islam (same for most American Jews).

    in reply to: Who’s going to be the one to lose out #1659130
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    Such a breach of custom would backfire totally.

    in reply to: Government Shutdown #1657579
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    1. Collecting taxes is an essential function. Interestingly enough, paying refunds is not.

    2. It is bad for “contractors” but no one else is horribly affected since they pay the money at the end. The government doesn’t save money by a shutdown, but it loses some fees it would have collected. Non-essential civil servants in the affected agencies (about a quarter of the agencies) get bonus vacation as a result of a shutdown, i.e., they get paid for not working.

    3. We should all be proud of the politicians of both parties who are keeping their promises. Trump promised to build a wall, and the Democrats promised he wouldn’t.

    in reply to: How Will The New Minimum Wage Laws Affect “Cleaning Help” #1654482
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    If the helper is your spouse or child or younger sibling, it will have no impact. One doesn’t customarily pay family members for helping. Paying a family member to induce them to help around the house does not require paying taxes or paying the minimum wage and if you start charging the kid for room and board, that also is not a taxable event).

    If you hire a non-family member, you have to pay the minimum wage including various employment taxes based on the wages you pay. Failure to do so can get you in big trouble (serious fines, paying back taxes with interest, and even jail).

    in reply to: Why do people get nervous when they fly? #1652195
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    A professional pilot (meaning someone whose full time career is flying) is not a “private pilot” – even if he or she works for other than a major carrier. Someone who flies his own plane when he needs to travel, but is not a professional pilot is “private”.

    in reply to: Trump will not be re-elected. Sorry #1652072
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    The non-denomination prayers would strike any Jew, except for a “Reform” of their so-called “Classical” wing, as being strictly Protestant. Everyone understood it as such, Jews and Catholics who were serious about their children’s religious upbringing avoided public schools. In the example cited above, note the language. Have you ever heard a Jew in Hebrew use the word “Thee” (an archaic English form with no equivalent in Hebrew)? In fact, did you ever hear of a Jewish school starting the day with such a prayer, in English. Indeed, most frum Jews never use the word “god” since to us it refers to someone like Thor or Zeus or some goyish entity. While most Jewish schools start with davening, our davening is totally different than their “prayers”.

    in reply to: Why do people get nervous when they fly? #1652036
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    1. Private planes have a much worse safety record than airlines. One reason is that private pilots don’t get as much experience as professional pilots, and few have sufficient funds to provide the same level of maintenance as airlines or the armed forces.

    2. While planes may have a better safety record than surface transit, the liklihood of surviving an airplance crash is much less. Remember that if your car, bus or train develops mechanical trouble, you are at most delayed. If a plane develops mechanical problems in flight, it is likely to be fatal.

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