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  • in reply to: The Bochur found out he is not Jewush… #2042178

    phil > Most Russian/Ukrainian immigrants to Israel in the last few decades are not halachically Jewish

    Most of Rusim came from 1970s to 1990s. Later arrivals are indeed remnants of those who did not come when everyone else did and are way more likely to be non-Jewish or even, if Jewish, have marginal attachment to Judaism. Same goes with Beta Israel – dedicated Jews came first, converted – after.

    If this kid ended up in a yeshiva, I don’t think this is random in Israel where people segregate. Maybe his parents are BTs of some degree and the mother realized at some late point that she is not Jewish and did not find strength to disclose (as that Lebanese chatan)

    in reply to: I have COVID #2042177

    As Gemora says about whether to say brocha on water – “go and see”. I googled it and there are multiple sites that would seemingly ship HCQ to you. I did not verify whether the feds will stop the shipment.

    in reply to: House January 6th Commission #2042176

    > the fact that Jews can be part of the government.

    what is the history here – were Jews limited in running for federal or state government in US? for towns before US was formed?

    in reply to: taanit notzrim #2042175

    RebE – Sunday, shopping day!? You would be arrested in New England for that in good old times!

    Shalom, yes, both Latin and Greek took it from Hebrew and from there other European languages.

    >> Bonus: Jewish in Italian is: Ebreo…

    My grandmother O’H learned the word from a priest. She got into an emergency room while in Italy and a priest was making rounds. He listed the languages he knew that did not intersect with hers, no she had energy for a discussion. She just put one finger up towards the heavens. O, said the priest – Ebreo! (this proves that priests know that they are not monotheists :).

    in reply to: taanit notzrim #2041858

    Rabbi Yohanan is followed by (hist student) R Shmuel b Nachmani (agadic explanation: 3rd day after creation of Adam and he is not feeling well) and then Resh Lakish with a better fitting explanation – neshama yetzera leaving, so either sipiritual or physical weakness on yom rishon.

    Now, Resh Lakish arguing is fine, that’s what 2 of them are doing. But is it typical for R Shmuel b Nachmani to argue with his teacher? I looked up several cases, he usually quotes his teacher. So, maybe his (weak) attempt here is because he also sees the problem? And as Resh Lakish gives a solid explanation, there is no reason to dig further.

    We probably do not say “rejected” opinion of R Yohanan, right? As this is historical interpretation not having halakhic nafka minas seemingly.

    in reply to: taanit notzrim #2041857

    Do I read Ben Yehoyada correctly? He quotes Maharsha and confirms the problem and resolves that even during BM times, they saw through ruach hakodesh that this day will be the day nochrim will celebrate. Seems like Ben Yehoyada also agrees that this is ahistorical.

    in reply to: Tanach in Yeshivos #2041827

    Johnny > torah is not a story book

    why such negativity towards children. Children learn from stories (better than from memorizing homework).

    in reply to: I have the flu #2041825

    Ammonia could be used for screening large events: sprinkle it near the main entrance, and then close the doors inside. Everyone who smells it and goes around through the backdoor, is allowed in.

    It is in Eruvin and in Chassidus: a long short way that a kid asked about.

    in reply to: I have the flu #2041824

    ammonia would be handy for diagnostics: if you smell it, you have flu; if you don’t – covid.

    in reply to: Accounting for potential misunderstandings #2041822

    In halakha, you have to take care of other person’s sensitivity. You usually can’t say – I did not mean anything bad, it is he who is too sensitive. Online discussions have several extra challenges:

    1) you don’t see the person and he does not see you. This also shows in emails between people who know each other. Usually, it is better to pick up the phone than to continue angry emails

    2) you don’t know the person and he does not know you, so you make worst assumptions. This is similar also to books, but

    3) this is written quickly and 4) we are not authorities that can claim respect l’hathila so many people do not apply l’tzad schut

    general advice – if there is misunderstanding, it is not a big deal, both sides should adjust how theu read/write to make it into exchange of ideas rather than a meaningless flame war. If you are not improving in either writing or reading experience, time for self-review and ask someone else to give you an advice.

    Hopefully, you’ll develop an ability to express yourself better and to read with more understanding/

    in reply to: Bachurim Smoking in Yeshivas #2041821

    Avira > Let’s look at it from a bochurs perspective.

    you may be right that we have biases. MOs have a bias to follow “science” and can be biased to follow them into danger. More conservative groups have the bias of “tradition”. Obviously, Torah rulings change when facts (or our knowledge of them) changes. So, it is culturally hard to stop smoking if a heilige rosh yeshiva from previous generation did. And, after you read or hear enough of hagiographies about gedolim who were always right in everything, it becomes a statement of faith: if I stop smoking, I am betraying my Rosh Yeshiva.

    in reply to: Discrimination against religious firefighters in Judea/Samaria #2041819

    I was wrong, court decision was overturn in June 2021

    The Second Circuit Court of Appeals has overturned a lower court decision that concluded that FDNY must allow firefighters with a skin condition an accommodation to have beards. In doing so the court concluded in clear and unambiguous terms… and I quote: “An accommodation is not reasonable within the meaning of the ADA if it is specifically prohibited by a binding safety regulation promulgated by a federal agency.”

    in reply to: Discrimination against religious firefighters in Judea/Samaria #2041818

    from UK FAQ: you need to be clean shaven around the jawline area for the breathing apparatus to make an effective seal.

    NY court apparently overrruled that, so maybe there are devices that allow beards. Maybe someone should sponsor those.

    in reply to: where to you live #2041817

    Goldilocks > Most of the frum residents of Rockland are pretty upset by the construction going on here.

    let’s look halakhically: new construction should not ruin other residents, but can compensate for damage. Presumably, this is what town clerk is doing – developers pays for whatever damage he does to the town (what is it?). Really bad damage I can think of – building houses that will increase crime. Other than that – there will be more traffic? Think of all people who need housing and possibly of people who want to earn money building a house. You have to have a serious reason to limit them.

    At the end, those woh feel strongly about this should start their own town, like new Square, and control what they want to do as a community.

    in reply to: House January 6th Commission #2041812

    RebE > Maybe you should go Russia which you will like better than the US.

    Just ask those who know. There is a new report that Trump increased vote among Hispanics in US in 2020 primarily to their fear of socialism. I knew about Cubans and Venezuelans in FL, but it is all across the board and states. They are afraid of government control, decrease in personal responsibility, etc.
    Putin seem also to prefer D-s (even as he works to weaken them of course) – his recent acquisitions in Ukraine were under Obama and now he is up again. Yes, there was Georgia under Bush.

    I would also say than Jan 6th commission reminds of government-appointed trials but you probably will say “revolution justifies that” 🙂

    in reply to: The Bochur found out he is not Jewush… #2041811

    Haleivi: A non-Jewish Talmid Chochom? When he converts, we’ll admire and love him

    I would presume that “best bochur” already learned at least something. The fact that he is not Jewish will change quickly and he is not going to lose his memory that fast. So, it is clear already that this is going to be a good person. And, add there, those who actually were Jewish and are also bochurim. Obviously, he was there an only fUSSR bochur, otherwise he would have been vetted extensively.

    Btw, we just had a series of articles about missionaries living “frum”, so this is not as bad.

    in reply to: The Bochur found out he is not Jewush… #2041807

    > any Baal Tseuvah is probably safek goy.

    probably true more of Americans than Soviets. Americans are intermarrying for quite some time and may have crossed the ocean 100 years ago with loss of papers and archives. Those who stayed in USSR and came to Israel in 1990s, there are 2 generations of assimilation, grandparents were probably still alive. If they hide or forge papers, then, of course, all bets are off.

    in reply to: taanit notzrim #2041764

    HaLeivi, if there are no other girsaot, then it seems that Meiri/Maharsha see the problem and are looking to explain?

    Btw, for comparisons of translations: Artscroll just translates notzrim as “Nazareans”,Hebrew Steinsaltz quotes Meiri/Maharsha

    in reply to: taanit notzrim #2041431

    For those bringing other gemorahs, maybe I was not clear. Taanit talks about maamadot that existed throughout bm2 or maybe bm1. So appeasing layer notzrim is not relevant

    Jackk, Meeri is obviously trying to resolve this difficulty, academic work that I cited brings some obscure group that fits. The group had to be influential enough in or near EY at some point. Also, why nobody else cares? Maybe because the early girsa was not about notzrim?

    Haylev, possible. Seems like week became popular internationally during bm2 (Babylonians had approximate 4 weeks the last one longer to fit into hodesh), and early Romans attached planet names

    in reply to: The Bochur found out he is not Jewush… #2041429

    So you would rather have this bochur manning Russian Ukrainian border on either side? Let’s say it is 1 in 100, should we not accept 100 immigrants for one Talmid chacham? And note that those 99 will also vote for right wing parties, putting recent party bilbul aside

    in reply to: 80 Years Today of Pearl Harbor Invasion #2041428

    Keep in mind that both sides knew well what others were doing: VP Wallace shared white house news, including pre and post Pearl harbor to his BIL, a swiss diplomat, and Nazis had a spy there. Us and Britain were reading all cables between Japan and their negotiators in US, including hard dec 1 deadline and even time of planned delivery of the final note to end negotiations. The only thing that was not there was where exactly attack will happen, although that information existed in other collects

    in reply to: 80 Years Today of Pearl Harbor Invasion #2041421

    By1212, Soviets would take a lot of time walking to Berlin without jeeps. I am open to evidence that operation overlord was to stop Stalin taking over Europe. What is it? Available evidence shows that Stalin pressed for the operation to start, and Churchill stalled first because he was afraid of losses and failure, and also tried to bargain for full access to nuclear development with an eye for postwar.

    in reply to: The Bochur found out he is not Jewush… #2041414

    Where are all the people who wanted to stop the mother from coming?

    in reply to: What is the worst insult you can receive #2041417

    I once was told by a bad teacher in an unworthy subject that I was the worst among those passing the test. I bragged about it but then a friend claimed I am a liar because that was what HE was told! I was vindicated when we reconstructed the timeline of the test day and turned out I tested after him.

    in reply to: What is the worst insult you can receive #2041416

    I was once accused by a friend of preparing hiddushim because I repeated one and claimed I just came up with it! I could not convince him that I forgot it and invented again.

    in reply to: Bachurim Smoking in Yeshivas #2041409

    Those who lived in places where smoking was popular: can we estimate the timeline: when science showed the danger, when it became widely known, when teshuvos were written, when new smokers declined, when older smokers started quiting

    in reply to: where to you live #2041406

    City big enough to have 3 shuls: one hol, one shabbat, and one to never go to

    Modern version: one inside, one outside, and one in between

    in reply to: Kiddish/Chillul Hashem #2041405

    I am concerned about possible hypocrisy when someone is careful NOT to return a lost item to H’sh not to strengthen a rasha or an idol worshipper, which is a worthy consideration, but really a minute effect for most list items. Are you equally concerned about list 10 minutes for learning, a bad word you said to your spouse, time you didn’t spend with your kid – each of these having a larger effect on the world than that lost item

    in reply to: Kiddish/Chillul Hashem #2041404

    Avira and ujm raise an interesting question: where is the boundary between behaving morally in the nonjewish world and accepting what we should not. Even haleivi’s simple list is questionable: not just freedom and racism, but even opening a door for a woman so that she would walk in front…

    Rather than arguing about boundaries, I would rather make a list of unquestionable items and train yourself in those, like returning items (I have to concede finally a place where walking in a bekesha helps to create a kiddush Hashem), paying on time, following traffic rules, paying taxes, keeping one’s word, etc

    in reply to: I have terrible table manners #2040919

    A rosh yeshiva who, in my view, has impeccable manners, told me that he once met a prospective F-I-L who had even more impeccable manners, eating a sandwich with a knife & fork. Given that the shidduch did not happen, I presume that F-I-L was annoyed by the lack of manners of the future RY.

    in reply to: I have terrible table manners #2040989

    >> it’s OKAY to be impolite!

    As OK as eating treif. Rabbi Akiva, Beitza > Derech Eretz MinHatorah

    in reply to: Kiddish/Chillul Hashem #2040973

    Ubi, apologize, took your words out of context

    in reply to: Kiddish/Chillul Hashem #2040975

    Can we resolve the issue towards non-Jews that we should follow their standards towards them? That is, you don’t need to go to the extent of halakhic obligation, but do at least what a normal non-Jew will do, maybe a little more – return to “lost & found”, pick up from the ground to a chair, don’t take it at all …

    For a benchmark, see a current story on YWN front page about someone in Indiana finding an old photo that flew 100 miles from Kentucky tornado, posting on FB and eventually finding the owner. However awesome it is, it is slighyl below the Jewish standard that would require spending another 10 minutes googling the name directly instead of relying on power of FB …

    Also, I personally benefited from non-Jews calling to deliver a lost purse (in NorthEast) and just not touching a purse on the window for several day (in the South).

    in reply to: Kiddish/Chillul Hashem #2040974

    Ubi: Rambam Gezeila 11:3

    Note also that Rambam refers to “reshaim olam”, so the issue seems to be not just avoda zara but maybe those who are hurting Jews or world in general? Not clear what would he say about Muslims.

    Also, note as Avira said that S’A is not fully following Rambam here, but modern poskim seem to stress that possibility of Hillul Hashem or a chance for Kiddush Hashem really cover a lot of cases.

    What is interesting in this case is that it is clearly not a mitzva of hiddur v. halakha – you can make a wrong decision both returning to an inappropriate person and not returning when appropriate.

    in reply to: Goodbye and Good Riddance! 👋🏻 #2040957

    I said it on the front page. I am shocked, shocked home many “frum” people watch TV. Is it permissible?

    in reply to: Chafetz Chaim story “I took a check.” #2040940

    > (which the goyim associate with global warming), being next to the ice machine may not be such a bad strategy

    You might be sharing this spot with some Swedes enjoying sauna.

    in reply to: Chafetz Chaim story “I took a check.” #2040938

    there is definitely a difference in Olam Haboh real estate:
    In Taanit 25, R Elazar b Pedat complained to Hashem about his health in his dream, was offered to reverse the world so that he can start again with a possibility (not certainty) of better life, he passed this chance and as a reward was offered 13 rivers of pure balsam oil. (True to his nature of complaining?) he asked for more, but Hashem replies that this would be a problem of other tzadikim (who apparently would then also request raises, leading to grade inflation and shortage of balsam oil).

    in reply to: Levush #2040928

    In today’s Taanit daf, one is allowed to be immodest and behave like a Talmid chacham in matters where he has a loss – such as not working around 9 Av. So, someone who behaves like a Talmid Chacham (dresses up) in matters where it brings positive attention to him, or do it as part of culture – should not get your preference in shidduch over a guy who is not showing off.

    This is not to deny reasons Avira and others bring why it helps community to stay strong by dressing certain way. Just to say, that someone who is erleche and yashar without dressing up is not to be looked down upon.

    in reply to: I have terrible table manners #2040929

    Goldilocks > you should definitely practice at home!

    He should practice to the point when he is sure he’ll be doing it when married. If he is practicing just to impress the shidduch, and then he’ll revert to his non-manners, this could be mekach taut!

    in reply to: Shelo Asani Isha #2040854

    I think Talmid Chacham has a priority in pidyon also

    in reply to: I have the flu #2040902

    Health,
    I agree on testing, but we are talking about people, especially from the stubborn Jewish community. For those who are not going to test (and many will not), they should isolate.

    The Talmidei Chachamim I know always test after coming from a crowded Jewish community before mixing up with their congregation. It is pretty easy right now, $20 per home test, I believe. I am reading that Europe now provides these test for free, but Brandon did not dare doing it and is trying complicated schemes like asking people to submit receipt to insurance. This will not increase use.

    in reply to: I have terrible table manners #2040812

    > my duty to tell you that its ok to show it in your flaw house but NOT on a date

    1) if you do it at home, rest assured you’ll do it on the date. Maybe on the 3rd one.

    2) Maybe you should demonstrate your manners now in order not to mislead the other side.

    in reply to: I have the flu #2040807

    Syag > while you isolate them and monitor their oxygen levels.

    Syag, don’t under-estimate non-doctors. One of the first people (I think in April or May 2020) to notice value of oximeters for monitoring Covid was an engineer who noticed the issue, contacted several doctors, made a couple of experiments, and wrote an OpEd in a major paper. By now, there are research papers confirming benefits.

    in reply to: Non jewish isreilis #2040808

    Historian, I agree that latest immigrants is a different issue and probably have more non-Jews – same as with Beta Israel, most Jews came first, intermarried and converted later on. There is less of emergency now and should be no excuse of not checking them out. We were talking about large aliya of 1990s – and later conversion (of them and their children)

    in reply to: Levush #2040805

    inquisitive, +1 on using the work ehrliche. Maybe you should be telling your friends that this is what you are looking for and, B’H, you’ll find!

    edited!

    in reply to: Levush #2040801

    Avira > why you don’t think it’s important to look different than the non Jews

    I acknowledge we have many times when we dressed differently (from midrashim on Mitzraim to medieval Europe), we have cases when Jews apparently got dressed as non-Jews maybe with certain exceptions, such as red color. Both in certain parts of modern Europe, Spain, Sephardim, Italian Jews, Talmudic times. In some cases (Germany) dressing like non-Jews was a sign of assimilation, but not always. We discussed this even for Talmidei Chachamim, kal vehomer for the general community, even if you call the community “bnei torah”.

    in reply to: I have the flu #2040788

    Syag > That’s not a clarification, that’s a completely different message. … assume he has covid and isolate. And monitor his oxygen levels.

    thanks for correcting me. “In addition to whatever you plan to do for the flu, test or presume that you might have covid and act accordingly”

    in reply to: Kiddish/Chillul Hashem #2040753

    I listened to (just several minutes) “halakha” class from TorahAnywhere and it is similar in spirit to what Avira said – pointing differences between non-Jews and Jews, and briefly mentioning “kiddush Hashem” issues. I don’t know whether this is a representative class, but I hope those who learn this way understand that this is learning S’A, but not learning halakha l’Maase, without taking into account modern society and sensibilities in terms of Kiddush/Hillul Hashem and other subtleties of halakha.

    in reply to: I have the flu #2040761

    Syag, I am not playing a doctor. To clarify – if he thinks he need to go to the doctor, he should. I am suggesting additional precautions only. I am considering here that he presumes it is a flu and it could be Covid. Same goes for people presuming they have sudden allergies. Everyone with possible covid symptoms should slow down and find something to do for a couple of days.

    Rough estimate: flu is defintely back this year after missing last year. there are 800 flu hospitalizations per week and 50,000 with covid, so if someone is having a difficult case, R’L, covid seems more likely. Probably less for a young person, though.

    in reply to: Kiddish/Chillul Hashem #2040740

    > No one during the holocaust had a choice

    While true in general, there were often choices to be made, although often unclear ones … first, there were choices to try to emigrate before WW2 to Palestine or US. Another example I saw in a book – 2 brothers with families who ran away from German Poland to Soviet in 1939. They were then offered Soviet citizenship “or else”. The one who accepted, stayed there until German came and perished … The one who refused was soon arrested en masse, sent to GULAG, was then recalled by reconstituted Polish Army, was able to make it to Persia and from there to Palestine.

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