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> is there anything available from a man?
why would you want an inferior product?!
Women score better on English and Reading ACT.
Some estimate that women say 20K words a day, 3 times more than men. They are definitely bekiyot.Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI found an unbiased source that validates Jared’s work (biased the other way to be precise). Albert Bourla, Pfizer, wrote a book about vaccine development. His language overall shows that his thinking is generally center-left. He is careful not to bash people and is putting some praise and some blame on people, but not too much. He also makes a lot of lame excuses for moments when he did not do something possibly for partisan reasons.
He describes how Trump made a quick meeting of business people when Covid just started, says that while most people taked about drugs, his rep mentioned vaccines and Trump immediately supported that (B seemed to have an excuse to not come to the meeting). Then, he does not mention T until describing in detail T’s attempt to get test results before elections and mentioning that T was an only head of state that did not congratulate him on that. So, definitely, no love lost.
So, he mentions that (way after the election), he was having problems with some gov people buying additional vaccines late (despite B’s telling them before) and trying to get him into new contract negotiations and lose months on that. So, Jared heard about it and called him on his cell unprompted, asked to describe the issues, agreed that gov was not doing the right thing, and resolved the issue in several days.
Other tidbits from the book:
very positive on Bibi: Bibi called him during Israeli night without scheduling like all others; teleconned all lawyers and resolved problems on the spot; worried about B’s own taking vaccine; worked out a deal to get vaccines in exchange for being a “test country” by providing large-scale statistics. This data helped identify onset of Delta early in June 2021 and prove that efficacy against Delta falls with time, leading to immediate decision on boosters (Fauci first got angry about conclusions made without him, but then agreed). Bennett was also knowledgeable. B; has also a lame excuse that his 2nd vaccine (that he controlled timing of) was given too late to pass Israeli law – so he did not come to Israel before election that Bibi lost…– positive on Boris Johnson (also knowledgeable and pro-active), EU President von der Layen (she is now in trouble in EU for helping him go around EU long paperwork), Pence (called after election to thank, did not mention the late results after election).
– in love with Biden (2 pictures, Jill touched him once …) but does not mention any specific action.
Mentions several episodes when Biden’s team undermined him (agreeing with WHO to give away IP), but no attempt to work with Biden on these …– Kamala is mentioned only in 3rd person (unfortunately, some politicized the vaccine before the election …)
– stories about his Greek Jewish families escaping Shoah
– not only Bourla is Jewish, so is his head of product development (from Sweden), they both hesitated for a moment to use Israel as the test country, thinking that they can be accused of something here …Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> Which Acharonim allowed you to accept or use the non-Jewish cash sent to you by Uncle Sam during the Covid pandemic?
ujm, thanks for giving me an opportunity to review halochos of matonos (that is what it was, right?)
Sources below are from “Halachically speaking” v 16-1 by Kof-K R Moishe Dovid Lebovits. I did not review them yet, feel free to help review them.it is indeed praiseworthy not to accept gifts!
Rambam Hilchos Zichiyah V’matanah 12:17. Brachos 10b Rashi, Maharsha
S’A C.M. 249:5.
one who avoids presents will definitely avoid stealing
one who accepts presents will constantly want money. Furthermore, one will come to flatter those who give him gifts. If one sees a person who gave him gifts doing something wrong, he will not rebuke him.13 In addition, one who receives gifts thinks that he will live off the gifts and neglects to realize that everything is from Hashem
If one receives a present from a non-Jew, the first reason would not apply in this case since one may not flatter a non-Jew, but the others reasons may still apply. Many are lenient and say that it does not apply to a present from a non-Jew.Mishneh Halachos 15:215 If someone is lacking and does not have what to live on, he may accept gifts. This did not apply to me, but did presumably to those who lost jobs. Frankly, all jobs were uncertain at the time.
R Belsky (no specific page given): There is no issue with accepting WIC checks from the government as one pays taxes and this is not considered taking gifts. This should kal vehomer apply to Covid funds to those who pay more taxes than getting back.
OK to accept small gifts (Sifsei Chachamim, Bereishis 12:13, Mishneh Halachos 17:137). These checks were definitely way less that what I sent the government.
some other interesting halochos:
If one who is learning wishes to accept money from his parents in order for him to continue learning, there is no issue of soneh matanos.
Any gift a parent gives to a child is not included in soneh matanos. It is considered a mitzvah since giving gifts to one’s child brings the parent and child closer, positively impacting the child.
Even if a woman is careful and wishes not to accept presents during the year from her husband because she does not want to accustom herself to presents, in honor of Yom Tov she may accept presents
Others mention that when the Yevanim ruled over Eretz Yisrael, learning Torah was not allowed. When Klal Yisrael was victorious over them, the children were given money to entice them to learn. Therefore, the custom evolved to give out money on ChanukahOne is forbidden to give a non-Jew a gift. However, if one will benefit from giving the non-Jew a present, it is permitted. Based on this, it is customary to give one’s mailman a present during the non-Jewish holiday season
Additionally, the poskim say that if one has a personal relationship with the non-Jew he may give him a present even if he will not receive any benefit in return
September 13, 2022 9:06 pm at 9:06 pm in reply to: The Bringing of Meshiach through Sheliach Hakein #2124294Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> We need to think about the economic impact of Mashiach
Have bigger emunah than naarim ketanim who were upset that Elisha cured waters in Yericho and their jobs went away. There will be politicians who will argue that they are the true moschiach party and the blogs with insider information.
September 13, 2022 9:06 pm at 9:06 pm in reply to: Can we have an adult conversation about education? #2124293Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> They didn’t interview a single average chasidishe businessman – that’s where they mostly go. And they’re very, very successful in business. They’re also very creative;
This is true, but both sides – NYT and bloggers lack hard data in support of their position. Say, NYT quotes millions going to schools but do not divide it per student. Arguments here are similar baseless.
Maybe we can try producing some numbers that will show something that all sides can acknowledge?Standardized tests would be one. I don’t buy Avira’s argument about minhag of filling tests randomly. If they knew the material, they would fill it out. But maybe they were studying probability theory…. Some of the schools my kids went did state or private school tests but did not disclose results to parents, maybe others know.
There are also some zip codes that are mostly Jewish. We can look at census data: their average incomes, poverty rates, welfare rates – we would need to correct for age and family size. Anyone wants to start?
Also, a small number of yeshivos (that register as educational like YU?) report federally required data for colleges, here are several numbers – percentage of graduates that earn >= 28K/year 10 years afer, I think. Of course, kollel, motherhood, and undisclosed incomes might have effect, but at least these are known numbers:
for comparison:
COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY IN THE CITY OF NEW YORK 0.877
JOHNS HOPKINS UNIVERSITY 0.897
CUNY BROOKLYN COLLEGE 0.706
CUNY BRONX COMMUNITY COLLEGE 0.613YESHIVA UNIVERSITY 0.798 (500 out of 4,000)
LANDER UNIVERSITY 0.659
TOURO COLLEGE 0.531
BETH MEDRASH GOVOHA OF AMERICA 0.469CENTRAL YESHIVA TOMCHEI TMIMIM LUBAVITZ 0.407
RABBINICAL COLLEGE BOBOVER YESHIVA BNEI ZION 0.33
YESHIVA OF NITRA RABBINICAL COLLEGE 0.274
YESHIVA GEDOLAH IMREI YOSEF D’SPINKA 0.271
RABBINICAL COLLEGE OF OHR SHIMON YISROEL 0.156
YESHIVATH VIZNITZ 0.127 (out of 4,000 total colleges, there are 10 lower than this)Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira,
how many times I need to clarify my question: which acharonim allow using non-Jewish support system for poor people in order to learn – and not just for one person but for whole groups.As to indeed allowed taking of tzedoka, could you quote in more detail – is it for those of exceptional learning or for anyone; is it for those who can easily support themselves.
I really, really have no questions about self-sustaining learning communities, where some people support others who are learning. This may not be as ideal as having everyone learn and earn a little to sustain themselves, the way Chofetz Chaim did, but quite reasonable. Do we have communities like that? I don’t think it is difficult. A small town of Volozhin was able to sustain 400 students by eating days, without asking Czar for funding.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantcommon, as the next generation says: LOL. You are quoting Haaretz to characterize R Burg. Do you have better sources? Who knows what was the story in that gymnasium.
Other quotes about him:
He arranged Jewish prayer services in private homes after German synagogues were burned, and worked underground to help Jews escape to Britain and the Netherlands. His mother and grandmother died in Nazi concentration camps. [1]
Also, Lados group included both Polish diplomats and Agudah people.Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAgree with all of the above. Your spelling is fine – either you know it or have enough seichel to use spell-checker. You just need to work on sentence structure, you seem to be writing the way you talk to a friend who knows what you are talking about. When you read, pay attention to how text is divided in sentences, and punctuation in sentences. A high school or college English textbook could help. There is a classical very thin book by William Strunk “Elements of style” that lists 90% of all possible errors you can ever make. It is a good start.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> Rabbi Goldshmidt is not a govermental appointee and hold no offical position
So he does not have to go back and attend Putin’s funeral? And the other chief rabbis also? Some good news.
September 12, 2022 11:17 pm at 11:17 pm in reply to: Can we have an adult conversation about education? #2123838Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantmaybe we need two threads, one for adult conversation as requested and one for mutual insults.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantDontMind, I am one of those parents … and you can look at threads discussing education, there are a lot of people of all ages with different opinions. Girls (or their parents) are indeed less realistic. My theory is that for a potential learning couple – a boy needs to show years of work, while a girl needs to develop interest in finding a learning boy, which is way easier (in a short term). So, an obvious disconnect, more girls can achieve that stage when taught that way at school.
Not trying to give an advice beyond most generic. Maybe, you need to show your abilities in some other way – in chesed, working prospects .. go join an organization that works with unobservant yidden or sich kids; find an exciting job; brush up on your math & English skills, even if you are behind, you probably have enough skills. You need to define yourself in a positive way, not just in your relationship to what you are not. This may take time.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantMaybe you are looking in wrong places? If potential parties do not like that you dare to behave in a reasonable way, but not to their expectations – this may be a siman that you do not want to be part of that shidduch. Presumably, there is your bashert somewhere that also does what is right without trying to fake her way through, or if not doing it herself, is looking for someone like that.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantHm, what a coincidence – both England and the Colony have both a dour man at the head, supported by a powerless woman with the same name. Except Joe is Jr (2nd) and Charles is the 3rd.
September 11, 2022 11:40 pm at 11:40 pm in reply to: The coffee room is ussor and I’m trying to make sure people chap #2123508Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantbut it may be a treife duck
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantujm, you could find out by a simple “how do you do” when you see her, but you have to ask thru a 3rd person given your stance on talking to women.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantSyag > When anyone who actually understands the value of Torah learning knows that doing it full time, for however long, is a privilege
Look, there are lots of good reasons for someone to sit and only learn and nobody suggested that Vilna Gaon should have been teaching math at Vilna Universitas. But, to the opposite, that someone who actually goes out and fulfils holy mitzvas of having correct measurements; paying workers on time; plowing without kilayim; giving free loans; returning bag left by a customer; putting a fence around the heavy equipment at the factory; leaving correct inheritance to his sons; not plow with an ox and a donkey; keeping your vows (or away from them) – and this is just from the last parsha – so you are saying that a person who expresses himself to these mitzvos is somehow an inferior person, provided he “only” learns 70% of his available time?! This is a huge machlokes even if he is supported by his heilike parents, in laws, and spouse, before we involve an unsuspecting taxpayer.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira > What about just using it for business and not having it at home at all,
I think it is fair if this works for you. I do prefer to work from home as much as I can, so that I can model (hopefully) proper behaviors to kids and also learn with them. And I had to deal with some inappropriate internet usage with older kids, so was thinking for a time to go the way you describe, but it evened out and younger ones do not seem to have these issues, bli ayn hara, maybe because they see the older ones.
The downside of your approach is lack of proficiency in skills that their generation will be using. Internet is not like TV that will quickly go away, it has sufficient positive content. At some point, humanity, and Yidden in particular, will figure out how to filter out the wrong parts. Maybe, we can re-use Chinese firewall software, I hear it works to keep 1 bln people under control ..
So, I don’t want the kids to start typing with one finger when they are 20 and not being able to distinguish between a research paper and a facebook post. So, this is not just part of the mitzva of giving them a job skill, but also of teaching them swimming (in life).
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantHow did we do hashgaha in the old system? All stories about R Zusya and his brother traveling and staying in inns. Presumably, they ate at those inns. Maybe some erliche yidden would like to open restaurants and people who know them from shul will vouch for their honesty with having an yid wasting his time sitting in the corner of the restaurant looking at other people eating?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantR Meir Shapiro and others were elected members in Sejm, not government officials, like CR. In addition to mentioned, R Mordechai Dubin was elected in Latvia. Current chief Rabbis in Russia shows us that decisions are not always easy to make: one abandoned his post and fled, another one still there (I am not sure if these are the only two, maybe there are more). Presumably, each of them have some sevoros to support their opposite course of action. So, if you bump at a Chief Rabbi at Queen’s funeral, please don’t make scene.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantFriday weddings in Europe were out of necessity when people were dirt poor. In bgreek times, we had wedding on odd days to avoid a hegemon crashing the party.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantMy mesorah is herring, shnaps and gemora vort by the bar mitzva. The main place where a bar mitzva boy is discussed in a chumash is ben soreh and moreh. Was he eating at the bar mitzva is not clear.
Weddings and funeral were always going towards more expensive ones, there are lots of takonos in Gemora and later trying to make them less extravagant.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantWe can’t change the tradition unless current IT support is larger in numbers and more knowledgeable than the original ones.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRestaurant business has a very low profit margin and high risk of failure. So, probably, yetzer hara to use something cheaper is very high. Still, how often do we have failures like that? Halakha often uses “rov”, not absolute guarantee. Maybe if you buy 3 chickens from 3 different restaurants and then mix you up, you can go by rov?!
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvram > THE QUESTION WAS BASED ON YOUR FAVORITE RAMBAM, SO WHY WOULD THEY NEED TO REHASH? AND WHY ARE YOU SHOCKED AND SADDENED WHEN SELECTIVELY QUOTING THE RAMBAM IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING?
Vaad statement admits other Chazal say that, but then appeal to Rambam. Direct quote:
>> It is true that Chazal say it is preferable to take any job than to live off of tzedakah; however, the Rambam says that anyone who accepts to spend his days learning Torah should be supported by the public.This may an unfortunate turn of words, but I would expect an esteemed center in the capitol of Jewish learning to be better at quoting sources than a humble internet poster. This is really ironic/sad that it is so hard to find an erliche lomdishe explanation in support of the lomdim .. I admit that internet may not be the best place for this, so I’d love to find good sources to consider serious arguments for either side.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRebE > Chasam Sofer was asked, is it permitted for women to sing in a shul to honor the King
I just read a story in a kosher source about, I think, Austro-Hungarian Queen not King (was there such a thing?) being honored by Jewish girl dancing and a discussion between a general and a Rav who were present. Maybe Chasam Sofer was not the only posek.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantsmerel > government appointed official is no more of an authority on Halacha
indeed, this was the case in Lita under Russia. R Salanter was offered a position leading a Russian school system. He seriously considered accepting it so that he could have some influence, but decided to go other way around so that there will be no confusion between government and real Rabbis. I don’t think, though, that this is a situation in England and the Queen did not select who the Rabbi is. Rather than speculating, I am sure we have some chaps here who can clarify.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant>> THERE ARE PEOPLE WITH STRONG OPINIONS THAT BEINGS “ON THE DOLE”
> People” meaning you? And we don’t live our lives based on omigosh what will the gentiles thinkI do mean Americans. Several acharonim on YD mention hillul Hashem, this seem to take into account what they think. It may be an interesting discussion when we do or not take into account. A famous answer to some European monarch why Jews do not follow majority (of all people) is “only when there is a sofek”.
As to this question, I checked the polls, it seems that about half of Americans are skeptical of public
of public assitance. So, even as overall legal system is a compromise between two sides, there is a large minority that will see unjustifiable use of public assistance as shameful. So do we follow the law as is or do we keep in mind that maybe 4 out of 10 people will see this as Hillul Hashem… When same R Henneman warned people skirting quarantine laws by joining several yards to make a minyan – that someone will not give a ventilator to a Jew in the hospital – he surely did not mean that majority of people will behave this way, just some of them.Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> My point was that $12,000 a year is an insufficient income to raise a family from qualifying for benefits.
My suggestion is for someone to work a little to earn for modest living. According to my shita, one should not then go take benefits. If he legitimately is not able to earn more, then he can do, at least according to R Henneman’s explanation that government assistance is not non-Jewish tzedoka. And we did not factor the wife’s earnings. I am not pushing here for the Ketubot 60s discussion that the father can send kids over 6 y.o. to earn for their upkeep – it is allowed but not recommended.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI was told by someone who was teaching at a modern school, that showing impressive videos of drug abuse did not improve morale but dramatically increased knowledge level of the those students who were not aware before that.
I would suggest modeling positive internet usage before the kids get to their own. They should see you using a big-screen computer in an open space with your screen visible to others; using it to find information, work, access Jewish learning resources. Then, let them help you.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantWould Chief Rabbis have authority in their own right, without being poskim?! They may be right or wrong, they may or not consult poskim, but they have a position of authority to make these decisions and that should be respected, unless they are consistently out of line with halakha.
Also, where do Anglicans stand on the spectrum towards A’Z? I presume way below Roman temples, Catholics and Orthodox. So, the issurim of visiting those places may not be at the most severe level.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantready > How can the woman sleep at night knowing that the feeder is upsetting her neighbor?
that’s the right question!
Gadol > Alternatively, take an Ambien
This is by goyishe law. In Jewish law, as ready says, a person needs to make sure that his action is not bothering someone. See Bava Basra – making sure the bird is beyond 50 amot from the nearest house before taking it; a person with the higher roof needs to build a fence …
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> How can she sleep? Cuz she doesn’t exist!
well, if she does not exist, she can’t sleep either!
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvram > I believe the government money being discussed in Israel referred to funding for schools.
yes, and the argument seems to apply more generally.
> if they went away, things would become much more challenging, but iyH the “system” wouldn’t collapse.
I don’t know what the numbers are, but your argument fits what R Shach is saying in terms of “partially relying”.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantFrom history of welfare assistance, it is a very political argument .. We can say that about half of population wants work requirements for most programs and half does not. So, when using these programs at community level, we definitely annoy about half of the people (several aharonim on YD mention hillul Hashem). Of course, in the states where most Jews live, numbers of people against are less.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvram > [ THAT IS NOT IN THE TIMES OR PLACES WHERE WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR SOCIETY FROM SHMAD AND SUCH]”
That is certainly this time and place.So, maybe this is where the real disagreement lies. Here is my naive view of current Jewish demographics in US:
2/3 are non-observant and assimilated and quickly losing any connection to Yiddishkeit and have a slight chance of being rescued by Chabad on campus or a birthright trip…
remaining consist of
– MO that grows moderately while losing some on the left side to assimilation into liberalism/OO, etc
– non-MO that grows fast, with some moving closer to MO when going to work/college.so, this last group does not experience much assimilation, unless you count any shift towards work as a first step in sliding down. I don’t think it is. People with now 3 generations of yeshiva education are not marrying shiksas if they enroll in Columbia. At worst, they get some modernishe religious views. The worst of that is also preventable, as people here referred to Landers as an alternative to YU; and to Baltimore.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantFor fun, I looked up TX SNAP rules. I don’t think federal rules are different, but the state page sounds totally different from IL. In IL it is all about – come get this.
In TX it says – somehow twice! – Most people ages 16 to 59 must follow work rules to get SNAP benefits. Work rules mean a person must look for a job or be in an approved work program. If the person has a job, they can’t quit without a good reason.
I can’t find information about children, although it is hinted in this stern announcement: Most adults ages 18 to 49 with no children in their home can get SNAP for only three months in a three-year period. The benefit period might be longer if the person works at least 20 hours a week or is in a job or training program. Some adults might not have to work to get benefits, such as those who have a disability or are pregnant.
This just shows how varying attitudes might be between states.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvram > We’re not discussing relying on people, but on government programs that the citizens pay into with their taxes. You should avoid utilizing public roads,
Right, this might be a reasonable position (Obama used it against Romney – “you did not build that, we did”). Maybe this is what R Henneman means when saying “they dont do it for tzdokah”.
a) are there sources making this argument explicitly?
b) what would be included in Sh’A definition beyond “tzedokah”
c) would the resolution depend on time and place? There are people with strong opinions that beings “on the dole” while able to work is shameful and there are those who want to make everyone comfortable … I guess, state laws will reflect majority attitude and you need to read those carefully. So, halocha for TX and CA will be different.Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvram > As far as your assertion that you can go against the modern poskim with the Rambam because the Lakewood vaad itself cited the Rambam – do you realize that the vaad specifically cited the Rambam there as a rebuke to those who abuse the Rambam to hate on full-time Torah learning?
I am not sure what Vaad had in mind. I was shocked, shocked, and saddened, that Vaad could quote Rambam selectively. Maybe the question mentioned the other Rambam and it got edited out, or they presume that everyone knows the other Rambam. As it is, it looks like a selective argument. This is coming from an organization that is there to solve business disputes…
What do you think about it? Do you have a better explanation? Maybe someone should ask them about. It would be good to have a more lomdishe explanation from them.Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvram > You are coming from a starting point that does not seem to be Torah based, in fact acknowledged with, “[m]aybe I am biased by Republican thinking.”
This is an important point. I understand your feelings but not your logic. It just seems that certain cultural and historical trends became so entrenched that there is internalization that this is the only Torah and defensive reaction to that. It is a reasonable reaction, and we had similar reactions in history. For example, we found ways to distance from religions that use our books…
It _seems_ to me that the community went too much in this direction, well past the time of danger we were protecting from. And that is why I am pondering this. I am not 100% sure that this is right. That is, if I were a Lakewood parnas, I would not start introducing math classes into BMG, but I would go discuss this and maybe do experiments. And as it unfortunately happens in online forums, discussing a position unfortunately leads to making and taking shots. I am trying to be impartial, but maybe I failed, To clarify, I am not claiming any facts, for example, that kollel members collect welfare. I am just saying that – as a matter of Jewish attitude – they should not. If someone says to me that they usually don’t, I’ll be happy to hear that.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvram > $12,000 per year is below the poverty line for even a single person.
Whose poverty line? You don’t think this is sufficient for a person who wants to learn. And we presume here that the wife volunteers to agree to that lifestyle and even works.
The wife is entitled to the maximal of his and her family lifestyles. So, if he marries someone from the same learning background, then he does not need to spend too much on her and can even learn this way even if the wife is not fully happy (agreement is preferred, of course).
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantSyag, as an OT, what issues do you see with pepole overusing computers?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantA yeshiva in LA that has bochrim enrolled in a public online school has 2 floors: learning floor is device free, the “general studies” floor has laptops to use for a couple of hours a day.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantsyag > glimmers of potential developmental damage
I agree with that, but one should also look at developmental advantages. It is still an open question which one prevails, and depends on how family handle devices and life in general. I am all for careful approach to new things, but I am sure people complained that because of the evil cars, people will forget how to feed horses, and phones will stop people from writing letters, etc.
On the damage side, there are approaches to manage – have devices in public room, defined time access, etc. On the advantage: if kids see parents using devices responsibly: for work, comms, learning, YWN :), you can expect them to do the same eventually.
In my humble experience, trying to fight inappropriate behaviors with early teens is a losing battle – smart kids can break through any filters you can create and they have more time on their hands than I do … But once they started using everything constructively, things turned. No need to teach kids chores – I can just ask them to google how to use the vacuum.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantBenephraim > social science
Exactly, this is an even better example than medicine. Lots of gemorot list implicitly reasons for takonot – how people are expected to behave, and then sometimes change them when behaviors change.
From recent kutobos:
– a man needs to get some benefit from the wife during marriage so that he’ll feel up to redeeming the wife if she is captured. He does not need that for the daughter, as any father will surely redeem the daughter.
– a widow does not get married while she is nursing. If she becomes pregnant, she might lose milk, and we presume that the new husband will not extend enough effort to keep the kid alive/healthy.
– if a kid dies, maybe we still stop her from marrying? Why? Because if we don’t, what if a woman kills the kid in order to get married ASAP?! In fact, there was one that did exactly that. Resolution: that woman was crazy, normal women will not do that.So, most of that is being updated over time with changing social conditions. In fact, a lot of discussions in CR is about that, see college discussions.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira,
in US, you can say a brocha on the President or a Governor, probably bli shem.what is interesting to contemplate – during American revolution, UK was the biggest enemy, now US and UK (and other former British subjects) are closest partners. Sometimes, people fight those who are closest to them … We can learn from that.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> Why is the wife of a King called Queen, but the husband of a Queen is a prince?
there are 2 different systems: just one person being a king or queen (including British) or the one where both have Royal powers (as in fairtales)
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantApparently 20% of 3rd candidate (R) did not mark up anyone as ranked choice, presumably some because they did not like Palin, and some because they did not get how this works.
Also, were the other R finished second, he would have been more likely to beat the D due to less empty protest votes.
Australians point out that their system is slightly different:
– you have to have a 2nd choice. Not sure this will be popular in US where you don’t force people to vote even for the first choice!
– only one candidate per party is allowed into the finals. This will help for some time, until parties subdivide.My suggestion: to use candidate agreements instead of voter rankings, the way Israelis divide partial knesset seats. That is, candidate themselves decide who is most similar to them and gives them the votes he “earned”.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantSo it sounds while the question itself is hard to answer, there are several groups that might have an easier path:
– women, who have no chiyuv in learning Torah
– Sephardim, who would not follow Rema
– those who mastered halochos and are ready for Philosophy/Astronomy/Kaballah, following Shach.The rest of us might not be ready for an Aristotle Yomi class.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRebE > The culture has changed so going to college currently became more dangerous than when going in my time but there is also Touro and online education available.
Right. To “more dangerous”, I think the danger reached a peak maybe 20-30 years ago with some decline lately, as you are saying – with increasing college option that do not focus on “college experience”. College went thru same transformation as air travel: people used to put on their “shabbos clothes” so to speak going to the plane, now they dress like they are in their bedroom.
when evaluating dangers, one should look at the recent experiences in similar circumstances: kids coming from same community and school; same type of college – local/campus, off/online, Ivy/technical/Jewish, technical v. humanity major, etc. Results seem to vary a lot based on these factors.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRebE, right, but still as Avira says, most say that, given that we have Torah, we do not need to rely so much on science to get to know Hashem.
But what would you say – if Rambam were to live now, would he still copy his astronomy from Aristotle, or would he first look at recent science? And if yes, would he go to Princeton, or would he just read up Richard Feinman’s multi-volume physics on his own? Or would he read this thread and say – no, I’ll stick with sefer hamitzvos.
PS interesting details: Rambam was in Fes when the best science was in the Medrasa there (some call it first university, before French and English). One presumably had to be Muslim to attend though, and Rambam was accused in Egypt that he used to be a Muslim, but was acquitted.
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