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OdAmiChay: You cannot compare suits pants with a Tallis. A wrinkled suit pants one will not wear for shabbos. A tallis, everyone wears even it is wrinkled. The perfect proof, when was the last time you laundered your tallis? Me, over 10 years ago!
My rosh yeshiva said it’s not a problem. There is no hachana since you are not using after shabbos and there is no mesakain.
Folding on a crease it mutter and I do it every shabbos.
What about overpopulation?
The Litvishe Kiryas Yoelite: and men?
Chassidish–I prefer 11:00AM:)
HaKatan: Can you please list off the MANY gedolim that state that it is yehareig ViAl yaavor to join the IDF? Do not include Satmar or Neutra Karta.
Health: I have to disagree because I do not think they are religious enough to take g-d into consideration. To them its a “natural” think so why restrict it. One can make the same argument with polygamy, so why do they outlaw it?
I just read something interesting: In countries where polygamy is legal, marriage for gays is illegal. In countries where same-sex marriage is legal, polygamy is illegal.
I wonder why this is so? I am not looking at this from a Torah perspective. But for people who state the same gender marriage should be allowed because of love and freedom of choice, why would they prohibit polygamy?
Hmm, so a Ski cap is a sign of respect? Or are you just saying BLACK hats are a sign of respect and if you wear blue, or gray it must be taken off?
Should one take off his hat while davvening? It looks like he is about to run out of shul??
Talmud: If I remember correctly, Daf Nun or Nun Aleph, when it talks about different planets. Og, and he writes there are beings that have no nose, just two holes in their face….reminded me of Martians!!!!
Better question, I see a lot pf BOYS wearing Yankee T-Shirts etc. during Bain Hazmonim, is that Tznius?
Which is preferred, if you have to pick one..Yankees or Tzahal?
Why is it the OP’s who have issues with the way girls dress are always men who try to impose their logic in the situation. You never know, soon we will have people suggesting the way Yeshiva Boys wear their hats look goyish.
The Me’am Loez on Parshes Berashis talks about Aliens. He writes that there are aliens with a human head and horse body; like a Centaurs. He also writes there are planets where there are very handsome people, but they cannot grow food. They come to this world to eat people! Speaking of Alien Abduction!
MDG: Now that is one way to resolve the shidduch crises.
Dos Yaochid: Yes, but you should remember the medroashim that all the Avos had to davven for kids. The chumish clearly states that they were an “Akarah” (barren without children). Sarah gave Hager to Avroham as a wife. Yitzchok & Rivka davvened in seperate corners. Rochel tells Yaakov that she like a dead person if he does not give her kids.
Hmm, I just wonder if these emaous were around today will this potential mother in law reject them?
This girl is only a safek, and not even that! The fact that she was born with assistance shows her mother did have children. Don’t forget, males also contribute to this issue. I would suggest thatthe girl request that this boy undergo testing to show he can provide children. Just to be sure.
It’s funny how frum people talk the talk, but don’t walk the walk. We all say bitachon, and Emunaha which seems to apply to every situation besides oneself. All I can say is B’H the avos were not born in our generation since Sarah, Rivka and Rochel all had fertility issues. I wonder who would marry them all their children.
We like to shop at Shoprite since when they have sales they really have great prices. I know this is blasphemy, but if you clip coupons and go to ShopRite on weeks they either double or triple your coupon value then you really save a lot of money. I hung a receipt from Shoprite that showed my wife spent $140 and after the sales and coupons it went down to $60. We also call the manufacturer and tell them we love their products and they also send high value coupons.
Kosher stuff, like chicken and meats are cheaper in Kosher Stores, except when Costco puts their chicken on sale for $1.29Lb.
The key is only shop for sales and stock up. Also always make a list what you need and NEVER deviate from it.
I don’t know why everyone thinks 7 months is too early to sleep through the night. My children, who were all nursed, slept through the night at 6 months and slept from 12:00AM-5:00am by 3 months. It’s a matter of training them.
Health & Hakatan- I had a nice winded response which it seems the mods will not post because they are afraid to show I am right:)Oh well, have a good shabbos.
I just find it funny how everyone knocks MO and now decides to call Jack Lew an Orthodox jew where he will follow the haclacha of the Yeshiva world. Jack Lew davvens at Beth Sholom Congregation and Talmud Torah (BSCTT) which is a Modern Orthodox synagogue on Seven Locks Road in Potomac, Maryland. It is led by Rabbi Joel Tessler and assistant Rabbi Nissan Antine.
For the past few days people have been arguing that MO violates halacha time and time again, but now you decide differently?
Jack Lew will do whatever his Rabbonim tell him, not what YOUR rabbnim say. If he works on Shabbos, I am sure his Rabbi provided him the guidelines when it is necessary to work.
avhaben: And the rabbonim used Moreah Nevuchim as foot stools and put the Rambom is chayrum. Interesting how now we respect him.
Thehock: The Ferber method lets the baby cry; I do not. I have a hybrid of the Ferber Method and “The Baby Whisperer” (a great book for new parents). For example, I do not rock or shake when putting the baby to sleep since this will cause a “crutch” that the baby will expect every time. When you stop, it’ll start crying. I let the baby cry for short periods and then console them but increase the response time going on.
Interesting tidbit….most NON western countries, babies have skin to skin contact with the mother for 90% of the time until 1.5 years old. The average baby cries in non western countries is 10 seconds per hour! Wow!
not say anything about homosexuality (if I remember the meforshim correctly).
So far it seems I am proving you case after case where YU has made a kiddish hashem, while Touro made no public statement condemning homosexuality.
Health: The same situation that makes Toruo an oiness applies to YU. The problem you have is that you do not differentiate the Yeshiva from College. These are TWO distinct departments, which the Yeshiva cannot control. The rabbonim are against the gay clubs, but are powerless. Touro is a Maizid since they knew before acquiring other schools what this will entail especially since YU went thought it. You cannot takeover a goyish college and then try to ban their clubs, and they knew that since YU had the same issue. The bottom line is, Touro is a maizid since they cannot use the excuse, we did not know. They should have lost money and not acquire any college that cannot be run under Jewish Law.
I am also surprised you would eat the any food that has an OU since it is run by alumina of YU. Rabbi Menachem Genack- CEO OU Kosher and Rabbinic Administrator, and other rabbonim received their smicha from YU.
Patri: I think you misunderstood the Gemorah in Sanhadrin. There was clothing that was specifically for Jews; it was a yellow badge, long undergarments, or wear clothing that were black or dark blue color; and all this was not in the time of Shmad that the goyim instituted to keep Jews separate ( a broacha in disguise). Under Muslim rule, women had to wear a black and a red shoe, and each woman had to have a small brass bell on her neck or shoe. These all became distinctive Jewish clothing over time, like the shtraimel today. In the time of Shmad, even these clothing one cannot change once they become a levush of a Jew. The Rambam (Hilchos Avodah Zarah 11:1): specifically states that the clothing referred to in the gemorah are clothing specifically for goyim; like you had in the olden days. Today, where there is no real distinction between a Jews clothing and a Goy (I am not talking about rednecks or bikers guys), I do not think you can argue, based on that gemorah, that there is no issur of dressing fashionably. Maybe be a waste of money and an issur of Baal Tashchus of well earned money:)
147: There is this crazy invention called Soy Milk, or black coffee (that means coffee without milk..crazy…I know) so no waiting is required. Check it out:)
loca: Your right, there is no need to go out, but when you have older kids it’s nice to have “alone” time without people interfering with questions, concerns etc. And yes, we tried “Please do not disturb”, but that did not seem to work 🙂
The purpose of the date is not just about quality time together, but an excuse to NOT sit in sweatpants, but put some effort into the other person; which I feel some of us forgot how to do over the years. But hey, to each their own. What works for me, might not work for you. It’s up to you to find your sweet spot or you can always listen to the OP and find a counseler to help out your marriage. I prefer my way, some prefer counseling.
Hakatan:
shmoel: You continually ignore that Touro has the same clubs and funds them.
HaKatan: To you and others it might be a halachic issue, but to others it is a Hashkafa issue. What you wrote about has nothing to do with a violation. Someone looked like they were going to fall on top of somone. Do you think Bais Din would convict someone for “looking like”, especially when you are looking at a 2 dimensional image?
Patri: As a follow up, if you need to read YU content, please visit http://www.yutorah.org/index.cfm which is run my Rabbonim and not college kids.
Patri: Sorry, I have never read the YU Beacon, but I am surpised you have. Do you usally read magazines that write about znus? Can I interest you in a R’Chaim instead? I think R’Chaim is a lot more interesting and challenging.
Hakatan: I think Matan1 stated HALACHIK standards. Yes, while you may feel having opposite genders sitting around the table is not up to your Standards and the Yeshiva standards, it in no way reflects any halachik standards that are inferior. Halachikly, there is no issue. Our Gedolim went to weddings with mixed genders where everyone is dressed up, here in a college environment, I would have to assume it is much better. In addition, while the Yated and Hamodea might not give reviews on Pubs, again, halachiklly there is no issue.
I also think the whole tznius conversation is a mute point to make since tznius is not a way of dress which a lot of people are mistakenly assume. Tznius is a way of life which incorporates attitude, dress, conversations etc in any given society. For example, go to Yemen and your wife, daughter or mother would be considered untznius in the Jewish community. You can argue about your Rosh Yeshivous and Gedolim say they are tzniusdik, but to them, you are not tznius and they would probably not marry into your family for being MO. Or closer to home, if your wife does not wear a hat on top of her shaitel, she is untzneus according to the Munkatch Chassdism.
So while you might not agree with the YU/MO derech, it is a halachiklly permitted derech. True, it is not the Yeshiva Derech, but it is nonetheless a derech to Hashem.
You also do not need to rehash other CR topics. The point is Touro has a club that is not condoned by the Gedolim.
shmoel: You might have missing my other post, so here goes..
A college can not discriminate and must accept everyone. Even Touro Hakodosh has a Toeva club…. I wonder if Rabbonim will come out against Touro.
http://www.touro.edu/EDGRAD/EAC/otherareas/bh_sept28_packet_need_for_LGBTO_youth.asp
And Touro even funds these groups:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touro_University_Gay%E2%80%93Straight_Alliance. (I know wiki is not a good source, but the actual sources are listed on bottom of the page).
SO I guess now people should consider Touro without a Bais Medrish or YU that has a Bais Medrish. Since they both fund all types of clubs.
Health & Shmoel: A college can not discriminate and must accept everyone. Even Touro Hakodosh has a Toeva club…. I wonder if Rabbonim will come out against Touro.
http://www.touro.edu/EDGRAD/EAC/otherareas/bh_sept28_packet_need_for_LGBTO_youth.asp
And Touro even funds these groups:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touro_University_Gay%E2%80%93Straight_Alliance
Popa: By the time you go to Graduate school, you should already have your own Administrative Assistant 🙂 Actually, my grad school graded our papers on content, writing style, use of language and brevity.
Health- Again, just because I do not respect Touro does not mean I hate it. Just because I disagree with them does not make me hate them! The OP was looking for information from people which I responded with my own experiences. If the OP wanted propaganda, I am sure they are capable of clicking on Touro.edu. So yes, I informed the OP of my experiences. Speaking of yeshiva and Halacha, please learn Hilchos Loshan Horah before deciding to throw the word around.
Are you sure you are an adult? They way you perceive college and women is more expected from a yeshiva boy still in high school.
Health: Please do not confuse respect with Hate. I don’t care enough about Touro to even put forth any hate emotions. I am stating my experience and as it indicates, I do not respect it. However, B’h it’s LH and not Mozyzi Shem Rah, cause that would mean I also lied. And yes, I went to the one on Ave J and probably knew about 50% of the guys. I stand by what I said.
Also, the same halacha issues you have in coed schools you have working. I can’t fathom what halacha issues you are referring to, but I realize it’s never to late to create a new chumrah.
What college have you went to where they had class on shabbos?!! I went to undergad and grad school and NEVER had a class or exam on shabbos!! You either take weekday classes, night classes or weekend classes. If you are not signed up for a weekend class, you NEVER have class on shabbos. As far as Yom Tov, why is it any different than anything else in life. Yes, you can take off, but you are still responsible for what happens! Do you use that excuse at work? “Sorry, I was off for my holiday so I missed the deadline.” No, you get the work done before Yom Tov starts and follow up after Yom Tov.
The only “maileah” Touro had was it did not require SAT’s. I am forever grateful for that 🙂
nishtdayngesheft: As I stated, I have attended Touro college on Ave J so your analogy does not fit.
Guess what? I did not attend an Ivy League college and I make above the Mid Career Salaries listed for Ivy League. However, the statement remains accurate that in general, Ivy League graduates will make more than Touro. I don’t see why people feel otherwise or get upset with that statement.
Greatest: Obviously, you can not comprehend what I am asking you for the fifth time so forget it. Enjoy your Touro Education, for everyone else, look else where. This is exactly what I referred to when I said Touro is another 4 years of High School where people insult and speak to one another in condescending tone of voice. Thanks for proving my point.
plonis3141: I agree it is silly to compare since there is no comparison. All I am doing is enlightening some people whose misconception that Touro’s salary potential is greater than Ivy League. As a frum person, I felt compelled to stand for truth and thus the conversation. You are correct, that people pick Touro because of the environment, as Akuperma nicely put it.
Greatest: I’m also sorry that I cannot stoop do your level of intelligence to debate without insulting; my sincere apologies. However, next time please do not state anything that cannot be independently verified. I am assuming you do know what copyright laws actually entail? Please review the Fair Use Rule before commenting further how you are being a good citizen.
akuperma: Nicely summed up.
In addition, I never stated I hated Touro. The OP asked information on Touro which I responded to 1) higher tuition, 2) Ranked 104 compared to other in state colleges, and 3) its high school. As I stated, if you liked High School, you enjoyed Touro. The long winded post was to provide the OP a detailed listing of how the colleges rank and I took your advice and included the Mid Career Salary below; which still shows that Ivy League Schools outrank Touro in Salary. This is all for Undergrad!
Greatest: Can you please enlighten this forum which Ivy League school graduate earns less than a Touro Graduate?
Here are the Mid Career Salaries from Payscale (http://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report-2013/full-list-of-schools)
Brown University=$109K
Columbia University=$105k
Cornell=#102K
Dartmouth College=$111K
Harvard University=$111
Princeton University=$137
University of Pennsylvania=$102K
Yale University=$105K
The only interesting thing to note your condescending tone when people disagree with you, a quality you must have picked up in your education. True, maybe my education is not up to par as yours, however, I did learn to provide sources from all my statements which I have done and not just quoted garbage and have people assume it is fact. If you feel my statements are incorrect, please be a mentch and show me your source so I do not have to rely on Google to provide me with it. Is it that difficult to copy and paste a link? If you need assistance in that area, please let me know so I can show you how to properly right click on your mouse.