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A friend of mine was called up for info about a boy & the mother asked him
very weird questions, one of them was the following…
“If he were an animal, what type of animal would he be?”
My friend was very freaked out & warned the guy about this crazy potential Shiviger!
Joseph: I assume so, will do more research & ask my elders.
areivimzehlazeh: would they stand a greater chance I dont think so,
this is not about standing a gr8er chance it’s about what is more suitable for him.
are we trying to sneak in girls that aren’t a good match just to try & solve the shidduch crises?
BasYisroel2: please don’t take this the wrong way, but what you said is ridiculous!!!
What the shaddchan is supposed to do, is instead of rolling down a list 1st,
is to ask what type of girl is your son looking for? Not too loud not too quiet?
then on his list should omit from metioning girls A & C & redt Girl B.
Although this is more Mentchlich, it has the same outcome as mentioning a few girls,
then comparing which one is more his type. The Point isn’t to get redt to alot of ppl but to get redt to the right type for you.
I understand it hurts & I feel for these girls, but why not spare these girls, (who have ahard enough time as it is) from getting turned down from the ones that werent their type from the get go.
oomis1105: right on point!
However BasYisroel2 I still think the proper way is what i wrote u on lines 3 & 4.
As Nobody stated, However there is more to this than what is commonly known.
which is attributed to Kabbalistic sources.
Although it is of a controversial nature, So I’ll steer clear.
spaghetti
Pronunciation: Spa.get.tea
Definition: The fancy tea they serve in upscale NYC spas.
As many before have said try a few times, if you get the same
attitude, Something is fishy…or crumby…(or corny!) 🙂
cholentkugelkishke: There is a way to protest!
A protest does not have to look like they opened all the cages in bronx zoo
& let the chayos roam free, we are not Goyim & we Shouldn’t act like them!!!
here are some funny ones;
Silence is golden but duck tape is silver.
Love is blind; marriage is the eye-opener.
-Pauline Thomason
Don’t question G-D, as he may say, if you are so eager for answers,
then please come up.
the following is soo true!
The chances of bread falling buttered side down
is directly proportional to the cost of the carpet!
Big Chilul Shomayim, It is never ok to act like Vilde Chayos!!
Are the gedolim responsible for every Meshugana in the world?
NO!! Some things are just common sense, not to behave that way!
Every protest we have against wrongdoing,thats done in masses &
organized/calm like Mentchsen is a kiddush Shomayim!
L’olam Y’hei Odom!
the opposite is Farkert H”Y.
After reading some of the posts here, I reconsidered,
wont touch this thread with a ten foot pole!
da: I have some ideas, but it depend how desperate you are,
they are in order of desperation.
1)Soak them in Batampte pickle juice (unless you like pickles)
2)put black tar under them (everytime you wanna bite.. you wont)
3)wear an swine flu mask (they come in many pleasant colors)
4)tape lollipops to each finger,(I would stick to same color)
5)when your Fleishig, coat then in cream cheese (vegetable seem to work better)
& when your milchig dip them in chicken fat (healthier?)
6)Introduce them to fungus, (I dont think you’ll ever want to bite them again)
If chazal say that after ten years of being married to a women w/o kids,
they should leave her, & try s/o else, & sholom bayis is very important for us
(as it says by sotah HB”H is willing to let his name be erased for sholom bayis)
& still chazal say should try s/o else.. that shows you one has to go pretty far!
muchcommonsense: try Chicken ala BBQ, It’s very easy really,
just take Chicken & put in on the BBQ.
da: you seriously have to turn up the volume on ur pc!
Did you not hear the sarcasm in my voice?
WolfishMusings:1st of all I wish u & family Archas yomim V’shonim!
If you give it as a Matana B’chaim, like setting up an account
now in ur daughters name thats already hers (but she doesnt know about it)
(same for your wife) I don’t see the problem.
Then a person can be modiah them in Tzavoho about what
was already theirs years befor altz a matana, not a Yerusha.
(ppl don’t attack me if i’m wrong just show me a source)
gut yom tov! 🙂
Feif Un: good point, very true.
cantoresq: hold on the line….
Nobody:
when u wrote “I must confess it doesn’t carry the same weight..
were you referring to the quality of the shiur, or the way the
person is perceived?
young: it is usually very hard to find out,
one need a lot of Siyata Dishmaya & tefillah for this.
I once heard that there are three side to the story.
1)his side
2)her side
3)the truth
Hatzlacha!
Middos are of the utmost importance, & sometimes you have someone who is
learning full time & does not have good middos.
Derech Eretz (middos) Kodmah Latorah!
If he werent interested in being koveah itim, I understand,
but if he wants to be koveah itim (for real), what’s the problem?
If he supports talmidei chachamim he has an equal share in their Torah.
not everybody is cut out to learn full time.
& if they aren’t, it’s much better for them to be working.
BasYisroel2: I’m not sure that’s the reason (though it makes sense)
for isn’t this practice going on for a long time,
(maybe before this 3 girls to 1 boy ratio)
Are you saying throughout history boys have been getting more offers
than girls? could be, I’m not sure.
Anyhow BasYisroel2; about your comment “I know personally ..boy gives yes 2 girl, while girl checking boy, boy busy lookin in2 other girls so he has “backup””
I dont see whats wrong with that, He is not dating the other girl,
just looking into her (usually his mother) so if current girl says no
he doesn’t have to start the whole process over, & knows which ones are nogeah
& gives an answer to the Shadchan.
what if he was redt 2 girls at the same time & the second one was his Bashert,
now after waiting a week to get a No from Girl#1,(not looking into other)
meanwhile Girl#2 gets redt to someone else, he could technically lose
his bashert! Yes the Gemara & Halacha talks alot about “Shema Ykadmenu Achar!”
Translation, For, perhaps someone will beat him to it.
Joseph: yes, It’s also more mentchlich that way,
It’s not Geshmak for a guy to get turned down either,
but maybe it balances out for his ego knowing he got
Kedimah. He could’ve said no first! 🙂
sorry guys I poke fun at myself too with this!
“so we can go into Tishah B’av with the proper understanding & feeling.”
-bein_hasdorim
Dear ambush: very well said,
but it’s not just about what we lost & the tzar that we are suffering,
it’s also about where we went wrong, & what we have to correct,
that is why we are still here in Golus.
May we be Zoche that this coming Tisha B’av, be turned from Aivel
to a Yom Tov with the Geulah Shleima! Omein!
You May Be One Person To The World
But You May Be The World To One Person.
Things turn out best for those
who make the best of the way things turn out.
-Jack Buck
We do not quit playing because we grow old,
we grow old because we quit playing.
-Oliver Wendell Holme
Wise people are foolish if they cannot adapt to foolish people.
-Michel Eyquem De Montaigne
Committing a great truth to memory is admirable;
committing it to life is wisdom.
-William A. Ward
The only man I know who behaves sensibly is my tailor;
he takes my measurements anew each time he sees me.
The rest go on with their old measurements and expect me to fit them.
-George Bernard Shaw
Don’t walk in front of me, I may not follow;
Don’t walk behind me, I may not lead;
Walk beside me, and just be my friend.
-Albert Camus (not Uncle Moishe)
cantoresq: c’mon nobody said The torah taught by a casually dressed is percieved as less worthy, the torah if it is Toras Emes, it is Toras Emes!
It’s just sad that the man himself would choose to not dress respectably
thus taking away from the kavod hatorah that would be bestowed upon him
had he chosen to dress accordingly.
(This is all in general, I’m not talking about a specific case)
I’m not saying what the proper garb is.
I’m talking respectable,
Like wearing shorts, 2 give a Shiur, on shabbos in shul
would be a disgrace in my opinion.
da: are you poking humor at the A cappella style tapes?
young: If you don’t mind, looking in to him & finding out nice things about him,
giving a yes to the Shadchan & then maybe receiving a no from the boys side.
Then go ahead! There’s nothing wrong with it. Just girls don’t want to
spend time finding out info, getting excited, & then being let down.
That’s why the boy usually looks into the girl first,
if he’s interested gives an answer so the ball’s
in the girl’s court & she gets to decide if she’s interested too,
w/o a chance of being turned down.
I feel parents aren’t close enough with their kids
these days, prob due to busy schedules, cellphone mania,
technology & the gap between parents who arent fluent
with the tech, feel they can’t relate to their kids.
Perhaps they don’t spend good quality/fun time w/ kids
instead letting them surf/text/eatout all the time
go out all the time,
& they don’t pay attention to bad influences,bad friends etc..
& sometimes they are clueless!
these changes don’t happen overnight.
However, maybe this is just my opinion.
So.. you’re for abortion,
but against killing terrorists?
I want YOU
to speak ENGLISH
(with a picture of uncle sam pointing)
If I passed you on the right
your’e in the wrong lane!
The Closer You Get
The Slower I’ll Drive
by reading this
you wave your rights to sue me
REPUBLICAN
because not everyone can be on welfare
Somewhere in Kenya
hides Obama’s true
BIRTH CERTIFICATE
The Second Amendment
The Original Homeland Security
FREEDOM
born july 4, 1776
died november 4, 2008
So, how’s that
“hope” & “change”
workin out for you?
mepal: good ones!
thanks for that, Burt Prelutsky comment!
feivel: 🙂 Why dont you star a Niflaos Haboreh/National Geographics thread?
Feif Un: Wow Thanks soo much!! You Mamish saved me the trouble of
posting a ridiculously long post, covering all the stuff you did.
I didn’t know Rav Belsky mentioned the same thing that has been
bothering me for years.
Everything that is Assur, Today we have to find a way around it.
A cappella Definition see wikipedia below —->
A cappella (Italian[1] for From the chapel/choir) music is vocal music
or singing without instrumental accompaniment,
besides, I find it more relaxing to listen to a choir/vocals
than a bunch of pathetic attempts at beatboxing/trumpets/weird sounds
it sounds like a bunch of “Meidlach!”
It’s not cool!
SJSinNYC:
The “Only Way” one can fly in an airplane on Shabbos is the following;
1) If you get on the plane before Shabbos
2) you have to make sure you are “Wearing The Seat Belt The Whole Flight!”
Then it is Permissable, for it is considered a “MALBUSH”
(as if you are wearing the airplane!) 🙂
tzippi: I was merely replying to a scenario that Kapusta had put forth.
I”m not saying out of town areas dress in chinos, sandals, etc..
However in a case where a black hatter, dark suited, guy would feel out of place
this where the question comes in play, & I answered accordingly.
Tzippi, out of town is not limited just to Monsey,
you probably haven’t been around.
there are many places, where a guest would find himself
the only hat in the shul. (not including caps)
One shul I was at, was looking for a Rabbi/Bal koreh/Bal Tefillah…
I looked like a suitable Rabbi for them!
& I dont look like a Rabbi!!!
SJSinNYC: about the spinoff, 🙂
I must try 2 avoid any heated discussions during the 3 weeks.
kapusta: Good question!…..
But It really boils down to If one dresses with a black hat etc.. as you say,
does he/she have to dress down if hes in a outta town community
to not be Poiresh Min Hatzibur?
The answer is No. This is mentioned right away in Shulchan Aruch/Mishna Berurah,
“Vloy Yisbayesh Mipnei Bnei Adam Hamaligim Olov Bavoidas Hashem”
for when it comes to Ruchnius If one is on a certain level
& dresses a certain way with Ehrlichkeit he should not
be discouraged by what ppl think.
Secondly the outta towners know there are ppl who dress this way
its not like he tailored himself a neon green Beketcha!
Thirdly there is a klal Maalim Bakoidesh,
Which translates to, in things that are Holy we go up, not down.
I heard once heard a story that a chassid who wore a Shtreimel
became a Chabbad Chossid & wanted to start wearing a benddown hat
to fit in there. & the Lubavitcher Rebbe Z”L Said he should continue
wearing the Shtreimel Altz, “Maalim Bakoidesh”
(I can’t confirm if the story is true)
However I was trying to bring out a point.
squeak:
I still have my stash left over from Shalach Manos.
Arent men allowed to enjoy liquor in their coffee?
My “Guy Manual” got lost in the mail.
I guess I should’ve shelled out the extra $$
& used fedex instead of snail mail!
thanks! feivel,
We should have a post for the three weeks leading up to Tishah B’av
to inspire us with stories of ahavas yisroel & the Churban
& medrashim, to get us prepared so we can go into Tishah B’av
with the proper understanding & feeling.
jewfem02: doing chessed like this is one of the thing that
make Klal Yisroel so wonderful.
I just wanted to point out that although doing chessed when one
has time on their hands is very wonderful, however when one has
to attend to his own needs & still puts another yid first,
& doesn’t get nervous or frustrated when it cuts into his time,
& doesn’t regret offering the help they did.
This is called Super Chessed! I cannot begin to describe how
Chashuv this is in the Eyes of HB”H.
The S’char,(reward) for this Mitzvah of Chesed is truly Astounding.
For many of these times the Yetzer gets the better of us & we start
to get frustrated if we have to be somewhere
& it takes longer than expected.
To answer the original question, If it’s in ruchnius,
I think the parents have a right to object,
& the child should respect their wishes.
However if it’s in Gashmiyus, & or Shtusim, then the child
has no obligation to listen & should RESPECTFULLY do what
he feels is right.
One should tell them respecfully, that ultimately he/her is the on who will
live with her/him & it’s his choice.
Unless (in my humble opinion) he is Somuch Al Shulchan Oviv,
then if they support him/her they should have a say.
This is great news! Perhaps this will have an effect on overall
ticket prices to Israel, using priceline for instance with a connection
in U.K. & also spark competition with other carriers.
I hope they succeed & general costs start going down.
ishman: sorry i guess i missed ur post.
SJSinNYC: If you were stranded alone on an island,
& had ur finest clothes with u Kavod Shabbos would require
u 2 don them on Shabbos.
The point however about neighbors / community,
that is not nogeah here, however it would be in the best interest of any
person in any community to wear clothes similar to his community
1)Not 2 b Oiver Al Tifroish Min Hatzibur.
2)So as to not be an outcast, or looked upon as weird. (bringing hardship on oneself)
3)Not to give shallow judgemental people a Nisayon.
#3 might be up for discussion
Nobody: search old thread bout your earlier inquiry bout too much coffee. 🙂
My Secret to a great coffee is
1) At least 2-3 tablespoons coffee (it has to be strong)
2) I usually mix 2 even 3 favorite brand together (they compliment each other)
3) Ample sugar
4) I add a few splashes of starbucks coffee liquor
milk to taste, the red (label) milk makes a better coffee
for the blue label is too watery,
unless its Johnnie Walker 🙂
Oh! & sometimes I add cocoa for some change.
My kid is an honor student
and my president is an Idiot!
If there’s a sucker born every minute
then I have a LOT of clones!
Ever stop to think
and forget to start again?
If at first you don’t succeed,
destroy all evidence that you tried
and my favorites
The sooner you fall behind,
the more time you’ll have to catch up
Two wrongs are only the beginning
you can toast bread & rolls with an iron.
(DO NOT USE STEAM!)
this is more a traveling tip, but when i travel on vac etc..
& no fridge in room, I pump up ac full blast & leave food next to
vent. It’s really common sense. 🙂
I also have a rotation where I ask front desk for soap n shampoo(at 4 star)
with cap & sunglasses, then w/o, then housekeeping.
Then I use them when I stay at cheaper hotel stays.
I’m in therapy for that!
cantoresq: I’d like to make a point, If someone made it already,
sorry, I didnt read all posts. I’m not going into that “uniform”
conversation, that has nothing to do with Shabbos!
I understand your working hard all week & Shabbos is a day of rest.
However it is a holy day, holier than any Yom Tov or day. (see maariv leil Shabbos)Shabbos requires respect & holiness, see, kiddush, & zemiros shabbos, etc..
The word kavod is applied to shabbos. When one goes to see the President
one dresses appropriately even though he is a goy & sometimes & pera Odom!
This is for respect, especially if one visits a King or Queen,
even more so if they are actually Respectable, & Honorable.
One cannot use an excuse when visiting a King in casual attire, since he
dresses formal all week, he wants to be comfortable in his casual attire.
Shabbos is a Queen, I’m not saying what color suit or shoes
one should wear or color shirt, (although an inyan to wear white on shabbos)
just be honest with yourself, & wear what would be considered universally
respectable to visit a president as opposed to what one would wear golfing.
At least for Shul & Seudos, after that im sure you are allowed to enjoy
Oneg Shabbos, in comfortable attire.
For Shabbos can’t even be compare to any President or human King!)
In the Zchus That we show proper respect for the Holy Shabbos
may the world bestow respect on our Holy Nation, & may we merit the
Geulah Shleima, B’korov! Omein!
onlyemes: wow! I couldn’t of said it better myself.
Incognito: good point! true, we all have to work on that.
Ahavas Chinom!
poverty: I must’ve missed something,
what question?
If you want me to clear up my view on the topic,
regardless to my personal opinion,
my point was this cannot be avoided.
Policing religious yidden, (allbeit not on ur frumkeit level)
from moving into your neighborhood or starting a kosher restuarant,
or business!!!!!!
my personal opinion is complex, though I understand the frustrations
of a ultra frum person feeling their ruchnius safe haven being
penetrated by those who aren’t sensitive to their way of life.
However I cannot condone a holier than thou attitude, towards
the working class Balei Batim. (i’m NOT generalizing)
I was trying to avoid this.
My point is there are a few, very few from both sides
who arent behaving with sensitivity towards the other.
those few cause a big stir & make everybody look bad.
Not every working guy by defaults wife dresses not tznius.
Not every learning guy wife dresses tznius.
Dont label people!
I hope I’m being clear in my point.
It’s very true but…
don’t even get me started on this!
The only way to prevent this would be the following.
Lakewood should be a gated community (town)
with guards posted at every entrance!
(How normal does that sound?)
feivel: kol hakavod!
& they say dare say there’s nothing educational in the CR?
BP Totty: cans in toilet tank lol! you too!
YW Moderator-39: it works, only if the normal running water is cold,
although I put it in a plastic bag before submerging it.
I’m a clean freak that way.
How about shampoo on the door handle for guy who did wake up.
One time when there was no hot water erev Shabbos & it was (Mabbeling) pouring rain
so we showered outside in bathing suits (an all boys camp)
water was pretty warm & the water pressure was Gevaldig!
socks dirty but dont wanna make a wash?
just wear them in the pool for 5 min
(tell everybody you have blisters)
then dry them in bunk with a blowdryer.
This I actually learned in Israel.
Want to cook a hard boiled egg but no pot?
or dont wanna do dishes.
No problem! Use an empty pickle can.
Just fill with water & put on electric stove, wait & presto! Hard boiled eggs.
(in theory this can work for scrambled eggs too)
you just have to keep on stirring.