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R-b,
I think you were supposed to be the maven to be yovin that his question was referring to your subtitles, not cold beverages.
AZ: I agree there’s a discrepancy in number of single girls vs. boys but I think it’s because boys will wait for the younger class of girls to choose their trophy
Well, then, those boys would be single, and there should be the same amount of them as there are single girls. You can’t, logically, agree that there’s a discrepancy in numbers but attribute it to choosiness. Every time a boy gets married, he takes a girl with him.
Health,
I wasn’t referring to your kaas in that thread, I was referring to your kaas in this one – your completely unjustified attack on hello99.
Although, as others have pointed out, it seems to be displayed in most threads in which you participate.
You start by identifying yourself, and wait for the avel to respond. When the conversation stops (or if the avel doesn’t respond), you say “Hamokom yenachem”.
Answer me that one; why is it the girls that have to give up their lofty ideals that are based in holiness because not all boys are that way but the boys, whose ideals are based on gashmius, are not told to be realistic because not all girls are like that. Never mind because they are wrong ideals.
It’s a sad reality, but the cold, hard truth (b’derech hateva) is that it’s because of supply and demand.
rc,
You’re right that there are 19, 20, 21, 22, and 23 year old girls after the 23 year old boys. But why? Why didn’t the 20, 21, 22, and 23 year old girls all get married? The answer is, because there were more of them (per year) when they were 19 then there were 23 year old boys, because of population growth.
In other words, what you describe is true, but it’s not the cause, it’s the effect.
OneOfMany’s nomination was fine, but I thought the follow-up was better:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/wheres-the-snow#post-342376
Daas Yochid: where’s the proof that the population growth is as high as you claim it is?
Pba was referring to a study done in girls’ schools which demonstrated that the younger grades are more populated than the older ones. I wasn’t providing proof, i was going along with his assumption.
There are mathematical formulas to determine population growth based on the average number of children per family. You can Google it, just as I have, and I’ve posted my findings in this thread and others, and other posters have as well.
Call. More personal.
Hello99,
While looking up the Achiezer in chelek 4, (I think he discusses electricity in 6) I came across 37 (I think) where he also calls stam yaynom of a m”S a knas.
WIY:
Look for feivel.
My understanding of the shidduch payment is that if the minhag would depend on age as well as location, the payment would vary as well. (No different than any other Sirsur).
It’s certainly possible, but think about it; it would only happen if this program were extremely successful. If we (as a society; I have nothing to do with NASI) can succeed in marrying off hundreds of older girls and preventing igun for so many, wouldn’t it be worth it?
(Unfortunately older girls who aren’t participating in the program will also get less attention and shidduchim.)
Not necessarily; the more shidduchim are made with “older” girls, the more the stigma of marrying an “older” girl is reduced, which ultimately helps all of the “older” girls, not just the ones enrolled.
I’m the one trying to take people’s money?
Yes, if you want to invest in a study. Unless you’ll sponsor, in which case, kol hakavod.
you are the one who is unilaterally raising the standard for shadchanus
I have nothing to do with it. Besides, the only way the standards are raised is if the program works. Would it bother you if more older girls are able to get married?
I know dozens of older single guys.
I’m not sure what your point is. I meant more boys than girls at any given age (i.e. more 10 year old boys than girls, more 17 year old boys than girls, etc.)
And I know dozens of people who are no longer part of the community they grew up in.
Not the point; I don’t assume that that’s the case for females on a larger scale than for males; I assume the opposite.
Pba,
Hamotzi meichaveiro…
You’re the one trying to take people’s money.
My point really, though, is that those assumptions are far fetched.
Pba,
As far as point A, once you’ve proven a certain rate of population growth, it’s not necessary to study the boys, unless you feel the need to disprove the possibility that are are a lot more boys than girls.
As far as point B, you would only need a study to disprove the notion that there are a lot more girls leaving the community.
There are better uses for the money.
Do you like the sub
I preferred “That’s Brisk, Baby”.
I assume you decide which one to use depending on if you’re milchig or fleishig.
Health,
Since when is a coil -Aish? Cause you say so?
http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14671&st=&pgnum=504
If you want to prove something from a Teshuva -how about copying it and posting it first?
http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=919&st=&pgnum=351&hilite=
you only like Torah if you can say something is Ossur or you can do some Chumra and push this Chumra on others too!
you suffer from Kaas also!!!
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/kanoyim-campaign-against-ywn/page/2#post-343905
Mazel Tov, r-b!
DY – You can do it if we all turn ourselves into DY’s. 🙂
Then I wouldn’t have to do anything!
Health, by the way, was “on time out”, so it was intended to be temporary.
Do the moderators know your old user name?
The people who do as you recommend also have way too many singles, just check out the Upper West Side. So you’re asking people to violate their standards of tznius for no benefit.
“Treif” refers to a KOSHER animal that is not shechted k’halacha.
I believe you’re thinking of neveilah.
brainwashed
That term is used way too loosely, whenever someone is in opposition to an ideal which is taught.
Secular Jews think that we frum Jews are all brainwashed into keeping Shabbos.
I could just as easily say that your friend was “brainwashed” into thinking that a life dedicated to learning Torah is not the ideal for a Jewish family.
Nafkei Mina
Nice term.
I highly doubt it will – shadchanus in halacha is determined by locale, not age.
R-b,
Just a thought … maybe nobody knows which moderator blocked you and, as J/B said, no other moderator will get involved.
Also, have you told them the username on that account?
… that’s not how it works- you can ban by IP address.
They don’t.
Oomis,
The program isn’t mandatory.
I’m kidding, BTW.
R-b,
Of course there is more traffic. That is because everybody goes that way.
Because they’re cheap, not because they’re in a hurry.
You reminded me, by the way, of Yogi Berra’s comment that nobody goes to a certain restaurant anymore, because it’s always too crowded.
Chocandpatience,
You had an idea in the other thread, which I can’t participate in, because I promised.
One word answer:
traffic
That article misrepresents R’ Moshe’s opinion; it mentions nothing about government standards or inspections.
Health,
“Instead of getting blinded by this Poisek or that one -think how similar is the type of cooking to the Meleches Hamishkon.”
That doesn’t address havara.
“Even if it wouldn’t be, the bishul of the cholent would still be D’oraiso.”
Why do you say this -because Rav Moshe says so about a microwave?
What does one thing have to do with another?
The fact that R’ Moshe holds a microwave is D’oraiso, despite the fact that they didn’t have them in the mishkan, shows that you have fundamentally misapplied the concept of “dumya d’mishkan”.
Add my name to the petition (I would be an ingrate not to).
Health,
Why do you call an electric element or bulb a sofeik D’oraisa? It’s been accepted by most if not all poskim as aish D’oraisa.
Even if it wouldn’t be, the bishul of the cholent would still be D’oraiso.
You said a key word in your last post; if a posek says a kulo, it must be “Ousgehaltene”.
Yes, Health. 🙂
Soliek,
I just realized that I missed a post of yours from a few days ago:
DaasYochid: your and everyone else’s raaya rom whisket and beer is invalid because those were categorically paskened on by eminent rabbonim. its not that people stam paskened themselves that these items are categorically kosher…its that they were given a PSAK that these items are categorically kosher
There may have been rabbonim who were mattir many products in those days. I was not addressing the issue of following psak, I was speaking about the inherent kashrus.
Cheftza,
What are you referring to that I said earlier?
Hello99,
I don’t think the Sha”ch is a support or contradiction to the possible issur of a m”S, it’s neutral.
If the reason to asser the bishul or yayin of a mechallel Shabbos is a knas, as stated by the Chasam Sofer and others (knas meaning that he is given the status of a non-Jew for all dinim, lo plug) then the underlying reason for the issurim, chasnus, does not have to apply in order for the issur to apply.
Syag,
I wouldn’t have had you not posted here, because I would have thought you hadn’t noticed. Now that I know that you were aware of the situation, however…
JUST KIDDING!
Pba,
It’s on me, since they blocked my original account, not the one I created to “mimic” you.
Now that I’m unblocked, I need ideas on how to get blocked again so I can catch up.
Thanks to all who signed the petition.
this might be a case of zeh nehneh vleh lo chaser
One could make the same argument for copying CDs (IIRC, we’re in agreement that it’s wrong).
Zeh nehneh v’zeh lo chaser is not necessarily a heter, it’s a p’tur from payment.
Goodbye, popa, see you later.
Health,
Yes.
Soliek,
Then we have something in common, which I unfortunately can’t share in a public forum (it has nothing to do with personal issues). Are you reachable through that blog?
Scissors,
No ruach hakodesh required, it’s been mentioned before.
dash,
Don’t take my quote out of context and then attack me for it.
I wasn’t attacking you, I was agreeing with you.
pba,
Alternatively, stay by a different hotel which is close by.
Why is that any different than staying in the same hotel?
Hello99,
The Shach clearly says that Stam Yainam requires some connection to AZ.
We can go back and forth on this ad infinitum (ad v’lo ad bichlal 🙂 ), but he says no such thing.
I haven’t ignored it, I’ve said I would rather ask him personally rather than rely on a teshuvah in which I don’t know the context.
R’ Moshe clearly personally felt that it was only based on chasnus, yet in his teshuva never clearly paskens to be totally matir, in fact apparently only wants to rely on it with a tziruf.
Health,
The Aruch Hashulchan is only matir if it’s an employee, and one of the factors is that a Jew will likely aid in the cooking, which certainly can’t be said in this case.
I don’t know who your rov is or what his sources might be; the Shmiras Shabbos K’hilchoso clearly includes an elictric hot plate in the category of “aish”, and the IG”M holds that even a microwave can produce bishul D’oraiso, so even were we to find a source that a covered element is not aish, according to the IG”M it would still be bishul D’oraiso.