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No I did not say that you can use Egg Matza for the Mitzvah of achilat Matzah. I just said it’s kosher for Passover al pi dina degemara.
Egg Matza can be eaten by anyone, not just sick. Mezonot.
By us we wet the Matza during the meal to make it more edible. And strictly speaking you can talk between washing and motzi. Rav Ovadia would DAVKA speak in order to teach this Halacha.You’re right. It’s normal to throw someone in jail for years because he smoked a substance. Very normal.
Don’t you guys have anything better to talk about than this? Are you guys bored?
We don’t “steal” anything. We hide it under the table cloth.
No they were not all frum. That is why the Torah talks about Mekoshesh etzim Beshabbat, etc. etc. The Torah knew that this could happen in all generations.
But isn’t any ha’adoma ok?
YesSyag:
What I mean to say is it’s a little chutzpadik to leave a moreshet that can be traced directly to the Geonim and further, and to adopt a movement that’s been around maybe 200 years, and then not way at your father’s house. This father was a Dayan and Talmid Chacham, not some am haaretz that didn’t keep kosher.
How do you explain this: there was a big dayan in Morocco and his son became Chabad. He wouldn’t eat at his father’s home because they didn’t have shechitat Chabad.
What I mean to say is from observing discussions among Ashkenazim as to differences, a big proportion of them are things that are chitzoni, and in the big picture, seem not so important.
It’s interesting that when it comes to Ashkenazim, a lot of the differences in customs are things that are chitzoni like type of hat (or presence of hat), type of peyos, beard or no beard, type of kipa, etc. Why is that? Why is the outside appearance the ikar?
Porush was being facetious. Kind of like “if you wanna be a man I’ll refer to you like a man”.
Who is being Yeshivish the goal?
Ashkenazic mentality….
I don’t blame Ashkenazim. I blame Sephardim. Why? Because no one ever stopped them from creating their own network of prestigious yeshivot. The other issue is BRANDING. Ashkenazim have done a phenomenal job at branding themselves as the “legitimate” way to be frum, and as being the True Torah Learners. Therefore, people look up to that as the ideal, even some Sephardim. Had the Sephardim realized how rich and legitimate their heritage was, perhaps there wouldn’t have this issue .
Do you guys realize that America is one of the least advanced industrialized countries? It’s the only industrialized countries whose life expectancy is DECLINING
Joseph explained it well. I would probably just not agree with the word Kofrim because I think for the most part Reform and Conservative Jews aren’t trying to anger Hashem bedavka, it’s just how they were raised.
The difference is that when a Sephardi does something contrary to the Torah it’s because he is Tinok shenishba, or because he grew up that way, or because he knows what he should do but doesn’t feel ready, etc etc. But the Reform movement was BESHITA.
Don’t ever ever compare Sephardic people who are less-than-frum (and go to Orthodox synagogue) to Reform Ashkenazim. Chas veshalom that you should ever compare them.
Are there FEWER, not less.
Ashkenazic mentality
Ashkenazic mentality
After reading all of this, I thank Hashem for making me Sephardic.
The type of girls that go there: Jewish
Our R.H. minhag is to eat couscous.
I have one question that no one will be able to properly answer. Who decides who is and who is not the “Gadol”?
Is there some sort of council that we are all bound to that decides? And isn’t it a little yehoradik to even have an opinion on the matter? Who are we to decide such things?Furthermore, it is possible that there is a Talmid Chacham in some town that no one talks about who is greater in chochma than who we consider the Gedolim. Because he is not mefursam, does that take away from his Gadlus?
Like I say, “Gadol Hador” is a recent (Ashkenazic) invention. La haya velo nivra. Yes there were people that were Gadol BaTorah and whose opinions we follow (Rambam, Noda BIhuda, etc.) but for the VAST majority of Jews, they consulted with their local rav or Dayan. They did not travel to Jerusalem and line up to ask a 3 second question to a rabbi.
Finally, what do you guys mean by “Kanoi”? If you mean someone who is fanatical, then why is that a Ma’ala that should be valued? In our lands, fanaticism did not exist and was not valued. All of our rabbis were pleasant, wise and moderate. Rabbis who scream “Reshoim! Gevaald!” do not impress us. It shows a lack of substance. You guys will never understand this point of view because it is not in your spiritual DNA to understand it. Hamevin yavin.
says who??
There is no “Gadol Hador” in America. Ki MITZION tetze Torah. You cannot compare the level of Torah of Israel to that of America. It’s like comparing a Av Bet Din to a Bar Mitzvah boy. Besides, Gadol Hador is a recent (Ashkenazic) invention. Back in the day, there was a Rav of one’s city, community, etc and that’s who people would go to for questions.
What did they do in Morocco?
Baruch Hashem by us, only the head of the household lights for the whole family. And BH our women and girls don’t bentch lulav and never had this desire or need to do it. It has nothing to do with subservience. My mother, grandmother etc are all strong women and never had this odd desire to do Mitzvos shehzman graman. Anyone who grew up this way will get it innately.
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Neville you’re so שקוע in this need to label everything that you’re lost without it. Everything for you needs a label or category. I am envious I’m my ancestors who were so much more Pashut, simple. No complications. We think we’re so intelligent.
It’s very possible that the lack of Kipa is a recent phenomenon. The question is what is it about Sfaradim that causes them to not make a big fuss about it? To still accept others without a kipa? To not judge?.
This is is exactly what the HIDA was referring to. They are overtaken by Midat Harahamim. I’ll try and find Sefer.
There was traditionally no stratification of Judaism among Sfaradim. There’s no Haredi, Modern Orthodox, left, right, etc etc. The are all recent Ashkenazic inventions. In Spehardic culture everyone is part of the fold. There’s no “Mihutz lamahane moshavo” as it were. If you were very pious, great. If you didn’t keep Shabbat 100% you were still accepted.
It should be noted that covering one’s head is a concept discussed way back in the Gemara. It’s not a recent thing. Everyone agrees that covering one’s head is virtuous. But it’s omission doesn’t make someone irreligious.
Toi it’s nothing about dislike. Ashkenazim and Sfaradim are brothers. Period. But even the HIDA said that on an esoteric level, Ashkenazim are influenced by Midat Hadin. As such they are more likely to be extreme in their worldview.
Neville, although it is SIMILAR to MO, it’s not. MO is a recent American, Ashkenazic invention. And let’s say it is MO. Nu? So? What’s wrong with it?
An Ashkenazi will never understand why someone who doesn’t wear a kipa can still be religious. It’s not in their spiritual DNA to understand.
It is not uncommon for Sefardim who are considered observant to not wear a kipa. Indeed, classically speaking,,
a lack of a kipa was not a sign of not being religious. The person could have been very pious and learned but at work, for example, they didn’t wear it. Some reasons that they DO wear a kipa are:
1.they grew up this way
2.they wish to be more stringent
3.nowadays it’s safer and easier to wear one
4.as a whole Sfaradim have been influenced by the mores of religious Ashkenazim
5.they live in a community where this is the norm.Ben Ish Hai is 13th of Elul. A true Gadol