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I’m glad to have helped get you laughing, LC.
“Name them”
Satmar Rov, Debrecener Rov, Rav Vozner, Viener Rov, Rav Yechezkol Roth, etc.
NP: If one is a member of a community or congregation that holds that Cholov Stam is Cholov Akum mamish, then eating CS is absolutely no different than eating CA, and carries the same negative spiritual consequences.
Benignuman, when a random Muslim didn’t pay his taxes or didn’t report his income when applying for social benefits, the media will usually not even carry a story altogether. If it was big enough to carry, they’ll usually never mention he’s Muslim.
If it is a random Orthodox Jew for the same crime, they’ll usually report it even if it otherwise was too small a case to be newsworthy. And they almost always find a way to stick in the story that he’s Orthodox/Hasidic/Rabbi, even though that has no more to do with the story than that he’s 6 feet tall.
M, your unsupported assertion is why I challenged it. 馃檪 If you’d have sourced it reliably I’d have looked into the claim.
Eating Cholov Akum definitely causes negative spiritual consequences. And many hold that which is called Cholov Stam is Cholov Akum mamish.
There isn’t a lot. It is very very little.
When those man-bites-dog cases occur, since they’re Orthodox, the media (both secular and “Jewish”) play it up and make it sound more than it is.
Proportionally far far less Orthodox Jews cheat on benefits or taxes than the national average for those crimes.
ZD: The First Amendment as well as explicit federal laws prohibit municipalities from interfering with the practice is religion or prayer in the privacy of anyone’s home. Including having others come to pray at your residence. Federal law also prohibits municipalities from having zoning regulations inhibiting the opening of houses of worship.
Welcome to golus.
What you describe will not end before Moshiach arrives.
Daven harder. That’s all we can do.
LC, why haven’t you questioned M’s negative health insinuation, made first, regarding the state of frum health?
M, yet the frum community, despite all the eating you fault it for, does not suffer the same rate of negative health issues as the poorest populations for the conditions you mentioned.
Why are you friends with a goy?
There are reports coming in tonight from multiple news agencies that the President had a meeting at the White on Monday and said he wants to move the embassy to Jerusalem as well as declare that it is the policy of the United States to recognize Jerusalem as the “indivisible capital of Israel.” According to the reports this may be announced next week.
Don’t waste yiddishe gelt.
Lubavitchers don’t use their own OK-D hechsher?
LB: You could backup your data to a physical drive either at the same location as your computer or to a drive you physically place at an off-site location (that’s backed up via the internet, much as you’d do with a cloud backup service.)
In either event, you could leave your backup drive (or your computer with the original data) connected to the internet and available to access remotely.
The tech should be fine in 10 years.
If hackers breach your cloud provider and steal the data of millions of customers, something that’s likely to occur at some point, you might find your life history freely available on the internet.
There used to be MOs living in Brooklyn. Many moved to the Five Towns years ago. Where’d they move to from there — Teaneck?
Yidden lived in Eretz Yisroel before the Zionists-come-lately’s came and seized control. The Yidden from the pre-Zionist period, and anyone who joined their communities anytime thereafter, have the right to live in Eretz Yisroel, walk the streets, drive, use electric, the airport, etc., all of which existed before the Zionists. The Zionists having seized them and made improvements to them doesn’t force others to stop using the streets or whatever.
You could ask the same question about shelo asani goy or shelo asani eved.
There is absolutely no change the Chareidi community needs to make in this area other than to further distance ourselves from state bodies.
We’ve been hearing about “boycotting the Badatz” for over 40 years already.
How do you explain the Gemorah?
If the gedolei yisroel are “complicit” in the protests, that is proof that the protests are righteous and that everyone who hasn’t yet joined the protesters should do so expeditiously.
M, if not for my comment, we wouldn’t be having this informative discussion — including your informative post! Instead we’d have been having a mostly vain discussion whether you and others personally prefer, as a matter of taste, milichigs or fleishigs.
Coffee Addict, is it becoming more so or less so? I thought at one time it was more MO, and then a larger number of non-MO moved in.
The Rosh Yeshiva of Ponovitch said if protests outside the yeshiva against them taking money and voting hadn’t materialized, he’d have hired protesters against the Yeshiva’s policy himself, to show that it is only a b’dieved.
A seudas mitzvah should be fleishigs.
How Modern Orthodox are the Five Towns?
Like Teaneck?
“I would argue though that names like… Sidney, Seymour, Morris, Debbie while not Hebrew names are all Jewish names”
So you would argue that goyim named Sidney, Seymour, Morris or Debbie have a Jewish name?
Some Jews developed the practice of giving Christmas presents on Chanukah. They picked up this custom from the surrounding gentile culture. They usually rename this consumerism a “Chanukah present” since calling by its actual name (Christmas presents) embarrassingly raises images in their minds a guy in a long beard and red reckel coming down the chimney.
Wolf, you’re still carrying this mosherose complex.
“Who is worthy of being moshiach?”
The Skulener Rebbe
Rav Chaim Kanievsky
Rav Shmuel Auerbach
Rav Aharon Leib Shteinman
Rav Aharon Schechter
The Gerrer Rebbe
and various othersWinnie,
Are you saying that the Israeli government asserts no control over the curriculum of Chareidi schools, despite providing the schools with funding, and that the government does not set any minimum secular subjects (i.e. math, science, foreign language, etc.) that must be taught in Chareidi Yeshivos/BYs?
Once they assert any minimums (science, math) it is easy for the Israeli Department of Education (or whether they’re called) to modify the required curriculum to include things like evolution, teaching respect for different lifestyles, minimum number of hours for secular studies, English, etc.
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled, in Yoder v. Wisconsin, that religious schools in the US can completely end all secular/non-religious curriculum after 8th grade, should they so choose.
Another huge problem with accepting government money is that it gives them an opening to try to shove their treif ideas down Yeshivos throughts in an attempt to force their secular and anti-Torah priorities on the Tinokos Shel Beis Rabban in our Yeshivos and Beis Yaakovs.
You make a good case against accepting, even legally entitled, funding from the Zionist government. And, indeed, as you indicated groups like Brisk, Satmar, the Eidah HaChareidus and others, in fact, refuse to accept government money they’re legally entitled to under Zionist law — such as government funding for Yeshivos. Which is why those aforementioned kehilos are prolific fundraisers in Chutz La’aretz for their Yeshivos which decline all government funding.
On the other hand, kehilos affiliated with Agudas Yisroel and the like do accept government funding. And, in another sense, logically it makes sense since the members of their kehilos pay taxes to the government that is used to fund educational institutions. They figure why should they not accept money from the system when they’re putting money into the system.
ChabadShlucha: No, that isn’t it. I’m not troubled by anything. I simply pointed out that the definitions you were posting on the other thread regarding this subject is incorrect. Even according to the Lubavitcher Rebbe.
As an aside, women’s lib/feminism is antithetical to Judaism. This thread started in 2015, as can be seen on the datestamp of the OP. None of the posts are denigrating Bnos Yisrael; they are direct translations from the Maharal and other Achronim.
ChabadShlucha: I see a lot of misguided reinterpretation of bina yeseira being expressed in the other thread to make Judaism sound c’v to be in sync with feminism. As a Lubavitcher I’m sure you hold much of the Maharal. In order to understand this topic better, I suggest you take a look at this thread which cites the Maharal (and many others) saying that men are on a higher spiritual level than women and have chochma yeseira.
C”V! As you know, for years I’ve been calling him a tzaddik nistar. I often speak to him with the bakovedik title of Reb (and only because of his shunning being called Rabbi) despite he in his great anivus and tzidkus trying to discourage any honorifics.