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I cant tell you about the specific seminary in Gateshead, but I can tell you something about England in general you will need to know
It is expensive in England, Stuff is expensive there even for Americans, and I can only imagine more so for Israelis. I remember spending a small fortune there. I remember paying 8 Pounds for a Hamburger Patty (About $12)
I dont know what they speak in Gateshead the majority of the time English of Yiddish, but in the rest of England, its English or nothing, In general in the Anglo countries there is a strong bias towards english against any other language. You need to speak english fluently and the Geordie Accent (Accent of Norhthampton which included Gateshead) is especially difficult to understand even for native english speakers
Where in the Torah are you? I guess you don’t exist either.
I dont exist, I am an avatar
There is no such thing as a planet in the Torah, so there cannot be any planet sized computer. Unless you believe mice are the most intelligent beings…
Where in the Torah is Aurora Borealis, I guess that doesnt exist either.
In the secular world colleges and universities are required to set standards for granting degrees. People want to know which universities made people earn their degrees and which are degree mills.
Its well known that YU makes you earn the degree, enough people are monitoring it. Smaller Yeshivas not so much.
How are people supposed to know if you actually had to earn that Semicha or it was basically sold.
“When I was a child, the yeshivos accepted any Jewish kid who wanted to learn, and never looked at the parents or siblings or even their ability to pay tuition. A child wanted to learn Torah-no questions asked!”
Once I came to the conclusion that yeshivos nowadays are run like a business, it made things much simpler and less hurtful.
There was a time (at least here in the US) where Yeshivas were begging for students and would take anyone as there were too many empty seats. Today Students are begging for yeshivas as there are more students than seats.
I remmeber a time (not too long ago, I am not even that old) a yeshiva would take a kid from a non-religious backround , Today how many yeshivas would take such a kid.
A Ralph lauren Shirt costs about $60 I think. While too expensive for me, I dont think its too out of line.
An Armani Suit costs over $1000, And I best most could not indentify one on sight without seeing the label
I will disagree here with most, Why rush. Seriosuly it isnt like a Bag or a pair of shoes that if you dont like you can just return.
Dont feel rushed, take your time and if you dont feel it there is no need to buy there merchandise. It doesnt matter if he is a nice guy or not. He could be a great guy, just not a guy for you.
Most of the stories posted here are people who werent sure, but married anyway and are happy. I doubt you will get too many stories from people here who didnt know and married anyway and found out later it was the wrong decision.
I am not sure if it is still there, but there was a Russian place in Brookly. Somewhere near Brighton Beach.
You could just go in there and take what you wanted
Even those places want YU Semicha, because unlike most Semicha which only focus on Torah, YU teaches related disciples like Psychology and how to deal with people.
Its more of a professional degree there like a doctor or Lawyer
If you want to be a Modern Orthodox Rabbi, You need to go to YU for smicha.
Most place will only hire graduates from YU.
Mobe613
Have you ever been “Out of town” places where they think jews have horns or killed their savior, or where every other word out of their mouth is “the savior” and how much they love him.
I dont think the Chassidim in the Chosen were Satmar.
The Rebbe was anti-zionist before 1948, but accepted the state after 1948. This was the more general Charedi response but not the Satmar
Of course it’s legal. I can hypothesize almost anything I want and the cops can’t do a thing to me. It’s not, however, admissible in court as evidence.
The Wolf
Thats what I meant and unless the BMW’s owner reported it stolen (which I dont think it was) you cant get him on that either. Thats how they were able to trace who he was, Somehow the BMW’s owner knew him.
Unless you can prove he was DUI, either by a breathalizer test, or witnesses saw him in a bar or there is a bar tab or there is a receit from a store showing he purchased liquor , Hypotheyzing that he was drunk is heresay and not legal under US law
No way! Man has been to the moon!?! Why haven’t I heard about that???
The Rambam held the moon was a spirtual and not a physical place.
When the Moon landings were about to occur in 1969, Rav Yaakov Kaminetsky was excited to watch it to see if the Rambam was correct or not
FYI Not all planets are actual land that you could walk on.
Theoritically you can only walk on Mercury, Venus and Mars along with most of the Moons and Astroids.
We have landed robots on Mars and of course man has been to the Moon
I knew someone who killed someone while driving without insurance and a suspended licence. (In NY)
He Hired a lawyer and got a fine and probation
I dont know if #5 is true or not, but Seminaries and Yeshivas in Israel MUST hire counselors to deal with teens who are likely away from home for the first time especially in a foreign country. Many will be homesick and are not prepared to be on their own yet.
Colleges and universities have these people all the time
Its not just Semimary
I was pressured to attend Yeshiva in Israel for a year after high school and got a cold shoulder when I refused to go.
Not every is prepared or mature enough to be in a foreign country for a year. While I am sorry I did not spend a year in Israel, The year after High School was not that year. It would have been a disaster.
Everyone Matures differently
I have been out of town a bunch of times, and Ive even seen the Chabad Rabbis wear the baseball cap (They have the Tzizit out)
I also was once in a National Park in South Dakota. I saw a Frum Family on vacation wear the father and sons wore baseball hats (and Tzizit out) and the females wore long skirts and the mother had on a Techil.
Legally you cannot prosecute someone for a crime even if they did another crime at another time unrelated (Similar crimes are not related unless its something like they went on a robbing spree stealing from a string of stores)
He will unlikely get a long prison term, Its not really a crime to kill someone by accident in a car crash (Running away from the scene is a crime, but not as bad)
Unless they can prove he was drunk or on Drugs, even if he was speeding, its does not go to the level of actual murder. The term is Vehicular Manslaughter
Shabbat.com asks for references and is pretty picky who they pick.
They are not doing it out of malaice though, they are doing it because sometimes the people they set up “werent right” and did wrong
Zahavasdad: thanks for the Berel Wein anecdote. If anyone has other stories about well-known rabbis exercising or playing sports, please share them.
Rav Nissim Alpert when he was younger used to play basketball
SB Have you ever been to NY
It can be a rough place for people not familiar with the area and customs.
I could say Lakewood, Flabush or Borough Park
I know of some organizations that might help, but I cant mention them here or post links
WOW,
Have you considered moving to another community (I dont mean going OTD yourself) I mean moving to another neighborhood where maybe they wont treat your familes as being differnt.
It might hur to do so, but maybe its nessasary to keep your family.
There are other options as well
Other communities I am sure can find a place for you
No hotel is needed.
Maybe a bit controversial here, but I am sure Chabad can put you up in Crown Heights
Papa
I was in a cab in Israel talking to the driver, I guess he was Chiloni. Somehow the topic of Netrei Karta came up and I thought he would not like them.
He said he didnt mind the Neterui Karta because they dont take the money, unlike other Charedim.
Granted it was only one Taxi Driver, but I doubt he was a Daas Yachid on this
I only speak for myself here, but to a certain extent we all sort of care for you and do worry that all will be OK, even though we dont know who you are.
It is scary being away from home for the first time especially in a foreign country. Your family who calls about getting home is concerned for you.
When you go to colleges, they have programs like Peer Orientation and consultions , in which fellow students help you adjust to your new life. Seminaries and Yeshivas dont have this. I know many people who did not succeed at their first college and succeeded elsewhere so dont be gloom because it didnt work out.
When I was a senior in High School we were pressured to go to Israel for a year, I did not want to go, I knew I wasnt ready to go away (I went to a local Secular college instead). It would have been the wrong decision for me at the time, even looking back at it now even though I am sorry I did not spend more time there
Getting a place to stay for Pesach in NY isnt hard,
IN 1840 there was a Blood Libel in Damascas, At least 10 jews were tortured and killed (One converted to Islam after being tortured)
The Jewish Quarter of Cairo was destroyed in 1945
A Pogrom occured in Baghdad in 1941 and 200 Jews were killed
Berel Wein likes to Jog. Once he was wearing a jogging suit , jogging in Jerusalem. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach saw him and he was embarrassed. Before Berel Wein could say anything. Rav Shlomo said NU Your Health is important too
From Chanoch Teller’s book on Rav Shlomo Auberbach
If you belive in a promise from an arab nationalist, Ill sell you a bridge or give you an indian treaty
One never knows the future of course, and you can never know how the shoe store will due in the future, Styles change rents increase (Alot of famous stores have gone out of business because of this) , neightborhoods change.
I cant tell you if a college degree is going to make you more money or not and of course Hashem provides. But if you and another person are applying for a job as a lawyer and the other person has a law degree and you dont, I can reasonably assume he will get the job and you wont.
I know there are 2 sides to the story and originally I did defend the Semininary. I do think they should have rejected her (as harsh as that sounds) because of the money situation. They are entitled to the money.
However once they accepted her and brought her to Israel, knowing the financial details, they have a responsibility to make sure things go OK, Not to kick her out because of money, not to basically make her leave the country.
its not like she went to a college here in the US and they threw her out because she didnt have the money or a scholarship fell through In that case she could get home fairly quickly and easily even if it means taking an extended bus ride.
If the british was still in control of Palestine, there wouldnt be a lot of jews there. The White Paper severly limited jewish immigration to Palestine, and even those limited immigration numbers were not reached
In the 1800’s there was a mandatory draft of jews in Russia. Jews were drafted for 25 years, the jews who were taken were called cantonists.
Instead of direct draft by the government, the tsarist government made the local jewsish leader pick who went.
The Rich jews usually bribed their way out of letting their sons go and the Rabbis usually used their connections to get their sons out of the draft.
So the usual people taken were the poor unconnected especially the orphans who had no-one to vouch for them
You will not get $50,000 a year part time, very few part time jobs pay that, Expect more like $10,000 or less for a part time job
I do think it was very irresponsible for the seminary in Israel to admit a BT girl who needed time to pay and then decided she owned $12,000 ASAP otherwise she would have to leave.
Leaving a young woman in a foreign country (I dont know if she speaks hebrew or not or if she knows anyone there) is a very bad thing.
If they really needed to ask her to leave, they should have waited until she could get a ticket back to the US
snowbunny
Do you have a ticket to return back to the states?
Snowbunny, if they did kick you out of the dorms, do you have cash until you are able to leave the country.
You mean to tell us, you were told to come up with $12,000 Today or they would kick you out of the Seminary IN ISRAEL?
Basically throwing out on the street in a foreign country?
If I understand this correctly, there is no excuse for that and I have nothing to say
Unfortunatly lost of people lie to the tutiton committees in order to get discounts or scholarships.
Also it could be the admission interview people are not the same ones who work for financial department.
I am still frum because even though the director of my program was really mean to me by accepting me into this program and then telling me to leave because I can’t afford to pay off such a high amount of money before the end of the year (12,000 dollars), my friends and other people still donated money towards my tuition, and I know that I am planning on coming back to Israel at the end of august.
I dont mean to defend the director, but its not so simple. Unfortunatly there are bills to pay. Salaries need to be paid, Utitlities have to be paid, Maintainace has to be paid. They cannot easily give scholoships. Most US universites have endowments that do pay for some scholoships, I dont think many if any Yeshivas, seminaries other similar have endowments.
I suspect he might have come out mean, but he really was facing reality
One should be very careful about using the Maps feature on the iPhone. It has been known to take people Off the Dereach and sometimes even off a cliff
Gefiltle whatever it is (It isnt Fish for sure) is nasty and I wont eat it unless there is nothing else to eat and I am starving
Is a Kilt in Scotland considered Begged Isha?
How about Food?
REAL Machmirim don’t eat food unless it is for a Seudas Mitzva. Tznius Chumras are for Phony Machmirim.
You might laugh at Food and Shopping addictions, they are real issues
It is not a joke.