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While the impact of US aid on Israel may be very negative (since it results in Israeli weapons being manufactured by American workers rather than Israeli workers), it gives countries like Iran (and Russia) enough to worry about that they don’t go full force to conquer Israel. If the US loses interest it anything on the “right” side of the pond, it gives Iran (and Russia) a free hand to blockade Israeli ports (and Eliat’s access to the Indian Ocean and East Asia is not dependent on the American navy), and to use cruise missiles or even nukes on Israeli cities.
I doubt Trump knows who the Kurds are, and I suspect Biden doesn’t either. They are fairly secular Moslems who are greatly annoying Americas enemies, as well as the Turks (who are American allies, at least nominally). Historically they have been friendlier to Yidden than the Arabs, Iranians or Turks.
A weak United States will be unable to help Israel, and the combined effects of Trump and Biden, WOKE and MAGA, is to weaken America.
For Israel, the best approach is to cut a deal the Palestinians, which will end the threats from the Iranians, eliminate reliance on the Americans, and probably result in Israel losing its invitation to join in World War III (which will be a great show to miss).
1. It is a mistake to see Eretz Yisrael as a unique case. If the United States is opposed to the “axis” that include China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea – the United States will help Israel. If the United States returns to the “America First” foreign policy of the pre-WWII era, it will at most offer Israel moral support but to avoid involvement in foreign wars will not offer military assistance, and to preserve neutrality may block American Jews from assisting Israel.
2. Based on polling, most Democrats and most Republicans favor the internationalist foreign policy dating back to people such as Truman, Eisenhower, and Kennedy – up to Reagan and the Bushes. However isolationists on the right and left have great influence on both parties, and based on the current situation, it is unknown which way both parties will turn.
If the Republicans go “America First”, it means that the Israelis, the Europeans (not just the Ukrainians), the Taiwanese, the Philippines and the Koreans all end up under the bus. Depending on how overbearing the Russians, Chinese and Iranians are, the US might settle to except their domination as long as we are largely left alone domestically, or perhaps the US will quickly realize it made a big mistake, and go full force into a World War (as happened on the afternoon of Dec. 7, 1941).
But if you pay close attention to what Trump is saying, he has so far said he will only help allies who help themselves, and since almost all of the NATO members as well as the threatened countries in East Asia are seriously increasing their armed capacities themselves (even Germany is getting ready to go nuclear, we are thrilled???), Trump could simply take credit for global rearmament and become a reincarnation of Harry Truman, John Kennedy or Ronald Reagan. With Trump you never know.
And Biden may be so scared of losing the “WOKE” Democrats, that he’ll be steadily be turning into an anti-war, and anti-Israel Democrat.
It involves a poorly drafted statute that will be easy to change. The people who drafted it did not think about IVF.
The state court could have interpreted the statute as intended (similar to how the Supreme Court “saved” Obama care by correcting a drafting error that misplaced a “not” that turned the statute into gibberish), but instead they interpreted the statute according to what it said.
There is no deep philosophical matter involved (other than that legislators should not pass laws with reading them closely).
Coffee addict: There is no “flood” of Chinese illegal aliens. Chinese is fairly prosperous (so immigrant wannabees tend to have money and advanced degrees and can at least read English since it is required in schools), and it is very hard to walk or swim to the USA from China (cf: Pacific Ocean). The “flood” coming over the southern land border are largely indigenous “huddled masses” from very poor Latin American countries (while some are educated political refugees, most are working class “deplorables” that tend to be upwardly mobile but with job skills that are either unskilled or at best semi-skilled).
The immigrants, who have a good chance to become middle class Americans (as did most of our ancestors).
Their employers, who get hard working and highly motivated workers awed by what to them a very high salaries.
If you look at major league baseball, not the improvement in the quality of the game due to immigrants, who appear to win over half the positions (in a very objective, skills based competition).As most of the immigrants now are social conservatives, from societies that that are conservative in sexual matters, pro-life and anti-LGTBQ, it isn’t so clear if they’ll end up as Republicans or Democrats (though by the time they become citizens, the parties may have realigned). Also, most of the Hispanics coming are fleeing countries with socialists governments, rigged elections and courts that decide cases politically based on rule of law, so they might be disinclined to support the Democrats as they now are (which will really confuse those who hold by “intersectionality”).
My guess is that the current wave will support rapid economic growth in the USA in spite of a low birthrate, have no impact on politics but might force both parties back to the center, and that in a generation or two the “nativist” movement to keep out mass immigration will be led by Hispanics (just as the current anti-immigration movement is led by the descendants of those who came through Ellis Island).
RE: “Jordan is already 78% of historical Palestine. Jordanians of Palestinian origin constitute more than 80%
of the population …” — Meaning that if a Palestinian state is established in Jordan, it will be well situated to start to work recapturing its lost territories (Israel). The flaw in the Zionist movement was always that they forgot that the Arabs have been the largest group in Eretz Yisrael for well over a thousand years, and are very unlikely to ever agree to settlement that leave Eretz Yisrael other than under Muslim rule. This was pointed out in the last century by Hareidi gedolim, and ignored by the various types of zionists. One should consider how the Americans would acted if the indigenous Americans attempted to establish an indigenous state in place of the United States (and American control of the United States has been for a much shorter period – 200 years most of what is now the United States was under indigenous control).Silliness is “so” pre-Oct. 7. To paraphrase Samuel Johnson, nothing concentrate your mind as an existential crisis.
In case I used words you can’t understand, the original quote from the 19th century was “When a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully”, and in case you skip the news, the yishuv in Eretz Yisrael may be facing destruction, and the American Jewish community may be facing catastrophic dislocation due to increasing open and politically potent anti-Semitism.
We’ve know the “intellectual left” (the “enlightened ones” as they perceive themselves) for over two centuries, and we have never been so naive as to see them as other than arrogant bigoted elitists who desire to harm Yiddishekit. The secular Jews have identified with them and they are horrified to find that that they admired and respected and imitated (“aped” might be a good word) support genocide of Jews and “canceling” Jewish life, even of those that are secular (killing frum Jews was never problem for them, but now they are going after the hilonim as well).
Some of the political points in the original posting are irrelevant to us (e.g. while Ukraine’s defeat will encourage Iran and Hamas, immigration policy and the exaggerated response to Covid are not Jewish issues, though if Medinat Yisrael goes the way of Afghanistan we will liberal immigration rules in place)
Shtreimlech1: I don’t think the Czars had anything to do with it. For starters, a good many Yidden did not live in territory directly rules by Russia. For example, the Hungarian cavalry (part of the Hapsburg army) were still wearing shtreimels at the start of World War I, and furs hats remained popular in Russia (to this very day). Long coats remained popular in Europe until after World War I (all the world leaders were wearing kapotes at the post-war peace conference). Since one still found many non-Hasidic Yidden with shreimels after World War I, it is more likely related to reason many westerners gave up wearing fur hats (cars and trains are heated). While non-Hasidim are somewhat influenced by goyish fashions (e.g. switching to Homburgs and Fedoras as dress hats), most Hasidim couldn’t care bobkes about what the goyim’s fashion influencers do.
Fur hats used to be standard throughout Europe. One factor was it got warmer (the period from roughly 1400 to the mid-19th century was the “Little Ice Age” and it was unusually cold – that’s why the greens use it to base global warming charts). The centers of non-Hasidic Ashkenazim were increasingly in countries where fur hats ceased to be fashionable. While some attribute the decline of kapotes (frock coats) to King George V’s decision to stop wearing them, automobiles were a major factor (to a greater extent than railroads).
Hasidim tend not to care about British kings or American presidents, and so are less likely to follow their fashions.
Turkey wasn’t allowed to join the EU, and while it was suggested that it become an American or British mandate after World War I, Turkey remained independent and is not bound by what the US and UK want to do. NATO doesn’t really involve Iran as it is a different region.
1. IF a Jewish boy is born on Dec. 25, his bris would be on Jan. 1, and the goyim hold that someone important to them was a Jewish boy born on Dec. 25. Of course, even according to their scholars, “Dec. 25” is a myth based on a Roman holiday (Saturnalia).
2. For a long time the “new year” in the Christian calendar began on March 25 (at least in English speaking countries), and the change to Jan. 1 was not motivated by religion but by a desire to standardize calendars.
Catlover613: But if the “civil year” is based on an myth that is clearly avodah zarah, would we be allowed to use it. I suggest the best way to regard it is that the Christians decided that dating things from the regnal years of kings, or the founding of the City of Rome (also a myth) as the Romans did, was “awkward” so they picked an arbitrary date. We know it was arbitrary since according to the Christian myths, you know who was born during the reign of Herod (who considered himself “Great” -no one else did), and died in 4 B.C.E. Since it is an arbitrary choice of a base date, there is no reason to hold it is avodah zarah, and in fact Yidden have used it since the Christians switched in the middle ages.
The correlation between being an “elite” university and one that tolerates and encourages anti-Semitism has been widely noted. Frum Jews aren’t all that affected since while some of us attend or work for such schools, we are obviously aware of anti-Semitism since we are obviously Jewish – though some “modern” Orthodox do change their personal names and modify their appearance so they won’t look “too” Jewish. For us it has always been a fact of life.
For the more assimilated, Oct. 7 and the aftermath are an existential shock. They never could imagine that those they saw as colleagues felt that the mass murder and rape, etc., of Jews was good public policy. The good American Jews assumed that anti-Jewish prejudice was only directed against frum Jews (and such assimilationists held such views themselves). A similar event occurred just under a century ago when highly assimilated German Jews discovered what their beloved German countrymen really thought of them (and the meme of a German Jew being led to the gas chamber shouting about his medals earned fighting for the Kaiser)
One option is migration to the “red” states, and going to politically conservative (or at least moderate) universities. We can also join the many conservative voices attacking the manner in which credentials from “elite” universities are afforded a value not reflected in the quality of education the students receive.
But the bottom line, is that if the anti-Semitic elites continue in power in America, it is unlikely that the country will remain a good place for Jews, and also that Israel needs to be prepared to stop depending on the United States for assistance.
It’s not even a minhag. How could it be, as plastic is a recent invention. It is convenient since you can have a nice table cloth for milkig and fleishig, and just change the plastic.
1. Most American are descended from immigrants, including almost all frum Jews.
2. The above fact shows that the pro-immigration parties were successful, and the nativists lost, and it turns out the prosperity of the country is largely due to immigrants.
3. Jews opposed to non-admission of non-WASP immigrants look silly, since they are arguing that our ancestors should not have been allowed inEver since the 17th century, America has a pro-immigration tradition that few other countries share. Palestinians in Egypt would look and sound like foreigners, and the Egyptians would not like that – remember that Egypt made a point of not annexing Gaza when they had a choice.
America has long accepted “huddled masses, yearning to be free” (which is the case of those trying to come in now), and indeed, in the last presidential election neither party nominated a candidate who ancestors were living in the United States at the time of the Revolution (something that never happened before); in fact in America, most of the “nativists” are themselves descendants of recent immigrants.
Facilitating access to Gaza from Egypt would facilitate terrorist movement and facilitate the importation of weapons. Also remember that many if not most Egyptians tend to support their fellow Muslims in Gaza. — And trying to expel the Gazans to Egypt is very problematic since while Palestinians are basically the same ethnically as the Arabs in Lebanon, Syria and Jordan (excluding the Bedouin elite who rule Jordan), the Egyptians are very different in terms of ethnicity, race and culture.
“Sin” is the word for China. Interestingly, Hamas is backed by the Sino-Russia-Iranian alliance.
In a world of fools, a corrupt non-fool might be the best choice.
Would the individuals complaining about the advertisements care to set up a trust fund to cover the costs (including staff) of operating YWN?
And the “Progressive” faction of the Democrats gave Hamas their blessing to do so.
Did anyone give a different reason?
The British government has a long history of being anti-zionist. In the 1920s they sabotaged the agreement between the Jews (both zionist and non-zionist) with the Arabs, and did their best to ignite a Jewish-Arab conflict under their “divide and conquer” strategy. In 1947 and 1948 their whole policy was to help the Arabs win in the hopes that the zionists would be forced to ask the Brits to rescue them, and thereby keep Palestine British (though it was half hearted since by May 1948 they had already been forced out of India when their “let’s get the natives killing each other” strategy failed to result in the natives begging the Brits to stay on as colonial overlords).
And it isn’t surprising that Braverman, whose roots are in South Asia (even if married to a Jew) might not share those traditional British ideas.
Except for the Wall Street Journal (among major news sources) there are very few if any “major” American new sources that still make an attempt at “reporting” the news objectively. This is a return to the status quo ante in the mid-19th century when all newspapers had open political bias, and “reported” the news based upon their own biases. Just as you would expect YWN to be presenting news from a frum perspective (and being very unfair in reporting news of anti-Semites), don’t expect the New York Times (etc.) to do anything other than presenting the news for a WOKE, left wing politically correct perspective (and being unfair to those defined as enemies by the left, which includes frum Yidden and Zionists).
CTALAWYER: “Camelot” was hardly extinguished on Nov. 22. Indeed, the clearest consequence was the Lyndon Johnson was able to get the Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed, and for the first time made discrimination against Sabbath-observant Jews illegal, opening up tremendous opportunities for frum Jews to enter professions that had been closed. A large faction of the Democratic party was opposed to civil rights laws, and Kennedy’s death proved to be the catalyst for the coalition of Republicans and Northern Democrats to get the law passed.
The left wing has been anti-Semitic for years. Usually the focus was on traditional Jews, but Hamas has made it clear that the international left sees all Jews as the enemy – something that we frum Yidden have always known, but is a shock to those Jews who used to think of themselves as good members of the politically correct “progressive” movement. The similarity is to German Jews who had seen themselves as good and respected Germans, until they woke up and realized that the Germans didn’t agree.
John Kennedy actually wore a proper frock coat (kapote, as we call it), and a top hat to his inauguration. The hat got misplaced and when he walked down Pennsylvania Avenue he was bare headed. What actually killed hats as part of male dress was the automobile (which also killed kapotes as a standard business dress – though George V decision to stop wearing them was a recognition of the change).
Ideologically, Kennedy’s tax policies (similar to Reagan and Trump, meaning he is a DINO by today’s standards) serious stimulated the economy. His militant opposition to the the Soviet-China alliance was similar to Reagan, and a lot more than most of today’s Democrats. His support for Civil rights is why frum Jews today have career options beyond working for other Jews or opening their own business – while the five day workweek was due to FDR, a prohibition of religious discrimination in employment came from the Civil Rights Act (proposed by Kennedy, the Republicans and the liberal wing of the Democrats – most of the opposition came form the conservative wing of the Democrats).
Kuvult:
1. Public libraries in general have long preferred opening on Saturday and closing on Sunday, even in neighborhoods with large Shomer Shabbos populations. Compare the Saturday hours to the Sunday hours. And as a consequence, they are unable to accommodate staff members who are unwilling to work on Saturday.
2. These biases go way back. Over a century ago, New York State’s librarian was fired at the insistence of the legislature since he was openly anti-Semitic – and the library profession was outraged by the legislature’s bias. Job discrimination even against non-frum Jews continued through the mid-20th century, and even today it is hard for someone who is openly Orthodox (Shomer Shabbos, and whose clothing and preferred days off based on the Jewish calendar) to get a job as a librarian unless working for a Jewish library or as a specialist in Jewish/Hebrew studies.
3. The people running NYPL are left wing Democrats, as is most of the city government. The new “politically correct” position is that all Jews (not just religious ones, though we are the most visible) are public enemies who should be discriminated against. What we would want is for advocates of “Diversity, Equity and Inclusion” to be seen as what they are, Nazis if 21st dress and treated accordingly (fired and marginalized) but the reality is that they control most of the political institutes in blue cities and states.
I suspect it has more to do with anti-Semitism. The library profession from which I recently retired has always been very tolerant of anti-Semitism, and the current waive of anti-Semitism which is now considered normative in the WOKE community (and most librarians are very WOKE) is the most likely explanation.
While the NYPL public libraries are government agencies, complaining to the politicians probably won’t help as most of them are progressive Democrats who probably see closing the libraries on Sunday as a cost efficient way to show their dislike of Jews.
1. If you notice a common sort of behavior of the Yismaelim, going back almost 4000 years, you understand that human life is less important to them than it is to us. No hidush.
2. Israel is not willing to execute Palestinian prisoners, especially if they were arrested only for opposing the regime (as opposed to terrorism). The Palestinians have no qualms about executing Jewish prisoners, as they clearly illustrated (and note, most of the Arab world, and the political left, cheered the murder, torture and rape of Jews). By halacha, killing non-combatants is only allowed if Ha-Shem, or at least a Navi, or at least a Kohen Gadol with Urim ve-Tumim says its okay. And whatever you think of Bibi, he is a prophet or even a Melekh Beis Davis.With many goyim, including important political leaders, are marching through the streets of the world calling for the murder of Jews, and clearly not distinguishing between frum or frei, Hareidi or Reform, Israeli or living in golus – then it is not the time to be philosophizing after Zionism or the nature and halachic status of Medinat Yisrael.
The MARC (Maryland commuter rail) has announced that due to a “First amendment event” the trains may be very crowded on Tuesday. I would not be surprised if many non-frum Jews and goyim come. The issue of the WOKE left endorsing murder, kidnapping and rape is actually quite important to more than just the frum community, as they (the pro-Hamas demonstrators) appear to have alienated more than just Orthodox Jews, even if it is probably considered “existential” only to us.
The MARC (Maryland commuter rail) has announced that due to a “First amendment event” the trains may be very crowded on Tuesday. I would not be surprised if non-frum Jews and goyim come. The issue of the WOKE left endorsing murder, kidnapping and rape is actually quite important to more than just the frum community, as they (the pro-Hamas demonstrators) appear to have alienated more than just Orthodox Jews.
If the “left” favored Taiwan and Ukraine, they would be demanding expanding the military to Cold War levels (at least), and reducing domestic spending while raising taxes to pay for it. The same holds true of the “right”. This suggests that the current political leadership is not very serious about supporting Israel, Ukraine or Taiwan, and that the Hamas outrage is calling the American “bluff”.
Coffee addct: Those who supported the Nazis for an ulterior motive but did not support the Holocaust are NOT seen in the same light as the Nazis. This includes Finland (allied with Germany against the Soviet Union, but only as a co-belligerent and never at war with the other Allies, and refused to persecute Jews or even to exclude them from its army) and Japan (allied with Germany but refused German requests to round up and execute Jews within its territories).
Given that the political left is holding rallies calling for genocide of Jews, it might be useful to make it clear we object. The “WOKE” demand is for a Judenrein world, and it is in our interests to force left-wing Democrats to confront this and decide if they really want to include a faction that supports mass murder as a matter of policy.
To the one saying “how many unemployed…”. If one holds that the laws against homicide, and the public international laws against genocide and murder of civilians in war time, no longer apply to Yidden– Kal ve Homer the law as against employment discrimination don’t apply.
Actually most of the “Progressive caucus” opposes American intervention abroad and are just as isolationist as Trump’s “America First.” They oppose building up the military, and regard defense contractors as evil war-mongering capitalists (and in their lingo, “capitalist” is a pejorative).
The ones who support Taiwan and Ukraine, are the RINOs (Reagan Republicans) and DINOs (cold war Democrats in the Truman/John Kennedy model), and there are the ones who support Israel. Though not very enthusiastically (note that none of them favor cutting the domestic spending or raising taxes, meaning they are willing to come up with the money to match China/Russia/Iranian military spending).
1. Quotes from dead rabbanim are irrelevant since political parties change over time. In the last century the core principle of the Democrats was white supremacy. Both parties have gone through phases of being isolationists or interventionists. Quoting a rav about which party to favor would be like quoting a rav on whether to wear a raincoat (without including information such as the weather when he made the quote).
2. In 2023, the Democrats include an openly anti-Semitic wing and they may be able to exercise of veto over the party. The Republicans contain an isolationist wing which while not anti-Semitic, and sympathetic to Zionism, would render the United States incapable of giving Israel meaningful assistance if (as appears to be happening) the fighting shifts from disorganized terrorists, to regular armed forces supported by Russia, China and Iran.
3. We should be asking for the Democrats to treat their WOKE wing the way the Republicans have dealt in the recent past when white supremacists managed to get he Republican nomination (e.g. David Duke, they said to abstain or vote Democrat). One would like to see Democrats refusing to support WOKE candidates who endorse mass murder of Jews.
4. But the Republicans’ price for aiding Israel is to throw Ukraine under the bus, leading to a major victory for the Sino-Russian alliance. Another Republican is deliberately trying to block all promotions for a reason unrelated to national security. What Israel needs now is a strong United States military, which the Republicans are just as unenthused about as the Democrats.
You need to trace the maternal ancestry back at least 200 (or at least until someone who you can establish was frum). For Ashkenazim, the movements towards intermarriage and people going OTD in large numbers began about 250 years ago. Since the Euro-American custom is for a child to have the father’s surname, the name itself gives you no useful information about whether the great-great-great-grandmother was a Yid.
American foreign aid is for weapons. Recipients are normally expected to pay their own military wages.
According to the Wall Street Journal, Russia is actively involved in supporting the people attacking Israel. Eretz Yisrael is a front in a war that includes Ukraine, and threatens to expand to all of Eastern Europe, Taiwan, the Philippines and Korea.
Those who say they support Israel but not Ukraine, or the reverse, are similar to someone who says they support a baseball team but only the players on the left side of the infield, but definitely not the first baseman or the relief pitchers. War is a “team sport”, and our team (speaking as an American) includes Israel, Ukraine, NATO, Taiwan, Philippines, South Korea and Japan. The other team consists of China, Russia, Iran and North Korea.
The only difference between war and baseball, is that if one team is really good, the other team loses interest in playing, and unfortunately Joe Biden and the Congresses (meaning, for all purposes both parties) are too distracted to get our team ready for the next season, which could be disastrous.
I suspect the person who posted this gets his information only from left wing secular media (e.g. New York Times, CNN, etc.), rather than secular media such the Wall Street Journal or Fox network. Whereas the Times tries to be the voice of the politically correct, and Fox of the conservatives, the WSJ tries to be the voice of the mainstream establishment, and their coverage of anti-Semitism and of Hamas has not been problematic from a Jewish perspective.
“Do they have a point”
If someone runs a fire safety campaign (there always is in out community, especially in Kislev), they have a point when they say “I told you so” when the house catches fire. But it doesn’t do any good to lecture on fire safety when the house is burning.
The Zionists (both the various socialist groups, and the nationalists) can be blamed for the current war (and arguably the Holocaust) based on dumb decisions made 100 years ago (and sharing credit with the British Colonial Office and the various Palestinian leaders, in that order). But the house is on fire now, and that fire is very much capable of spreading to engulf the world. And absent time travel or going to an alternative universe, there is anything we can do now to repair the mistakes of a century ago (so yes, Neturei Karta has a point, but it is moot).
You much be young. From roughly 1947 until 1991, the United States (and the world) was always within 15 minutes of sudden death (time for a rocket to appear on radar until explosion of the warhead). Both the United States and the Soviet Union (a earlier version of Russia, but much worse) kept a large number of bombers in the air ready to destroy any survivors of the first barrage of ICBMs. Many thought that 1991 was the “end of history” and the world was entering an era of peace, democracy and prosperity – we were mistaken. World wars are not pleasant, but they aren’t “Gog u-Magog”. If you are worried spend less time on the internet, and more time doing something useful. Based on past experiences of our community, Torah and Mitsvos get better results than worrying about what Biden, Trump, Putin, Xi, not to mention Bibi, are up to.
“Hostage” implies a criminal. It suggests Hamas is an organization such as the “Mafia” (which at this point in time probably should not be capitalized). It also means that Israel can execute them after a brief trial, but can not attack civilians or infrastructure in retaliation (just as if the local drug pushers live next door, you can’t blow up the building and everyone in it).
“Prisoner” implies a government. It suggests that Hamas is the lawful government of Gaza (they did win the last election), and its forces and the armed forces rather than a gang of terrorists. This means that their kidnapping civilians violates the Geneva Conventions (which apply to official armies, not criminals).
If Hamas is the genuine armed forces of a largely independent state, it makes things much more awkward for almost everyone.
Persons who supported the Nazis objected to referring to the death of Jewish non-combatants as murder. So what’s your hiddush?
The decisions that matter were made a century ago. Both the moderate zionists and the Hareidim were negotiating with the Arabs for what have been a Jewish “commonwealth” but not a sovereign nation (complete communal autonomy, economic freedom, unrestricted immigration). Two groups were outraged. One were the more fanatical zionists (both nationalists and socialists) since their dreams of a sovereign Jewish state would be destroyed. The other was the British Colonial Office, which greatly feared the emerging Arab state (possibly including all Arabs in western Asia) which included a Jewish commonwealth (and access to western tech) would undermine the British Empire. The Arabs had expected an independent state, as promised by the Allies during World War I, and had no problem if it included a non-sovereign Jewish entity.
The socialist zionists murdered the Hareidi negotiator and told the rabbanim to stay out of politics or meet the same fate. The Brits organized a pogrom targeting the Hareidim (note that encouraging religious and ethnic clashes was the standard modus operandi of the British Empire). Most Hareidim learned to live with the zionists and avoid anything more than asking for handouts and a bissel of autonomy. Neturei Karta went on saying “I told you so”, but its a century too late to do anything to end the war. Almost all Israelis will settle for nothing less the full national self-determination, and almost all Arabs will settle for nothing less than a single Islamic state “from the river to the sea”. It could indeed lead to World War III and the destruction of the world as we know it, but that is up to Ha-Shem, and it would be reasonable to notice that the goyim’s persecution of the Yidden would be the ultimate cause.
Those compiling such statistics often are unable to differentiate between what have become, for all purposes, two separate communities. One community is defined by observance of kashrus and Shabbos (which totally define where you can work and live) and tend to be social conservatives and the other is almost totally assimilated into American culture. The former tend to vote Republicans on a national level, and the latter tend to be solid Democrats. If the Democrats are unwilling to expel the wing of their party that supports mass murder of Jews, there may be some shifting. I strongly suspect the increased gun ownership among Jews is among frum Jews, since we are the only ones who can readily be identified as Jews.