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ujm > Republicans should double the size of the federal circuit courts,
note that R- are relatively restrained here (as it fits “conservatives”). It is usually D-s who break the rules/tradition, like filibuster for judges, and then R-s get one chance to retaliate. This is a losing game – both for the country as safeguards are thrown away one-by-one (who remembers now that Senators were supposed to be appointed by State legislation?) ; and also it is always advantage D-s when a next breach will occur. One of Trump’s attractions was that he is capable of fighting same level as opponents, without restricting to an honorable but losing position.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantujm, see my comment above. You can use a klal a priori to recommend not to have Gemora in Bays Yaakov, but when you meet a Beruriah and she corrects your speech, you better pay attention.
Empirical evidence: when my daughters hear Daf Yomi I am listening, they do not care much. But when there is an interesting sugya and I describe it to them, they have no problem understanding and relating to their other learning and human psychology.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantSyag > I don’t think finding out the truth is as easy as clicking a link. I believe clicking the link is what fed them the garbage.
I agree. It is not easy to figure out what is true on hot issues. I sometimes read a pretty convincing claim (yesterday: there is British report that shows that masks at schools did not help) that I am suspicious of only because it contradicts my prior views. I actually go to this 20-page report and it says mostly the opposite several times on page 1 and an ambiguous caution note at p. 15 that was (mis)quoted. Now, if I would not suspect it, I would buy the argument. If I would not read the report, I would have partly discounted my previous views.
This is a total failer of free speech. The original American idea was let’s everybody say whatever they want, so that the public can evaluate their claim. By now, free speech is weaponized by references to pseudo-statistics, and the public now includes people with no ability to analyze those claims.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantthe middle is enabling the extremists. Currently, political parties can precisely slice the electorate into blocks and divide it close to 50% (not the total votes, but the power – see Senate at 50%, House at 51%, Electoral college by 10Ks of votes). So, when it is impossible to change any of the voter preferences by reasoning, then all you can do is outrage people so that more of them actually vote (as US has lower voting rates than other countries) and engage extremists. Then, politicians are reluctant to offend those easily-offended crazies to such degree that, for example, Trump who did great things in vaccine developments can’t praise that without being booed.
Trump expressed the same in much shorter way, addressing the Black community with “what do you have to lose”? It is now acknowledged that he significantly moved Hispanics to the right, so there is some hope. Not sure whether any English-speaking electorate is capable of changing their opinions.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantujm, what is your principle? There is a clear difference here: either you trust majority and then you are in favor of pure democracy, or you want to be more conservative and create various entities and slow-down rules that require super-majorities and agreement across different geographic areas and social groups for law-making. There was even an original proposal to introduce the same in the executive (3 co-presidents representing north, middle, south). Polish seim used to have a veto system – where one member was able to block legislator and this eventually failed the country, including due to foreign (Russian) influence who could always buy off a couple of members.
So, if you are looking for a middle ground, you need to look at it empirically – did we go too far in one or another direction? Looking over 200+ years, US seems to be doing not bad comparing with peers. Looking more at the downside – US escaped a lot of social turmoil that grappled Europe and corrupted government of South America. Maybe England, Canada, and Australia have comparable success, but they can’t defend democracy in the world lately without US. Is the secret simply in speaking English and being separated y water from Europe?!
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantImmediate use of this hysteria is to give cover for getting rid of filibuster in the Senate: 3 D- senators who actually signed a letter 5 years ago that they’ll stand by the filibuster rule now are saying that “J6 changed everything”. A professor admonishes young politicos who blame Republicans for “standing in the way of progress”, takes them through history and explains that you actually need to “blame the constitution”. He means it in a literal sense – not to explain that the youngsters are wrong, but that rather than getting rid of republicans, they need to get rid of the constitution to move forward.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantHow do general rules work? Rav Yehuda is not dismissing Beruriah just because an average lady is not boke in shas. As my first statistics teacher, my grandmother O’H who never took a formal course used to say: a cow drowned in a river that was on average up to her knee.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantWe should not have so many therapists. Maybe let’s have having less problems. Raise your hand if your school teachers have training in psychology, if you as a parent (or your parents) had some training. And results of any follow-up evaluation on how teacher/parent performs.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantGadol, sounds like the J6 reruns worked as sobering medicine for your tds, or should we just call it a “retroactive vaccine”? great news
re:vaccine, let’s do retrospective review: original ph. 3 results were:
20x reduction in transmission 2 weeks after 2nd vaccine, assuming same behaviors.what changed or is better understood now:
for getting infected:
1) effect gradually decreases from 2 weeks, so several months later it maybe 5x not 20x
2) did not change: effect is roughly the same for all age groups, with similar decrease for all
3) variants decreased effectiveness
4) there seems to be a conclusion that 3-4 weeks between doses is too short. Better to have more time between them to get longer immunity that is now being improved by boosters. The idea was to get to full 2-doses faster. I think Brits are doing 2 months now, but US still does 3 weeks.
Here, as in other aspects, the big guy dismissed former guy’s successful team and also his own advisors who were useful for pre-election PR and relied solely on government thinkers, severely limiting new ideas, so public policy flows by itself uncontrolled.5) mixing mRNA and JJ/AZ seems to work well (JJ first), but not tested/advertised enough – companies do not care and gov did not pursue
6) kids were underestimated. They were first presumed not to contribute to transmission.
for serious sickness:
1) immunity seems to be holding against variants and time pretty well despite variants
2) vaccines were not optimized for long-term T-cell production. There are several vaccines in development that try to focus on that. Maybe months away from productionAlways_Ask_QuestionsParticipantyou see, last year – some Yidden did not learn for a day, and the world almost fell apart, windows broken, senators in danger, and a brandon was certified President. Tells you to take your learning seriously.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantcrazy,
people used not to have information, now they have too much information. They clearly can not process it. It did not sgtart now, maybe 100-200 years ago with mass propaganda – newspapers, then radio, Tv, etc. We got anarchists, communists, nazis – all masses of people following crazy ideas. So, maybe things are not getting worse, they were bad for quite some time!So, when dealing with issues that are understood for some time, like taxes and schools – society has established positions and most people can navigate between them. Suddenly with an unusual situation, people lose ability to navigate situation as their reasoning abilities were never high.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira, ok. There was a Rav, whom I also can call a Rebbe the way you do, who moved to EY and was asked – which party do you support? He answered firmly: party of Moshe Rabbeinu!
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantTS Baum, I hear you, but we should take that learning mood and project it to the rest of our lives.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantLittle frogie, pay attention: the czar already switched to gregorian calendar and learn how the knight moves!
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantcoffee > why you are asking the CR instead of a rabbi
if you discuss first with hevrusas, then you can clarify your question. Furthermore, I once asked a Rav what is important in answering questions (it is his main occupation, after all). He answered – most important is to help the person clarify his question.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantshlucha, please let us know the answer and the references!
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantThere is no doubt that the concept of a gadol/gaon/etc existed in various times, but to what degree it matters might have changed. I am wondering whether litvishe world got influenced by chasidim to some degree – having an identifiable leader seems to be popular.
In general, it is a republican idea: you ask a shaila of you rov, he asks of his rosh yeshiva, and he asks someone higher. This graph generates one or more figures at the top. Some may be specialized in certain areas, others – more general. Say, Rav and Shmuel were both gedolim, but we accept their psak based on the topic. Not sure whether the difference of expertise was apparent at their time or established over time. We see something similar now – there are people for whom Rav Chaim is a posek for learning, but for covid halokhos they don’t hold by him and go to ploni ben shapiro.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantjackk,
first Tevet 23 was on Dec 27!Furthermore, I bet this would not have entered your mind, if you wouldn’t be tuning into some news or site or paper. Please, please tell us what caused your mind dwell on that, I am really curious how this enters our community.
Also, it is a yohrtzeit of 3,000 Americans who died from Covid on that day and 1,300 who died today – 6 to 12 months after Brandon “shut down the virus”.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant>> and my 3rd answer, Rav chaim, made him very settled… I have never met Rav chaim, but I knew it would make him happy to say it.
maybe this was not worded accurately? What is the heter to change words even if you are speaking to a drunk, and even if he is a husid. Or was he physically threatening you?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantsmerel > An unheard of 19th century author
avira >> On the other hand, klal yisroel has adopted this story – when we start dismissing such traditions out of hand, we are on a slippery slopeThis is a slippery slope. Kuzari principle states that the Torah is proven v. other religions because it was given publicly to millions of people, rather than a small band of people, and then passed thru generations and could not have been conceivably introduced later on. If we take our trust in Golem to the same degree, we will successfully disprove Kuzari.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRe: Ravina,
front page article provides this explanation for a more drastic case:
> there can be a complete disconnect between an individual’s talent and the evil that he commitsI don’t agree with this. I think this is downplaying what a Talmid Chacham is.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> I don’t follow so Sherlock Holmes, and Peter Pan have some truth because they are so well known?
Can we stop destroying everything!? I personally was in Sherlock Holmes’ home and I have a (Purim) hat to prove it.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira, why are you questioning someone’s ability based on a klal and a book you read. This is unbecoming.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira > I’m not going to cry over others’ misbehaviors;
Do we have a source that condemns women who learned Gemorah properly? R Eliezer says it is like teaching them shtus, but b’deavad – if they did not learn shus, would it be OK? R Yehuda talks favorably about Beruriah – not for learning Gemorah, but for learning Gemorah well – and from multiple teachers. Or, would you say, if someone did something risky and survived – she did an aveirah? Even with this, R Eliezer’s position seems to apply to the teacher, not to the student.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantIf you think Maharal is so awesome, you should cling to each of his words. Let’s raise hands here – how many books by Maharal did you learn?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantSyag, are you saying that there were no people who refused to wear masks? We had lovely discussions here with people explaining how bad masks are. Same in person, here and, as reported by reliable witnesses in other towns. Maybe I am not understanding your definition.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantsame article on applicability of the Harayot priorities:
Rabbi Auerbach states it is impossible to apply these rules in our times.Rabbi Feinstein seconds this approach.
Minchat Shlomo, 86:60
Iggrot Moshe Choshen Mishpat 2 73:2, 75:2
Along these lines the Mishnah Berurah states that we have no Torah Scholars in our time and this cannot be used as a way to decide, which person should be saved fi rst (547:12), the Magen Avraham states this as well.Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantFrom the same article on pandemics, fascinating references:
Tzitz Eliezer vol. 9 28:3 – if you can spend same amount of vaccine on 100 old OR 1000 young patients saving, on average, same number of lives. for older people, you reduce chance of dying, for young – eliminate completely. We give vaccine to younger – claim for certain saving is higher than uncertain.
based on Pri Megadim Siman 328 in the Mishbatzot ZahavTzitz Eliezer 9:17 a physician should put himself in danger in order to stop an epidemic and save
more lives, as opposed to the regular situation where a physician is prohibited from placing his life in dangerRabbi Daichovsky told the author, we must vaccinate the super-vectors, a.k.a. young children, because they are considered Rodfi m, one who pursues another individual to kill him. we vaccinate health care workers before anyone else. This is because health care workers are needed to fight the epidemic
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantquoting from a secondary source Rationing During a Pandemic Flu Aryeh Dienstag (this is pre-covid article!). There are multiple reference to value of people to society
Horiyot 13: men over women (in saving, but not in ransom), kohen over israel over mamzer, but Talmid Chacham before Am Haaretz, even if a King [T’Ch is irreplacable, King not]
Mishnah Berurah (OC: 547:22) – there are no Talmidei Chachamim at our times [AAQ: this might have changed 🙂 seems not to be the current opinion, though]
Rambam on Mishna Haroyot 3:8 – we do save King before Talmid Chacham because people need him
R Tendler: human life is infi nite and therefore cannot be prioritized objectively. Practically, however, society may need certain persons more than others and therefore prioritization can be used
R Oshry (Shoah, selecting people to send to die): duty of community leaders to take courage and operate in any way they saw fit to save as many people as possible
R Auerbach: age does not go into the equation of whom one saves first. What one should only look into is the level of danger and the chance to save the most people
private communication with Rabbi Daichovsky he told the author that there is a value in saving people whom society needs in order to preserve a functional society
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantGadol > in some deep Red jurisdictions
I am sure this is also happening. The path on both sides, seems to be – we will counter their lies with our lies, and then double them. This is not going to end well. At least as public schools are going, they are funded by the taxpayers and should generally reflect taxpayers’ will (which may differ by state).
A typic al example would be a US government high school class where in one of the first classes the teacher starts explaining that Senate is not representative and he wishes that would be changed. I am sure this is his opinion and he is very sincere. Still, this is not what he was hired for. But a possible solution is not that hard:
1) publish curriculum
2) do random testing of students and see if an abnormal number of them hold biased opinionsAlways_Ask_QuestionsParticipanta MUCH more problematic case is a story about illiterate peasants coming to a Jewish mill. The miller will count the sacks by putting a penny for every sack. Then, the miller will go to the back to get the money to pay. The peasant will see the pennies and steal them …
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRed > any different than buying day-old bread from a bakery
difference is that the store sells day-old vbread as “day old”. Here they advertise “one week rentals”, they do not suggest “two for one week”, they just cannot accept a return during their week off. At least, this is how I understood it.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantYou seem to have 2 concerns:
1) taking away business from the company. Chofetz Chaim would tear up a post office stamp whenever he would send a letter with someone travelling to the same destination. So, this is definitely a valid concern but also a hiddur. Furthermore, in his case, this is an ongoing and self-initiated problem – if a lot of people will stop using mail, the losses will disrupt the service. In your case, it is a once-a-year thing and they made the rules.2) appearing to be scheming. How about you just tell them your plans and ask their opinion? Only you had to ask an owner, not an employee who does not care. Maybe suggest a small extra fee to make it agreeable.
actually 3) doing business with non-Jews around their holidays. If nobody comes, and here is their regular Jewish customer who helps fill the season, will they praise whoever for that?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantThere are productive ways to deal with CR: Soth Carolina is considering bill that will require schools to post detailed curriculum. This sounds like a great idea for transparency – along with testing (for knowledge, not just covid).
January 5, 2022 9:47 am at 9:47 am in reply to: 🦠😷Raise Your Hand if You’re in Quarantine!😷🦠 #2048333Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantSyag, are they now sequencing for individual patients? I thought it is done only “on average” for like 1% of cases. Interesting.
It makes sense that communities that had previous waves will be mostly affected by omicron, plus also high propagation in schools. By the way, we can also learned from the ways of non-Jews: see what propagation is happening when they celebrate and travel and then they stand in long lines to test? Similar things were probably happening in our communities during holidays, it just did not get in the news.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantGadol > CRT is a great social wedge
It has substance. You can grapple with a specific “CRT” wording, but it is a fact that schools do propaganda, in many cases left-wing one. If you want to be talking to people with different views, it would be helpful if you recognize the facts before arguing an opinion.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantujm, I just quoted a psak by R Grodzinsky that uses profound (long term, for others) priorities that evaded the Rabbis who were asking the question (who looked at short-term risk to the people themselves). This should make you think and research what else is out there.
You need to be careful evaluating halakha in some cases. If it was looking at an abstract case dealing with just one parameter – status of people involved – then it does not mean that decision might not be different in other cases. I just brought a psak, there may be more complexities here. Feel free to expand.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantujm > maximum number of passengers possible given the fact that there are insufficient space
ujm, in practical situation, there are additional factors that will be used:
sort everyone by weight and size (lowest to highest), although one could argue that a fatter person have higher chance of survival (both food and buoyancy)
more important – skills that will help everyone to survive – rowing, doctors, radio amateurs
most important – those whose survival will be important in a longer term – when they land on an island, or even when they come back home. See Teshuva by R Grozdensky in Vilno, 1940 a month before it was occupied. They asked who should get Sugihara visas – older Rabbis who will be first to be arrested and killed, or the younger ones who will lose their children to shmad. He answered older ones – because (1) they’ll be able to help remaining ones better when they come to America, and (2) they are more important for American JewsAlways_Ask_QuestionsParticipantHave a check-out system like bottle deposits:
you take a book, put a dollar. you return a book, take a dollar.
if someone does not care and leaves a book, someone else can put it back and take a dollar.Use tokens on shabbos. Use same tokens for aliyot. You run out of tokens, no aliyot.
January 4, 2022 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm in reply to: 🦠😷Raise Your Hand if You’re in Quarantine!😷🦠 #2048132Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantSyag > My symptoms were seemingly unaware that the omicron was supposed to be mild
Refuah shleimah. Sorry if I was harsh on you, did not know you are posting under distress 🙂
Given that your previous covid was wuhan long ago, this one might have been delta, not omicron. There is almost as much delta now as a month ago, it is just a “low percentage” of the total.Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantyehudis > can be truly heroic .. And on the flip side …no one is intrinsically better than anyone else
I agree and disagree. Truly, a moment of challenge reveals a lot. Gemora defines these moments as “kiso, koso, vekaaso”. And in this case, we had all of this – a lot of financial issues clouding decisions; anger at others for whatever reason, and, I suspect (supported by purchase stats 🙂 – some drinking also.
I disagree with “kulanu shavim”. People whom I respected and looked up to mostly continued doing good things, often more than usual; and those whom I avoided before, it is now easier to keep 4 amot/6 ft away. What was interesting, the Syag’s “third option”, beinoni, I guess, which was the majority of people I know. Many of those revealed to belong to one of the 2 groups Either I did not notcie before, or their character revealed in crisis.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantsounds like it is an open secret that every regular customer would know. They understand in advance that they are giving it to you for 2 weeks.
The only question might be that you would otherwise have it for 2 weeks and pay them more, so you are depriving them of livelihood. It sounds like absent this opportunity, you would pay for the week and use for the week, right? Then, they have no loss and you an extra convenience. Of course, it is a slippery slope to convince yourself that you really need 1 week, but in this case, you actually did it already.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantn0 > Modesty is the opposite of needing attention
when a certain senator was trying to define tznius into legislation, he was asked to give a strict definition of what lack of tznius is. He answered: I know when I see it.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantcheating businesses will lose out: they now post prices as $9.99 to make you feel it is less than $10. now, they’ll have to go to $9.95, losing 4 cents.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRW > psychological reason that they don’t see the actual money leaving their hand
exactly! Paying with a card requires higher psychological efforts to limit yourself from over-spending. Any invisible object is harder to perceive and react accordingly. Same with virus (v. wild animals). Same with Hashem (v. idols).
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantYS > paid cash for anything besides a babysitter?
quarters for parking. Pennies for kids to pay into a pushka in a store. Never paid cash or anything to a babysitter. My wife barely lets me to stay with kids.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRw > how do you explain math of a 100 cents equate to a dollar,
you won’t. With Brandon’s inflation, dollars will be new cents soon. Italians used to pay in “milli-liras” (one word) rather than liras.
January 4, 2022 1:21 am at 1:21 am in reply to: 🦠😷Raise Your Hand if You’re in Quarantine!😷🦠 #2047944Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantHa, that explains all the posting bursts here! Tell us what new and productive things you were able to do at home?
January 3, 2022 10:43 pm at 10:43 pm in reply to: Khaled the Shabbos goy and the terrible bloodlibel lie #2047895Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantKuvult > treat everyone like a Mensch.
HaGaon Henrich Heine gives a practical advice – try everyone once, just make sure that if someone breaks your trust, make sure you don’t give hi a second chance (this is what we call now “abuse”). you will have some losses, but you can live carefree with some minor losses.
January 3, 2022 10:42 pm at 10:42 pm in reply to: Khaled the Shabbos goy and the terrible bloodlibel lie #2047896Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAlso, this story tells you about long-term ramifications of a minor act. This old Yid’s chocolates and brachot reverberate half-century later. Imagie if he would just called the boy, said “nu”, and then sent him away with a quick nod?
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