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November 6, 2022 9:21 am at 9:21 am in reply to: The future of the democracy of the U.S. government #2135715Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
Tangental, but Chanad Fredrike Rebbe quotes a mill owner in 17th century who would run after a peasant to return several perutot saying that mabul was because of stealing pess than perutah, he does not want to be worse than that. I am quoting this story rather than the midrash itself to emphasize that this is how tzadikim used to understand this. Maybe it was in generations where other issues did not apply.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantThis is also discussed in Nedarim. Many people use chumros in the way of nedarim, taking upon themselves obligations that may not be necessary, even if they are praiseworthy. The goal of such nedarim is to motivate or protect themselves. As gemora says here, you can say “I am taking neder like reshayim” but not “like tzadikim” because the first ones like doing nedarim.
Note that I am talking here about yehidim. The question whether a community in our times does better with more chumros is a separate issue, and I am meikel here allowing more chumros 🙂
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAgree with a lot of posters here:
Fair statement about people being meikel because they simply disregard halakha and also about being meikel with chochma often helps.Totally disagree that someone who learns whole life gets in a better olam habo. For example, Issachar/Zevulun partnership means that both get the same one, as far as I know. So, anyone who works and support the other one (either directly or pays full, or close to, tuition at Jewish schools thus supporting both those who teach and who do not pay much) should get a share of each person they support. I don’t know hw olam habo maths work, but this can add up to a bigger share.
But biggest issue is – meikel/machmir in what? If the Yoshon Reuven above is also a baal chesed, tzedokah, davens w/ kavana, etc, this is one thing, but if he is not a good husbanf, father, neighbor, co-worker – then not.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantthe classical requirement is to divide your time in 3: mikra, mishna, talmud. Later empahsized Gemora more as one needs to finish all 3 and the latter is more important. This is all good, modern world indeed requires more Talmud (in a wider sense – ability to reason about mitzvos, not simply learn pesukim (mikra) and known halakha as in “mishna”). Still, this later statement does not fully negate Nach … so, say, if you are doing 7+ years of daf yomi, you should either do full Tanach and Mishna before that, or finish them in the same 7 years, even if takes you 10 minutes a day.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantHad gadya?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantMy favorite explanation is that the question is not on R Shimon but on R Akiva – how is he giving an answer that the expert on esim does not? Because he saw integrity of R Shimon worthy comparison w/ Hashem.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRebE > The IDF killed a terrorist who was slaughtering a cow for his own wedding in broad daylight.
this is better, but still ambiguous: what was in board daylight – IDF, slaughter, wedding. If the wedding was planned in board daylight, then the other events might have happened at narrow moonlight. Also, not clear why the breadth of the daylight is relevant to the two slaughters animals.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> yiddishe shochtim used to schecht animals for the Arabs
this happened in other places, where Yidden and Muslims lived together, especially if both groups were subjugated to a third party. I believe it works for Sunnis but not Shia. The joint business works this way: each shechts their own, but the Jews schecht more so that their remainders can go to Muslims.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> were “trained” in the English-studies programs of our yeshivos
this is not fair. Headlines in other sources are no less misleading! I suspect that there is a special program for headline writers, as this is the main source of clickbait revenue, articles themselves are not that important.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantsyag > My JSS Hebrew teacher was the first professor I had at YU who addressed a class of male YU students with, ….
Syag > There is an atmosphere of acceptanceI think you misunderstand the first quote (I tracked down the original article so that others don’t have to). He is saying that this particular teacher was the _first_ one who was “accepting”, all the other ones were not, as it says just 3 line above your quote, so things are not as bad as you are afraid of (or at least were 5 years ago):
>> It’s hard to feel welcomed into a community that doesn’t want you. There needs to be a change in YU so that students can feel that they are welcome and that the community wants them to be a part of it.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantYabia, I agree in general, but more likely Ashkenazim descend from a small group of people, so their mesorah is simply is not representative of the broader tradition. Then, from times of haskala, we started relying on printed and, recently, on Roshei yeshivos to enforce uniformity at further loss of diversity of mesorahs.
Sfaradim (a loose term that usually includes everyone else) are not one mesora, they are multiple mesorahs, probably almost as different from each other as they are from Ashkenazim.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantIt seems to me that Rav’s concern about Nach was not about missionaries but about more prevalent Israeli schools where Nach might be read exclusively in nationalistic terms, and we do not want this in a yeshiva.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantphil, we need to be more specific when protecting against the missionaries. What exactly we should point in KJ to highlight their problems?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantReb E – exactly. Thanks, I did not know how many es-ens are there… Now, I will have to double-check!
This really highlights his gadlus. In modern language his theory was 100% correct after 2600 tests and then became 99.96% correct, enough to reject…
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAs many noted, probably a majority of the government faction are shomer shabbat.
So, now comes the challenge – as the whole world looks with a magnifying glass at Am Isroel – will they see am kadosh venavon or will they see infighting and hillul Hashem? One of the haverei knesset is quoted as saying to a loser: “we will treat you fairly, we are not animals like you”, which is encouraging sans the comparison…
So, if davening for election results or skipping tachanun may or may not be appropriate, davening for the new government to be wise and honorable is certainly appropriate.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> how is gemara any less the word of God than chumash?
a false dichotomy? any gemora discussion presumes full knowledge of Tanach. Nobody is saying “maybe there is another pasuk about this”. All relevant psukim are quoted. There is more confusion with oral Torah, everyone knew the mishnayos, but not the other sources.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantlet’s continue with the daf! Nedarim defines rasha/tzaddik in the following way: how responsible is a person with his words. A rasha tends to make nedarim (to motivate himself) – high-stake promises that cause complications, such as when an animal dies, you need to find another. A tzadik does nedava – dedicating a specific animal, and if something happens with it, the nedava is gone. The best way is to take the animals to the doors of BM and do nedava right before entering. No risk of false promises.
To extrapolate, a tzaddik thinks thru all practical implications of his decisions and talks and acts accordingly. A similar business concept is called “managing risks” rather than embracing it “bravely”
(aka foolishly). So, if you organize your life and what you do for others in a right way, you are a tzaddik. How do you achieve that is immaterial – if learning tosfos brings you there, shoin. If Ben Ish Hai stories teach you common sense, tov meod.Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantYou did not notice even bigger dikduk problems in the headline:
does “his wedding” refer to the terrorist or to the cow?
or maybe, the cow is the subject who shechts terrorists – and gets eaten “for his own wedding”:
terrorist-shechting Cow, for his wedding, is eliminated.a halachic (sharia-wise) question would be – is the meat still mutar if the terrorist did not fully finish zabihing before being eliminated, or finished zabihing after being eliminating while falling on his knife.
furthermore, presuming the cow is OK, then can the bride get married same day to the terrorist’s brother not to waste the cow before aveilus starts? If yes, they need to act quickly (both marrying and eating) before IDF arrests them as accessories to terrorism and destroys the house.
I think this is addressed in Beitza 25 by R’ Akiva regarding eating from the live animal at the end of yontiff.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantyungerman,
it is ok to teach alef beis after you learned alef beis (heard from R Shapiro Z’L). A corollary – do not teach alef beis before you learned it!Similarly, here the point is that only after a person realizes his own deficiencies, tries to fix them, and realizes how hard it is, he is ready to thoughtfully approach other people. Otherwise, you’ll have a silly person who did not examine his own middos pompously telling others how to live their lives.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantHere is some fire for the most ridiculous context of which tzadikim are more tzedek:
students of Chofetz Chaim were learning Mishna Berura and found a reference to a sefer that was not in the yeshiva. They went to the Rav’s house and asked him to loan them this sefer. Rav did not have it at home, but said someone in another town, just an hour on a train, has it. Students were stunned – Rebbe, you are quoting this sefer and you do not have it at home to learn? Yes, he said, it will cost money and gelt ist tzait and tzait is Toirah…To contrast, R Ovadia lived in a small apartment and worked there. People who were in the apartment testified that he does not own numerous books that he is quoting and is doing it frmo memory, without taking the train.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantApparently, it is not the first time, Jews are bending curriculum to make sure we are different from the opposition. We used to have 10 commandments as a central part of service, and now it is an optional personal reading. We started insisting that we focus on mitzvos v. emunah in opposition to christians … and now Nach because it was/is misused by Maskilim/Israeli public schools. It may be fine for general education, but learned people should understand better. Otherwise, as we hear here, suddenly so many books that Hashem ordered for us become “non-essential” in some minds. If Hashem meant to give us Bavli, he would have done it.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira, I think there are 2 things to consider on Sephardi limud:
1) (generalizing, of course) they indeed tend to go into pilpul like Ashkenazim. Many commentaries include stories. This does not make their limud lower. To the opposite, I often find them addressing the core issues rather than dealing with some complicated borderline relevant issue. This may be akin to difference between Yerushalmi and Bavli, as we discussed before: Yerushalmi is more focused (and looked down at wild Babylonians), while Babylonians developed a complicated – and useful – methodology.
2) Sephardim did not have haskala. So, when they arrived in 20th century to modern world, they encountered same isues Ashkenazim did 200 years before. Syrians in NY did not do worse than French and Germans in Europe. On the other hand, pretty soon they jumped up on Ashkenazim bandwagon of developed solutions (schools, conservative halakha, shtreimels) and went through the painful process much faster. (same as, l’havdil, Afrikans get wireless internet skipping putting phone cables Europeans did fro 100 years before).
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantExercise, like learning or working, does not need to be a chore and it is fine to enjoy it.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI learned a tradition from a Polish Yid who went thru concentration camp and taught me just several shiurim when we met while traveling: Yiddishkeit can be best “proven” from Jewish history. One needs to know it then (and surrounding history too).
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantYitz, Sam,
good points. Maybe he means that the person needs at least appreciate the magnitude of the task – and consider how hard it is for yourself – before taking upon the task of helping others?Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira, a good question whether such a club should be guided by experienced professionals. now, tell me how do places that do not have clubs deal with these issues? Do we have professionals to deal with various issues that arise?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantProbably Bavel with Jewish community existing for ~2500 years, uncluding Naviim, Amoraim, Gaonim
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira > mixed dancing, is something that’s also far worse than women washing clothes
We are talking about actual washing clothes in a river rather than using a washing machine, right? I am not sure you either saw or know how to do that.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantJ4B > Should we not suggest solutions to problems because we will always have our own problems?
a great question. I recall halochos of tochacha say something similar – one should not reproach others when they have problems in the same area. That is, OK to do that in areas you are a tzaddik. R Salanter, seems to be taking a more “holistic” approach. Besht uses a similar approach saying that one can not use permissible ways to “change his words” if he really lied at least once in his life (this is quoted on the last page of the thin book “Lying for truth” after listing all permissible ways – quoting it on the first page would have made it even thinner).
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantJ4B, Taking gadol’s question (more) seriously – if I personally fail the way R’YS did, I’ll be fine with that.
Even more seriously: why would one disclose his failure? It got to be l’maase. That is, it should make us feel better when we fail – even he R’YS did – and continue further. Without that, we could simply turn to warmer religious activities than mussar.
October 31, 2022 10:51 pm at 10:51 pm in reply to: Have you ever received a traffic ticket that you did not deserve? #2134165Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipanta good idea to get a dashcam. Then, you’ll be able to review your behavior. Also, there are apps that record phone accelerometer. Count of times you had to break at high-g is a good predictor of your chance of getting into an accident. So, if your count increases over time or is higher than your peers, you need to change how – or where, or when, or whether – you should drive.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantwhere are you all in a hurry? Do seconds of learning something matter to you? Are you NORAD?!
Just have YWN and NYT delivered to you in print on Sunday and learn the rest of the week
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantphil > so are you trying to say that for various reasons it’s ok
I am not paskening in this forum in the presence of so many gedolim. What I am saying, that I can imagine K’s Rav telling K that he can attend a certain event under certain conditions. This does not mean that the Rav will be calling the whole shul to attend all events regardless…
As an example, I was once invited by a Reform “Rabbi” and a female clergy to assist them in a “mitzva” of affixing a “mezuza” to a “Jewish” family of “immigrants”. I am running out of quotes … l’tzad zhut, maybe they were marronos, but the clergy was not bilingual enough to figure it out anyway. I was ready to politely reject the offer, but then decided to bother a local (chasidishe) Rav and ask him. To my shock, he suggested that I go. And to my further shock, I actually went… I won’t bother you with details of his reasoning, this was particular to the case, but this is an illustration of how strange psak might be.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantwhat do we know .. . one sefer reports two trains in Sep 1939 traveling towards each other, from Nazi-occupied to Soviet-occupied area and other way around, with Jews in both trains shouting to the others to turn around and not go to the place of danger ..
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantOr use a phone siddur that does reminders. At least on a day you feel you need a reminder.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantPut yourself a multi-year reminder in google calendar
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantThe final message from the President before the election seems to be – “it is someone else’s fault”. Looks like giving such a speech before an election, reminding voters that (1) prices are high (2) he will always blame others will be as successful as predicting longevity of Afghani government.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantgadol > what hope is their for all the slightly lesser
your humility demonstrates that progress is possible, even for a gadol. This is encouraging for all of us.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantLearn from others: some fancy corporations, like Google, built fancy game and dining rooms, claiming that their employees love to stay at work and use those. Now that they let employees work from home, the managers are not able to convince employees to come back to the fancy game rooms. Turns out, employees would rather stay at home and play in their own game rooms.
The lesson might be: content of your yeshiva should be the reason to stay there.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantIf you put winnings to tzedokah – will they still be taxed?
If I have a non-profit school and collect $1 bln in tuition – do I owe taxes?
So, what if I donate a ticket to the non-profit before the drawing or a non-profit buys a ticket?Also, if a business buys a ticket, could winnings be used against losses? or taxed as business income?
asking for a friend.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantto search in google:
bar mitzva site:https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroomAlways_Ask_QuestionsParticipantWhen I was in yeshiva, I wanted to fix the whole world.
then, I became a blogger, and I wanted to fix CR
then, I became a Rav and I wanted to fix the city
then, I wanted to fix my family
then, I decided to focus on myself first – and I failed at that. (R Salanter)Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantWe all may be underestimating breadth of halachik opinions. I just got a newletter with a shaila about gnevat daas trying to encourage customers to give more tips by pretending others did so! They asked 4 (four) poskim and all gave different answers – asur, mutar, improper, can do it if not so obvious. The one who said “asur” then agreed with the one who suggested making it no so obvious. Possibly same here. Presuming Kuvult has a serious Rav, he might have good reasons to permit. Maybe he takes into account Kuvult’s tzidkus that all of them are like white geese (as w/ R Yohanan) or his failing eyesight, or that his wife may make his life impossible and he will not be able to learn for a week. We don’t know and it is aint our business. Ask your Rav and possibly he’ll tell you to never do it based on how he saw your glances towards the mehitza during davening.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantymribiat, a great point. Maybe there should be a joint Toeva Anonymous club, a system endorsed by R Twersky Z’L, with both financial and sexual abusers eligible to attend. They can ponder together how these issues came together.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI understand the issue is important, but why two threads!?
October 29, 2022 8:46 pm at 8:46 pm in reply to: condemning a candidate due to sickness or old age. #2133491Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvram, I agree that we value age, even without wisdom. Gemora in kidushin seems to leave it ambiguous do we primarily honor wisdom or stam old age, as every old person acquires experience that is worthy honoring… Definitely, many people write that the current president showed empathy by relating to either his tragic family or people he met, including Holocaust survivors..
Still, when we elect a person who was not bright when he was young and in middle age, he gets set in his ways and prone to flattery and start acting with hubris, leading to disasters.
October 29, 2022 8:45 pm at 8:45 pm in reply to: Is YU officially a modern-Orthodox institution? #2133486Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantUjm, I am reluctant to read research on this topic, but could you check whether they traced these numbers through time and countries? Making a behavior normalized might increase number of people who follow it. The more teachers put they as their pronouns, the more kids are following them.
October 29, 2022 8:44 pm at 8:44 pm in reply to: The State of Israel Formed on the Basis of Keeping the Torah #2133485Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantWhoever compares Chevron with suffering under Nazis and Soviets has no credibility. I read, in an unreliable source, that after the war the Beltzer Rebbe didn’t move to Yerushalaim because he felt he is not deserving due to advising yidden to stay in Europe.
October 28, 2022 4:12 pm at 4:12 pm in reply to: Have you ever received a traffic ticket that you did not deserve? #2133357Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI got warnings several times when I fully admitted that I was wrong, saying something like – I drove here for years and knew where you are hiding, but still pressed the gas too strong! (the road goes down there right after a turn).
In another case, long time ago, while driving in a different state, a policeman pushed behind me in the left lane in an unmarked car at night and when I accelerated to let him go, he ticketed me. I wrote a nice letter to the judge with a map of the location and all details – and the case was dismissed. I am thinking: if a policeman did something questionable to you, he most likely did this to others also, and a judge would know.
In the parking case – mail in pictures.
October 28, 2022 4:11 pm at 4:11 pm in reply to: The State of Israel Formed on the Basis of Keeping the Torah #2133354Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantinteresting topic connecting Gemora in Ketubot with the next one – Nedarim :_
what is the date on the oath shtar? If it was on in Bavel, then we had semi-state and then a state – with the permission of Persians. After that, Jews defended their state from Greeks and others during BM2. Similarly, Jews went to EY with permission of Brits and then approval of UN – literally, all goyim, something that most other states do not have. This seems like we are following the conditions of the shevua. the fact that some other goyim, who were not in charge in EY at a time, disagreed does not seem to matter. Of course, we should keep them in mind and not aggravate unnecessary (such as picking on Muslims on Har Habayit) …
Also, note that things are not better in galus/aka shtetl. Jews promised not to rebel against the governments and then participated in all kind of revolutions in Europe… And these were not some mythical “reform” Jews for whom we are not responsible. At some point, Slobodka had to send new students to Telshe yeshiva because all the current students joined socialists.
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