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common, if you were doing it in violation of state low, then the irony of you complaining about someone else’s behavior is too much here …
but let’s ask the serious question – what is halakha when 2 people have different opinions and need to act together. Say, you invite me to your house and your food is perfectly kosher by you, but I hold by some chumros. Would you feed me the food according to your standard or mine?!
another way to look at this: you treat the person according to what he needs/wants. If you like to tell funny good-natured jokes, but you know someone is a sensitive person and will get offended – then, you do not tell him the joke. You do not say – my jokes are good, and he had to deal with it … Similarly, we support a poor person according to his former standard (if we can). Same thing here, you have a person who is afraid of something – why would you not accommodate him just because you have some machlokes with the government. Just show some chesed.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantcommon, was this when your state had indoor business mask mandate?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRebE, unemployment is not a handout, it is a state-run insurance funded by your employer as percentage of your salary.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantIt is easy to exaggerate the position of your opponent and make it look ridiculous. Everyone reasonable understands that there is a need for balance between helping and self-sufficiency. I am thinking that every time handouts are given without any controls, we reduce help that might be available to those who truly needs it.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI don’t recall whether I told this story before. There was a gentleman in a nursing home in Ohio who did not have a family and was reasonably healthy. He watched when Covid started the building divided into with/without covid and gradually the covid part was increasing with more people seriously sick … he was first trying to make personnel to be more careful, but then switched to extreme measures. He would let only nurses he trusted into his room. One guy came “just to take his temperature”, so he called the manager to get the guy out … when things became even worse, he simply sealed his room leaving an opening for food and slept with open windows … They had to convince him to open the door when the vaccine came … all of that to confirm the Gemora that hakol b’yaday shamayim except cold and heat …
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantTo see what Germans were actually thinking at that time, read
The German War: A Nation Under Arms, 1939-1945 Paperback – Illustrated, May 9, 2017
by Nicholas StargardtIt goes thru time, quoting multiple german letters and diaries at that time.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantNazi Germany was not a democracy. Weimar Republic was a democracy, with a weak political system that allowed plurality (not majority) Nazis to take over the government. In 1932, Nazi got 37% (19% jump over 1928), Commies 14% (so you can say totalitarians got more than 50%). Most of this 19% increase came at the expense of very small parties, who each lost 1-3%. Social Democrats lost only 3%.
That is why it is important to watch out for “experiments” in the American system that will not lead to similar problems.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantphil, there is a big war going on there .. first large-scale war in Europe after WW2. It is a big deal despite being secondary in the news. So far, we are managing to fight it through proxies, just with money.
PS there is nothing new here – do you think “news” during WW2 were always about the front? Just looked up a random day March 5, 1941. Here are NYT headlines:
Conference at Field Failed
DRIVING TESTS
Designers Rename Valicenti
WARNING TO ATHENS; Germany Indicates Plan to Bring Pressure to End War With Italy SOVIET VIEW DISCOUNTED Reich Spokesman Says Note to Bulgaria Shows Moscow Enjoys Freedom of Action WARNING TO ATHENS GIVEN IN GERMANY
ARMY IN SHOWDOWN WITH A.F.L. STRIKERS; Assails Wright Field Walkout After It Backs Contract to C.I.O. Employer ARMY IS DEFIANT OF A.F.L. STRIKERS
THE DAY IN WASHINGTON
DR, BIJRRETT DIES; HEAD OF HOSPITALS; President of Flower and Fifth Avenue and the Medical College Since 1939 PREVIOUSLY WAS DEAN Ex-Chief of American Institute of Homeopathy — Had Taught Surgery at Michigan
Flatbush Boys Take Swim
TEANECK APARTMENT SOLD; 48-Family House Said to Have Brought $300,000
MORE MEN OF A.E.F. BACK FROM FRANCE; Ex-Doughboys Add New Details to Growing Feeling Among French Against Germans ONE TELLS OF NAZI THREAT Hitler Hordes Will Be in England in June, Then U. S. Is ‘Next,’ Gestapo Is Quoted
GUILTY PLEA CLOSES $108,000 FRAUD TRIAL; Ex-Convict Admits Insurance Thefts — Faces 7 1/2 to 14 Years
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Possibility of Americans Being Dropped From Hockey League Admitted by CalderAlways_Ask_QuestionsParticipantlostspark > can respect them fighting against the liberal secularism that seeks to destroy Russia.
this sentiment that the country feels culturally under attack and is, therefore, justified to strike back is exactly what lead Germans to support Nazis. They felt threatened by Russian Bolsheviks, British Navy, Polish nationalism, Communist and Jews playing role in 1918 revolution that they felt did not let them continue fighting in WW1 – and that, somehow, made it acceptable to lash back and murder millions. Something similar is happening in Russia right now, so let’s continue with the “blame everyone” game, surely it should work better this time.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantSo, a dayan calls TzE a “major posek” and Avira – “not a serious discussion”.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantCTL,
so CT is doing well here, I understand that is what is lacking in other places. There might be also an issue of what counts as ID. Preferably, something that verifies citizenship. And similar procedures for mail voting.Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantnobody was drinking undiluted wine during Gemora time. Like you are not drinking juice concentrate nowadays.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantThis is not about the kid. It is to illustrate how lax the rules often are and how millions of people perceive it. . For a good reason, we are a country with generally educated population. But current confusion deserves making it stricter so that there will be no doubt.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira, and your explanation that a Lakewood bays din newsletter quotes that is ” his audience is not the yeshiva world, so that article may not be a fair representation of how he actually thinks.” ?!
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAmil, I am explaining what people see: the printed instructions clearly say that new voters need to show ID. Then, they are not asked for an ID. I do not know why. Maybe Sec of State instructions do not correspond to the law. So, now this first time voter understands that anyone can come in and sign up. Would it be better if everyone would have to show an ID and people will keep faith in election integrity?
Note something that did not exist earlier: any little doubt can now be exploited by online trolls. whether paid by parties or foreign. So, the system needs to be clear and verifiable beyond any doubt.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira,
this is an article posted by a Lakewood bays din in their newsletter. “not aimed to yeshiva world” because they quote people you do not approve!? you again defien “yeshiva world” by “those who you approve of”. Not just puts them together but use appellation “major posek” inter alia, as in “among major poskim”, so it is not even remotely controversial.Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantCTL, my kid read the rules issued by our state. So, now he might take fraud claims by either Americans, or Russians and Chinese trolls as possible, despite all your good efforts. So, I think you should be the first to advocate for more stringent ID rules, reduction in mail vote, etc – so that integrity of elections is not questioned. Yes, you may lose some stray D- votes from people who misplaced their ID or who were helped by neighbors to fill out the ballot, but you should put the good of the country in having trust in elections before minor partisan advantage. At the end, if your party will have to gain votes from people with IDs, it will be better for everyone.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantOh, I see that article is the Dayan Grossman, you are simply questioning him because he is welcome both at Lakewood and in other places – and he quotes places you do not approve. In essence you are saying that you only recognize a Talmid Chacham if he is not quoting anyone “modern” and he is not accepted anywhere like that also. This is sad … One would think that if you see someone acceptable to Bais Vaad quoting someone you don’t think is koshder as a reason to question your assertion of what kosher is.
Ujm, you are right. I am not sure why a financial vaad deals with these issues. The only reason I quoted this article is to show that Tzitz Eliezer is quoted in the list of other “major poskim” according to sources acceptable to the most insular members of our community. I would though trust a dayan
in choshen mishpat to know who “major poskim” in medicine are.Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantCommon, apologize, I took your accountability mention as a fighting word rather than direct meaning. So, let’s do accountability in earnest. What are your estimates of lives lost and what balances it in different places?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira, I quoted a document with bais havaad logo, apologize I didn’t verify the author. If you can’t find it, you will have to trust me on that
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantThis could be an old minhag as during gemora times wine was always diluted before drinking
Ome Polish chosid explained a similar minhag that we show that we are not drunkards like others
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRomans had almost all officials elected annually. The idea was not to give them too much time to develop corruption and lust for power. Campaign would be less than a month. This worked for 500 years until Augustus, longer than US so far.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantCommon,
I said that before that I am in a pickle regarding daas Torah – the Rav I ask such questions, told me long time ago that there is no “daas Torah”. So, I am following DT in not following it. And if I were to follow DT, I would be in violation of DT _and_ show disrespect to my teacher, which is mefurash b’ Gemoro. But, anyway, the question on DT was for you, not for me.Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvram, see the starting post, where common demands accountability for covid protection measures. He possibly modified his position now to only blame those who “terrorize people in other communities”, which is a welcome adjustment.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira, I had to search wide to make sure I am not selecting authors that you will dismiss. So, here is an artole from Lakewood Bayis havaad on abortion, they call TzE – perhaps the most lenient major recent halachic authority, and they quote in thsi order – Ben Isha Chai, TzE, Rav Moshe, R Bleich,
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantujm,
whatever we think of german cars and russian vodka, American army is standing there for last 70 years, provided Berlin airlift and negotiated their re-unification. So, they now have luxury of buying gas from Russians, closing their nuclear plants, and making grand unfulfilled promises to send arms to Ukraine.Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantThe most report explanation is that UKR fired an air defense missile to intercept the RUS missile that was attacking something not far from the border. The air defense missile (made in USSR, I presume) did not catch the other one and then failed to explode in the air as it supposed to.
UKR are currently worried that the West is interested in a “peace” settlement too soon, letting RUS keep occupied areas. Achasheverosh advisors are now saying “up to UKR to decide when to negotiate” while applying pressure behind the scenes (these are same chachamim who were so successful in AFG and then preventing RUS start of war with “stern warnings of future sanctions”).
So, UKR are very sensitive that people in US and Europe will stop supporting them, falling for RUS propaganda, as we see some here.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantCtlawyer, thanks for your description.
I think we need a big effort to make people more assured in the integrity of elections. It is what we call moris ayn issue. Even if people can not prove that there was fraud, the sudden changes in how elections are run – such as expanded voting by mail, with limited supervision naturally creates the appearance of problems. My kid read the rules before going to his first vote and it said, black on white, that first time voters need to bring ID. So, he brought it – and was surprised that he was not asked. Now, he is going to read the right-wing blogs – and have reasons to believe them.November 19, 2022 8:55 pm at 8:55 pm in reply to: Silencing the Psychotic Medication Debate #2140413Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantYsserb, good to hear. I looked up a couple of research articles and I see that ADHD diagnoses increased from 6% to 10% of all kids between 1990s and 2018. (14% boys and 6% girls; poor 13%, rich 9%; up to 11y.o – 8%, 12-17 13%).
The first ref below mentions that UK rates are also increasing while being lower, shyly not mentioning the numbers .. UK estimates I can find are 3-5% of children as of 2013 (estimates in population, not actually treated) – so, something strange might be happening all across US – school incentives? bad parenting? overdiagnosis?
1. Twenty-Year Trends in Diagnosed Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder Among US Children and Adolescents, 1997-2016 Guifeng Xu, MD; Lane Strathearn, MBBS, FRACP, PhD; Buyun Liu, MD, PhD; Binrang Yang, MD, PhD;Wei Bao,MD, PhD
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantphil, let me clarify –
I take no position on what happens in Ukraine. As far as I know, it is a typical Eastern European 21th century country, like Romania, Hungary, Poland, former Yugoslavians, with probably enough of corruption, violence, and what else. The only thing is that they are dying under bombardment and may start freezing without electricity soon. And Russians who are doing it to them may turn to other countries later on, with a minor chance of WW3 … What is the point of connecting current events what happened there 100+ years ago, I am not sure. If you like to apply your energy to proclaiming aveiros of goyim, surely you can start with the aggressors. Maybe you can explain further what is your point here.November 18, 2022 6:28 am at 6:28 am in reply to: A tweet on Yeshivas Mir which should be publicized #2139752Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantIndeed, Mentch & IITFT. Mir was in Poland before WW2. Then in 1939, it was in the Soviet zone of occupation. Yeshiva (and many others both from the Soviet and German zones) fled to Lithuania that remained independent until occupied by Soviets during summer 1940 – and Sugihara continued writing out visas until Soviets forced Japan to recall him.
It is clear from a question posed to R Grozdenski at the time – who should use the visas – that they were afraid of Soviets. The question assumed that senior Rabbis would be immediately killed, while younger ones will lose their children to anti-religious education.
you need to look at the events with the view of people at the time, rather than with hindsight:
1) Perception which plague was more dangerous depended somewhat on the locale and personal history: those who had experience personally, or in a family, with Soviet oppression, or who had property or involved in religious and political activity – were mostly more afraid of Soviets, except those who were involved in communist political activities who were more afraid of Nazis.
2) Experience of WW1 in that area was of awful Russian army and disciplined German one. Read Elie Wiesel, among others – even in 1944 Hungary, many people relied on that history.
3) At the time, Soviets were running murders and labor camps for 20 years. Nazis, up to invasion of Poland, had pretty benign detention camps in their own country from which people were often released…
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantthis is a new low – with so many mitzvos towards gerim, questioning a giyur by a legitimate Rav because you don’t like it
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI am very confused by this constant ranking of Talmidei Chachamim, mostly because someone wants to totally reject an opinion for personal reasons. The fact that arguments between Tzitz Eliezer and Rav Moshe are often discussed should give you a hint that they are of authority that can be compared (specifically on medical halakha).
(I have nothing else to say on this amusing topic)
November 17, 2022 9:45 pm at 9:45 pm in reply to: Sam Bankman-Fried, Zelensky, Soros, Schumer, etc. #2139737Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI would not bring Zelensky as exhibit 1 for this situation, though. Here is a guy who risks his life daily fighting Russian Nazis, without having no preparation for this role. Whatever his position is on a particular missile is, we probably expect Ukrainians having his statutes in the future across the anti-semite Boghdan … The only people who seriously blame him for anything are pro-Russian public which currently stands at 7% in USA (down from 15% 5 years ago).
November 17, 2022 9:40 pm at 9:40 pm in reply to: Sam Bankman-Fried, Zelensky, Soros, Schumer, etc. #2139735Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantBeitza somewhere 25 addresses this excellent question. Bear with me:
you have a cow that coughs suspiciously at the end of yom tov,, maybe she casiught covid, who knows. In order not to encounter huge loss, you would like to shecht it, but there is not enough time to cook it. Can you schecht, cut a piece and eat it raw? R Akiva says – no. Maybe because it is not kosher because you are not checking the lungs, etc? No, you can presume (mduaraita) that majority of animals are healthy. Then, the only explanation is that you can’t shecht it because of lack of Derech Eretz! That is, we proved that Derech Eretz is mduaraita!
Gemora then goes on the “tangent” – lots of mitzvos are given for us to develop Derech Eretz and ability to wait (kashrus, niddah, etc). And then: answer to your question:
.. Dogs among animals, roosters among birds, Jews among nations – all have azut (boldness? hutzspah?). So, Hashen gave us Torah to train us to limit ourselves. Otherwise, Jews will not leave space for other nations to live …
And this is exactly what is happening with Jews who do not know better but try to “save the world” through all kind of means – communism and other “activism” comes to mind first lately.
November 17, 2022 9:35 pm at 9:35 pm in reply to: Silencing the Psychotic Medication Debate #2139725Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira, from the little I know, some conditioned mentioned above indeed require medication, while those who diagnosed with ADD would often benefit from other approaches. I do not mean that there is no ADD, just that symptoms are such that it is easy to direct bothersome kids into that category, and maybe, as you are saying, kids respond to the medication, it became accepted. My humble suggestion would be, unless there is clear danger to someone, try behavioral approaches, mussar, improving home and school environment before going to meds.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantcommon, repeating, I only wanted to show that the careful position has serious Rabbis behind it. So, you can’t call people names for holding by it. R Heineman was answering shailohs that someone asked hi, he did not call for people to storm Lakewood. Continuing saying that you and your chevrah “do not give a hoot” to opinions of other Rabbis just underscore the sad picture of where are communities are.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantKollelim help baalei batim to learn and provide affordable teachers to local schools. Thus, these baalei batim stay in the town and feel more attached to learning, and also give to Chabad houses who connect to non-observant. Thus, Kollelim indirectly contribute to the Chabad activities.
R Salanter saw such connections in spiritual world: when something is not learning well in vilno, a professor in Paris becomes an apikoires or something like that.
November 16, 2022 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm in reply to: A tweet on Yeshivas Mir which should be publicized #2138875Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantIn the interest of historical truth, Mir Yeshiva did _not_ run away from Nazis.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantcommon, If you have your own – so far unnamed – posek, follow him, gezunte heig (sic!).
I brought R Heineman to show that such positions are legitimate. I am somewhat flabbergasted that you dismiss the Rav this way. Next, you will say that Chaim Volozhin had only 400 students, R Akiva ended up with only 5, and Rashbi was OOT homeschooling his son…
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira,
I am saying the fact that so many people left the community is, in some part, the hesaron of the community itself.People were looking and trying different approaches. You can’t blame Mendelsohn for trying, and you can’t blame those who opposed him for trying. But I am sure there were people then also who were sitting and criticizing everyone who tried to find solutions. Maybe some became Reform, etc because of the lack of effort and not because some efforts were not successful.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantfrom the silence, I conclude that others also did not encounter such views in their communities, so we have here people inspired by online propaganda somehow.
November 15, 2022 11:03 pm at 11:03 pm in reply to: America should trade Taiwan for North Korea #2138639Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantHow could Taiwan secede? from what? Communist China never had a fair election. Just use the right words. Ok, so US recognized the dictatorship in 1979. It does not change the fact that the only Chinese province where there were legitimate elections is Taiwan. Compare with current Ukraine – areas under Russian occupation lost their votes in their parliament and will get it back when the Russian armies go home or into the fertilizer. same with China. When areas occupied by communists will become free, they will vote. Until then, Taiwanese represent the country.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantwhat about Beruriah suggesting to R Meir not to daven for criminals’ deaths?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira, you love finding the worst in everyone (Briskers excepted). It is an easy-to-verify fact that there are shuls full of people who learned by Chabad shluchim, and even in other places there are people who learned by them. If Lakewood kollelim have a similar effect, then great. Now, if some of them are not doing things right, you are free to direct them to better understanding and mekarev them into Brisk.
Again, we are confronted with 4 mln drowning Jews and we are barely saving 1% of them.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantGoing back to Reform – imagine we would have all the tools and institutions we have now at the time reform, communists, and maskilim were starting up: yeshivos, BYs, Artscroll, YU, Hillels on campus, Chabad houses, R Lord Sacks, R Berel Wein – would you think many of those Jews stayed within the boundaries, satisfying their yearning for gashmius or spirituality using these tools? So, we did not have them in time and it is the whole community “fault”. Again, “fault” as shortcoming, I am not saying that 18th century Berlin Rabbis were expected to come up with all of this. But Mendelhson at least tried, and those who opposed him also tried.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRe: shuls that “did not enforce rules”
I am thinking there is a difference:
at one extreme: rules are very conservative (masks outside), most people follow them, and easy to avoid rule-breakers (big shul, ventilation or open windows, part marked for masks, etc).at another extreme: rules are written up for the health department, most people do not follow them and no consideration given to elderly, etc (small hall, closed windows)
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> Michelle Obama 2024. Can anyone beat her?
Is this a play on: Pres. Obama, when did you stop beating your wife?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantcommon > who threatened members after they daven in a porch minyan,
Again, R Henneman said that people should not even daven in several nearby yards when it was verbotten by the government. Presuming someone was following R Henneman (I am not saying this was the case, who knows), can a Rav or a beis din enforce their opinions?
We in our days are used to beis din limiting itself to kashrus and gittin, but public policy is obviously within the beis din rights. Again, I am not litigating this particular case, speaking generalities.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantWe talk about reform and socialists as if they are an external threat, but they came somehow from inside of the normative community. We can blame the czar, Pascal, Marx and Napoleon but still the Jewish community and leaders let the reform happen… This is not to blame someone specifically, we are talking about new unprecedented challenges, but we need to admit that all movements came from is
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