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If yidden can be unvaxed I’m quite certain that it is possible that their domestic workers can be as well. No racism to it, there are no vaxers across America, they are no limited by race creed or color. I asked this question because I’ve noticed that in other frum women’s groups online, vaxers are silent on the subject when questioned.
Are families telling their cleaning people to get vaxed or not come to work?
Just as a point of information. Our president has refused to renew a domestic terrorism grant program established by President Obama. He has already canceled a grant that fights white supremacist terrorism. This program initiated by President Obama in 2016 has distributed $10M in grants. No reason for these actions but one recipient with measurable success was underfunded and dropped from the program. Again no reasons given by the administration.
“…women designers will design feminine tzitzis friendly designs too wear…” It’s happening already. Google is your friend.
Frankly I’m more concerned about the record number of Nazis, white nationalists and separatists was well as holocaust deniers running for office this year. I’ve yet to hear any dems in my area calling for war. But I live in a blue state in a blue county in a blue city. Thing may be rather different in urban areas. If you do think this person is a threat you should really call the appropriate agency. If you see something say something.
I think that some of us grew up in a time when sending a ‘bread and butter’ note was expected after dining with someone. And at the same time I was also taught to bring a gift upon arriving as a house or dinner guest was just plain good manners.
I bet George Soros paid for all of those bumper stickers on his van.
In the midst of all this partisan blaming. Let us never forget Bowling Green.
Joseph, I’m truly curious about where you got these stereotypes of nonJewish dating?
Joseph, so you mean going back to the 1950’s version of non Jewish dating? What year did things begin to degenerate for non Jews? You seem to have an idealized history/vision of a community you have very little contact with. IRRC non Jewish members of my extended family dating as I represented in my previous post in the 50’s.
I’ve no idea about Israeli dating but I’ve observed the dating models of my non Jewish friends children and have had many a conversation about it. In most cases non Jewish women who are interested in dating and marriage are out in the work force and living independent of their parents. When dates occur after work hours many times these people will meet at the movie theater or the restaurant they have chosen (or golf course or tennis court etc) . An initial date may just be a meet up at a bookstore or a coffee shop. Parents typically don’t meet these ‘dates’ unless some kind of a relationship develops.
Rachel, its not like frum men are rushing out to join the NYPD so that frum men get special handling when they break the law.
Dovid I think your suggestion is admirable. It would be heartening to see Masbia benefit from these chickens. 4H is alive and well in NYC, they may be a good resource for assistance in caring for the birds. They also do outreach to schools, both public and private. 4H and their members (and the state Extension Service) could teach Jewish youth the proper care for these animals. Wouldn’t everyone be happier if the news coverage of Kaparos in NYC showed some positive improvements?
Will it eliminate PETA protests? Probably not since most of those folks are anti meat, but the general public could see that Jews practicing this ritual do care about the animals they sacrifice both before and after the ritual.
Yes my agenda is clear. I expect adults to clean up the messes they make in public. Argue all you want, you can kill as many chickens as you like. Just clean up after yourself. That’s not so hard is it? We raise our children not to make messes and to clean up after themselves. Why is this so hard for adults to do?
Milhouse, I’d love to believe you. But none of the photos here on YWN show anything that indicates these animals are being processed for food. The films showing sanitation workers cleaning up show bags of dead chickens piled high and some exploding as the garbage truck mashes them down. None of the yiddin on the scene are doing anything about picking of the mess which is on a public street. I would love to see a well run kaparos stand. Do you have a website you can recommend?
Bshtei_Einayim You are wrong. I’m not a protester. If you feel that animal sacrifice is necessary to your faith do it by all means. Respect the creature you are using while it is alive with proper care and handling. Clean up your mess. Don’t let blood drain into city sewers or permit bags of dead creatures to litter the street when you are done with your ritual. Is this too much to ask for?
Meh, writing a book about the famous people one meets sounds a bit ego driven. Not my cuppa at all.
Well you are talking about national legislation I suspect. There are states whose gun laws comply with your dictum, and at the federal level there is accomodation for compassionate release and rational release (as in your example). Many state have also adopted these policies and procedures. Fining airlines is perhaps a federal matter since the do control air transport in this country.
At this point I have zero recommendations. Certainly we can’t legislate that people are nice to each other or don’t call names.
I saw some videos of the carnage clean up on a NYC street. No one can tell me that piles of dead chickens and blood strewn sidewalks is healthy and complying with city and state laws. Of course block voting may explain why nothing is done about it and taxpayers pay for the cleanup.And yea if you claim you’ve always seen kaparos vendors cleaning up after themselves for forty years take some videos and get them posted. Engage in a campaign that shows that the necessary sanitary laws are being kept.
For those that practice kaparos, why is it so hard to comply with basic sanitary codes and the safe handling of live poultry? I’ve seen children and adults handling chicken without gloves and not the least bit mindful of salmonella transmission from bird to human.
How much do you pay for a kaparos chicken?
Laskern it is extremely painful to the chicken to be held by it’s wings, and it is painful when you hold them by their legs upside down. The proper way to hold a chicken is to cup both it’s wings with your hands, gently but firmly. I’ve not seen one healthy chicken in any of the kaparos photos posted. All look like they are battery hens with breasts plucked clean from nervous pecking and some even exhibit clipped beaks. All are dirty with feces.
Joseph, it is my understanding that kapparos chickens are given to needy families for food. Keeping their food free of feces is a good way to ensure that the humans who eat them don’t get ill. In my case I use their eggs, and the chances of salmonella increase with poor feeding practices. As to the water, chickens get thirsty too, what is wrong with ensuring that all get their chance at sufficient freshwater? Goodness it’s not like my chickens are coming in the house to sleep in my bed.
Well Joseph, at least you won’t be mislabeled a compassionate conservative.
I just saw an article in the Lkwd Scoop about Kaparos and the improved treatment of their chickens. The water basin was too deep for the chickens to reach and too small for the flock. Every 4 chickens need 1 quart of water per day at the minimum. The feed was just placed on a rimmed cookie sheet that allowed the flock to deposit feces on their food. There are inexpensive feeders designed to keep this from happening. It’s a pity there is such a steep learning curve for the humane treatment of these creatures. A call to their local Extension Service (or a google) could place these folks on the right path when it comes to poultry care.
I am not a PETA member but I’ve managed to keep backyard chickens in the years I haven’t lived rurally. It is not a steep learning curve. When I first started with chickens decades ago Extension Services was a valuable resource, that kept me and my hens healthy and happy.
Ok I’ll give this a try.
Richard, Pat and Tricia Nixon
Sir Roger Penrose
Bill and Hillary Clinton
Barack and Michelle Obama
Joe and Jill Biden
William F. Kuntzler
Ozzie and Harriet Nelson
All these folks were beyond a handshake meetings and the list is in no particular order. I’ve also known a number of professional athletes as well as rock and roll performers (I worked in the industry for a number of years. )
It was my husband’s choice to spell his first name with an A. It was his opinion that only readers would recognize the spelling error. I guess he was right.
TY Avi, I’ll put that in my tomorrow file. My book budget is already exhausted for this month. I mentioned Eliach’s book without checking her voluminous bibliography, I’m sure she has some credible sources listed.
Point of information :Please read ‘There once was a world’ by Yaffa Eliach. She documents some very impressive instances where Germans were killed by Nazis for harboring Jews.
I learned of this book while reading The Coffee Room with my husband and immediately ordered. I don’t recall who mentioned it but thanks, this book is a treasure of history.
Midwest2, my husband was a literate and literary man. I think he picked Zola because he was in the middle of reading a book about Dreyfus. I had suggested Rene Descartes.
Thanks to Avi K for that critical information. My husband chose the login name when he was still alive. He was a firm believer in internet safety. CTL, I can assure you that I’m not close to 90. But frankly I don’t quite understand the fascination with my age. Yes I’m a bit older than you. Without going into my mother’s gynecological history, I will again say I was a late life child, after many unsuccessful pregnancies.September 4, 2018 12:47 pm at 12:47 pm in reply to: Why are Children from divorced homes treated as second class citizens? #1586292
I can only off you sympathy and good wishes. This seems to be something that happens more frequently where there are larger groups of Jews living in community. Are there any support groups for divorced Jewish women in your area?
Thanks for the information Joseph. CTL I did get confused, thanks for recognizing it was unintentional. ACWA was one of the leaders in getting contracts to limit daily hours. As to age I am a bit older than you (CTL) and my parents went many long years without a successful birth. I don’t understand your surprise at women/men my age using the computer. I first started using a computer for business in about 1985, I worked in a banking related field in private industry and Compuserve was a means of file transfers initially. IIRC we used Apple ][s, course this was long before anyone worried about hackers or Russian bots. My use of computers, both for work and pleasure continued over the years.
Apologies to CTL, I directed the post to Joseph a bit disrespectfully and for that I also apologize as well. FWIW I’m probably a bit older than CTL.
OT can someone tell me how to edit posts?? This account was opened by my husband when he was still alive but he didn’t post much or at all. We enjoyed reading posts together and It’s only recently I realized this account was still accessible. TYVM
Joseph, my age is none of your business. My parents came to America at the turn of the century. Up until the FSLA in 1938 the US govt had no established work week. Employers were at will to set the hours of a work week. So consequently it was possible that your grandparents to have worked for employers willing to honor a 40 hr. work week but it was quite uncommon. Most of the early legislation dealt with the establishment of an 8 hour workday but didn’t establish a work week. Union contracts could limit the days worked but they were few and far between Muller v Oregon (1908) gave female laundry workers an 8 hour day (down from ten) but the women were still required to work a 6 day week. Some federal legislation granted shorter hours to federal workers and some railroad employees. . In 1940 the FSLA was amended and the 40 hour work week was established in American labor law.
Thank you for the reminder about the holidays but I really didn’t need it.August 16, 2018 9:17 pm at 9:17 pm in reply to: Parklands school safety why our schools not protected the same?? #1575868
Last March FL gave $2M to private Jewish schools for security, NY state received $25 million this past June, some of the funds were allocated to Hebrew Academy of the Five Towns and Rockaway (HAFTR) and Magen David Yeshivah, just to name a few. (Do a bit of googling to find the entire list of the awardees and amounts, then ask your school what has become of the $$.)August 16, 2018 5:37 pm at 5:37 pm in reply to: Parklands school safety why our schools not protected the same?? #1575699
The nonprofit Security Grant Program provides Jewish schools with far more $$ for security enhancements than they do for other religious schools. Separate states also have security funding for schools. Investigate, see if the schools in your town have received any of these funds and how the funding was allocated after it reached the local level.
Whitecar, you seem to live in a very black and white world. Funding local public schools is benefit to society and the community at large. Because I don’t live in your black and white world our community supports school funding via the tax base regardless of party. The impact on homeowners is mitigated by the large tax base in my community (manufacturing, research,service sector, retail etc. )
High desert is quite different than desert RebYidd. Each ecosystem supports different plant and animal life. In CA greasewood is found in the chaparral biome and is a major source of fuel. In areas that haven’t historically burned the vegetation is dense and adapted to drought and low moisture levels. Deserts have vegetation that is much sparser than the chaparral and fires are easily localized.
Because in many areas it is difficult to manage underbrush, the areas are far too remote. Controlled burns are also almost impossible to control in these areas because of unpredictable winds. Many folks think these fires are occurring in lust verdant areas but they are not. High deserts contain an enormous amount of fuel, and frankly no one can control lightning strikes or arsonists. I know several folks whose homes are being threatened by the Holy fire. I once lived in a rural area that was evacuated three days ago. Many of these people have practiced good fire prevention tactics over the years. They’ve cleaned a radius of brush around their property, often plowing or digging fire breaks pre need, roofed with fireproof or fire resistant materials. They also manage to store some water and keep generators on hand for when power goes out and they need to wet down houses and property. But frankly 10, 000 gallons of water don’t last very long when you are dumping it on a property.
Gadolh.. I live in a town where robots are big biz. We’ve got robots making other robots, making hip replacement parts, making the insides of some surgical implants. There is one place that makes them for military application, but they won’t say much else. Most of these places are open for tours.
In 1969 Bobby Seale was gagged and chained during the Chicago 7 trial. Gagging defendants is not unusual and does happen with frequency here in the US. Typically, if facilities permit, disruptive defendants are removed from the courtroom to another room equipped with closed circuit TV where they can review the proceedings.
“Empire of Red Gold” is documentary of how the Chinese have cornered the processed tomato market world wide. That can of tomato paste your spouse used for dinner tonight likely came from China. The tomatoes were grown and processed in China shipped back to different processors in 55 gallon drums and reprocessed (adding, sugar, salt etc) and canned on consumer sized containers. This film also addresses some of the constituents added when the tomatoes are processed into highly concentrated pastes.
Do you mean the ones who assemble automobiles (welding or painting), or help manufacture surgical appliances, the ones that move merchandise in warehouses, the ones who act as the eyes of a building or manufacturing facility or the ones that put together other robots?
Our president and his party support cutting benefits to current military and veterans to the tune of $154 B over 10 years. (Per their proposed budget.) Among the programs cut are veterans job training for both abled and disabled military, cuts to active military family benefits, including housing allowances and medical care. In 2015 nearly 1.5 million veterans and their families were dependent on SNAP benefits with the current administration plans on slashing. I cite these numbers because it seems our active military and retired military would best be served by the administration supporting their needs and not wasting $$ on a Soviet style parade.
Dovid BT feel free to open a thread about the relative vacation expenses of our 44th and 45th presidents. Be sure to support your claims with data from the GAO and not the dog whistles of Pravda (fox news).
My concern is looming nation debt which has increased by a trillion$ sine the current president came into office, per the GAO. At a time when Americans will be bearing the brunt of the current presidents trade wars the cost of the parade is excessive and without purpose. I agree with akuperma that the money spent on the parade is a mere drop in the bucket. Unfortunately it’s not consistent with our presidents pre election promises of lowering governmental costs and debt.August 4, 2018 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm in reply to: If you vote Democrat you should just move to Mexico #1569055
Curious, Pence has spoken at meetings to these xtian pacs. He has offered his opinion that contraceptives should be illegal. I do the fact checking before I post. Unfortunately this is a site that doesn’t permit links. I would suggest that you use google, it’s not difficult to find quotes and transcripts of his speeches to these groups. As I mentioned earlier I won’t respond to your straw men, again, you appear to have difficulty responding directly to comments.
Takes Two, that’s the reason I mentioned it, people need to learn about unsustainably grown farmed fish. These fish are also fed a great many fungicides to keep them ‘healthy’. I read about a sustainable talapia farm out in Montana or South Dakota, a while ago. It’s an interesting operation and bio culture. I’m happy to live where fresh fish are wild, safe and reasonably priced.August 3, 2018 5:42 am at 5:42 am in reply to: If you vote Democrat you should just move to Mexico #1568811
Curio, Pence often shares his views on the availability of contraception when in his speeches tofundamentalist xtian PACs. (FRC Action, Xtian Advocates Serving, and AFA just to mention a few. ) Sometime it’s worthy to look at the coverage of these meetings/rallies/fundraiser, the uber xtian press gives them great coverage.
I’m with CTL on pet food. As to people food, I’m not going to chance it. I find it interesting that many people who distrust food packaged in China (or in the far east) will still buy talapia farmed in China or salmon farmed and processed in China.