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See Ulla’s response to Rav Yehuda on Kiddushin 71b.
Charlie.
1. If it was a Sephardic/Chassidic shul you should have agreed to say “yatzzmach porkenei” and afterwards told them that your intention was “lo yatzmach porkenai”.
2. There was a case in Jerusalem, when Ashkenazic cohanim also duchan every day, where someone suddenly stopped after 25 years. He explained that when he made aliya there was a storm at sea and he made a neder that if Hashem would bring him to EY safely he would be a cohen for 35 years. In Persia many Jews made themselves cohanim because priests of any religion were exempt from the draft. So what do we do about pidyon haben?
3. Mi shenitma nitma. No one knows what happened in his ancestry ages ago.Ubiquitin, then what should have a bearing on law? Whatever the spirit of the time says? As we are seeing, no society can be without an ethos. If it will not be the traditional religion of the nation it has to be some other religion or quasi-religion. Secular liberalism has become this quasi-religion complete with dogma, heretics and burnings at the (so far) virtual stake. Russell Kirk wrote about this in his essay Civilization Without Religion? which you can read online.
Justme,
1. How high is a “good percentage”?
2. There is an inyan according to Kabbala to bring back the non-Jewish descendants of Jews who intermarried. I myself have a friend who went to a BT yeshiva, found out that he was doubtfully Jewish (his maternal grandmother “converted” but did not recall going to the mikva). He went through a giur l’chumra and is now fully observant.CTL, in all of those countries the Catholic Church is very strong. This does not contradict socialist and even Marxist governments. While in the US and Europe the Church has been conservative in Latin America it has a strong leftist strain. After all, Yushki kicked the money-changers out of the Temple and condemned the rich.
Ubiquitin, you also have foreign ideas. “Tzedaka” is not equivalent to “charity”. A person who starts a business and boosts employment is giving tzedaka but not charity. Rabbi Prof. (Emeritus) Israel Kirzner discusses the role of the entrepreneur in expanding the pie. You can find his ideas summarized on Google.
I did not find who says that government should not legislate morality but in fact almost all laws involve legislating morality. Laws that punish theft, fraud, etc. all legislate morality.
What I find interesting is that liberals want to raise the drinking and weapon buying age to 21 because until then people are not sufficiently responsible (BTW, this is shown by brain studies). Yet they want to lower the voting age to 16.
CTL.
1. You’re right. That was Ubiquitin., I apologize.
2. It most certainly did overrule a decision. Chisholm vs. Georgia.
3. So what if it has nothing to do with the subject of the thread? The Gemara also does that.CTL,
1. “I do not believe that the legislature should violate separation of powers by passing legislation to overrule decisions if the court.” What about the Eleventh and Sixteenth amendments?
2. Shmittah is not anti-capitalist. It is simply taking a year off to recharge one’s spiritual batteries. The land remains the property of its owner. As for the gifts to the poor (I assume those are the rest of your long list), in every case the poor must do some work for their gifts. Terumot and maaserot are compensation for engaging in spiritual
work. In fact, the Torah presumes private ownership and even prohibits favoring the poor in a court case where the law is with the rich person.ER, Jews have been hurt more than helped by liberal values. Anti-discrimination laws prohibit preferring a fellow Jew in employment, have destroyed the separate institutions (clubs, neighborhoods, etc.) that kept non-observant Jews at least culturally Jewish and therefor kept the intermarriage rate low (even Jewish gangsters and communists almost never married out). Now even campus religious groups may not exclude non-believers. The laws that protect Sabbath observers (which, BTW, have more holes than Swiss cheese) can also be construed as conservative as they encourage religion.
Whitecar, you can answer him with a utilitarian argument. Commerce depends on trust.
Heargod, it is not correct that capitalism “skewers ones (sic – you forgot the apostrophe) value system into thinking the goal in life is money”. On the contrary, it enables people to rise out of poverty so that they have time to think about spiritual and intellectual matters. Socialism, on the other hand, empowers jealousy.
CTL, what is a suburb? Of course a white woman can define herself as black or Native American so a town can define itself as it pleases.
Time, FYI fiscal conservatives
1. Promote the highest form of tzedaka
2. Are by and large very generous with their own money. Other people’s money is not theirs with which to be generous.
3. See Gittin 45a regarding public money.Amil, you are correct that they will have to be weaned off. That can be achieved by a law reducing benefits by a certain percentage each year coupled with mandatory professional training.
Amil, I guess they will just have to learn English, and other pertinent secular subjects, get jobs and have the size families they can support. Chazal, in fact, presume that a normal person is embarrassed to take charity. They call it נהמא דכיסופא (bread of shame). Publicly taking from non-Jews is an actual prohibition. The highest form of tzedaka is to give someone productive work. this is best done by the free enterprise system.
You have to be careful about idioms. While JFK’s statement “Ich bin ein Berliner would not have been misunderstood in Berlin people from other parts of Germany listening would have understood him as saying that he was a jelly doughnut. For that matter, the English translation of Simcha Raz’ book about Rav Aryeh Levin mistakenly called a heater an over (both are called a תנור in Hebrew). A Sabra I knew wanted to use the word “closet”, He looked up ארון in a dictionary and came up with “casket”.
CTL, as a matter of fact, not only can dead people can vote for live people but live people can vote for dead people. Five US politicians were elected posthumously (you can google it if you are interested in knowing who).
CTL, that committee only deals with general programs. It certainly cannot discriminate against Jewish-owned businesses. Omar is on the Committee on the Budget, the Committee on Education and Labor and the Committee on Foreign Affairs. Do you have any idea how much damage she can do?
MN,
1. Posting three times does not change anything.
2. We cannot have anything now. Everything comes gradually with work. Eisav lost his birthright because he wanted lentil soup now.I knew someone whose hevruta ran back to America when the first Gulf war broke out. He was immediately called up by his reserve unit and sent to Saudi Arabia. I also heard of an Israeli who ran to America and was killed in an auto accident.
The fact of the matter is everything is dangerous. Crossing the street is dangerous. The question is how dangerous and why someone is accepting the danger. For example, it is permitted for parnassa if it is something that people normally do (e.g. construction work). Moreover, conquering EY is a milchemet mitzva and that obviously pushes off. Where in EY one lives is not particularly important except perhaps for the areas that were part of Jerusalem during the time of the Bayit Sheni.
This whole thread shows that the sin of the spies is very much with us.
CA, just out of curiosity, what do your gedolim say about Internet usage?
The Yerushalmi (Berachot 1:1) says that the Geula comes slowly in stages. this there is a continuum of galut and geula. Rashi says that a sign of geula is EY bringing forth its fruits in abundance. BTW, according to the Zohar each 1,000 years of creation is against one day of the week. According to that 5708 was the soft reman blur chametz. There is no greater chamez than the Galut.
Yserbius,
1. Pres. Trump is the most pro-Israel POTUS ever and has appointed friends of religious freedom to SCOTUS and lower Federal courts.
2.Omar ym”s sits on the Foreign Affairs Committee! Tlaib ym”s also sits on important committees. Nobody is talking about removing them. Expelling someone requires a two-thirds vote. In the entire history of the House of Representatives only six were expelled. Four for supporting the Confederacy and two after felony convictions.Akuperma, what will the Jews on the all-Jewish planet do when something goes wrong on Shabbat? As for America, while there is almost no chance of institutionalized antisemitic actions there is a large chance that individual actions will snowball c”v.
הכנסת כלה is actually הכנסה קלה.
Ubiquitin,
1. The Yiddish linguist Max Weinreich said that a language is a dialect with an army and navy.
2. In Europe it was called Jargon.
3. Rabbanim wrote to each other in Hebrew interspersed with Aramaic. It was a sign of a ben Torah that he also wrote his business correspondence in Hebrew. This was borne out by discoveries in the Cairo Geniza (BTW, so far no Yiddish documents have been found there).Ubiquitin, there really is no single German language but a cluster of similar dialects. Some, such as Bavarian and the North German dialects are quite different. Yiddish is one of them. It is no more a separate language than Yeshivish.
Ubiquitin and Lechaim, the Germans say the same things about Swiss German. and the Bavarians claim that they speak a different language than the Prussians.
AY, the Shela haKadosh brought down in Margoliot haYam says about “tot” and “fot” being from other languages (Sanhedrin 4b) that some words were lost from Lashon haKodesh and preserved in other languages. In any case, Israelis will readily tell you that these words are not Hebrew and even supply the official Hebrew word.
Lashon haKodesh was the spoken language of Am Yisrael until the churban Bayit Rishon. In fact, only the aristocracy even understood Aramaic (Yeshayahu 36:11). Of course, one’s everyday language should also be kadosh. In general our job is to make the chol kadosh. This is central to Rav Kook’s view of the difference between the Torah of Eretz Yisrael and the torah of galut.
As for Yiddish being a means of separation from the others, in fact, it is a creole German. Speaking Yiddish in Switzerland, where they are mutually intelligible (I have this on the authority of the wife of a friend who is from Switzerland and was demonstrated in “Pastry, Pain and Politics'”) and even in Czechoslovakia and Poland, where german was widely spoken, simply does not achieve this.
Mammele,
1. Tape recorder? You really are living in the past.
2. On the contrary, the niche is getting smaller. I once saw a Russian immigrant try to speak it with a Chareidi. The latter could barely get along and was clearly uncomfortable.FDR. He started big government, put innocent people in jail just because of their ethnicities (many Italian and German-Americans were also interned) and refused to do anything about the Holocaust.
They mainly learn Nezikin plus Ketubot and Gittin so they dress like lawyers.
When Rav Kook went to London to be the Rav of the Machzikei haDaat synagogue he realized that he had to learn English. He did not want to mevatel Troah so he used English translations of the Tanakh and Talmud. When he made his first speech he used words like “thou” and one non-Jew present said “He speaks like a prophet”.
Yiddish is the language of the harshest exile in our history and a dialect of the language of Amalek. It is also the language pushed by the Bundists, who held Tisha b’Av parties and stood in front of shuls on Yom Kippur eating ham sandwiches. When the Bolsheviks came to power they banned our national language Hebrew, which unites all of Klal Yisrael, and pushed Yiddish. It is long past time that it was relegated to anthropologists.
Tעוד מעט ישוב לאמר שקר נחלו אבותינו, והישראלי בכלל ישכח מחצבתו ויחשב לאזרח רענן, יעזוב לימודי דתו, ללמוד לשונות לא לו, יליף ממקלקלתא ולא יליף מתקנתא, יחשוב, כי ברלין (נ.ב. ברוקלין, מונסי, לייקווד) היא ירושלים, וכמקולקלים שבהם עשיתם, כמתוקנים לא עשיתם ואל תשמח ישראל אל גיל בעמים. אז יבוא רוח סועה וסער, יעקור אותו מגזעו, יניחהו לגוי מרחוק, אשר לא למד לשונו, ידע כי הוא גר, לשונו שפת קדשינו, ולשונות זרים המה כלבוש יחלוף, ומחצבתו הוא גזע ישראל,
-משך חכמה פרשת בחוקותי
The Mishna Berura says that there should be official shushers. The Kaf haChaim (OC 124:37) agrees and adds that the talkers should receive many punishments and be embarrassed in public.
Eli, in the Chareidi sector if a person’s name is Azulai, Vaknin or something else obviously not Ashkenazi he is almost certainly Sephardi or Yemenite. Discrimination against Sephardim in Chareidi schools in well-known and the reason why Rav Ovadia started El haMaayan.
CTL, FYI there are some shuls that have a rule that a person who does not come by Barchu loses his right to the seat for that tefilla. BTW, there were communities in Germany that fined people who came after Baruch sheAmar.
Rebbetzin, someone who puts on tefillin or shakes a lulavu not in the proper time does no mitzva and says a beracha l’vatala. Similarly, if you visit a choleh at an inappropriate time you are doing an aveira (besides the chillul Hashem). You probably would not tell anyone about unemployed people you know so that you could give them gifts every Purim. Chazal call such a person a חסיד שוטה.
WATCH: Jewish Metaphysics of Baseball by Rosh Hayeshiva of Ohr Somayach, Rav Nota Schiller Shlit”a,
Yankee Stadium has glatt kosher stands and Mincha or Maariv (depending on whether it is a day or night game) during the Seventh Inning Stretch. Weekday soccer in israel has Maariv during the break. Apparently some people think it’s permitted. I don’t know if it is considered a sport but many gedolim played chess as bachurim. One future gadol, upon beating his opponent (also a future gadol) commented that he needed to know that he can’t always win.
Yitzyk, for that matter, in Mea Shearim they sold Xmas decorations as sukka decorations. The residents thought hat Santa was a rav as he had a big white beard.
Rambam says that one should stand at attention. This was the custom of Rav Moshe and Rav Soloveichik. The former said that he learned to do this when a NKVD interrogator put a loaded gun on the table and told him that if he moved a muscle it would be his last.
ZG, I heard that there is a lower level – siata d’Shemaya. BTW, the Gra says that already with Yeshayahu there were no actual nevi’im but chozim, which is a lower level. He calls the former a clear window of a foggy window and the latter a foggy window of a foggy window.
Mentsch, in Israel “Oriental” (מזרחי) refers to Jews from the Eidot haMizrach. What are pejoratives differ according to time and place. At one time “Jew” (as well as “Yid”) was a pejorative whereas the polite words were “Hebrew” and “Israelite”. When Khrushchev became Commissar for Soviet-occupied Poland he was shocked to hear local Jewish Communists refer to themselves as Żydzi as this is extremely offensive in Russian.
CTL,
1. I never claimed to be a liberal.
2. If Americans and Europeans can have something to say about how we live in Israel I, who am an American citizen, can certainly have something to say about how you live in the US. While we are on the subject, the low pay of state legislators means that they must have outside income unless they are independently wealthy. That can lead to conflicts of interest in big government jurisdictions.
3. I thought that you are a lawyer.
4. Under the “Citizens United” jurisprudence the CT campaign finance laws might very well be violations of the First Amendment.As for your integrated neighborhood, so you agree with George Jefferson that there is no white power or black power, only green power.
CTL, you remind of Mad Magazine’s definition of a liberal – over fifty years ago. He wants integrated schools in Mississippi and integrated neighborhoods in Mississippi. Have you joined the Federalist Society yet?
Dor, it depends on the bet din. The Israeli Chief Rabbinate has an appeals tribunal as does the private Eretz Hemdah-Gazit system for monetary disputes.
2scents, how have I been emotional and/or disrespectful? I was merely answering his contentions. I will take this opportunity to correct my post. It was actually a two bedroom apartment.
“Mashiach” means “the Anointed One”. Koresh was crowned. I don’t think that an oath of office is the same.
CTL,
1. You wrote that you would be willing to pay higher taxes. That means that you are willing for others to pay. do not be disingenuous.
2. How about eliminating things that are better done by private industry.? Getting rid of the dictatorial administrative state (of dubious constitutionality)? On the Federal level, how about getting rid of everything the Tenth Amendment gives to the states and the people?
3. How does this trust fund even stay afloat if rents are not raised in accordance with costs? You stated that it is in its fifth generation. Just two generations ago my parents z”l paid $75 per month for a three bedroom apartment in NYC. If you can turn a profit for a landlord with that level of rents you are over on sorcery.