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Not sure if you meant to walk back your words, but your newly revised post mentioned ‘nistar’, whereas your previous post was specifically about chassidus being learnt “L’shem avodas hashem”, which you said wouldn’t be correct to spend 3 hours a day on, as you’re not mekayem Limud Hatorah with it.
I may agree that spending 3 hours learning pure kabbalistic concepts is not right, but if we’re talking about Chassidus, and the individual genuinely feels that his Avodas Hashem, and, as a byproduct, his Limud Hatorah, is positively impacted, then why do you have a problem with that? It may not be your Derech, but there is nothing halachically wrong with spending ‘only’ 7 hours learning niglah, and the rest chassidus or musar.
I struggle to understand why, in your mind, “Toras hanistar manifested in avodas Hashem” and “Toras hanistar l’shem limud” are in conflict with each other. If you view your avodas hashem as independent of your limud hatorah, then perhaps that’s the reason you should learn chassidus….
Let me just point out the term “missionary bochurim” is hyperbolic. The Rebbe instructed bochurim to go out and spread chassidus in other shuls. The fact that bochurim came to your yeshiva and acted improper should not be conflated with the general idea of tahalucha which is widely considered acceptable
Lol no, 3 hours a day is what all yeshivos do nowadays. Yeshiva ketanas do 2 hours.
The Seder hayom you saw must have been the original tomchei temimims in warsaw and Lubavitch.
Nunu, yeridas hadoros….
It may be surprising to many, but thousands of poilishe and hungarishe chassidim learn – besides for tanya – the maamorim of the Rebbe Rashab, frierdike Rebbe, and the Rebbe. Likkurei sichos less so, but I’ve come across many that seem more proficient in l”s than me……
So you learnt chassidus yourself and believe that its a good thing for people to learn but disagree with the amount of chassidus that chabad encourages. Fine. But your “proof” is simply preposterous. You have taanos against certain Chabad beliefs, but to, but to blame that on chassidus is ridiculous. Can you find any direct or indirect link between the teachings of chassidus that explain the spiritual makeup of the world, man, the Torah, Hashem, and the relation between one another, to any of your complaints listed in your post? Chabad may have its seemingly peculiar beliefs, but there are thousands who share none of those beliefs and do not identify with Chabad, yet learn the same amount and type of chassidus that we do.
By the way, chabad yeshivos learn 3 hours chassidus, and 7 hours nigla. So no need to worry chassidus “eating up” our nigla. We view chassidus as equally important b’eichus but we also learn it secondary b’kamus.
No, I don’t pardon your snarkiness.
You see, your argument that chassidus is a sea of kabbalistic concepts that confuses one’s perception of judaism was the age-old claim of misnagdim of yesteryear. Most people don’t believe that anymore. They may not be inclined to learn it or think its necessary, but hardly anyone thinks it’s detrimental.
But then again, your entitled to your own beliefs, however fringe they may be…..
Its a better metaphor; incidentally we do learn R’ Baruch Ber occasionally, albeit not as much you’d probably like.
However, I understand the point your making. My intention wasn’t really to get into that post about “messianic missionaries” but about your 19 Kislev one, which, I felt, downplayed the significance of the day.
The problem you have with tahalucha would make for a whole separate discussion. It was something the Rebbe encouraged, and wouldn’t be easy to simply write off as “messianic missionizing”.
I don’t mean to draw this into a whole back and forth, but I just want to clarify my argument.
My last statement about the Rebbe was qualifying what I said about the way 19 Kislev was celebrated by the oilam, however within Chabad nothing was changed (or “inflated” as you put it”), not in regards to minhagim, or anything. And even among the velt, Chabad was always celebrated as a yom tov for chassidus. That’s why I took issue with the way you said “19 Kislev was never a huge yom tov until present day chabad”.
It could be were both agreeing, and this whole discussion boils down to phraseology…..
My point about nefesh hachaim was that your analogy is unfair; chabad doesn’t learn nefesh hachaim we already 250 plus sefarim, whereas in the litvishe world, teachings of chassidus (or kabbalah as you call it) aren’t offered. If litvishe bochurim are learning n”h then great, but those chabad bochurim probably kept coming back to your yeshiva for the few bochurim that preffered Tanya.
No, nothing in the two statements you quoted were contradictory, but if you agreed with everything in the post until the last paragraph, then at least that’s a relief…
And no, Lubavitchers don’t learn Nefesh Hachaim; with the 250 sifrei chassidus chabad we already have on our plate that would be asking too much… Besides, most of what Nefesh Hachaim contains can already be found in Chassidus (I’ve learnt it before), and would seem redundant to an average Chabad bochur.
But if Nefesh Hachaim is what it takes for a litvishe bochur to learn chassidishe concepts, then fine with me….
AviraDara: “no one thought of it as a huge holiday until present-day chabad.”
Its an ambiguous statement, but if your intention was to say that even in chabad, no one thought it was a big yom tov until “present-day”, then you couldn’t have been more mistaken; 19 Kislev has always been celebrated in chabad with seudos, yom tov clothing, no tachnun etc. This was passed down by tradition through the 7 Chabad Rebbes and generations of Chabad families.
If your intention was to say that it was never considered a yom tov in the velt, until present-day Chabad made it one, then that is also not entirely accurate. Other chasidishe kreizen also considered it a personal yom tov for them, as the taanos the misnagdim had on Chabad were also on them. The alter rebbe was picked due to his particular influence in chassidus at the time. Chabad has also always made it a point of spreading chassidus through farbrengens on 19 Kislev.
It is true, however, that there is more of a fuss nowadays in regards to 19 Kislev, but that is the case with every long-held initiative Chabad offers nowadays, the reason being that the Rebbe, in general, always brought Chabad’s ideas to a much broader scale than his predecessors. There are also a lot more Lubavitchers now than there’s ever been, so you’re obviously a lot more likely to hear 19 Kislev then if you’d live in “olden-day” Chabad.
HaLeivi: “It’s actually odd to me that in Lubavitch they call this day the Rosh Hashanah of Chasidus all the while ignoring the fact that it’s the Mezritcher Maggid’s Yahrzeit.”
Anyone who thinks Chabad ignores that 19 Kislev is the Magid’s yartzeit, has clear never been to a 19 Kislev farbrengen before….
The Magid’s yartzeit, and it’s connection to the Chag Hageulah is a focal point in all the Rebbe’s sichos on the subject as well as a cliche talking point in practically every 19 Kislev farbrengen.
Now, either go educate yourself on the topic, or find something else you already know about to rant on.
No one ever claimed there was a problem with yw reporting Trump’s meeting; the problem is the recent negative obsession yw has had with Trump way before the whole Trump-Kanye scandal. There has been an observable imbalabce , lately, in the way yw has been reporting on politics, and its rubbing many yw visitors the wrong way. Nobody likes Trump’s personality and most of us will probably vote Desantis over Trump, but we cannot afford to burn our bridges with Trump if end up needing to fall back on him.
Now, it could be yw is trying to dig up support for Desantis among it’s frum viewership, but its being done in the wrong way.
And when frum commenters start spewing out such vile hate on Trump and the Republican party as a whole, it shows a frightening tilt in the frum opinion in politics which may be getting exacerbated by YW.
I rest my case.
What you’re missing about the whole brinton story is that brinton is biologically male (also known as a man) and stole woman’s suitcase full of her clothes, taking it to his hotel room for the night then denied it 3 TIMES before being forced to admit it and still falsely claims to have returned it. This sorry excuse of a human (who you should look up, preferably with incognito….) Is known for engaging in the lowest forms of human activity, and his appointment in the US government signals a growing decay of moral values brought on by the liberal movement.
A news item like this would obviously of more interest to the drum community and worthy of being posted on YW, then the recent anti-trump tangen catered only to you and gadol hadorah. You can see this from the overwhelmingly negative comments these articles get each time.
As for the SS marriage issue… I guess only a real frum yid would relate to the pertinence of the issue.
Haha melbournian! Are there no chabadniks near you down in Australia or something? at the rate of ignorance and downright stupidity that the yeshivish world is running on, the future of Chabad’s image doesn’t look too bright…..
“some of the chabad rabaim did sleep in the sukkah”
“I’m sure many did; until the last lubavitcher rebbe, no one said that the mitzvah doesn’t apply at all”
Oy vey, what has the yeshivishe world come to?!
Before you know it, they’ll be claiming that the Rebbes of Chabad learnt Daf Yomi.
I would not consider myself “newish” over here, although I may not be as OG as you, I’ve definitely been around here long enough to see the amount of anti-Chabad propaganda spewed forth on Coffeeroom by many individuals such as Yeshivishrockstar, Icemelter, and Warrior (and apparently now we have a new one) to name a few who have gotten away with it without any affront to their credibility whatsoever.
Now, of course I would generally shy away from direct insults and aggressive arguing, especially only a few days after Rosh Hashana and YK, but when the subject of the debate is such that has done so himself, and on a much worse level, to organizations and individuals, then I can assume that he’s not the type to get offended when someone else does the same thing to him. If I’ve indeed insulted anyone, then I wholeheartedly apologize.
On my part, after having seen the amount of hate over here, generally motivated by ignorance, I find it hard not to respond myself. If I only allow these factually incorrect statements to remain permanently on cyberspace without any head-on rebuttal, than this could cause a lot of damage in the long run for any subsequent visitors to the site.
Whoa. After that whole senseless tirade you just put up over there, it’s quite difficult to resist the need to address your claims, however laughable and ridiculous they may be. Who knows? Perhaps an innocent YW user seeking information will unwittingly stumble upon your false statements and, being none the wiser, accept them as fact.
“is such an idea stated specifically in the miteler rebbe’s(or those who came after him) writings?”
Yes, it is. See for example Sefer Hasichos 5699, sicha for 1st night of sukkos. See also Likkutei Sichos vol. 29 p. 211. this statement was documented by the Rebbe Rayatz and the Rebbe in their respective sefarim.
“Rav chaim volozhiner was not “close” with chabad, or any other chasidim. He worked together with the baal hatanya briefly on klal matters. ”
Rav Chaim was, in fact, extremely close with the Rebbes of Chabad, met with them on several occasions, and enjoyed regular correspondence with them as well, All this is well documented and needs no reiteration over here, or anywhere for that matter. R’ itchele volozhin traveled to Petersburg with the Mitteler Rebbe and signed kol kores with him on various communal matters as is also well documented. Likewise, your statement that R’ Chaim was not proficient in Tanya and Chabad teachings is nothing short of absurd, and is disputed by numerous historical accounts which I do not have the patience to detail right here, right now.
“To say that rav Moshe feinstein and rav hutner were “close” with the lubavitcher rebbe is also false.”
Oh really?! Were you aware that both of those individuals met with the Rebbe on numerous occasions, corresponded with them on matters ranging from spiritual or otherwise communal matters, down to mundane birthday Mazal Tov’s and brachos, and spoke highly effusively of one another both to each other as well as to their respective followers? Did you know that the Rebbe would direct many halachic questions submitted to him to R’ Moshe, and that R’ Moshe once requested the Rebbe to send him a pair of Rabeinu Tam’s tefillin which the Rebbe did? Did you know that R’ Moshe attended a Chasuna that the Rebbe officiated at, and used the opportunity to ask the Rebbe a shaila in Gemara which the Rebbe answered? On R’ Hutner: did you know that R’ Hutner corresponded with the Rebbe more than any other Rosh Yeshiva of his time, and that his dozens of letters to the Rebbe are all available for viewing throughout 25 volumes of Igros Kodesh?? And did you know that Rav Hutner is documented by his followers as having said shortly before his death that “the Rebbe is the tzadik hador – most righteous man of his generation”??
More on R’ Moshe’s and rav Hutner’s warm relationship with the Rebbe is extensively documented in Chaim Dalfin’s books ‘Rav Moshe and the Rebbe’ and ‘Rav Hutner and the Rebbe’ both of which are available on Amazon.
In conclusion, avirdeara, your evil rhetoric and factually incorrect statements are the direct reason for all antagonism and animosity that currently exists between the Chabad and Litvish communities. All hate and hostility is the product of sheer ignorance and misinformation the likes of which you’ve just presented in that four post diatribe.
You’re not just ignorant; you’re misinformed. To say that the Chabad Rebbes and their hundreds of thousands of Chassidim did not sleep in the Sukka due to the Russian cold is just preposterous.
Don’t you know the Miteler Rebbe’s popular saying “Vi ken ich shlufen in makiffim d’bina – How can I sleep in the lofty spiritual levels of Makifim D’bina?”. And don’t you know that this was the reason that the Chabad Rebbes and their respective Chassidim all refrained from sleeping in the sukkah, all to to the complete silence of every Gadol around at the time? Have you bothered, at least once, to read up on the subject in Chabad texts or asked about it from Chabadniks before concocting your own narrative?
It would certainly due you well to watch the dialogue between the Rebbe and R’ Tzvi Kahana during Sunday dollars, available to view on RebbeDrive or Youtube, where the Rebbe effectively removes all doubt on the matter. This is Chabad’s (and Belz’s) established minhag. It’s been around since the early 1800s. Not ONE gadol (until Rav Shach, of course) got up to say a word about it. NOBODY, not even CR participants, can contest this sacred minhag, and if they do, they should know that they’re contesting the Mitteler Rebbe, Tzemach Tzedek, Maharash, Rashab, Rayatz, the Rebbe, who all refrained from eating in the sukkah, and instructed their chassidim to do likewise, not because of weather considerations (!), but due to their holy kabbalistic intentions backed up with the proper halachic support presented at great length in Likkutei Sichos and other sources.
dealie: “that’s true chabad doesn’t sleep in the sukkah and if you ask them how it makes sense with Halacha they don’t really have an answer and they say that their rebbi didn’t sleep the whole succos in order to avoid this problem. Which I don’t believe because the Gemara says its impossible to stay awake that long.”
You don’t quite seem like the type of guy that has spoken to enough Lubavitchers to be able to say that “they” don’t have an answer – something which I don’t find very believable considering that the Rebbe offered a long sicha as well as many letters on the subject. The only one who didn’t have an answer on this subject was Rabbi Tzvi Kahana, who was left wordless when the Rebbe launched on a 20 minute (!) disciplinary speech during sunday dollars about why Yidden ought to stop complaining about this minhag when the greatest Gedolei Yisroel from the times of the Mitteler Rebbe [1773-1827] who were close with Chabad, such as R’ Chaim and Itche Volozhin, said absolutely nothing of the matter although they were obviously fully aware of this minhag (which, by the way, is also prevalent in Belz as well as other circles).
And before you start quoting the medical statements from the Gemara, it would do you well to know that certain health related statements mentioned in Rambam and Gemara do not apply in a physical sense, due to the change in human nature. Ironically, the Rebbe has a long sicha on this idea which you wouldn’t regret studying.
PS. I don’t know if coffee or anything of the sort was around in the times of the gemara, but I may be wrong….
If you have not, as of yet, found the time to study Tanya in depth, then I would suggest you do so with the help of Reb Yoel Kahn’s shiurim which are available on the internet. Alternatively, you may use one of the many self-help Tanya books that have come out in recent years. Daunting indeed, but once you have learnt it along with the Rebbe’s explanations, many questions that you have had on Chabad philosophy will fade away. It’s a matter of patience and open-mindedness, something which many people lack, unfortunately.
Your questions on Chelek Eloka would seem quite valid and strong to the average observer, which is totally understandable considering the immense level of ignorance that most in the Litvish community possess whenever it comes to Chabad thought. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, however, and, instead of responding to you questions head on as I was initially tempted to do, I’ll just let you do the research yourself. After all no one educate you better than yourself at you age; It’s all about the willingness to learn and discover, something which no one else can provide for you.
I wish you luck that you one day realize the fallacy and absurdity of your questions – You won’t regret listening to me, and I won’t regret the resisting the urge to argue with you.
Wait, what did Biden do again?
Can you name a specific accomplishment, or are you only gonna rattle off his praises as you liberal parents have friends have taught you to do. You see, Dems tend to be very emotional people and get hyped over people whose views reflect their agenda even when those very people don’t do a THING for America, and, in fact, make things worse. Case in point in regards to our dear prez who no one likes (at least as the polls suggest), Joe Biden, the man who singlehandedly wreaked more havoc in our country in the last 6 months than all previous presidents combined (and still counting!).
You guys should prob have read Trump’s statement before making assumptions to be yored l’sof daato. And you definitely haven’t done so, as evidenced from your ignorance by saying “trump disagrees with you” or “at least trump agrees that biden was elected otherwise he wouldn’t ask him to resign”.
Well, your both wrong. Trump’s statement on twitter read as follows: ““It is time for Joe Biden to resign in disgrace for what he has allowed to happen to Afghanistan, along with the tremendous surge in COVID, the Border catastrophe, the destruction of energy independence, and our crippled economy. It shouldn’t be a big deal, because he wasn’t legitimately elected in the first place.”
So Trump acknowledged that Biden was never ‘legitimately’ elected, yet, at the same time, calls for his ‘resignation’ utilizing the term that would work according to the mainstream perspective, namely, that Biden was indeed legitimately elected. There is no stira minei ubei in the statement, and, in fact, I wholeheartedly agree with Trumps assertation that Biden has gotta go, especially considering that fact that his initial election was highly questionable to begin with, although I wouldn’t go so far as to state assuredly that his presidency was entirely illegitimate.
Kudos to the first ever posted topic on the Coffee Room forum, dated 2008.
The rules definitely seem to have been more lax in those days, considering this member’s rather offensive username. There also seems to have been a severe lack of participants considering that no one, in the last 12 years, has responded to this fellow’s desperate call for tznius regulations.
At any right, I am definitely on board with his/her assessment, although, frankly, it is quite interesting that nothing has changed in the last decade or so, as per this subject matter. Besides for perhaps the worse.
Orech din, you should educate yourself more
I would suggest that you use wikipedia to learn more history and enlighten yourself as to the nature of Palestinian funding. There is something called a Pat to Slay movement which offers incentives to those that kill Israelis. Every Palestinian incarcerated in israeli jails receives a stipend of $4,000, in 2016 alone, the PA spent over $160 million on supporting families of terrorists. This much I will tell you, the rest I will leave to you to research and find out for yourself. Ten l’echacham V’yachkem Od
Chassidus discusses the chakira which asks that if the world is physical and bound by the limitations of nature, then how could there be elements of infinite in it such as numbers that go on forever and space which goes on forever. I don’t remember the conclusions but it is a weighty topic. Everybody knows that when Moshiach comes, the Bli Gvul dimension of elokus will be invested in this physical world, a phenomenon which we can’t really understand without experiencing it ourselves.
It is possible, however, that some reflection of this idea can be found even now in regards to infinite in olam hazeh with numbers etc.
The Torah doesn’t mention it so it doesn’t exist?
Does that mean I don’t exist (because the Torah doesn’t mention me)?!
Does that mean that black holes, icebergs, volcanoes, electricity, and kangaroos don’t exist because the Torah doesn’t mention it?!
in 2019 alone YW posted 24 articles about peleg, and 12 about berland.
yasher koach, Pashut.
Perhaps you can also convince YW to take down the comment posted by ‘yeshivish rockstar2’ on July 16, 2019 which said: “The Lubavicher Rebbe is a mixedbag: He made tons of people frum and brought them closer to Hashem. However, he also ended up causing many yidden to believe in kefira.”
As well as the comment posted by ‘lerntmittayrah’ on March 28 2019, which said: “Please don’t tell me nobody davens to the Rebbe if the sicha from 1979 EXPLICITLY PERMITS IT AND SAYS THE 5TH IKKAR DOESN’T APPLY TO THE REBBE DUE TO ATZMUS. So either they hold it’s true or they hold the Rebbe said apikorsus there and forget about it, but then moshiach can’t be an apikoires.”
If you manage to get rid of those comments you’ll save even more people from gehinnom.
“Chabadniks put on Rashi tefillin first, then, near the end of Shachris, put on Rabbeinu Tam tefillin. I know this practice as encouraged by Rebbe Menachem Mendel Schneersohn, but I do not know whether it started before he became Rebbe.”
Not near the end of Shachris – we do it at the very end after tehillim which we say after ach tzadikkim.
The minhag started after the Rebbe became rebbe in 1950. People would ask special permission to put on the rebbe sometimes gave, but only starting from married and onwards. then, in 1976, the Rebbe formally announced that everyone should start putting on rabenu tam starting from 2 months before BM by hanochos tefillin.
Could we please settle this matter once and for all?!
I happened upon this article a little too late, but it’s never too late to set the record straight…..
The Lubavitcher Rebbe made clear MULTIPLE times that every Chossid should believe his Rebbe is Moshiach. He said this on chol Hamoed sukkos 1987, and it it printed in Toras Menachem ( I provided a link to it before on hebrew books but YW took it down….) as well as in Sichos kodesh.
Additionally, the Rebbe made it clear the rebbe of every generation is the Nossi Hador and that the Nosi Hador is Moshiach. 1+1=2. He reiterated this theme countless times throughout 1991-2 and it is printed in Sefer Hasichos. Ten l’chochom v’yachkem od.
I’ve been complaining about YWN’s censorship standards (or, perhaps, double-standards) for 4 years already, so I’m surprised that people are only waking to the issue now.
At any rate, I still think that YW is a good platform to express yourself feelings and opinions. Keep up the good work.
I Hope Biden Gets Impeached.
You are an unambiguous liar, and i pray that Hashem gives you the inspiration to open your eyes and acknowledge reality.
You continue to spread misinformation by falsely claiming that Trump first condemned white supremacism on the Sean Hannity show, although he had done so several times prior.
Do you not consider the statement “Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans” which Trump said early august as a condemnation?!
I would like to copy and paste a comment from r’ eliezer on September 27 1:07 pm 2019:
“Impeachment happens when we elect a president without experience who communicates with foreign leaders like a busijess transaction.”
I rest my case….
Do you remember the good ol’ days in 2017 when you and I used to team up against CTlawyer and Gadolhadorah on the thread titled “I hope Trump gets impeached”?
those were the days….
I hate to break it to you but someone that stabs another with the intent of murdering him and that person subsequently dies – regardless of whether the doctors could’ve saved him – is charged with 1st degree murder. FACT
Besides, considering the fact that the presiding jurors where all black (another fact) and subsequently went home to celebrate, I wouldn’t be surprised if the presiding doctors who “missed” the wound were also black, and also went home to celebrate.
The next time I have a chance, I’ll ask a surgeon if it’s possible for a doctor to miss a stab wound. I would suspect not….. what do you think?
did you watch the youtube video from Ben Shapiro entitled “Twitter and facebook just ushered in the most dangerous political move”?
it got 500k views within 8 hours
My blood boils when I read your shameless lies (ignorance?) and outrageous accusations.
Trump has condemned white supremacism more than any other President in American history.
This past August he became the first President to declare the KKK a domestic terror organization.
At that same speech he released the following statement: “Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans. I will also prosecute the KKK and Antifa as terrorist organizations and make lynching a national hate crime.”
How is that for a new dose of (true!) information?
Please don’t misquote the Tzemach Tzedek. According to him, a person is oiver 5 aveiros for every time he shaves. He is the most stringent authority in regards to this matter, and he was attacked by many poskim for his opinion.
When R’ Efraim Mol was told during the Yom Kippur war that there would be a gas attack, and he would have to shave his beard, the Rebbe told him that there would be no gas attack, and that at if the supervisors pressed him, he should tell them that the indian Sikhs wore their masks even without a beard. In the end, there was no gas attack and everything worked out fine.
Considering that Chabad.org is the safest, oldest, most famous, most popular Jewish website, I’m sure YW will have no problem with me posting the following link, although the official policy is that links are not accepted. Thanks
The title of this thread is accurate besides for the question mark at the end.
This thread is outdated. Trump recovered thanks to our tehillim, despite the fact that democrat news said he was in critical condition.
It was me that made the comment about R’ Kaminetzky, not DovitBT.
Conversely, It was Charliehall that made the comment about assimilated Jews, not you.
It is quite interesting how one Democrat steps in for another to say what he means. Why don’t you let him speak for himself?
Could you clarify what you meant by “we don’t go for bad after rov”?
Could you explain to me how 85% of Orthodox Jews are “assimilated” and “turned their back on the Torah” according to Ami Magazine’s new poll that was posted on YW?October 14, 2020 8:52 pm at 8:52 pm in reply to: Ex-White House physician Ronny Jackson ‘convinced’ Biden not fit for office #1910124
Hey, I tried opening a topic just like this and it was denied!
Common, you said that already. By the way his name is Kornbluh without a ‘t’.
Also, @Yechi refers to a CR participant from 8 years ago whose activity on YW consists of 1 comment. I have no connection with him.
Had it not been for that useless account, I could’ve simplified my username instead of having one that barely fits my computer screen.
DovidBT: “Only self hating Jews…. That would be a statement if you replace “trump” with “biden”
Haha. The statement would be even truer if you also added the words “morality” “humanity” “normalcy” “intelligence” after the word “Torah”
It’s also also entertaining to see Charliehall refer to R’ Shmuel Kamenetzky as a “self-hating assimilated Jew” and get away with it without the mods reprimanding him! I remember getting slammed by the mods for writing a comment on the Rebbe’s Shita regarding a certain topic that differed with that of another Gadol.
Perhaps the times have changed and the mods are slacking off or else they’ve been replaced….
Do you really think that I would care to perfectly imitate a racist comment?
I remember when we were in camp, the staff made the Nazi uniforms for the plays with the SS symbol backwards in order to make a “Shinui”. The kids, obviously, didn’t know the difference.
I wrote the basic gist of what he said and I don’t believe they were taken out of context. In fact, there really was no context because those quotes are pretty much taken from responses he gave to reporters questions’. The only one that was part of a speech was the infamous “poor kids” one which cannot be justified no matter what the context is. Frankly, none of biden’s speeches have contexts either, because they mostly consist of garbled flubs and a mixture of comments that don’t seem to have a common thread.
Regarding Byrd, that man was a racist — no question. in the 50s he apologized for his comments right before running for congress. No kidding….
Politifact, which is largely considered a reliable fact checker, stated that for Biden to refer to him as a “friend” is inappropriate and contrasted it with Trump’s association with Rosa Parks.
Regardless, Biden has shown himself to be contemptuous and arrogant when referring to minorities such as Indians and Blacks. Even the Democrats are ashamed of it.
“he wasn’t arrested because he wasn’t there yet”
You do not have to be present at the scene of the crime, in order to be arrested for incitement. Heshy also wasn’t present when mr. kornbluh was allegedly kicked and punched.
When al sharpton incited a mob to murder R’ Yankel Rosenbaum and beat yidden, he was not arrested. Witnesses were present when he yelled “kill Jews!”. Lo and behold al sharpton is currently good friends with Joe Biden and has met with him on several occasions. No surprise over there….