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SE2015. Well said. There is a fairly high certainty we will see some spike this fall in CV 19 in parallel with the start of the regular flu season. That is a given. The good news is that hopefully there is some level of antibody immunity in a segment of the frum tzibur and we have better protocols for treating those who are hospitalized. However, NYC has just issued guidelines for City Schools this fall limiting classes to 3 days per week and imposing strict rules on masks, social distancing, sanitation etc. for all school facilities in the City. Not clear if Gov Cuomo will again try to trump the mayor and impose even more burdensome rules but we know that Schools this falls will be limited. Also unclear whether these rules will affect yeshivos. More likely that yeshivos will be governed by the State/Cuomo statewide school reopening rules coming out later in the week
Rather than litigating a decision that has been finalized for this summer, focus on on the options available for already challenged frum parents to safely keep the kids busy at home, including the many parks and museums in the NY Metro area that are gradually reopening, albeit on a limited attendance basis. Hopefully, many parents will be able to find a day camp program for a few days a week since they have known for over a month that sleep-away camps would not operate.
A month ago we were reading almost daily hespeds about so many rabbonim and askanim dying from COVID and now you guys are all declaring “life is back to normal” etc. I hope you are right but fear that come this fall/winter we will be again at risk if prudent behaviors are allowed to lapse. If you think shutting down summer camps poses a hardship on some frum families, wait and see what happens if the schools are again forced to shut down and shift over to Zoom classes because the recommendations of the public health professionals were ignored
Syag: Most likely NOT. Any competent defense lawyer will try to obtain a broad prospective immunization/no-prosecution agreement but those can be “undone” in special circumstances ( as in the cases of Bill Cosby etc. related to future use of a deposition in civil litigation). Even the Epstein plea agreement purportedly limits future prosecution of his associates (such as Epstien) for related crimes. Some plea agreements cannot immunize against crimes “unknown” or “unknowable” at the time the agreement is entered into. Not my area of expertise.
Anonyid: I haven’t forgotten Bill nor so many other pols, both D and R or powerful men whose accusers have been mocked and vilified over the past several decades. What may have passed for “consensual” or “boys being boys” years ago will not fly today. However, Epstein’s saga is by far the most blatant and appalling of them all. I ‘m hoping she cuts a plea deal and provides information that will lead to some of those abusers and rapists being prosecuted and convicted. Whether it be Dershowitz, Clinton, Prince Andrew, Trump or ANY of the powerful, lets hope the truth ultimately comes out and justice is served for the guilty and those falsely accused be exonerated. .
Syag: There is NO truth to the rumors that Biden ever had an affair with THAT woman or otherwise acted inappropriately. In that case and every other, he proved beyond a reasonable doubt that he was asleep at the time. I’m not giving him or anyone else “a pass”. For every Biden accuser, there are a dozen Trump accusers. The numbers speak for themselves.
From a purely financial return perspective purchasing Israeli bonds are a much better “investment” than U.S. Savings Bonds. From the perspective of yidden, its a no-brainer.
Anon Yid: Why would you think I’m not a great admirer of the Trumpkpf? All the women accusing him of sexual assault are obviously lying and the Access Hollywood tape must have been doctored by the fake news media.
So we should ignore the 15+ women who claim to have been sexually assaulted by the Trumpkopf, his own words on video claiming the right to engage in such assaults etc. but focus on claims by other women who claim that Maxwell recruited them to engage in sexual acts with Epstein’s high-powered friends such as Dershowitz. If she admits to Dershowitz, than perhaps next we move on to Trump, Clinton and Prince Andrew, all of whom have been the target of Epstein-related allegations (and in each case denied).
Lurker: Perhaps your gastro-issues were “bean-related” rather than “fowl-driven”. Lighten up on the beans and use lean chicken breasts/white meat with lots of other veggies and just a bit of fat for flavoring.
B’taavon!!!The one thing we are 100% certain about in relation to the virus is that we DON”T KNOW very much about its long-term effects and the high level of symptomatic variability as compared to prior viral epidemics. Your case appears to have some of the longer term, secondary complications but not necessarily all. The good news is that initial data shows these effects gradually go away but the timelines again are highly case-specific.
You should have a refuah shelamah, sooner rather than later.In the very unlikely event you are not trolling, consider using tofu or other vegetable proteins. Considerably less expensive than beef and certainly much healthier.
P.S. In case you haven’t learned hilchos kashrus, chazal bring down that chicken wings are considered fleishig so if you are using them in lieu of “meat” you should avoid pairing your cholent with a cholov yisroel milkshake.“destroy the suburbs”????
Yup…..the Democratic platform will feature a proposal to require pink plastic flamingos and “Black Lives Matter” signs on every lawn, allowing greedy landlords to subdivide single family homes and bus in low-life tenants from the “big city” to ruin the neighborhoods and disallow above ground backyard pools. Suburban life as we know it will be gone forever.
Thanks for the warning.simpleyid: A “middle”??? The pendulum rarely stopped in the middle, whether it be a political or religious timepiece. Sadly, the laws of physics regarding “conservation of momentum” seem to have been permanently repealed in the age of MAGA. Purists view the middle as “mush” where ideology and fundamental beliefs are compromised for the sake of “getting along” or
Akuperma’s legal and political analysis is entirely correct. In states such as NY and NJ, the wording of the decision provides a very clear roadmap for the Democratic legislative majorities to limit funding for religious schools only to certain narrow areas such as security and compliance with health and safety regulations. This is especially true in a period where public school budgets will have to be cut back to reflect loss of tax revenues from the pandemic. One positive is that Dept of Education guidelines under DeVos are focused on allowing special funds allocated by Congress to deal with Pandemic issues to go equally to private and religious school students.
Is there any room to the “right” of the “far-right”. The notion that YWN leans “progressive left” on matters of halacha comes as a chidush to those of us “progressive lefties” who find the proliferation of chumrahs in the CR a bridge too far. Clearly, its an oxymoron to have a website that leans “far right” on religious matters since no “far right” yid would ever see it unless they get a heter from Reb Al Gore to access the internet.
“Since when does anyone get all broigas about a comment not directly answering an OP?”
Never happened before…..the Mods strictly enforce rules requiring that all comments be directly on point and germane to the OP. Violators are subject to being severely trolled.
Reb Yosef: I recall that Lois Lerner (an expert on tax-exempt giving and former senior lawyer at the IRS dealing with tax-exempt organizations) had stated in a recent article that the IRS and NYS law BOTH require a fairly high level of disclosure of such administrative overhead and fundraising costs by a 201(c)(3) organization. The underlying application is also subject to public disclosure once approved by the IRS.
“Don’t judge a book by its cover. Nor a bochur by his levush.”
Nor a troll by the implicit seriousness of the question or the absurdities of the responses. Ode to penguins.
Do you recall a well known cartoon of a flock of thousands of penguins and in the middle, there is one wearing a red bowtie with a balloon coming up showing the lyrics of him singing that famous Domo Wilson anthem “I wanna be MEEEE!!!!”. You can follow the advice above and avoid something as obvious as the red bowtie but still have some individuality that will not call excessive attention to your lvush. Don’t feel you have to be 100 percent conforming if there some small touch you want to bring to your appearance.
Much hatzlacha in your studies and don’t let anyone denigrate your OOOT roots.
Its already July. The camps will not have time to recruit counselors, dining room staff, nurses etc. for the 2020 summer season. These staff are not just sitting home ready to jump on a bus tomorrow. Preparations for the new protocols would take weeks and most camps have NOT been willing to make those investments without knowing whether they would be allowed to open this year. Hopefully by next summer we will have an effective vaccine which should be a prerequisite for any kids allowed to attend camp. My biggest fear now is that with all the conflicting information and condensed test timeline, many parents will be reluctant to vaccinate their kdis.
Your criteria for the attributes of your beschert are both admirable but somewhat inconsistent. At the same time, your own hashkafah seems to have some flexibility so you might extend that to the boy you consider marrying. You say he must be a full time learner and that his use of a smart phones are a non-starter, even with a filter. Yet, for practical reasons. Yet, for practical reasons, you yourself are comfortable going on to the internet to seek guidance on your own dating protocols. Perhaps just focus on finding a boy from ANY background who seems to share most, but not necessarily all of your midos and more importantly, appears to be genuinely interested in you as a person and building a life together.
Much hatzlacha in your search.
AnonJew: Surprised the neighbor was allowed into the shul with his boombox, much less allowed to play it in the shul. How times have changed. I do agree entirely that in most cases, its what I called the NIMBY/quality of life factors (aka parking, noise, trash accumulation etc) and not anti-semitism that triggers opposition, whether to a proposed shul or small evangelical church seeking to locate in an otherwise residential neighborhood.
All too often, we read here about yidden in some town or suburb opposing a zoning variance for some shul, yeshiva or other mosdos and immediately he/she is tagged as a “self-hating” jew. In most cases, its a NIMBY thing and has nothing to do with anti-semitism. There are many legitimate reasons why an erhliche yid would oppose such a variance just as there are many BAD reasons why both a yid or goy would seek to block such a variance. Its fact specific and very naive to assume ANY opposition to a non-conforming use is rooted in bias and anti-semitism.
Zoning laws and other regulations governing allowable land uses protect both individual homeowners as well as various mosdos in their locational and investment decisions, unless they are misused for the purpose of discrimination. Would a shul that properly followed the zoning rules to build its facility in an area zoned for institutional use be happy if a huge industrial shlachthois or a “gentlemen’s club” obtained a variance to build nextdoor?? Likewise, if I purchased a home on a residential street zoned exclusively for single family properties, why would I be happy if some rav decided my neighborhood needed another shtieblach next door and held daily minyanim with parking issues, noise, etc. Local governments are limited in their ability to deny variances for such uses unless they can show serious health and safety issues.
Several NYS camps have leased camp facilities at locations in Pennsylvania, New Hampshire etc. and there are a few “orthodox” camps in Florida and California. You can find these options by searching on the internet. Otherwise, plan local activities for the summer. Most of the major museums will be re-opening later in July (Met Museum of Art later in August). Check first since some are requiring time-window reservations to spread out the attendance. Most parks in the city and within short driving distance from the City are also open or reopening in the next several weeks although some will have limited activities, again to limit large gatherings. In any event, these will be only partial substitutes for harried moms who already have been caring for the kids at home for 3 months.
The FERC has already initiated requirements through NERC to harden the bulk power system against a wide range of EMP events, natural and weaponized. Not sure what scale of attack you are contemplating.
Syag: Sarcasm, trolling, and bad jokes are all prima facie evidence of systemic anti-semitism by CR posters. Clearly, yeshivos shouldn;t be concerned with “misspellings” (is that how it is spellled??
P.S. I thought Webster’s partner in that dictionary deal was named Chanalah, not “miriam”.
”The cost of land (NIS/sq.meter) can vary by 200x or 300x depending on where you are located. A dunam of land in downtown Tel Aviv, 110 meters of sea-front property or a prime residential block in Yerushalayim will obviously cost a multiple of several hundred dunams in the middle of the Negev. Perhaps you could clarify what type of land you are considering purchasing, for what purpose and the general location.
” If the chasisdim shvitz like the rebbe (I did not make up the term) with fur hats in the summer why should the rest of us be uncomfortable too? ”
CT Rebbe: A very deep and thought provoking question. Perhaps the answer is that they DON’T shivtz and when worn by a true tzadik, Shtreimlach actually have a cooling effect. Perhaps all the misnagdim have been missing the point all along.
LowerTuition: Are you aware of any chassidus that changes over its shtreimlach in the summer to reflect the hotter temperatures? Why do the Litvish feel the need for a seasonal change?
New York’s demise has been predicted on multiple occasions, only to see it rebound. Each time they say “its over” but I have no reason to believe it will be much different this time around. New York will be back in a year or two (likely with new political leadership) but sadly neither the Knicks or the Mets seem to have much a future.
I don’t think the few remaining seasonal rentals in Sullivan County are treated any differently than other seasonal rentals in NYS. Same rules govern depending on the “Phase” restrictions. Most owner-occupied clusters of summer homes are already seeing arrivals from the city.
Chazal bring down that we will not need to quarantine for 14 days when arriving in EY for the geulah when Moishiach comes. However, there is a disagreement as to whether face mask rules will apply on the flight over. I also noticed that the OP included the caveat that “we are VERY LIKELY the generation that POSSIBLY ” will greet Moishiach etc. Thus, while not questioning Reb Yosef’s decision to pack his bags I would strongly suggest CR readers consider purchasing a REFUNDABLE fare.
“Stay at home moms” includes many moms who work from home OR work in part-time jobs. Very few kollel families have the family support for the husband to be a full-time learner and the wife to simply sit at home taking care of the kids. Nor do welfare payments come even close to providing sufficient support for larger families. Unless they are printing money in the basement, someone in the family is working. The good news is that a small but growing percentage of kollel yungerleit are finding ways to earn a parnassah while learning and some yeshivos are allowing for such work/learn arrangements.
After scanning a random set of videos from the protests I’d guess that somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of the participants on average were wearing masks. Also, they were OUTDOORS and a lot of them were trying to stay at some distance from others. Last night in Tulsa, INDOORS, about 10 percent were wearing masks and sgitting on top of one another (although based on the low turnout they could have left every other seat empty)
Does anyone recalling seeing photos of rabbonim in the Alte Heim wearing a straw hat or is that more of a relatively moderneshe minhag here??
Common Saychel: Years from now, your kids will look back and really appreciate the opportunity you provided them to travel and see parts of our great country they learn about in school and perhaps see on TV. They are fortunate because I suspect many frum families don’t have the time, resources or motivation to pursue this type of summer vacation.
The comments above from LittleIKnow provide a common sense approach for a ben torah that either chooses or is economically compelled to leave the Heimeshe “bubble” and participate in the broader economic and social aspects of a secular world that has increasingly “normalized” LGBT relationships and lifestyles. One can interact with them in a respectful manner as with any other work colleague or stranger, without “encouraging, endorsing, or supporting their “to’eivoh”.
Not to minimize the loss of Tallis/Tefillin, which I hope are found and returned to him, these days its encouraging to read about a case where an older yid is admitted to the hospital and B’H is released the next day.
When asked in a recent Fox interview why he didn’t take steps on January 21, 2017 to replenish the “empty cupboards”, The Trumpkof replied that he was too busy busy keeping out Muslims, writing love letters to North Korean President Kim-Jung-Un and most importantly, spending 133 days during my first 3 years as President playing golf at Trump properties, not to even mention the personal stress from the Russia Hoas.
Frumshmurda: You neglected to report that Fox News also showed pictures of Martians landing in Willy and BP were seen wearing masks, so they are taking the viral risks seriously. Geez…..where do you guys dig up this garbage??
Echo: Not sure if you are serious or trolling but if the former, you might aliyah to the PRC since the government is in the process of installing the world’s most advanced and intrusive camera/video monitoring technology with an AI capability of tracking a billion souls 24×7 and providing instantaneous locational information on problematic individuals. A new version of 1984 in 2020.
Yehudalah: Higgins is a relatively ignorant former Deputy Sheriff from a state with one of the highest death rates from CV19 who even before the virus, had characterized public health restrictions as an “infringement” on personal liberty. He goes out of his way to blend right wing Christian Evangelical cultural themes with Trumpkopf-style science denial on matters that even most Republicans accept as fact. Wearing a mask doesn’t fully protect others near you from infection (if you are asymptomatic) but it certainly reduces transmission. Likewise, it slightly reduces your own risk of being infected by droplets exhaled from others nearby.
“when I was a child going to the airport to watch the planes take off and land”
Perhaps going to the Home Depot to watch their demonstrations of how to tile your shower in the Post-Corona era or if you are up in the Mountains for the Summer,
edited. Is it really that difficult to write a post without adding a smear of the frum community? I did notice you refrained over the last few months, sorry to see it’s revival -29
Otherwise, the outdoor tables at Tavern on the Green and several other city parks provide a nice place for a drink with the benefits of an outside venue.
“I generally find that frum families are aware of the need to pick up after themselves in park settings. The few times I’ve seen flagrant disregard for leaving trash behind/ littering are in the context of large families with very young children who likely are NOT regular park visitors (outside of local city parks) and are just overwhelmed with keeping track of the kids, etc. Most respond positively (and with some embarrassment) when someone points out the mess they were about to leave behind. I don’t think its a cultural disregard for nature or an arrogance that since they don’t plan to be back the next day or week, “who cares”. I do wish more yeshivos would find some opportunity to encourage environmental awareness and personal responsibility in the daily lives of their talmidim to be good stewards of (in the words of the OP) “the beautiful nature of Hashem”.
Don’t underestimate how Gorsuch’s opinion, aside from his obvious effort to demonstrate “consistency” in his textual approach to legal interpretation, will also help tee up a future effort to further narrow so-called
Chevron deference”, in terms of how the Courts defer to agency interpretations of statute based on their assumed subject matter “expertise”, where the statute fails to provide detailed guidance on implementation.The Health Commissioner of the City of Tulsa says that the Trumpkopf should NOT hold the rally next weekend but he has no legal authority to stop it since the State has “reopened” to everything with no restrictions. The insanity of having thousands of screaming Trumpkopfers sitting on top of one another with no masks will likely trigger some spikes in the City’s rate of infections but no problem…..they will all have signed a risk waiver so they cannot sue anyone. Perhaps the only positive outcome might be a substantial surge in the infection rate in Tulsa over the next 2 weeks that might result in restrictions on future rallies. I found it laughable that Trump required a NEGATIVE virus test for those attending $250,000/person fundraiser at his NJ golf club last night but no requirements for the poor shleps rally in Tulsa with him next weekend.
Parents should be focused on how their kids’ schools are preparing for reopening this fall, both in terms of adopting the needed safety protocols recommended by the CDC and how the kids will make up for 3 months of lost in-class instruction. Do the schools start with the lesson plans where they left off in March or do they begin the new school year with the new grade lesson plans as if the kids were able to pick up all the “missed” instruction either through zoom classes, home-schooling etc? `