Grey matter

Numerous undiscussed studies say reinfection is very rare. You are indisputably at a much lower risk than a J&J recipient. If you get reinfected it is basically guaranteed it will be light. You can take the shot to avoid that small possibility. Also there is societal pressure and soon you may need a vaccine passport to do regular activities. I had Covid I took the vaccine for the latter reasons. It’s not a big decision. Do what you want.

Read the Baal haturim in bo well. I dont think he is suggesting that when mashiach comes we will be in our homes and prohibited to leave. He is connecting the four mentions of the word yocheluhu. In miluim the connection is less obvious so he explains the connection, that both by mitzratim and milium one cannot leave there home. he doesn’t suggest it will be the same by mashiach. One can suggest that but the Turim probably isn’t, read it carefully.

I suspect it was very widespread. But I am not sure. What I do know is that rishonim and geonim made such predictions. Furthermore I once read that writings of the “dead sea scrolls” said they believed mashiach is imminent.

Rational and chugibugi no! You can’t call all who predicted the timing of mashiach charlatans or fools. Our great gedolim have made predictions Rav saadia the rambam and many more. Yes it does need to be understood and yes making predictions is a very tricky and dangerous business
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I agree with most of the previous postings. The assailant was certainly in the wrong and should be prosecuted. Her actions where unacceptable. We must stand behind the victim that was hit. That being said the way the lady with the camera handled it (although perhaps somewhat understandable in the circumstances) was beyond just not smart it was a tremendously bad idea.

“Next, I said that in this generation we should not be actively he seeking people to make baalie teshuvas in the US “

That’s what I don’t like I don’t think we should renege on our moral responsibility to educate our brethren based on your presumptions. I think you are advocating murder (passively) without any serious basis.

Yes Interjection that is philosophers assertion. Please see my previous comment.

Excellent laskern that is a proof that the CH brings in gate of reliance to hishtadlus. We all agree that’s a real mitzvah.

I maintain what I said as well as my diagnoses of the diagnosticians. Hashem runs the world. Our rabbis teach us that all deaths are predetermined. Hot plates, menorAs, waves and cancer don’t kill people, HKBH does. I am not downplaying the mitzva of hiishtadlus. I am merely pointing out the the reason why people tend to stress hishtadlus can be because they cannot cope with the realities of our powerlessness and submit themselves towards Hashem. It is Often not driven by a zealous feeling towards the unique mitzva of hishdatlus, rather a lack of appreciating the relatively unrelated mitzva of emuna. This attitude often if not stated explicitly you must pay attention to the tone of the comments. If you pay attention,you will notice many of these comments will not bother with understanding the details of what actually happened before laying blame on somebody or other. It is a way of making sense of the world. If there is no obvious hazard that can be blamed, they will create new ideas to solve the perceived problem. That isn’t our way. Just like after Israeli miraculous wars we shouldn’t say it is because of the brilliant generals strategy, so too after tragedies our knee-jerk reaction shouldn’t be to blame circumstances. I like what rjh18 said. Do you think there was a sudden lack of carefulness that just somehow happened in the past couple of weeks, or perhaps there is a unique message here from heaven to improve ourselves. If after this realization, it helps motivate us to work on hishtadlus I suppose that is a good thing. But for that to be the immediate response is both wrong and insensitive.

Here we go again. The Monday night quarterbacks telling us post facto that the decision upstairs would have been different had people followed their advice. As if we all haven’t gone swimming without life jackets (I’m not recommending it). We all also have menoras lit and fires usually don’t happen. This is the commenters way of thinking: “I can’t accept things are beyond my control therefore I’ll diagnose it. Just follow my advice”. But it’s done under the guise of legitimate religiosity. I’m not saying we shouldn’t take precautions. we should. Listen to your lifeguards advice. But in reality that’s is where the comments come from. Waves don’t kill people those decisions are made upstairs.

I think that is a brilliant idea. Prices will go down because of a meat surplus. I will be able to buy more meat for less. I say go for it.

“Neither. I think they do a pretty good job of staying in the center, because I see people complaining they are too liberal and I also see people complaining they are too conservative. This leads me to think they are doing a good job of staying in the center. I see comments with different opinions, and articles with different biases.”

Wich means just means that they are more centrist as far as there readership is concerned. But being centrist among the yeshiva is very much to the right of the general populace.

I’ve heard this claim before. It is false but I won’t bother to bring sources until you do.

I’m comfortable with the word fools. Pesukim in tehilim refer to those who deny Hashem as fools. the Rambam in igeret Teman refers to believers in jc as fools. perhaps being raised to think foolishly is a kinder way of wording it.

I agree with you that we don’t know how things will happen. My point is I don’t think it is difficult to conceptualize. Let me present a theoretical scenario. There is a big Baal teshuva movement. Religious Jews also will have many more kids. All or almost all of Israel becomes frum. They elect a gadol as a prime minister. He fights political and strategic wars. Then after fulfilling all conditions, he announces he is mashiach.

I do agree with some of the answers. I don’t think it unusual that you are surprised by a guy doing something out of the ordinary in your circles. I think it’s a incredible that some very “mature” people are being nasty to you for absolutely no reason. And I’m sure they all would be ashamed to talk like that in person. But it’s ok to be extremely nasty (unjustifiably ) over the internet.

I think you are new here, let me explain. The “nasty” is not directed at the complaint, it is a special tone reserved for troll posts and their posters.

Perhaps I should count my blessings. What your saying isn’t kefira. It prob isn’t even an issur of Navi sheker. It is simply an inability to read a rambam honestly resulting in a misunderstanding of Halacha. All things considered that great!

I Adressed the second part of your post several times now. It says once he died they knew he wasn’t mashiach/ knew not figured not guessed not theorized not knew unless there was a second coming but knew. dead people aren’t mashiach.unless you have something further to add I will not bother to comment further.

I’m happy you quoted the rambam. He does say clearly as you where kind enough to quote that once someone dies they aren’t mashiach. “He is not the one the Torah promised”. He makes the same point again when he says after bar kochva died r Meir and his fellow rabbis KNEW HE ISNT MASHIACH. You are saying well maybe both of these statements don’t mean what they say clearly that the dead person isn’t mashiach. You decided like you’re like minded friends some millennium ago that there will be (or may be) a second coming. an aside rambam doesn’t at all assem that resurrection precedes mashiach. I can proof this last point if you need me to.

– [ ] Yeshivishrockstar that is an interesting criteria. One problem is there are Torah sources that don’t seem to fit with that. Chazal say there where unsure about whether or not to teach the ways of trickery to people “woe to me If I teach woe to me if I don’t. If I do tricksters may learn if I don’t they well say we don’t know there ways”. He concludes he should based on a pasuk (a second clear source) “This is the road. the righteous will walk in it and the wicked will stumble in it”. we accept a risk whenever we teach the right way. Chazal say ״Those who learn and leave it are worse than all”. Furthermore, it doesn’t solve the problem. It often isn’t clear the historical significance of a figure or work, until generations or even centuries after the author passes. I am concerned with determining whether or not an existing figure goes off.

The Rambam isn’t an issue with my criteria as he was far from universally rejected at any point for any of his works. He was simply controversial.

@ Grass my solution doesn’t assume anything. Nothing is perfect in this world but it is a very good metric. It is much better than for example, assuming you and I will “figure it out”.

Keraveltheint no I disagree. My creteria says if all or virtually all gedolim say the the rebbe of X went off. Than everyone including and especially his chasidim should abandon him. This would be very different than if they said he is a leader Torah authority and qualified to pasken, but I disagree on this particular issue. Same by a posek, if leaders say a certain posek is qualified to pasken aguna questions, but learned wrong pshat in this case, that is very different than saying he is qualified to only teach elementary school Halacha. Once again if you have a different criteria for how to establish if (one again very unusual but possible) a particular gadol goes off I would love to hear it.

As an aside,I’m not sure why you assume techiyas hamesim is before mashiach. Rambam says it is after Mashiach so even if we where to delete (or essentially ignore) the previously mentioned Rambam, the timeline still won’t add up.

I don’t know what the rebbe said. It doesn’t have a significant impact on my life as a non-chosid in 2019. It seems like what you said about not relying on one person as a bases for religion, is identical to what I said. The answer to how we would know if a great person went off.

The rambam I quoted earlier. It’s in the second to last chapter of malachim explicitly says dead people can’t be mashiach.

Actually it is Rambam writes that rabbi Akiva and his whole generation all thought bar kochva was mashiach until he died then they realized he isn’t. In other words once you die you’re out of the running. This was always the case until the talmidim of yoshke came along. It also seems to be a trendy way of think in certain CR rooms.