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Patur Aval Assur
if the gemara is just an asmachta than the mekor for eating might be entirely different which would make it a mitzvas aseih shehazman gerama. It could be similar to the shitos who hold women are not mechuyav in shalosh seudos.
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wasn’t Patur Aval Assur’s chiddush.
It all depends on what the mkor/reason for eating on the 9th is. If you look in the mkor that PAA brought one of the tzdadim is that its not a real limud but rather an asmachta – therefore women would not be mechuyav. Look in the Moadim Uzmanim (chelek 1 siman 53) by Rav Shternbuch who lists numerous reasons for eating on the 9th and nafka minas which may apply to this chakira. additionally Shabbos has exceptions too – shalosh seudos and aish of havdala. If its an asmacta or if its a separate din its not included.
The first edition of the shulchan aruch says “minhag kaparos minhag shtus hu.”
jewishfeminist02
who exactly do you think is responsible for making such decisions and do you think they ask a rav before doing so?
“Sometimes expelling one student is the only way to preserve a proper education for the hundreds of other students they have, who may otherwise pick up bad behavior from that one student.”
usually just the schools excuse because they don’t want to deal with the student (and the students parents don’t have enough money). These are big questions which should be posed to a rav on a case by case basis.
calling PAA to the room
My guess is because he was a zionist. Its a shame that people ignore him because of that as his seforim are fantastic.
I have optimum and I am paying 75 but I currently am getting 120mb down according to a speedtest I just did. When I showed a verizon rep the speeds her reaction was priceless. They cant compete.
no reason to use odin to flash a rom. I only use odin to flash if I bricked a phone or to revert to complete stock.
most probably there was an issue with the file/rom you downloaded (I have had a similar issue before).
get it from a different source I usually use xda.
DY
signature does not appear on the site very strange.
signed
yungermanS
“Why don’t jews run the biggest businesses in the world?”
the slight problem with your theory is that Jews make up a very large percentage of CEOs in Fortune 500 companies. Steve Ballmer (until recently), Larry Ellison, Sergey Brin, Larry Page, and Mark Zuckerberg are just some examples of many Jewish CEOs. Jews have run the biggest bank in the world – the Federal Reserve, for decades.
BeitarYid
I certainly hope you asked a Rav before doing what you did and I must say that your ignoring him is not yashrus and is not a good idea and will teach him avoidance which is a horrible middah and can hurt him greatly in future relationships. If you think its a good idea for him not to have it treat him like an adult not a child. In my opinion (based on experience with similar situations in America) your approach is yatza scharo behefesido.
“My son is pretty cool with it and has actually had a very good year. Occasionally he asks for it back and i change the subject.”
evidently he is not “cool with it” otherwise he would not be asking for it back. if teenagers feel that they do not have what to work with they will invariably rebel at some point.
One last point is that just because something seems to be effective does not make it a good idea or good chinuch. I am sure corporal punishment might work on a minority of 15 year olds. It is still assur to do so.
“The therapist would pay my son 100 shekel every time he came to speak with her.”
this therapist knows nothing about therapy or just plain ignores what she knows. get a new therapist asap. Bad therapy is much much worse than no therapy.
That being said many therapists have rabbinical counsel for sticky situations so that part does not surprise me.
emmet
the fact that he is seeing a therapist is good. However I have to say that something sounds extremely fishy about this therapist as that is not how therapists typically operate (or are supposed to operate). I would suggest that you have a rav involved asap. Is your son aware that the therapist insisted this? And if so how exactly is this “therapy” supposed to work?
When I have guests I typically rush through shalom aleichem and eishes chayil so they won’t be hungry. Many people do not eat much on Fridays and I believe it is not right to prolong things. It is even preferable to skip eishes chayil if one notices that a guest is exceptionally hungry and I have seen it done by talmedei chachomim.
keep climbing
you would be surprised many people who I speak to have various emotional and psychological issues. Life for many is a struggle. I have a close family member who suffers from severe social anxiety so I definitely can understand where you are coming from. I am sure that you have worked hard to get where you are in life and I think you should recognize that. Hashem is aware of your struggles and obviously thinks you are a very capable person who is able to deal with issues that others are not capable of.
As far as the height issue goes I have about an inch taller than my wife and since my posture has never been the best we appear to be the same height. When she wears heels I look like a dwarf. It has never bothered her and does not bother me. Hashem works in ways that may seem strange to us and it could be that your height is a way to ensure that you have the right zivug. Most mefarshim hold that we have little if any control over our zivug at all.
I would suggest that you take a look at the book Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy by David Burns. It is a fantastic book and it may help you.
oyyoyyoy
I am not sure why that distinction has any relevance. Maybe I am misunderstanding you and you can explain it to me.
yehudayona
again the question of whether you are “allowed” to do or not I don’t think is relevant. The question is what “should” you do. I do not think breaking the computer will be helpful in any way shape or form.
If movies are the primary concern one can buy a tablet for under $50 these days that is easily capable of watching whatever one wants. These things have become disposable.
I know of a case where my rosh yeshiva destroyed an mp3 player with video capability and then went and paid the guy in full for the value of it. I do not know if he held that was m’ikur hadin or not. Additionally I think he may have had some misconceptions about what it did when he destroyed it. I will have to ask him next time I speak to him.
apushatayid
we are talking about a 16 year old kid here. what you have a right to tell him is not really relevant. How do you propose you not let him use it if he doesnt comply? Additionally any filter you install he will be able to get around if he wants to. This is a situation where a rav is a necessity. Parents taking unilateral actions in this sort of situation are extremely counter productive and at best ineffective.
akuperma
you are hilarious and I feel sorry for you.
emmet
along the lines of what DY and pixelate said.
what exactly are you trying to accomplish by breaking his computer?
additionally why are you asking this to random people on the internet? I don’t think crowd-sourcing chinuch is a particularly good idea.
I have to say I agree with the op. This definitely changed my opinion of him.
Little Froggie
the mamar you cited of rebbi domeh lmalach is referring to a rebbi muvhak as is a lot of the rest of the stuff you mentioned which is the antithesis of the current incarnation of daas torah. No one is claiming that one shouldn’t have a rebbe/rav. The discussion here is in regards to the current modern day concept that daas torah has the equivalence of sanhedrin even in regards to mundane matters and that it comes from a divine metaphysical source that one is mandated to listen to even if the rav is not in your locale and is not one’s rebbi muvhak. As PAA and Sam2 have previously mentioned this is a notion that isn’t mentioned in the rishonim and seems to have an extremely modern source.
I have no problem with people restricting their internet access in the way that is right for them. What annoys me is the self righteous holier than thou you must do the same or you are a shaigetz attitude that many people involved in such debates seem to have.
DY
There are 2 points in regards to money. The first is determining who a school accepts based on monetary considerations. I dont think you will find a gadol who believes thats ok.
The second point is the communal obligation to make sure everyone has a school.I don’t know who should pay for it and I do not envy the schools and the financial decisions they have to make. Many of these institutions are unfortunately poorly run from a financial standpoint but fixing that would not fix all the issues. I do believe that it is imperative that people should be aware of the extent of the crisis and that askanim should focus on coming up with solutions. I can guarantee you that Rav Shraga Feivel ztl and Rav Aharon ztl would be horrified with the current state of affairs.
Accepting children based on how much much their parents can pay is an extremely shaky hashkafic proposition. I am sure we can get PAA in here to showcase numerous mareh mkomos on the subject.
Universal Jewish education should be a mandate.
Patur Aval Assur
I would love to see some mareh mkomos on the subject of daas torah other than in reference to the sanhedrin. Ok I see there is a sefer hachinuch which extends it beyond the sanhedrin but it does not seem to imply that the reason has anything to do with the metaphysical.
HaKatan
“Never in history was there such a “fifth column” (the Zionists) working against Jews. “
Please learn some Jewish history especially the end of the bayis sheini period.
“The Zionists know and admit all this. How dare anyone blame gedolim for outrageous Zionist treachery?”
So now the holocaust is the zionists fault?
I am not quite sure how the mods (bemichilas kvodom)let posts like this through.
keep climbing
i know of 5 couples off the top of my head in which the wife is significantly taller than her husband
keep climbing
yes there are plenty of them
there are also plenty of couples who are very close in height
Logician
It also doesnt mean that the people who didnt listen and left did the wrong thing either – there are essentially 4 points at issue. what makes someone daas torah, in what situations is one obligated to listen or is one supposed to ask a daas torah, if one listens to a daas torah is that the extent of ones hishtadlus, and in what situations is a person allowed to or supposed to disregard what is said by a daas torah.
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Logician
I still disagree with the parallel for the reasons I stated before. I am not sure what al pi halacha has anything to do with it. The point was an extremely limited point that the event doesnt prove a gemara wrong. Also the story was with R Chaim Volozhin.
Not everything is revealed to someone who has daas torah. Additionally (gasp) daas torah can be wrong. There is a reason for the existence of par helem davar shel tzibur. Daas Torah is not infallible. There are situations in which one must follow ones own daas. These are not matters which I intend to elaborate on as the parameters of daas torah are extremely controversial and is very likely to be misunderstood. this is a matter that (ironically) should be discussed with ones rebbi.
Logician
I have heard the story and believe you are misapplying it. Rav Chaim had no idea the guy was going to die. Even if he knew the guy was going to die the dream had nothing to do with it as chalomos ain bo mamash. The point of his psak was he would have said chalmos ain bo mamash regardless of the result. Not that if he knew the guy was going to die he would have sent him anyway.
the plumber
I dont mean to be sarcastic, but how far does your vision of daas torah extend and at what point is ones own daas supposed to step in. Your mehalech of daas torah seems to be almost chasidish in nature.
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Patur Aval Assur
That Biur Halacha (assuming we are talking about the same one) is extremely strong in particular about bitul torah. I guess that its a concept everyone is aware of but it is still gives me chills.
Logician
So basically you are saying that you agree bekius is important and as you are aware it is to the point that many achronim suggest it takes primacy over iyun (at least in the order of what one should learn) and then you suggest that because it is just “not discouraged” in yeshivos that is enough?
Bemichilas Kvodcha that makes no sense (I do agree with most of the rest of what you said though). Additionally bekius sedarim in many yeshivos is a weak seder if it exists at all – I think that makes a statement in it of itself.
As an aside there is a vast difference in the way iyun is practiced today simply because of the availability of seforim which in europe was non existent.
Patur Aval Assur
yes you are right it was R’ Shimon Fuerst. Its been a while.
the plumber
the gedolim of yesteryear are actually very clear about which one is more important. I remember a pamphlet coming out a while back from R Binyamin Fuerst with haskomos from basically all of the gedolim of the time advocating a change in the system to include more bekius. I assume it isn’t done because bochurim these days cant handle it.
“There is no possible discussion for daas torah,”
Ask your rav about that one or search the cr for the many times this topic has come up.
already quoted the maharal in nesiv hatorah in a different thread a while back on the subject. copying it from hebrewbooks doesnt seem to be working so here is a link to the page if the mods let it. Its in the fifth perek.
I heard a story about rav ruderman ztl in which he was asked why he didn’t have long peyos he answered back (I am paraphrasing as I dont remember the exact words) that when he goes up to shomayim he didnt want them to say a yid like you who has such nice payos why didnt you keep all of these other chumros.
DaasYochid
I don’t eat in the succah on shmini atzeres and I am not chasidish …
actually surprisingly enough 100% of the iranians the the NK aligned themselves with are anti-semetic…..
oh this definitely sounds like the next kosher innovations product
mazel tov
seems like Sam2 is right will bow to his obvious expertise in all Joseph related matters and slowly back away from this thread.
renters and mw13
I am probably going to regret this but are you of the opinion that we shouldnt prevent holocaust denial because you think that wont directly cause the loss of jewish life either or is that too much of a stretch also?
I heard from a prominent rav that if one checks in to the yichus of such people (referring to the netrei karta members who met with Ahmadinejad) they will surely find a shemetz of psul.
Makcklemore
glad to have a fellow long suffering orioles fan here I can commiserate with.
there is a major difference between telling something to a yachid or telling something to a whole class. If the rebbi believes the guy needs such a thing (although I really can not see a circumstance in which it would help) thats one thing. But saying that to a whole class or yeshiva is unbecoming of someone of their status and unhelpful. One can say something is hevel without denying that it is enjoyable (as you yourself said). It is a very fine line to walk. Unfortunately I have heard quite a few rebbeim attempt to argue with reality and it did not make them look good in the eyes of their talmidim. Also such a line of thought if it must be expressed should be said to an age appropriate audience. Not elementary school kids.