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We have 2 halachic thresholds for foods.
One only a real Melech (271 or more Electoral Votes) can decide.
The other only a real Kelev (woof woof walks on 4 feet) can decide. Humans or bears are disqualified.
Compared to the holy Yated, YWN is chol.
YWN is not advocating airplanes to have separate seating and boarding!!!
Mehadrin air: Gate 46 for men, Gate 47 for women.
One does not need to wash their hands before posting.
Men do not need to wrap themselves in a Talis before posting.
But in reality we do not know who the posters are. friend or foe
Sometimes I get the feeling one of the 10 Meraglim is posting here.
This new requirement that men wear only white shirts all the time is another “frum” innovation with which I can not keep up with.
Over the past 25 years I have been protesting both left wing and right wing innovations.
Actually most cities with a significant Jewish population have their own Kupat Ha’ir.
In Chicago it is called ARK. In Dallas it is called Jewish Family Services.
As Jews we can not agree about Shabbos or Kashrus or other issues. But the one Mitzvah we all agree upon is Tzedakah. One Mitzvah that all Jews agree upon in a city can be a tremendous merit for the whole city.
So if your city has no Kupat Ha’ir and you have the means to start one, do so. Call it whatever will generate the most local support.
For there to be Kavod HaTorah those who take on the status of “full time learners” must show at least the same dilligence as those who go into law or medicine.
While some of our more prominent doctors may have slacked off during high school or undergraduate study, it is very unlikely they “slid” thru medical school.
Those who learn in Kollel full time do so only “during the pleasure of thier wives”. At any time the wife can take out the kesubah and read it to her husband and make him go off to work.
Even if someone has a large trust fund and wants to be in Kollel, but also want to be able to “slack off”, the Rosh Kollel needs to deny him full time status and insist he do something else at least part time, so as not to dilute the “profession” of Torah.
Joseph,
I checked out the Gemorah in Shabbos 62b. There was much more going on than just “excessive cosmetics”. The behavior was that of a powerful entrapment of those vulnerable to sin.
A few generations later Ezra was trying to encourage Jewish women to upgrade their appearances to reduce the problem of intermarriage.
“Bizayon haTorah” is a community relying upon MOFES (an acrynoum for various government support programs).
The reality in the world today is that secular studies are key to most ways of earning Kosher Money. In the past this was not true.
Without Kosher Money there can be no Gadlus in Torah nor any Kavod HaTorah.
What works is for the vast majority to work and support a small Shevet Levi properly so they be free to fulfil their mission with Kavod.
“when we can talk about the times of Chizkiyahu when we had conscription INTO Kollel”
They had the booty from Sancherev then.
Did this Kollel lead into a long tern spiritual rise?
As soon as Chizkiyahu died, Menasheh took over and we had what might be the steepest spiritual decline in our history…
“Josh, You never worked in a 24/7 business that accommodated frum Yidden?”
Usually that is because the prospective employee has a hard to find skill which requires extensive training and at least a Bachelor’s degree.
1. Air traffic controller: $102,030
Planes fly on Saturday in the USA.
2. Funeral director: $79,517
The Malach HaMoves (Angel of Death) does not take Saturday off.
Hysterical families need “hand holding” immediately.
3. Operations manager: $77,839
4. Industrial production manager: $73,000
Production plants run continuously here in the USA.
5. Transportation manager: $72,662
6. Storage and distribution manager: $69,898
Trucks run Friday night & Saturday.
7. Computer technical support specialist: $67,689
11. Computer specialist: $59,480
When the system crashes Friday night, users will not wait until Saturday 9 PM.
8. Gaming manager: $64,880
Friday night and Saturday are probably the casinos’ busyest times.
9. First-line supervisor/manager of police and detective: $64,430
Crime does not take Shabbos off. Crime scenes need to be investigated in a timely manner.
10. Nuclear power reactor operator: $64,090
I believe Chernobyl occured 1 AM Saturday morning.
“Many lawyers, especially fresh out of law school, are expected to put in 7 days weeks.”
That may be at the highest pressure law firms. Take an “in house” position at a large firm and you can have a “life”, although the pay is not as high.
Accounting, engineering and law appear to have plenty of “Shabbos friendly” opportunities. I can speak from direct experience for engineering.
The top 11 of the list of 25 by Joseph are relatively well paying in large part because the job requires you to be on call 7/24.
Some careers are more Shabbos friendly than others.
A lot of those jobs listed by Joseph can present real Shimiras Shabbos problems.
For those who hold children should only have 3 weeks of summer break, posting in the Coffee Room is Mamash Bitul Torah. Especially during the month of Elul!!!
Gevald Gevald
gemorakop: “Nirpim atem nirpim”
Shabbos and Yom Tov are about 20% down time
Perhaps the kids need one week of down time after camp before starting school.
Kids sometimes get driven with schedules of intensity that most adults would not subject themselves to.
We have two nice Eruv communities here in Dallas. We have both a strong growing MO and Charedei communities each with their own schools. For MO contact http://www.shaaretefilla.org/ and http://www.movetodallas.org. For Charedei contact http://www.ohrhatorahdallas.org/Welcome.html. Also we have a Sephardic shul. All these in the original Eruv community where I live. There is a newer community up north also with an Eruv.
“He travels TO EY for parnassa? Most people do it the other way.”
This used to be the thinking.
Now Israel (or EY) has a much stronger economy. High tech is very strong there.
In my work many of my most important customers are in Israel and I try to visit them once a year.
Perhaps some aspects of Geula are already unfolding…
There is more learning Torah now than any other time I can recall.
But is the learning driving our behavior?
When we learn Kesubos we must stengthen ourselves in the Mitzvah of supporting our (for Bochurim – future) families in a kosher and respectful manner.
When we learn Baba Kama we must get the message not to be a Mazik (damager, such as an aggressive driver) or Ganav (theif).
Last week we R’L saw negative examples.
We must make every effort that we don’t see such images again in the future.
“The importance of this is akin to the importance of everything being in order on a kesubah, or the marriage is not valid.”
Wrong.
The YWN moderator is sleeping on the job and should not allow posts like this to pass before verifying with an expert in this area of Halacha.
I do not have any Rabbinic ordination, but
Based upon my best understanding:
An invalid kesubah does not invalidate the marriage itself. A new kesubah is required immediately. Many, if not most or all of the monetary obligations are still binding on the husband even if no Kesubah is written.
The Torah commands us to remember what Amalek did to us, not fan our internal disputes from generation to generation. All this does is cook up hatred for fellow Jews.
Darchei Noam and Joseph,
You are willing to downplay the fact that Jews were always Dhimini (second class citizens) in the Arab world , but play up every sin of the “Zionists”. You do not even give the State of Israel the respect that was given to Czar in Russia.
All this intense hatred does is fan the flames that burned the Temple 1939 (or 1941) years ago. They were burning last week an made life very hard for anyone in the affected neighborhoods (mostly Charedei)whose lungs are sensitive to smoke.
What practical steps can we take to be calmer drivers?
Music is a well known tool for calming aggressive drivers.
I know it is the 3 weeks, but the prohibition of aggressive driving is much more severe than the prohibition of music.
Jphone, has the driving got more aggressive in the last week and a half?
The fraud of “buying” an item that you do not plan to keep is very different than the USA coin program. In the former you are causing real and quantifiable monetary damage to a store, the same as smashing the glass in a display case.
With the USA coin program you are going along with a plan to “push” dollar coins into circulation and get some of them into the hands of collectors. They are giving you an incentive of getting a free loan of the face value from the day you actually recieve the coins until your credit card payment is due.
Most of the world has accepted the use of coins for monetary amounts of about a dollar. In Israel the lowest paper money amount that I used on my last trip there was 20 Shekel or about $5-6. Getting Americans to give up the paper dollar for a coin does not seem easy. The fact that they lifted the quantity limits for the dollar coin program probably means that not enough people were subscribing to the program.
“The discussion of a choshuve or not choshuve food is cute, but irrelevant.”
Wrong. If it was irelevant then Rav Elyashiv would not have to ask whether Barack Obama eats potato chips.
Hockandahalf: When you get 67,000,000 votes you can decide what is Choshuv.
As p practical matter, any new school will need to be built to straddle the city’s boundary.
That way Limudei Kodash can be done inside the city and all Limudei Chol including computer classes be done outside the city.
Joseph, all you need to do is declare those who do not follow your chumras as been lax in an area of Halacha, and suddenly they do not count towards determining Minhag Hamakom.
Since the fall of 2004 the evolution of chumros in the right wing has been breath taking in speed.
New chumros about womens stockings are taught as if they are Halacha LeMoshe M’Sinai.
Our daughters recall that their pious grandmothers did not abide by such chumros, and suddenly they will not listen to anything about Tznius.
One Baal Toseif can uproot the whole Torah (r’l).
Now I understand why one error posuls an entire Sefer Torah.
With Joseph’s reasoning 10 highly motivated individuals can set a tough standard of Minhag Hamakom and leave everyone else in the “dust”.
Do we want to be a nation or a pious sect?
The Bar is being raised higher and higher and too many people are falling off r’l.
Finally there will be only a few who can keep to the lofty standard and Moshiah will have to come. But no one will come out to greet him.
The women will not come out to greet him because of tznius.
The men will not come out to greet him because of bitul Torah.
The title of this thread is “overkill”.
The word Matzav I best remember was used in Israel during the Yom Kippur War when we were attacked by the Egyptian and Syrian armies.
When I first saw the thread title I thought it referred to a serious crime situation r’l.
Orthodox Jews who are not as spiritually motivated moving in to a community do not justify the use of the word “matzav”.
The intense Torah community of Lakewood can be looked upon as the modern day equivalent of the Shevet Levi (Levite tribe).
However, the Shevet Levi was not given the “spiritual luxury” of having a pure isolated community. Instaed Moshe broke them up into 48 small towns spread out among the other tribes. If you take Moshe’s earlier census of 22,000 Levites and divide into 48 cities that gives less than 500 Levites per city.
“Does lo sirtzach change as well?”
Throughout the 1900 year Golus, vulnerable Jewish communities whose existence was threatened by traitors had to take action for their survival. See the Gemara in Gittin that action against Bar Kamtza should have been taken, but was not taken due to the excessive piety of Rabbi Zecharia ben Avkolos.
Now that we have a State the need to take such action against traitors is actually less.
But in 1924 what was published in London’s Daily Express could put Jewish communities at extreme risk. Look up their March 24, 1933 headline. Type in a search engine “
daily express march 24″.
“to try to prevent further defilement of the Land”
For a Jew to bar another Jew (religious or not) fleeing oppression from entering the land of Israel for this reason is murder.
If the Jew doing the barring is in Israel then he also defiles the land with murder.
Jothar,
Killing is not murder when 3 conditions are fulfilled. The person is a threat to yours or others lives; killing the person will actually alleviate the threat without creating an even greater threat; and there is no other way to remove that threat. Classical example is an armed robber who breaks into your house at night.
The Jews that became irreligious a few generations ago in Europe would have anyways without “Zionism”. They would have married non-Jews, perhaps been baptized and would have fully assimilated in their host countries. What “Zionism” accomplished was keeping a sense of national identity and kept them from intermarrying.
Jews that abandon G-d but not the Jewish people can return in future generations as many have. Intermarriage is the point of “no return”.
A600KiloBear: Some of what you say is pure “Debat HaAretz” and must be protested.
Your statement that begins with “The medine is” is pure Sheker (lying) and denigration of the Jewish People and Land. There are many facts to contradict that statement. I will point out two: Israel has strong high tech industry that is respected throughout the world. It is very likely the microprocessor that your computer runs on was developed in Israel. Many of the medicines used here in the US come from Israel.
Back to the sefira issue. A lot depends upon the purpose of the music. One station offered a CD called the Road Rage Remedy. So if playing music in the car is what it takes to make us safe drivers then safety has to be the overriding concern even during the 3 weeks and 9 days. In Gemara Chulin there is a long discussion to show that we must be more stringent about danger than with (even Biblical) prohibition.
What is a moderator?
One definition is a substance (typically graphite) which slows down the neutrons to allow the fission process to occur in a nuclear reactor!!!
Which Joseph? There appears to be two of them. Based upon first post dates, there is Joseph7-26 (very right wing) and Joseph9-20 (more moderate).
G-d is involved in our National Destiny in our generation.
Shortly after the holocaust (the reasons for we will never understand in this world) we were given back sovereignty in Eretz Yisroel. Recently the high tech boom has greatly strengthened the economy there.
On Purim 1953 the evil Stalin who had a plot to deport all the Jews in what was then the USSR was struck down with a final terminal stroke. 4 days later he joined Nevuchadnezer, Titus and Hitler.
On the 3rd night of Pesach 1986 the Soviet Union began its final meltdown (Chernobyl). Unfortunately, it was associated with a lot of human suffering and that is why 3 of the 16 drops are removed from our wine cups. (Dam VaEsh ViTimrot Ushun refer to events close to the final redemption.)
Learning and the outside world interact.
When I learned Eruvin, every Lechi, Mavui, Kora, Chatzer in Bavel was destroyed in Desert Storm. When I studied Bnei HaIr in Megillah, the shul I went to split into 2. When a certain legal case flooded the news, it got me fascinated with the legal process and I decided it was time for Sanhedrin.
When I studied Kilayim I wondered why 4 Amos were needed between rows of vines. Just then I had some business trips to Tuscanny in Italy, and sure enough, vines are spaced to allow a car to pass between the vines.
31 is the number of kings the first Joshua defeated.
What is the 27 in flatbush27?
With what I heard about the tax rates in NYC, paying only taxes comes out to 10-20% discount.
The cow is now a goses (moribund).
There is no Mitzvah to be really drunk. To drink more than usual, yes. To bring ourselves down to the level of Mamash (real) drunkenness, no. We are never commanded to degrade ourselves. We see early on in the history of man the degradation that comes from drunkenness – Noah and Lot. The Rabbis would never ask us to stoop to that level.
At that level we lose the form of being human and are completely cut off from any holiness. For example, tznius does not apply to cows.
And during times when high fences against sin are needed, then even social drinking even on Purim needs to be curtailed. Only when high fences against sin are needed do we need to consider discouraging women from dressing up in costumes on Purim.
flatbush27, You declared, “I dont think its tznius at all for women to dress up or wear costumes on Purim.” To me that means a ban.
In the last several years we have seen a lot of Gedarim (fences) in the area of tznius go up. Allowing any drunkedness leaves a huge gap in the fence.
When you have huge gaps in the fence adding a few more feet to the height of the fence is meaningless.
I think we have milked the cow dry.
If we are going to enhance the fences protecting against sin then I hereby propose the following demostration project:
On Sunday March 8: Post all around Flatbush NY Kol Koreis that will ban drinking by all women and unmarried men. Married men will only be allowed to drink slightly more than they normally and only if they get written permission from their wives. This will accomplish far more than any ban on costumes.