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Nevuah, Ruach Hakodesh, Giluy Eliyahu, or Chochma Niflaa.
Quite likely though, it was taken out of context.
Rabbiofberlin- if you know the storeowner why dont you just ask him?
Try creating a united Torah bloc as is first then we’ll talk.
Haleivi: Its difficult to say the Rambam holds the same as Shmuel. See Lechem Mishna Tshuva 8 7.
Sam: Please provide the source.
By the way, the Rambam says there will be no hunger so to say there will be no debt would make sense too. The question is how. He also says delicacies will be found like dirt is.
I wasnt talking about the original matter. I was talking about how misnagdim forged bishmo statements against Chassidim and he denied it.
As far as that is concerned, first of all he was a Tzaddik and an Admur and a Gaon so to say he was a nogeia bidavar may be one thing, but to say he made a misjudgement on a matter that is relatively easy to determine (normal conversation (and the fact that he was received in the first place for a conversation shows something too) is another. Second of all this was a private letter (also it was to his son-in-law the Tzemach Tzedek to whom it was important that the facts be straight). Third of all he was masiach lfi tumo. Fourth of all this letter was not published until around a hundred and fifty years later. Fifth of all what does being nogeia bidavar have anything to do with the possibility that notwithstanding the undeniable machlokes there was a gadol who wasnt involved or had a different opinion, especially considering the *fact* that there were Gedolim who were soon going to, if not already were respecting, collaborating with, etc., Chassidim. And especially considering the *fact* that there were many *big* Rabbonim, some of which were even originally *Misnagdim* who *became* Chassidim.
RavHamachsir- be more specific. What is he suspect for?
Why Turkey? Why not some goy on the street?
In camp the minhag is three.
Health, you could just give away Eretz Yisroel to the the best Chometz Goy around and buy it back when Moshiach comes. He’s definitely more reliable, and it won’t destabilize things as much.
mdd- how would you know that?
Even according to the Biur Halacha, not only is there a Mitzva *if* you eat Basar, there is a Mitzva *to* eat Basar. See Mishna Brura 529:11.
In a letter to the son of the Radziner, the fifth Chabad Rebbe explains that the Arizal never said tcheiles is obselete (see there) but he explains why it is indeed the case that no one should wear tcheiles. He also explains how its not a stira that the Tanaim and Amoraim wore tcheiles after the churban.
http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=31622&st=&pgnum=404
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Sorry yitay if it wasnt you. Im still looking for the person who said that but i remeber that it surprised me. I cant edit anymore.
Sam, I’m afraid that might have been his point, but nu… feer ois, what does that have to do with anything? I also dont understand the relevance of his point to this thread. I also dont see why you would substitute him for the Gra, it is so irrelevant, its like bringing up those against the Rambam. Also while you try to defend Feif Un you hypocriticially bring up a story that has much less bearing on the case at hand than anything I said.
Englishman well said. I’ll add that its actually been 200 years starting as soon as R Chaim Volozhiner and that people curiously skip out point c as an option. And it seems to me that people here and in general have a perverse, un-Torahdik, attraction to bringing up this controversy and like to jump to conclusions, assumptions, assertions, when most of the time it is completely incorrect. They totally disregard the reality that they are speaking against hundreds of Tzaddikim (baalei mofes if you want a mofes). So dont go “he did so why cant I?” or “Its not my opinion”. And making light of it like saying Nanachs and Lubabs does not stay with you, it spreads and breeds more misinformation with people who do become serious with it, and say things like “the gzeira was never nisbatel” (like yitay who is supposed to be smart). And thats why Moshiach is not here yet (opinion of Gdolei Hador).
RavHamachshir- I don’t see how it’s a week proof *at all*, and I never said its the only proof, and it isn’t. Please explain what makes it a week proof. What are you suspecting, a lie or a misunderstanding? Why would you suspect that?
Feif Un- Dont just make stuff up. And how dare you?! R’ Akiva Eiger respected the Chassidim and said the misnagdim spoke false against them. See the Baal HaTanya’s son’s letter here: http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=31632&st=&pgnum=301
Or, you saw the table, into two halves, and climb out the whole. Forget the mirror.
Or, climb out of the whole of the table/room.
Popa bar abba sometimes does just that. And I think the incorrigibleness is implicit mockery.
Yichusdik, all I can say is that I don’t feel like I personally fit into those 4 middle paragraphs, nor do i think they are the only ways to look at it.
Yichusdik, according to most anti-zionists there have ben nisim gluyim going on.
What shlishi said in the first sentence.
Feif un you have a point but I think holding people to standards you dont hold by is a double standard and using it in this argument after the fact, in my opinion possibly demonstrates a notion of being moreh heter liatzmo (self entitlement), though I totally agree its applicable where its applicable. In other contexts its perfectly fine even if youre not holding there. I hope I’m wrong.
While were on the subject I should mention even deeper levels of ahavas yisroel or acceptance or whatever you want to call it. For example there is a profound pirush on ma dialach sani lichavrach lo saavid which says that adam karov eitzel atzmo and al kol pshoim tichase ahava. If you use the correct cheshbon (specified there) of how reiacha is komocha you can even project this self love and al kol pshoim tichase ahava (ironically not approriate for yourseld in certain aspects) on your fellow and literally be less emotianally by it (but not oblivious). Theb Hashem will reciprocate mida kneged mida as the posuk says lo hibit aven biyaakov. This can be viewed as complimentary or deeper than the other cheshbonos, whatever. See here baarucha:
http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=16082&st=&pgnum=65
“I am because of my mesorah and because of these and other sources.”
I hope also misvara (meaning look into the svoro of the other side). I think thats what Health is trying to say (though maybe it would be better in other words).
What would blocking you for a week help?
Really I’d rather you stay but just change a little. I enjoy some of you posts. Everything in moderation.
Wolf my friend, I believe there are other less daunting ways to atone for your sins. We could start a thread on that.
Sam where is this Rashi?
Youre funny.
Feif un- I agree with being melamed zchus, but we also have to be realistic about the halachik position in a case (which most often is complimentary to the limid zchus, so calling it a limud zchus is cheapening it). We can’t just pay attention to one, or the other.
Crisisoftheweek- I disagree with your impossible standard assertion(?). It is true that people’s background can form their future, but there are just some Gedolim who are head and shoulders above. So by some, it would just be statements of fact. Though if your point was only that we shouldn’t fool ourselves about our own selves then I would agree. I’m not disagreeing with your view on the Artscroll books though.
I agree with what popa said, and would like to add that many people here are being hypocritical.
I would like to put in a request for all the hypocrites.
Curiosity, I didn’t say not.
Avi K- You call this government a change in Shibud Malchiyus just because Jews are in charge?! That is astounding!
“Is it safe to say that if one follows a p’sak of R. Yakov Emden zt”l, that he is on solid halachic grounds?”
If not a single Posek follows his opinion in a certain matter anymore, I would say you can’t.
You are a troll. I don’t know why you have free reign here. Hopefully its not as nitpicker says here. You probably want some validation. Or you suffer from chronich Schadenfreude and are gonev daas habriyos, hence the term troll. Which means you need help. Ok I’ll give it to you youre smart. Now please grow up.
Moski, I don’t know why you’re still here.
ditto that nitpicker. He should be banned. Along with his babyish minions. It would be one thing if he kept his comments less ridiculous and hurtful and interfering and didnt always put them in a serious conversation and have his little minions coincidentally chirping his praise. Thats why i vote to ban him. Since that wont work i will boycott him from now on, excluding certain inevitable circumstances. Anyone else up for that?
Gavra, ya thats ideal but mitich shelo lishma bo lishma so no that source wouldnt automatically exclude women.
Both.
I don’t even get how its possible to have multiple screen names when its officially not allowed.
I would ban popa and bar shatya first.
How many visitors daily, ZeesKite?
HaLeivi, speak for yourself. There are a number of things wrong with your statement.
Mobico is demonstrating guilty-consciense, blatant, closed-mindedness. He’s almost saying, if there is an appeal and quality that Chassidus has over non-Chassidus, then why are there still non-Chassidim (good question in a non-rhetorical context)? That is biased ignorance at its best.
Oh no. Its so much more bihisyashvus without you.
“It is a dishonest tactic that shames its users.”
If you’re talking about me, I didn’t intend to shame anybody (for the sake of shaming), and if I did I apologize, and I definitely wasn’t employing tactics. I was responding to Sam’s interpretation (which, what do you expect, it’s apikursus), not mine. And with that, I have to say that I don’t only want to defend myself, but accuse you of misjudging.
I didn’t say anyone was an apikorus chas vishalom, just that they don’t properly recognize it. I said krum because in my opinion it was surprising that Sam, who is often erudite and accurate, was seemingly way off, which I suspect had to do with an unfortunate bias.
“I thank Hakodosh Boruch Hu every day for the gift of renewing Jewish sovereignty in Eretz Yisroel.”
Very nice. I think many anti-Zionists will agree that Hashem did miracles with us.
ditto what Health said.
“The “Tikva” of two thousand years described by the author of the anthem is the hope and bitachon of every Jew in the last 2000 years. It is the pashut meaning of “bshuv H’ Es shivas Tziyon.””
Did the early Zionists believe that Eretz Yisroel is literally God given?