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That’s NYs map. Not sure how it measures up to NY Jewish communities, lockdown codes, and other communities.
Also, because of schooling rules, many people were not testing in order not to have their schools shut down. Or having to isolate. That may skew data. And I know as soon as one case would be noticed in some Jewish schools, everyone tested. So maybe they need to check school by school. . .
Also something I have noticed, the death toll in NY has not risen. (Google covid 19 deaths in NY) Only the number of positive cases. It may be too early to tell. I live by Hatzola though. And they have been very quiet… Which gives me hope Please God, that this wave if it is one, is not as dangerous. I would like to see some data between the rise of covid (from rates of positive cases, to rates of hospitalizations, to rates of death) from march as well as how long it took to go from each rise. I am not nuanced though. Just opinionated. Chag Sameach, Good Shabbos!
I’m still here.
Life tends to be more entertaining when sanity is thrown out the window. (both good and bad. Some of the greatest people in the world would have been classified crazy today)
I was impressed as I was expecting it to be one of those typical jewish stories that don’t stick to reality. This one did. Not only were the girls trying to find their way through the darkness of their own emotions, but the author left out enough to keep the readers in the dark themselves, until the end. Basically it’s a good balance between real and emotional, and it’s also detailed yet still very clear. It has my approval.
According to the Mishpacha article, burka wearers say that even if the burka draws attention, it’s not really to them. After all, they’re fully covered head to toe.
Personally I think clothes should not be big enough to transport rare animals under. We’re still representatives of Hashem. I don’t think we’re supposed to be so Tznius that we can be mixed up with the muslims.
However, if they truly believe this is what the Torah tells them to do, then I have no complaints. Just another branch of Jews who believe they’re right. Nothing new in history there. Unless anyone on here is a Burka wearer, leave them alone.
Me? I walk out wearing camouflage so no-one will see me.
On my serious days though, I try to balance Tznius with Good Appearances. I don’t want a shlump to represent Hashem, but I don’t want to become so concerned with my appearances that I waste my time on it either.
Just try not to forget all of us little folk back here in the CR as you make your way into the big wide world….
Nah, Popas seems more of the smartstupid kind….
Lucky! No-one let me pretend to get Semicha!
This thread may also be offensive to those who view themselves as jerks. Vulnerable Narcissists in general have a hard time dealing with self image, and calling them fat may trigger an anxiety attack.
Create a fort in your living room out of chairs and blankets. Best getaway any time of the year at no extra cost.
Dunno. I’ve been looking for one myself. Maybe try ebay. It’s supposed to sell everything.
Profession: CR addict
Status: back online
Note- Went off due to emotional turmoil. Returned after fruitlessly seeking happiness elsewhere.
I can’t give out any more information in case “they” are watching me.
Borei Minei HaAdomah. -Bracha said on humans
This is a lesser known blessing due to it’s controversial status.
Nope. I have monkeys to keep things working.
NO! Don’t eat the pepper baby!!!!
but you could name your fishy “Squishy.”
Make sure to clean and gut Squishy before you cook him. Store him in a cooler until you’re ready to cook him. There are many ways to cook a fish. Squishy can be fried, baked, or even grilled. Let us know how he tastes!
Marriages don’t crumble in a day. Most times, it’s a slow descent into personal routines that keep getting in each other’s way. Eventually, with the loss of that initial spark (a nice gift from Hashem, but it won’t last)Both sides begin to make demands, feel unheard, and not try to repair things until it’s too late. Both sides contribute to the problem. Even in some cases of abuse (you can hate me for writing this, but as much as I don’t like it either, it’s the truth) it could have been prevented had the abused stood up for him/herself in the beginning. Obviously, each case is separate, and should be treated as such. In general, I view divorce as a tragedy on society’s part. And I cry for their children.
I do like this analogy better. It’s a great question for someone stranded on an island, or someone bored enough to care. At the moment I am neither, so good day to you all.
I want to examine this question from a different angle.
What kind of person would take a step backward for every 2 steps already taken?
Perhaps we’re talking about a child, in which case the math will anyways get confused somewhere between 11-90.
Or maybe this is a severe case of OCD. I would recommend immediate hospitalization instead of trying to count his/her steps.
There’s also the chance this question has ADD/ADHD roots. Here we will never really find an answer, because they sold out in the bookstore.
All in all, I think this question needs to be rephrased to something more practical, so philosophers like me don’t notice it.
Finally! I knew you stole the cookies from the cookie jar the whole time. Everyone was busy denying it, but you couldn’t. I’m very disappointed that you stole the cookies, but I’m proud you at least told the truth.
Er, you might want to clean up the chocolate on your face >.>
What if vegetables have feelings?
Vegetables are people too, you know.
If it’s a self- esteem issue, find ways to boost her self esteem. There are probably books out there to help raising the self esteem so she can put her needs first, and feel good about it.
In the Jewish world, there is a huge stress on family life. There really is no comparison to the secular world in which single parents are the norm. In my secular college, out of 30 classmates we had only 2 married. There were perhaps around 5 of us without kids. Comparing that with both my Jewish classes, I only know of 1 divorce out of 60 girls my age.
About the Get, it isn’t so easy for the man if the woman refuses the Get. Yes, it is worse for the woman, but don’t forget the men either. The reason is that we’re not supposed to divorce peoples. Maybe we need to stress how important a decision it is to marry.
Despite our lesser percentage of divorces, it’s still too many
I think it may be from too much pressure for kids to get married young. Why does everyone have to scare the singles with, “you’re not getting any younger?” The moment I left high school people were asking me about dating. I know they did it with good intentions, but the pressure this puts on any single is enormous. It’s no wonder that under this pressure, along with an unfamiliar world of hormones for the single who grew up in a gender separate world, that too many are jumping into marriage too fast, too soon.
There are cases of abuse. This happens, and when it’s escalated past a certain point, divorce is the only option. However, maybe we also need to highlight what abuse is. So our young couples can learn to recognize the signs. There are many preventative measures that could be taken even before marriage. As a family oriented society, we have an advantage in preventing abuse with social awareness. Let’s use it!
I was going to use what my 300 monkeys on typewriters voted, but the name they came out with was too long. Plus, there were too many strange verses so I gave that version to a guy named Shakespeare.
This was their second idea.
SG- Why in the world would you want to get a job instead of spending all your time here?!!
I think there’s some Jewish law forbidding a female and her baby (calf) to be killed together or something like that.
I think (all sarcasm and humor aside) that I have an easier time online, because there are less formalities that have to be dealt with. I don’t have to figure out when it’s appropriate to talk, when I should be quiet, when I should speak up. All the rigid unspoken rules make for very uncomfortable conversations that leave me feeling plastic and empty. Somehow, what’s in my head doesn’t really match up with what I say. By the time it does, the conversation has moved on to something else. Online however, I don’t face this. My fingers just hit the keyboard, and I type what I’m thinking. Then comes the best part. I can check everything I write before I send it, to make sure it’s ok.
Sometime. I think I confuse everyone in my life including me. I’m half convinced I got several dozen people in my head. The other half disagrees.
Here, why don’t you finish off that bottle?
1, a, b, Beis, 3
I used to spend most of my time dressing up in renaissance outfits, but now that I have discovered the CR I found a place I could belong. Here I can say what I want without fear of people discovering my insanity, because we have moderators to delete those posts! I love this place!
Day after high school graduation.
Sadly, my communication skills don’t. That’s why I like the internet. It translates my language.
Ask the CR mods for popcorn. It should come free for every new member.
Thanks for putting a smile on my face. Your happiness is contagious:)
That feeling that Hashem is here for us, there’s nothing like it. I love when I wake up like that.
Burnt Steak- Mazel Tov?!
Use it as a moment to practice patience. I did, and the results are amazing. ‘My’ kids picked up on this, and are so excited whenever a Meshulach comes. They run to get him/her money, and to thank them for allowing us to help in this Mitzva with a smile. Now I love it when they come, because they helped me become better then I was.
I like the sign idea, although I would word it differently. Possibly something like “Baby sleeping, please knock softly.” I wouldn’t want to discourage a Meshulach from coming.
Erm, I think I wrote that wrong. It looks like I’m saying Baruch Hashem. While Hashem is my blessing, here I’m asking for His help with my memory. “B”Ezras Hashem ….”
B”H I’ll let the CR know when this starts happen. Until then, settle down for the long wait. Working on myself isn’t easy. Turns out, I got to learn to be social. Warning: Here comes my plastic smile to hide my sarcasm.
SG – I’m here to change the world. It’s my mission statement.Of course, right now I’m working on myself to be good enough to create such a change.
I have changed my opinion. Sometimes, I automatically assumed things, and then people would post some sources about what different Rabbis/Sources say. It’s easy for me to be accepting of people, but to change my philosophy is another. So the CR has challenged that, even though I don’t usually post in those topics.
I’ll use the OTD thread as an example. I’m of the belief to be accepting of your children even if they choose another path. Some posters however, helped remind me that it’s our job to stick to Halacha.
Personally, I think that at the Bar/Bas Mitzva age parents are supposed to let go a little of their control on the child. At this point, the responsibility lies on the child. So why are parents trying to make choices for them by making them so miserable? Words like “you HAVE to, WE don’t do that, etc.” all imply that the child has no choice. I think it would be better for parents to give the child room to find their way, then to force Judiasm onto them. Most of the time, it doesn’t start with breaking Halacha. It escalates into that. If the parent was more accepting, and allows the rebellion its phase, it most likely will die out. Unless of course, something deeper is going on, like abuse.
Also, I heard a statistic that mentioned unhappy marriages in relation to OTD. Don’t know if it’s true though.
StreetGeek-take it from someone who’s been on both sides of the mountain, horrible people exist everywhere. No matter what branch of religion, philosophy, race, or gender they fall under. I believe that Judiasm can cure such behaviors if done properly. Sadly, most of us don’t. Feeling down about it, is just a test. Don’t look at other, work on strengthening yourself into a better Jew.
Burnt Steak, the question here is why are you NOT on your meds today?
I don’t remember most people I meet in life, so I even if I have met you, I probably won’t connect you to your online alter ego. If you can connect the dots between the different sides of me, and manage to eliminate the sarcasm to find out who I am, you deserve to know. While you’re at it, will you let me know who I am? I’m still trying to figure it out myself…
I have no idea how the friend thing works. I’m only here for a few months myself. I love people, we could be friends:)
Am I getting that right Popa btw?
From what you’ve said, I gather that you see how OTD can help point out our problems, but not how to fix them.
Popa- Many left because no-one listened. Without an outlet for their fears, doubts, and yes anger, they left. Even in the most angry, crazy, far- fetched rant though, there tends to be even a slight grain of truth about our community. Even just for that it’s worthy to listen to. Because we do have problems, and we do tend to ignore them.
That being said, it’s true that the advice given is questionable. How we should change, is something that will probably happen only within our community. It is where we change that we need to listen to OTD for.
But you never know. That’s why I listen to everyone, no matter where they’re holding in life. Everyone has something to add, and I don’t want to miss it because I’m blinded by their defaults.
Thank God I’m not a 10 year old starving in Africa with no idea where my parents are, or where I’m gonna sleep tonight. I’m so blessed to have chocolate!
Sorry, my post got cut off. Maybe I shouldn’t try polishing a Menorah while on my laptop. I’m a little too excited for Chanuka though.
Popa- We’re talking about a law school with a huge drop out rate. At this point all they have demonstrated is that they don’t know how to stop the dropouts. And these are the children of graduates too. Maybe it’s time to start listening to our dropouts.
I’m registering my opinion as a dropout who returned. And I agree with her words. I’ll add that perhaps we need to work on our Bein Adam Lchaveroh Mitzvos, and stop focusing on how others are doing on their Bein Adom L’Makom.
Thanks:) I was wondering if my brief return to life would be noticed. Thank
TAOM- I think I actually understand your necessity of belief. In some ways, that’s exactly what Judiasm is about. Faith. If we doubted every time we had questions, we wouldn’t be able to survive till we get answers. Things seem bad now, but they won’t always be. If there is one consistency in this world to depend on, it’s change. Things will change, sometimes it will be better, sometimes it won’t. But you won’t stay in this forever. I recently saw a good quote that I’d like to share with you.
“I asked for strength and God gave me difficulties to make me strong.
I asked for wisdom and God gave me problems to solve.
I asked for prosperity and God gave me brawn and brain to work.
I asked for courage and God gave me dangers to overcome.
I asked for love and God gave me troubled people to help.
My prayers were answered.”
We don’t always know why things appear so bad, but faith helps us through until we can. With time, hopefully God will show you why He gave you these particular struggles. Having been down the struggling road, I can say I don’t always know why, but I do know God does love us, and is helping us. It just might be awhile till we can really see it.
LeebaW- Firstly, I’m impressed that you have stayed in touch with the Yeshivish world despite your childhood. Many OTD like to deny that part of themselves, and are generally embarrassed of their religious past. (This being from my personal experience during my more rebellious times)
It must be frustrating to see the constant fuss over silly things when many don’t seem to see the whole picture. I know it is for me. I’m glad you spoke out, because what you say is important.
Using Popa’s example, you being vegetarian won’t be good for cholent recipes. However, it’s always important to face the community issues instead of running from them. Vegetarians can explain what is wrong with the whole meat eating process. Perhaps if we listened to those we turned away, we would know what we could do to fix ourselves a create a better society.
I’m sorry that you saw the dark side of religion. Maybe one day you’ll be able to see the beauty our religion has to offer. If there is one thing I have learned, it’s that darkness is everywhere. Horrible people, idiots, and passivity is common no matter the race, religion, or belief. The halo we place around our religion doesn’t stand up to reality, and that can be a deal breaker for many. Try looking past the darkness, and see the goodness in the world. It’s there. It’s in religion. In society. And it’s in Judiasm as well. Once I left my past behind, I was able to see so many modern principles of morality, was already written into our religious code thousands of years ago.
For everyone else here, listen to her voice. Because if we were doing everything right, her voice might still be pro religion, and not OTD.
That information is considered classified, and above your pay grade.
can I get “subtitles are not” ?October 28, 2013 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm in reply to: At what point are you officially one side or the other? #983469
One of the greatest strengths of the Jewish people is our diversity. I’ve said it before, and I’ll keep saying it again and again. There are so many different types of Jews, be it Chassidish, MO, Litvish, Sephardi, Black Hat, Lubavitch, Zionist, and multiple others that go by so many names. Each branch interprets the Torah in their own unique way. Each Jew connects with our heritage in his/her own way. Just as we have this positive strength in which we stubbornly cling to our own way, we also have the opposing negative trait. It’s hard for us to even acknowledge the good of our coreligionists. Only our own way will do. We can continue like this for many millennium, and somehow I doubt Moshiach could even announce his presence because there will always be a group of Jews denouncing him.
We do have another choice. We can stop looking at what other people do. Seriously. No matter where you look, you’re going to find problems. Every group has them. No-one has perfected Judiasm yet. So stop pointing out the bad in others, because it doesn’t help nobody. It just puts them on the defensive, and they will be quick to point out your own defects. Trust me, you have them. So instead, focus on yourself. Let’s all focus on ourselves. What is our community doing today that God wouldn’t approve of? What are our weaknesses? Let’s work on those first. Another community has problems? Let them deal with it. Meanwhile, be nice, be polite, and show them how much you have grown instead of your judgmental outlook.