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It’s important to add that (by Ashkenazim) if the husband wants to divorce but the wife wants to continue the marriage, barring specific extenuating circumstances where he might be entitled to force her (in Beis Din) to accept a Get, the general rule established by Cherem Rabbeinu Gershom is that she’s within her rights to veto his request to divorce and she can legitimately force him to remain married to her.
Dr. Pepper,
The Halacha regarding Heter Meah Rabbonim says it needs at least one rabbi from three countries. Most opinions say three different US States suffices for this purpose. If you want to be more careful you can get one rabbi from each Canada and Israel in addition to 98 Kollel yungerleit in Lakewood.
Yes, air travel in the past made it more difficult to procure. I don’t suppose anyone will insist sending a horse and buggy to Toronto (or to New York, if another State suffices) for the out of state/country signatures. Many things became “easier” in Yiddishkeit due to advanced technologies.
A HMR is not limited to the type of cases (and related thereof) that you mentioned. It is far more expansive to include any case where the husband has a reasonable reason to desire divorce whereas the wife is unreasonable in refusing.
As far as acceptable, the only person that will need to find the issued HMR acceptable is the one rabbi that will officiate for the husband’s future marriage. Anyone else’s opinion has no bearing. (Halachicly you don’t even need a rabbi to perform a marriage.)
The Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that parents have the right to stop all education after eighth grade.
Any 100 kollel yungerleit with smicha can sign a Heter Meah Rabbonim. It shouldn’t be hard to put it together, if one wants to.
Ashkenazic husband’s cannot give a Get against the wife’s will since Cherem Rabbeinu Gershom prohibits them from doing so. Any non -Ashkenazic husband can give his wife a Get against her will. Non-Ashkenazim can also be married to multiple wives.
OP/Besalel:
1. You must completely separate the discussion of education pertaining to Limudei Kodesh from secular studies. Some/many parents, may desire — fully within their rights — to forgoe any secular education and focus entirely on Limudei Kodesh and on being a Ben Torah, Yid and mentsch with stellar middos.
This is not only their natural right, but it is a highly commendable choice. Even if you disagree with the parents.
2. To answer your OP, Torah education has not declined with time over the last 75 years. Au contraire. It has markedly improved.
3. Those spending 50% of their income on their children’s education are clearly and absolutely focusing on their second education. To the detriment of their Torah education, I might add, as the secular is then occupying a significant amount of the child’s limited time per day.
No one needs to spend remotely nearly 50% of their income of their children’s Torah education.
4. Not every of what you call “kosher fields” is as kosher as you may think. Some are less kosher than others, even if not outright forbidden. There is very good reason to educate one’s children to the exclusion of gaining a taste or ability to choose a less kosher line of work environment over a more kosher/Jewish field.
Amil, anyone who would even consider inviting Jackson could not be properly described as frum.
The Queen is simply referred to as “Queen Camilla”. Although her full legal title is Camilla, Queen consort of the United Kingdom, she’s formally referred to as Queen Camilla, much as Elizabeth II’s mother, Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother, was simply known as Queen Elizabeth when her husband King George was alive.
Ebonics?
If Paskesz disconnected the confection, it is a safe bet that it wasn’t commercially worthwhile maintaining.
How is Her Majesty, Queen Camilla doing, after a few days on the throne?
Mr. Paskesz doesn’t live in an Ivory Tower. You can easily find his contact and give him a quick friendly call.
Reb Eliezer, Rav Moshe is very against making a Bas Mitzvah party. He has three teshuvos in the Igros Moshe against it. He calls it a Reform innovation.
Past “upgrades” of the Coffee Room (bbPress) have gone very badly and ruined/mangled/destroyed many (perhaps most) old threads.
ymr: You’re building in too many assumptions. A goy might risk it even if it wasn’t “worth the risk” on an actuary table.
CS: Have you ever met a troll that you agreed with his post? Or do you consider anyone you disagree with to be a troll?
chiefshmerel: Avoda Zora is worse that eating chazir.
If someone claimed an opinion that it’s okay to eat chazir to supposedly avoid chilul Hashem, he’d rightfully be called a reformer. And, yes, the Reform had what you’d refer to as a “greater talmid chacham than anyone on this site.”
Reb Eliezer: the mother threw herself under the bus. And she got herself run over.
Goldilocks: Absolutely.
chiefshmerel: If the King offers you chazir, will you eat it to “avoid chilul Hashem”?
Diana and James Hewitt were guilty of the Treason Act 1351, starting in 1986, a mere five years or less into her marriage. But were subject to (and frankly should have been) executed under the law for having committed treason.
Reb Eliezer, Diana was much worse.
It is prohibited to attend a church service. It is even prohibited to simply enter a church sanctuary.
Reb Eliezer, Diana’s commiting adultery is inexcusable. Under British law at the time, she was liable to be executed, as the law provided the death penalty if the wife of the heir to the throne committed adultery.
“Divorce and separation,” Queen Elizabeth said, “are responsible for some of the darkest evils in our society today.”
And to answer the inevitable questions regarding her children’s divorces, the Queen’s self-proclaimed description of them was “annus horribilis”.
Amil: Queen Camilla’s formal title and style today is Her Majesty The Queen Consort. From 2005 until this morning it formally was “Her Royal Highness”.
By the way, Camilla now being the Queen of England and all her Commonwealths is sweet payback for the adulteress Diana. (Even though Camilla herself is guilty of the same.)
Amil: The London Beis Din never permitted it, despite Mirvis’ church attendance. Indeed, prior to Sacks no Chief Rabbi attended church services.
“Why is the wife of a King called Queen, but the husband of a Queen is a prince?”
Participant: Because the title King is a higher title than Queen. So if the Queen is the sovereign, her husband cannot have a higher title than herself, namely King. But if the King is the sovereign, his wife may have the lower title of Queen.
Amil: Incorrect. Firstly, Queen Elizabeth just seven months ago expressed her “sincere desire” that Camilla be known, recognized and titled as the Queen Consort once Charles ascends. Secondly, that decision by Elizabeth replaced the *informal* announcement at the time of Charles’ marriage that it was their “intention” that Camilla be known as Duchess after his ascension.
But even had that earlier intention not been changed by Elizabeth this year, Camilla would still under British law have been the Queen Consort and would have formally had that title, even had she chosen to refer to herself as Duchess.
All hail for Her Majesty The Queen Consort Camilla!
“Can the Chief Rabbi attend the service at Westminister Abby?”
Absolutely not.
Long live the King!
Reb Eliezer, send a memo to Charles to abdicate, Edward VIII style.
Elizabeth’s health is deteriorating.
Marxist, if you don’t like a Halacha you think you can simply reinterpret a word to change its meaning? Or, even better yet, claim that a common word with a known meaning is some kind of mysterious unknown meaning that, therefore, needs to be set aside and ignored?
moishek: G-d forbid that dating is essentially either flirting or engaging in with no intention of marrying. Both are indeed forbidden.
Reb Eliezer, yes, it’s true. I met that bochor (now married to an African wife.)
Is the bird feeding neighbor a woman?
How can you possibly get rid of something another person is doing that is permitted?
ubiq: No one is in any such “club”. Everyone knows it is very wrong, are embarrassed about any such desire, fight that desire and would never create or join any public club having anything related to such desires.
On the other hand YU, is openly boasting of creating support groups, giving sensitivity training and presenting public events so that their students, rebbeim and faculty better understand the toeiva experience.
Rocky: Bingo! And toeiva homosexuality SHOULD NOT be a public issue either! Why is YU accepting this toeiva as a public issue but adultery not? Only because the perverted toeivaniks DEMAND that their sickness become a public issue. No other reason. And YU plays ball with this. YU, in the long emailed statement two people posted above says YU hosts support groups for them, YU gives sensitivity training of their rebbeim and professors about toeiva people and YU presents public events so that all of their students better understand the toeiva experience.
YU boasts of doing all this on behalf of toeiva people, to push it over the rest of their non-toeiva students, faculty and rebbeim, but does no such thing on behalf of adulterous students.
E.I.E.: I’ve discussed it with multiple Roshei Yeshivos. None of the people you mentioned are close to the top tier. And, yes, we can compare levels – in fact, we need to in order to judge who is an authority in the first place. If you can’t compare levels then how are you to know that someone is a godol? The fact that he is accepted as a godol only means that many people have judged his level to be that of a godol. But if you cannot compare levels, then these people have no right to accept him as a godol in the first place. Part of knowing who to follow is to know who is greater. Godol mimenu b’chochma ubaminyan is an assessment that it legitimately made. And as Rav Shach writes – if you dont know who to follow, follow whoever is greater – and, he adds, you can of course tell who is greater. If you yourself dont know, then thats fine – not everyone can know the answer to all questions they encounter – but why in the world would you say nobody else can know.
Rocky: Don’t they love people who are struggling with the yetzer hora to commit adultery? If so, why isn’t YU support for adulterous students mentioned, with the hosting of a support group for them, sensitivity training of their rebbeim and professors about such people and presenting public events so that all of their students better understand the experience?
“>>>Also, could you imagine RIETS being under the umbrella of the Mennonites?
No comparison. The umbrella YU organization is not under the control of the toevah crowd. Nor will it ever be.”
smerel: Yet the YU organization is condoning, funding and supporting the toeiva crowd.
The Mennonites, like YU, also is not under the control of the toevah crowd. So what’s the difference, if anything?
“Does Yeshiva University welcome LGBTQ students in its undergraduate schools?
Absolutely.
We welcome, love and care for all our students, including our LGBTQ students. We place a specific emphasis of importance on supporting our LGBTQ students. There are a number of ways we express this support, including hosting an LGBTQ support group, requiring LGBTQ sensitivity training to all of our rabbis and faculty and presenting public events so that all of our students better understand the experience of being LGBTQ and Orthodox.”
This disgusting official statement speaks volumes. Does YU welcome, love and care for all our students, including their adulterous students, murderous students, sexual abusing students, Christian missionary students, and atheist students? If so, why aren’t they announcing all those students as well? If not, why not?
And, note that YU in this statement is referring to its undergraduate/RIETS program, not its postgraduate programs.
Does YU
Ubiq, my point is those real Rabbonim who decades ago taught at YU didn’t do so for parnassa; similar to those who teach in Conservative schools they taught in YU for Kiruv purposes.
ubiq, how do Orthodox Yidden teach in Conservative Jewish schools?
Also, could you imagine RIETS being under the umbrella of the Mennonites? And the Roshei Yeshiva of RIETS saying we protested other Mennonite subsidiaries worshipping getshkes but we have no control over what they do? If not, why would anyone think being under the YU umbrella, with YU condoning and funding many aspects of outright kefira, any different?