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EJM: You should be more worried about the constant killings in Africa.
For the same reason we don’t talk about the African cannibals killing (and eating) each other or the other African tribes at constant war and genocide mass murdering each other.
What’s going on in African is far far worse than anything in China.
“That was your sole or main takeaway from my post?”
Wolf: That was my sole objection.
Wolf: He is Mr. Please don’t improperly use a title for him.
“Would you follow through if it was not?”
Are you kidding? That’s like asking would you eat a cheeseburger if you liked it. You don’t have a choice in the matter. You must follow Halacha. No cheeseburgers and yes obeying a Din Torah.
No, you certainly did not answer the question. You made up your own straw question to answer in order to avoid answering what was asked. I asked absolutely nothing about abusers. What I asked about was false claims of abuse. That’s all; nothing more.
“When dealing with accusers, they must be educated about the effects of their accusations.”
And similarly you merely say that when dealing with abusers, they must be educated about the effects of their abuse?
“I would like to hear your suggested answer to your question.”
My suggestion is to simply follow the Torah. The Torah tells us how to evaluate and judge the validity and invalidity of claims based upon the Torah’s and Halacha’s specified standards of evidence.
The disparity in ruchinus between young men and women is getting bigger and bigger. But given that you havent left the tristate area in a decade you probably dont know that.
EJM: Your above comment strongly implies that young women outside the tri-state area are doing worse in ruchniyus than young women in the tri-state area.
Why do you believe that?
User176: Like I said at the outset, you are skirting/refusing to answer and claiming it is virtually never applicable. That is called digging your head in the sand. You are creating a strawman to respond to rather than directly answering the very specific question that I asked. I did not ask how to prevent false allegations in the first place. I asked what to do about false accusations when they in fact do actually occur.
Your answer about giving Shiurim on Loshon Hora and MS”R to address false accusations is like if someone asked what should we do about abusers and you answered that to fix the problem of when someone abused someone that Rabbonim should give Shiurim that abuse is assur.
That’s the exact equivalent of your response. Giving Shiurim on L”H and MS”R is gevaldik and necessary. So is giving Shiurim not to abuse. But my question is what should be done to protect those who are already here and now falsely accused of abuse? To protect them from the false accusation and not penalize or embarrass in any way an innocently accused.
CS: And what’s your point?
Reb Eliezer, are you suggesting that we should start off with the presumption that an accused is guilty until and unless he proves himself innocent?!
User176: Can you repeat whatever message you were trying to say in plain English? I can’t make heads or tails out of you disjointed comment.
To restate my question:
What should be done to protect those falsely accused of abuse? And to insure they’re not hung out to dry and effectively murdered in public embarrassment and approbation even before any official conclusion of the allegation.
That’s all I’m asking. The rest of the commentary you can leave for another time. Please answer the question that was asked.
takah: Do you have evidence that most Reform (and to a slightly lesser degree Conservative) members *are* Jewish?
Certainly, you’ll admit that they conduct false conversions, count patrilineal descent (with no Jewish mother) as being “Jewish”, and the non-Orthodox have a close to 80% intermarriage rate. And these factors have been the case for many decades to centuries (depending on which factor we’re discussing.)
AAQ: Most CEOs and very many business owners (in addition to lawyers, as you noted) are tied down to engaging in their employment or business for an inordinate number of hours every day or week.
Most Uber drivers, on the other hand, have great flexibility in the number of hours and, perhaps more importantly, which hours they work.
Avira, their current intermarriage rate is close to 80%. The younger generations are much less likely to be Jewish than the older generations. Even 30ish years ago their intermarriage rate was considerably higher than what you’re basing your math on.
Additionally, they’ve been performing false conversions for well over 100 years already. I do believe they perform such “conversions” at a much larger figure than you’re counting. 1,000 in 2013 sounds like HUC alone, not counting the far greater numbers by individual Reform clergymen across the country.
The 20% reporting to Pew a non-Jewish mother would only count those surveyed that are aware their mother is a gentile and willing to say so. Most are unaware.
Avira, why do you think a majority of Reform members are Jewish?
Ironically, the head “rabbi” of the Central Synagogue in Manhattan in a gentile.
Wolf: In your estimation, how much more are you earning today given the Master’s you possess, than had you only had a Bachelor’s.
EJM: I’m really sorry but I must decline you membership in Mensa. Even though this wasn’t even a close call, we do wish you the very best in life.
EJM:
1. What is the highest level of education that you’ve completed?
2. What is your primary function in life currently that occupies more of your time than anything else?
3. What is your most important goal in life that you’re seeking to accomplish?
4. Which person outside your family that is or was alive in your lifetime do you look up to the most and wish to emulate?
5. What is your IQ?
Syag, I agree almost in full with Besalel. The only exception I take to his above comment is his disagreement with HaGaon HaRav Avigdor Miller zt’l. Frankly, I can’t even contemplate how anyone could take Besalel’s position over Rav Miller zt’l.
Here’s a question no one’s answered, many have purposely refused to answer, others skirted answering and some dug their head in the sand and claimed is never or almost never applicable:
What should be done to protect those falsely accused of abuse? And to insure they’re not hung out to dry and effectively murdered in public embarrassment and approbation even before any official conclusion of the allegation.
HaLeiVi: The real ones the mods don’t allow.
Just get it in its original form, at its original location, in the heart of Jewish America, on 13th Avenue.
Anyone successful in getting an order confirmation for the free government Covid tests?
Not getting past the last step.
Lie down on the couch and tell me everything that’s really bothering you.
No. A majority of the non-Orthodox movements members are Goyim.
CovidTests.gov
Would you like a drink with your order?
Rav Moshe Feinstein ZT’L denounced college in a Teshuva, and in a famous speech delivered to his students, published under the title “The Counsel of the Wicked” (Vaad LeHaromas Keren HaTorah, New York, 1978). There he reiterates that everyone has an obligation to become great in Torah, we should not care so much about Cadillac’s (yes, this was said in the “olden days”), and that learning Torah is what we should be pursuing, not secular stuff. He says in America you do not need college to make a Parnassa, and we should be willing to live on little, not a lot, for the sake of Torah, and that R. Nehuray’s statement of abandoning all skills in favor of Torah applies all that more today that we live in a country where you can make a parnassa without college, with no miracles needed.
There is a tape available in many Seforim stores called “The prohibition to learn in Colleges” (Yiddish), which contains addresses by Rav Moshe Feinstein ZT’L and Rav Aharon Kotler ZT’L condemning college.
Regarding secular studies in high school, the only reasons it is allowed is either because education is mandated by State Law (in New York it is until age 17), or simply because if they did not have high school education in the Yeshivas, parents would simply send their kids to worse places to get it.
But it is definitely looked upon not as a l’chatchilah, but rather as something that is annoyingly necessary in the current environment.
Today, there are a number of High Schools in America – particularly in Lakewood – that do not teach English. Also, many Yeshivos do try to reduce the amount of secular studies as much as possible, through knocking out the last semester of English, and a number of kids are leaving HS early to enter Bais Medrash.
Rav Chaim Segal ZT’L, the Menahel of the High School at Yeshiva Chaim Berlin was once told by Rav Shach ZT’L that if possible, he should not be teaching English studies. In Eretz Yisroel, almost all Chareidi Yeshivos do not have English at that age. Rav Aharon Kotler ZT’L made some kind of commitment not to allow English studies on the HS level in Lakewood. The exact details, and if this was actually a Takanah or merely a preference, is not clear and depends who you ask. In any case, Rabbi Elya Svei, Rosh Yeshiva of Philadelphia and a student of Rav Aharon’s, was asked why he allows English in Philly if Rav Aharon was against it. What difference can there be between the town of Lakewood NJ and Philadelphia PA? Reb Elya answered that he has no choice, and that currently, the Baalei Batim would not send their kids to the Yeshiva except under these circumstances.
Is any of this the ideal? No. It is not. Is it justified? The schools say it is, as they have no choice. But the point is not what the Jews do, its what Judaism wants. Everyone agrees that it would be a higher level, a preferable situation if we would indeed not learn English even at the HS level, at least not beyond what is necessary to survive. Nobody claims it is an ideal.
Because Yidden are focused on a Torah education. Secular Ed is done, at most, to fulfill governments mandates. Otherwise we’d spend even more time on Torah and less on secular.
Avira, are the sure about your first comment here? hello99 is a choshuve long time Rov in Eretz Yisroel and has an excellent handle on these issues.
Shimon, what resolution worked for you?
Hebrew National has been under Triangle-K for many decades, already.
AAQ, if I’m reading the map correctly, New Orleans, Louisiana is on this side of the Mississippi.
Arizona
Avi: Would you eat Triangle-K meat (i.e. Hebrew National)? Triangle-K dairy?
If not, what are they doing wrong?
New Hampshire.
The Democrats won’t let Hillary have the opportunity to lose for them again.
She definitely is itching to run, though. She never got over her historic loss.
Seeing the title, I got scared coffee addict sighted Yogi.
Then we’d have had the Elvis situation all over again.
Reb Eliezer, if Hechsher X was actually around, would your statement be Loshon Hora or would it be proper for you to say that l’toeles?
Manhattan, Brooklyn and the Bronx used to be mostly farmland with lots of wide open spaces, wooded areas, much fewer people. Now it has all these big building with lots of people after they became “over-developed”.
Some people who lived in old Manhattan and Brooklyn also complained about its over-development.
That’s the normal course of life with natural population growth requiring the building up of rural areas into urban areas.
Home tests aren’t valid for proof to enter a country.
Urgent Care
Democrat Congresspeople in both the Senate and in the House certainly have voted to not recognize the Republican president who won the electoral college in election years prior to 2016.
Shimon and Levi were punished by Yaakov Avinu.
Over-development increases the deer population?
Besalel: What’s your source for that?