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i forget which day
That would be Thursday.
Here’s an even better one for you (although, admittedly, it’s not from davening).
One Tisha B’Av, I was listening to someone lain Aicha. He got to the passuk at 2:20:
????? ?????? ???????????, ????? ?????????? ????: ???-??????????? ??????? ???????? ??????? ?????????, ???-??????? ???????????? ??????? ?????? ????????.
The translation (JPS) for this passuk is as follows:
See, O LORD, and consider, to whom Thou hast done thus! Shall the women eat their fruit, the children that are dandled in the hands? Shall the priest and the prophet be slain in the sanctuary of the Lord?
The tipcha in the second half of the passuk is on the word Ad-noy.” As a result, the proper word grouping is “B’Mikdash Ad-noy, Kohen V’Navi.”
The person laining began to put the tipcha on the word “mikdash” — putting the grouping as “B’Mikdash, Ad-noy Kohen V’Navi” – completely changing the meaning to something blasphemous. Fortunately, he realized his error and corrected himself before he got to the next word. 🙂
The Wolf
Another goodie — word grouping:
In A’anim Z’miros, the following line exists:
??????? ??????? ???? ??????????? ????????? ??????? ??? ????????????
The proper reading is to group the first three words together. Far too many people, seeing eight words and having a tune with four “passages*” per line, see fit to put two words to each “passage.” That changes the meaning dramatically.
The Wolf
* Using the word “passage” out of sheer ignorance. If anyone knows the correct musical term, feel free to point it out.
Rifka with the f is an Anglicized version.
No, Rifka is the “lazy” version since both the /f/ and /v/ sounds are fricatives. The /f/ however is unvoiced whereas the /v/ is voiced. People sometimes take the “shortcut” and don’t voice the consonant.
The Wolf
OK, here’s mine:
When you have a word that ends with a Heh and there is a patach under the Heh, the *PATACH IS PRONOUNCED FIRST* (just like a ches).
The word right in Ezras Avosainu (????????????? ) is not U-Mag-Bi-Ha. It’s U-Mag-Bi-AH (with a mapik heh).
Many ba’alei tefillah make the same mistake in Hallel with the Shem HaShem.
The Wolf
Just curious, i know someone with a catheter that is flying soon, and he wants to know if the security will give him problems, because its a lot of wires
I would be highly surprised if your friend is the first person the TSA has come across with a catheter.
Nonetheless, I would imaging it couldn’t hurt if he brought alone some documentation from his physician.
The Wolf
I think Rifka with the f is an anglicized rendition.
No, Rifka is the “lazy” version since both the /f/ and /v/ sounds are fricatives. The /f/ however is unvoiced whereas the /v/ is voiced. People sometimes take the “shortcut” and don’t voice the consonant.
The Wolf
My personal pet peeve: People who say the name Rivka with an “f.” I’ve heard ba’alei kriah do this. :: shudder ::
The Wolf
I am not surprised that you have parenting issues.
*Every* parent has parenting issues. 🙂
The Wolf
Why is it more important to train your kids to say thank you, than to train them to do chessed without expecting a thank you, by example?
I don’t believe I said that one was more important than the other.
Nonetheless, my kids are teens, not adults. I don’t know that they yet possess the maturity to be able to fully do a chessed with acknowledgment without being resentful about it.
Eventually they’ll get there.
The Wolf
In a case where the kid(like a teen) wants to do something that’s not the best idea, explain to them why it’s not such a good idea, instead of just no. –
I’ve said this line on these boards often and I’m going to say it again. I got it from Faranak Mangolese’s book “Off the Derech” and, as I raise my three teens, I find it to be truer and truer every day:
As a child goes from childhood to teenage years, a parent’s job changes from that of management to sales.
When your kid is a teen, you can no longer boss them around as you did when they were younger. At that age, you have to work *with* your teen, not against him/her.
A teen is searching for his* own identity. In the vast majority of cases he doesn’t want to be exactly like his parents. He wants to be his own person — and he has to search for that identity and discover it on his own. You, as a parent, cannot do that for him. And since his identity is not going to be the same as yours, he may end up doing things differently than you do — even if you don’t like it.
Your job, as a parent of a teen, is not to shape your child’s identity. Your job, as a parent, is to guide the teen as he forms his own identity. If you always say “no” every time your teen does something you don’t agree with, you’re not allowing them to grow on their own — you’re still treating them as an infant. You have to provide them with the tools to make wise decisions on their own regarding how to live their lives. And, yes, that will include their making mistakes and learning from them.
As an aside, constantly saying “no” to your teen whenever they do something that you disagree with produces two negative side effects:
1. It builds resentment. No one likes hearing “no” all the time.
2. Your child does not learn to differentiate between the things that *are* truly important and the minutiae that are either inconsequential or just not as severe. A parent cannot afford to do this — a teen has to know that there are areas where he has freedom to act, but that there are also areas where certain behavior will simply not be tolerated. If you want them to understand the difference, then you have to allow them the freedom to act in those areas of lesser importance — even if you, as a parent, disagree with their choices.
The Wolf
* Just using “he/him” for convenience’s sake. The same applies to teenage girls.
let’s just all feel good and not have to cough.
Funny you should say that because I’ve been fighting a cough for a few days already. 🙂
The Wolf
You can always take the bus.
Not to Israel.
The Wolf
Heh. This is one area where no one can accuse me of being an apikorus or lax in halacha.
I don’t drink coffee. 🙂
The Wolf
As a general rule, I don’t expect “thank you”s* from people for whom I do a chesed. This is for two reasons:
1. I consider it an obligation to do a chesed when the opportunity arises. As such, I don’t view it as having done anything extraordinary that requires thanks.**
2. Low expectations means you can’t be disappointed. 🙂
In any event, even when people do say thank you, I’ll usually respond with something like “it was nothing.”
The Wolf
(* The exceptions are my kids. If I [or anyone else] do a chesed for my kids, I expect them to say “thank you” — more because I’m training them to be makir tov for good done to them than because I need [or even want] the thank you).
** I only take that view for myself. If someone does a chesed for me, I view it as such and make sure to always say “thank you.”
Mexico heavily taxes corn syrup sweetened drinks.
Interesting. I did not know that.
Fortunately, I was still in the United States (even though it wasn’t a state).
The Wolf
Wolf – It was a “dangerous and slippery road” for me to find another beverage besides Coke???
Huh? We *didn’t* buy the Coke.
(Sorry… I’m not a Pepsi fan. We went with iced tea which did have a hechsher)
The Wolf
Ah, when I first saw the thread, I thought it was going to be out davening in situations where, say, you and your friend are both competing for the same job (i.e. where the object of what you are davening for comes at someone else’s expense).
The Wolf
(Now that I brought it up, I’m going to have to give some serious thought as to the morality of that.)
To thine own self be true.
The Wolf
(Nonetheless, I am sorry if it makes you uncomfortable. That’s not my intention.)
Thanks Wolf. It does matter. I’m pretty sure you, GAW and Squeak read my posts.
Officially marking this as “read.” 🙂
The (reading) Wolf
I beleive that the level of self confidence is so low that we don’t hold our participation in a wedding to be of any value.
Hence why I don’t participate at weddings. No one needs to see me pretend to be dancing when I’m really just making a fool of myself.
I do that well enough just by breathing… I don’t have to compound it by dancing. I’d rather just fade back into the corner somewhere — far away from the dancing and the shtick.*
The Wolf
* Unless I have my camera with me — but then I’m not dancing, I’m shooting. 🙂
Anyone with an original voicemail message???
Yes. My voice mail message was *the* original one. Everyone else’s is a derivative of mine.
I’ll be serving all of you with lawsuits in the coming days. 🙂
The Wolf
. . . a tax on
… people who play lotteries. 🙂
(OK, so it’s a tautology — sue me. 🙂 )
The Wolf
Coca Cola is actually formulated differently in different countries. The Mexican variety is supposedly much sweeter.
Is it really? Do you have a cite for that? I was under the impression that they make the (same) syrup for everyone in the world.
The Wolf
(Yes, I know that one poster thinks that my requests for citations are annoying and obnoxious, but so be it)
rishus on your part.
Hey! I thought we all agreed that if there was a rasha on this board that it was me! 🙂 Remember… I’m the one who’s an apikorus because of my self-image issues (according to one poster)?
The Wolf
relying on svoros for Kashrus is a dangerous and slippery road
It was a “dangerous and slippery road” for me to find another beverage besides Coke??? I reasoned that even though it was most likely kosher (and I would have been willing to bet money on it*), I was better off without it. How is that reasoning dangerous or indicative of a slippery slope?
Are you suggesting that I should have bought the Coke?
The Wolf
* Yes, I know that makes me pasul l’eidus.
I had a similar issue when Eeees and I went to St. Thomas. We went to the local supermarket and were surprised to find that the Coca-Cola in St. Thomas did not have a hechsher. I figured it was simply a lack of a mashgiach at the plant and not that it was truly not kosher.
In the end, we didn’t buy it, simply because Coca Cola isn’t all that important to us and kashrus is. But if I had to bet money on it, I would have given given dollars to donughts that it was, in fact, kosher. They don’t make special treif Coke just for the Virgin Islands.
The Wolf
WIY,
The evidence that you brought (while correct in and of itself) does not support the premise you put forth.
The reason that most people squander their winnings is largely because most people are poor money managers to begin with. Giving a person with poor money management skills lots of money doesn’t magically transform him into a great money manager — it just gives him lots of more opportunities to make mistakes.
But whether or not buying a ticket counts as hishtadlus or entertainment (and I can the case being made either way) really has nothing to do with whether or not people squander the winnings away after they get it.
The Wolf
someone’s personality can be judged by their name.
Ah, so it’s my name’s fault that I’m such a rotten person? 🙂
The Wolf
Occasionally and only $1.
My theory is that if HKBH wants me to win, all I need is one. If He doesn’t want me to win, buying a million won’t help.
I haven’t thought about what I would do if I won.
The Wolf
(Yes, I know He could also cause me to find the winning ticket on the street. So I’m not logical – sue me.)
Its mesirah to call the police for anything involving another yid unless there is real sakanas nefashos like if hes attacking you right now.
I actually once called a cop to quickly adjudicate a case where someone* stole something from me. I was able to pretty quickly prove that it was mine, but he wouldn’t surrender it until the cops forced him to.
While I didn’t press charges, I guess I am a moser according to the definitions above. I called the cops and I wasn’t in any physical danger.
So, for all those who feel its a mitzvah to kill a moser, come and get me.
The Wolf
* Yes, it was a Jew.
Yeeesh… I didn’t mean for this thread to turn into this.
I greatly appreciate your thoughts, everyone. It’s just something I deal with from time to time. Like most people I have my good days and my bad days… and I have things that set me off and turn good days to bad days (and vice versa).
How about returning the conversation back to its original topic?
The Wolf
a rule in life people out there is “if your depressed and you want to screem, screem at yourself first
An interesting thought…
The Wolf
The kallah’s middle name was _______. I mean come on! Would you want to walk around for eternity with a name like that?
Perhaps she’s not embarrassed of her name. My daughter doesn’t hide hers, even though it’s not common at all.
The Wolf
Confusedyid,
I don’t know you or your son, so I can’t give you any specific advice. I will, however, give out some generic advice which I’ve always found to be helpful.
Many people want to get their son into the “best yeshiva.” That, in and of itself, is not a bad thing. Going to the “best yeshiva” may well bring your son (and perhaps, by extension, the rest of the family) certain benefits and advantages.
However, instead of looking for simply the “best yeshiva,” find the best yeshiva *for your son*. Your son is not like anyone else’s son. He has his own strengths and weaknesses. If you put in a yeshiva just because it sounds good but it’s a poor fit for his personality and learning abilities, then you will lose far more than you gain.
If you’re happy with your son’s elementary school, why don’t you speak with your son and his teachers/principals and ask them for recommendations?
The Wolf
There are 2 types of depression. One that
Yeah, well… like I said, I’m not qualified to talk about anything in a thread about self-esteem… so forget I said anything.
The Wolf
wolf – how do u do that?
Do what?
The Wolf
IOW, “shut up and don’t ask stupid questions.” 🙂
The Wolf (who is now shutting up)
odd person
No… that’s abbreviated “Wolf.”
The Wolf
But if that’s the case, then why use “Baruch Atah…” as opposed to “Ata M’kor HaBrachos…” (or something similar)?
The Wolf
Where did that come from?
He’s saying (I believe) that depression is a physical/mental ailment and not a spiritual one.
The Wolf (who’s really not qualified to discuss anything in this thread at all)
If I may, I would just like to make the point that I did all that chesed asked. I asked a rav the shaila he asked, I conceded the point and will follow the psak given.
The Wolf
Fine, but now…….over and out.
Sometimes I wonder if anyone reads my posts.
FWIW, I do.
The Wolf
At the risk of asking a silly question, why not just contact your LOR if you have questions about Ricola (or any other brand)?
The Wolf
I’ve heard that it means “Original Poster.” 🙂
The Wolf
Not true. My daughter has one of the other three names (and no, I’m not revealing which).
And please… no posts about being a horrible parent for “burdening” her with such a name. 🙂 She has done fine with it and, to my knowledge, has never been teased about it once.
The Wolf
You have no idea how much I hate these labels and the threads about them. Perhaps that’s why I refuse to label myself.
Gave my (unasked for) two cents. (Yes, I know that that’s one of the shiva d’varim b’golem…)
Carry on.
The Wolf
With the exception of the occasional Tirzah and rarer yet Noa, their names have disappeared.
Not true. My daughter has one of the other three names (and no, I’m not revealing which).
I also, FTR, have a cousin named Noa.
The Wolf
Is shopping for bargains on Black Friday “chukas haGoy?” 🙂
The Wolf
(Before everyone gets bent out of shape — it’s a joke.)
Since mdd alredy showed that someone who throws his nails on the floor is a rasha why are you boasting about it?
You might want to go back and read both the OP and my post again. Do that, comprehend both posts, and then decide if you want to really want to call me wicked on this account.
The Wolf
Wolf: You’re a great guy.
Thank you. But apparently there are those here who disagree with you.
The Wolf