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@DaMoshe, by all means show me one time when R Schechter differed from other rabbonim and caused a large group of people to change course.
AAQ, I count you in the category of the listening to talmud chochom only if it fits your agenda, enough said.
@Kuvult, in the early 2000 I worked for one of the 3 Library systems NYC and the yeshivas were making a big deal about unfettered library use, when I went to reregister my kids for the new year and assistant principal was going thru the forms and he asked me what about library use I took out my work ID and said I go there daily and spend hours there, he laughed and said get out of my office.
That being said I can tell firsthand the library system a bastion of the far far left but I think everyone knew that, but cutting back on Sunday hours = being antisemitic is a huge stretch.
@Damoshe, No one besides the YU crowd looks to R Hershel Schecter for guidance, and even that is suspect because the YU crowd tends to do whatever they want regardless of what a rav says, I really doubt if more than 5 people would have had a change of heart if Schechter would have said not to go whereas 1000s did not go because of Rav Feldman said not to go.
How did we morph from Chasidish OOT to MO dying to mixed seating?
in the Lita or anywhere in Europe they did not have mix affairs by anyone who held themself to be frum and wanted to be buried in a Jewish cemetery. The norm of 50/60/70 years ago is not the norm of today, back then you had rebbish invitations asking people to dress tzenusdik and rampant chillul shabbos.
While i have a huge respect of the YI movement and what they did to preserve yiddishkiet back then the fact the MO movement began to wither away from the 90s onwards, 3/4 of YIs can barely scape together a minyan and a number of the dying YI were hijacked by Chabad otherwise then would have long since folded.@Amercianyishivish, Send your CV to the Prime Minister’s office and offer your services.
@AAQ, nothing new here, you always keep daas torah in contempt
@Zeff, firstly welcome to the CR and congratulations on your first post, to place a geder for our children in 100% normal, its not knocking the other guy it’s our chumra, for example I hold by Cholev Yisroel, do I knock the other person who hold cholev akum? no I just won’t take a coffee in his house, likewise if he is makpid on yoshov and I’m not same holds true.
To compare a rally with female singers [ that happens to be 100% lo khalacha] to a trade show is absurd, you obviously never attended a trade show.@Takeh, the Mo communities are slowly dying out, average age in a Young Israel is 75 and membership is plummeting, the kids are either going black hat or not frum and FYI we are in golus in EY Oct 7 just proved it.
@Damoshe the MO shul in Linden was barely able to make a minyan, now you have a kosher grocery, bagel shop and mikva things that never existed there beforeIs Caroline Glick related to Chanaya Weissman?
@shlomo2, Really???? do you know something the rest of the don’t know? do you have any proof?
@OP, considering that 3/4 of your posts are pure troll I don’t know when your serious and when your trolling
In Yerusalem no music is played at weddings for the past 150 years, yet life goes on.
PS on a side note, I don’t know if the music being performed these days qualifies as Yiddisher music.This is the only time that I agree with Takeh, we have not had Navim for 2000 years, anyone who claims they get messages from g-d should be involuntary committed to the local pyc ward.
@AAQ, you were very open in your contempt for people who follow their daas torah especially during covid, I have zero problem with someone who is consistent in his/her belief even if it opposite then mine. Where I have an issue is after the amount of ridicule that you heaped on people who followed daas torah to turn around and say they must do x [in this case go to a rally] because daas torah says so is the ultimate in hypocrisy and hubris.
@AAQ, your contempt of daas torah is well know so what cares what your “thoughtful” take on this is.
There have been many factors in antisemitism. Conspicuous consumption fans jealousy. When rulers and aristocrats became indebted to Jews they borrowed from, libels freed them from their obligations. When priests couldn’t explain to their followers why Jews were successful, trumped up accusations followed with pogroms, when goyim murdered people, they could blame the Jews to hide their guilt, when armies ran low on money and provisions, dispossess the Jews to fund wars and enrich soldiers. The list of excuses is really enormous. Underlying much of it is our successful orientation to life (from the Torah), our success in almost any and all socioeconomic environments, our communal orientation, value of knowledge, adherence to ancient traditions, and our innovative perspectives. Yet, the Japanese and Chinese, are also very successful, and don’t face our obstacles. Is it because they were never chosen to receive the Torah, and have a special relationship to the Creator? Or perhaps they were never in such close proximity to enormous competing religious offshoots, as we have?
@AAQ “I respectfully produce arguments that would work according to your shita. I also added arguments from sevorah. As I generally follow beis Hille, I put your position first and mine second”
what happened to this???????????????????????????????
@AAQ I don’t produce arguments, I have opinions and beliefs and they don’t change by the hour.
Thats enough proof not to waste your time going unless your a bored soul.
@AAQ, “First, see the announcement from the collective daas Torah: they say it is beneficial. ”
Every time you will use these words I will copy and paste the words where you openly mocked those who followed Dass Torah, you can’t mock it one hour, hold by it the next and mock it again an hour later.@Jackk, the diference between me and you is that I will readily admit that the Republican Party had its share of Anti Semites such as Pat Buchanan, you can never admit the Democrats have a rich history of jew hate from Cordell Hull and FDR, to Joe Kennedy to Zbigniew Brzezinski and Jimmy Carter to Obama to AOC and the squad.
@Jackk. “Trump is a bigger anti Semite and rasha” how very juvenile.
@Rocky, I have a great idea, since the biggest financial backer of Hamas is Qatar and you cant differentiate what country the oil is coming from, my suggestion to you is that you live off the grind and travel with a horse and buggy.
@OP, VW, BMW, Boesch, Allianz are just a few of the more recognizable German brand names, can you list anything produced in Gaza?
@Jackk, Carter wrote the book calling Israel an Apartheid state and now we are sowing what he reaped, Jimmy always had an issue with Israel and was very open about it, Obama come in a close second as to his dislike of Israel, Trump rarely has an original thought on anything besides Donald Trump and when it came to Israel he let Jared and David Friedman call the shots not a bunch of Arabist in the DOS.
PS I am supporting Nikki Hailey in 2024 and would tell that to him to his faceDid we really go to the moon? is Whoopie Goldberg Jewish?
@AAQ, “But if you want to be meikel and follow your own daas, you can do that also.”
So I guess your always meikel because you constantly deride people who ask daas torah.@Sam Klein, please get your facts right, Obama has zero yeshmali blood, he is a mix of bnai chom and bnai yafas
@Jackk, Carter loves Israel??????????????? please let me know what your smoking
@OP, here is a direct quote from you on a different thread you started “As Yidden, we know that no effort is more critical or more effective than tefillah, davening to Hashem for Siyata diShmaya”
That is your answer.@ss77, the only thing R Srotzkin care about is feathering his own nest, @Shintzel bigot said it best.
@Jackk everyone know that Obama is a close second to Jimmy Carter for the love of Israel
Communism tried making everyone equal, it does not work.
Interesting to see how many unemployed / underemployed people there are.
Is Caroline B Glick yet another example “Halomed me kol odom”
Who cares besides you?
there are no navim, so this whole thread is irrelevant.
Stay off the booze
Bringing up a 10 year old dormant Thread???????????????????????????????
Wow, 52 responses to this, that is a double NK membership, why waste time on 26 deranged BT’s?
@Damoshe, I once saw Yankel Feferkorn throw eggs at NK demonstrators on 13 Ave, the fact that both Yankels did something does not prove a point,
@ Square Root: “If you can’t decide, on one hand get a half corned beef, and on the other get a half pastrami,”
Source: Alan Dershowitz when he owned a deli@Fanatic, you don’t need a prove a motive to indict, all you need to prove with the preponderance of evidence that the crime was committed and the suspect committed the crime,
Motive is just a tool investigators use to narrow down suspects, please take some CJ classes.
PS the word is INDICT.@UJM or a third option called a troll
“As to your questions – of course, people can and should ask for advice. And Torah scholars should be first on the list.”
Good so the discussion is over and we can close this thread or do keep on beating a dead horsecan you say troll?
@OP because it would give you one topic to discuss
@Square Root, because you keep being him up as if he is some authority, there 10s of 1000s of authors self published, so why give him any credence? because of halomed me kol adam? if thats the case the town drunk has an opinion too
@OP, Do yourself a favor and log off and speak to a holocaust survivor, they are a few still around, after you speak to them come back and till me if we have problems.