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  • in reply to: Lets stop driving #1881932
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    Stop counting traffic deaths. You will see that next week it will be down to zero.

    in reply to: Biden is No Moderate #1881782
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    Ben Levi,

    What made America your country ?
    The Irish and Italian’s immigrants that were here in 1930 before the influx of European Jewish immigration also felt that this was there country. Was it proper for them to try to keep America a white american catholic county?
    Does the freedom of religion and worship enshrined in the constitution teach us that America was founded on allowing all peoples to come here and make a contribution to the melting pot?

    What democratic policies are you referring to that decimated factories and towns?
    Many republican policies have destroyed towns and factories.

    in reply to: Jeffrey Epstein – part 2 #1880108
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    Syag,

    Explain the difference.

    in reply to: Jeffrey Epstein – part 2 #1880008
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    Syag,

    Your 2 sentences are the exact reason that Trump has destroyed the presidency and the GOP.
    “I can’t stand listening to him speak and don’t read his tweets. Unlike the anti trumpers who thrive on his every move, I just worry about the policies.”

    To ignore anything that the president does (or did) or says or tweets because of the “policies” is like saying ” I will vote for Jefferey Dahmer for President since I only care about his policies.” .
    I am glad you agree that he is a mushchas.
    I plan to use this idiotic defense for the next 8 years when Biden is President and Fox news and the GOP lie about him being senile or anything else .

    I am intrigued that you can reach across the internet and know whether I am frothing at the mouth or not. You must have some super duper extrasensory capabilities.
    Can you tell me if I have Covid or not?

    in reply to: Biden Coming for the Suburbs #1879333
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    1 –
    He will never mention even one of the things you mentioned to get re-elected because they are all his failures.

    Tax cuts are worthless when you can’t pay for them and the economy did not get better for the majority of Americans.
    Obama added 8.588 trillion to the national debt in 8 years.
    Trump added 5 trillion to the national debt in his first 3 years . He promised to eliminate it.
    The are millions of Americans currently unemployed . Trump’s economy is terrible.
    The 130,000 people dead from Covid can’t vote for him. But their family members who are suffering will remember his pathetic response.

    He is running for President of the USA , Most Americans couldn’t care about where the American embassy is or Rubashkin. If you said the name Rubashkin to 99% of Americans , they wouldn’t know who you are talking about. His also pardoned many traitors that he deemed worthy of pardoning. He uses his pardoning power to curry favor with people he want to keep loyal.
    His great Peace Plan for the Mid- East is nowhere in sight and DOA. Wouldn’t you like there to be real peace in the Mid-East?

    Russia payed the Taliban to kill Americans and Trump did nothing. That is not a good Commander In Chief.

    Please feel free to vote for him but there are many Americans who believe that we can do much better with a Biden presidency There are even many Republicans who will never vote for Trump. They have a Lincoln Project group and show what a disaster his presidency has been for America.
    Racial Strife , division and Police brutality – including the protests – are a direct result of his presidency.
    He is a great divider.

    in reply to: Jeffrey Epstein – part 2 #1879015
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    Syag Lchochma
    Take a break. I am not defending anybody. If a person committed the crime , I could not care less if he is a D or a R , let them rot in jail. Clinton can go to jail too if he committed a crime.

    There a numerous pictures on the web of your beloved leader, the womanizer , Donald J Trump, together with Epstein. He is even mentioned in the legal documents by the accusers. If anyone has to be afraid , it is him.

    Hence , for IHAtecommunism to create a post and thread with salacious accusations that there are going to be democrats that will be toast is ludicrous. It is just another typical day of TYW trolling.

    Epstein had friends from all over the world and political spectrum whom he invited to his parties with underage girls.

    in reply to: Jeffrey Epstein – part 2 #1878977
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    Do you have inside information that nobody else in the world has ?
    Can you name 1 big dem that will be toast to add a little credibility to your claim? ? I bet your source is a bunch of hot air , rumours and conspiracy theories – more formally known as Fox news.

    in reply to: Biden Coming for the Suburbs #1878812
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    As I said many times before , the Trumpists have nothing to show for 4 years except hate and scare tactics.

    Trump has destroyed the party and is going to lose so big(ly) in November that the Republicans will be eating crow for years to come.

    in reply to: Atlanta #1874419
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    The DA that indicted him has more testimony and evidence than anybody posting here will ever have.
    They have to try the case in a court and prove it to a judge and jury. They decided that what he did was wrong and they have enough evidence.

    “Hopefully, the entire Atlanta police department will go on strike”. If they don’t want to be police officers , they can all resign or even better they can be fired. They will lose all of their benefits and seniority. There would be plenty of applicants for the open positions.
    These police will never find another job. They are not 4 year college educated graduates. They are dedicated public servants .

    If only Quay can so logically say that an interaction between a person drunkenly sleeping in their car and the police should not end with police executing him, then the USA has a real problem with GOP/Trump supported and approved police brutality.

    Maybe there should be more riots against police brutality since the GOP/Trump so aggressively protested Colin Kapernicks peaceful protest. Maybe then you will wake up that many police are loose cannons and can be internally disciplined for years but never forced off the force.

    in reply to: Help Trump speak about coronavirus. #1874199
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    Health,

    Obama left the cupboards bare .
    3 years later Trump still had empty cupboards. Why don’t the Trump supporters blame that on Trump?
    If corona happened on Jan 22, 2016 , the blame of Obama would make sense. 3 years later it is ridiculous.

    Joseph,
    Fauci said that the numbers are not important. They are projections based on models. They are not nevuah and they are worthless in gauging whether Trump was the successful shaliach of Hashem or a successful shaliach of Hashem’s maloch hamoves.

    in reply to: Help Trump speak about coronavirus. #1874136
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    Joseph and huju,

    I will quote Dr Fauci on March 29th on CNNSOTU in which his gives you numbers but tells you to not project with numbers on a moving target.

    TAPPER: Well, Dr. Birx said yesterday, as you know, that she doesn’t think any city will be spared from this virus.

    How many cases do you think the U.S. will reach? A million cases, 10 million cases? Or are these — we — or do we not even have any idea?

    FAUCI: You know, Jake, the honest — to be honest with you, <b>we don’t really have any firm idea.</b>

    There are things called models. And when someone creates a model, they put in various assumptions. And the model is only as good and as accurate as your assumptions. <b> And whenever the modelers come in, they give a worst-case scenario and a best-case scenario.</b>

    Generally, the reality is somewhere in the middle. I have never seen a model of the diseases that I have dealt where the worst-case scenario actually came out. <b>They always overshoot.</b>

    So, when you use numbers like a million, a million-and-a-half, two million, that almost certainly is off the chart. Now, it’s not impossible, but very, very unlikely.

    So, it’s difficult to present.

    I mean, looking at what we’re seeing now, <b> I would say between 100,000 and 200,000 cases. But I don’t want to be held to that, because it’s — excuse me — deaths. I mean, we’re going to have millions of cases.

    But I — I just don’t think that we really need to make a projection, when it’s such a moving target, that you can so easily be wrong and mislead people. </b>

    What we do know, Jake, is that we got a serious problem in New York, we have a serious problem in New Orleans, and we’re going to be developing serious problems in other areas.

    So, although people like to model it, let’s just look at the data of what we have, and not worry about these worst-case and best-case scenarios.
    This was CNNSOTU

    After viewing the Lincoln Project’s ad against Trump , Trump has already failed miserably in protecting the health and lives of the US Citizens. No need to wait until the number reaches 200,000 for democrats or non-trump republicans to use this against him.
    From PPA shortages and minimizing the impact of the pandemic to encouraging states to open too early, he has failed .
    On the other hand, Trump will gloat over any temporary good news even if he had nothing to do with it.
    If the number is 199,999 deaths, Trump will declare victory.

    in reply to: The Real Problem #1873024
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    How would frum jews feel if it was legal to be fired for leaving early for shabbos ? Wearing a sheitl and only tzniusdike clothing? wearing a yamulke ?

    This is no different in the eyes of the law.

    in reply to: Cancel Culture #1871192
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    Shnitzel,

    1) Blacks have always had a disgust for the confederate flag and its leaders. On the other side, many southern whites have always idolized the confederate flag and their leaders for what they represent.
    2-5) Do we really want to fight the civil war again ?
    6-7) That is a praiseworthy position.

    The ones who wants the monuments taken down compare them to having monuments for leaders of the Axis powers. They lost and the losers do not get the right to decide on how to remember them. How do you respond?

    in reply to: Cancel Culture #1871099
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    The republican party and Trump are openly and unabashed racists. White Supremacy is their party platform.

    Full stop.

    They would love that all minorities should be slaves again. The minorities are sub-humans compared to the white master race.
    The South and confederacy lost the civil war but the ideal that the whites are the supreme race has never disappeared.
    They honor the confederate generals and leaders because they pine for the time when they had slaves and whites were supreme.
    By taking down the statues and renaming the military locations, the USA of 2020 is repudiating their entire belief system.

    It is surprising that Jews would disagree with this repudiation.

    in reply to: DeBlasio is Brilliant #1870716
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    mw13 ,

    For sure, he is playing 4D chess. He only acts in a way that makes you suspect him of being a double agent for the conservatives because you think it makes the liberals look bad. This allows him to implement all the liberal policies However, the truth is he doesn’t care if he is hated. He truly believes in the liberal policies.

    He delivered universal pre-K and expanded paid sick leave, reduced stop-and-frisk policing, and oversaw the city’s $15 minimum wage hike.
    He repealed a requirement that mohel’s inform parents of the risks of metzitzah b’peh and he is closing Riker’s island.
    The clincher that he is playing chess is that he has a strained and combative relationship with NYPD during the looting and protests against police brutality.

    in reply to: Askonim, Are you Happy? #1869987
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    Good askonim deal with the politicians that they are dealt. That is their only agenda.
    Whoever is in power needs to be shmeared and flattered like every Aisov.
    What did the askonim do in Russia and Poland ? Askonim have always dealt with the anti-semitic leaders.

    in reply to: Defunding Police #1869664
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    N0mesorah,

    Welcome to the Fake news Fox universe. The same ones constantly screaming about bias in the big bad MSM.
    If they didn’t have anything to lie or exaggerate about, all their followers would realize that they are a bunch of selfish conniving 1% millionaires who are completely uncaring about anybody except themselves.

    I wish a hearty mazel tov to Christian Sean Hannity,who is a strong believer in the sanctity of marriage, on his recent publicly confirmed divorce from the mother of his children. HYPOCRITE.

    These guys are looked up to ! Yich !

    in reply to: Defunding Police #1869561
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    Charlie Hall,

    It is even funnier when you realize that if a trumpster would hear the 4 words “due to tax cuts” before the sentence “we have to defund the police”, they would go raving mad in applause and be all for it.
    Similar to the GOP’s constant refrain that we need to defund social security, healthcare, and education due to the US being broke.

    in reply to: A Vote for Dems is a vote for ANTIFA #1867120
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    bk613,

    There is no connection between the small groups of people who are antifa and the democratic party.

    Please provide examples of antifa openly advocating for violence, wreaking havoc, defacing and destroying public and private property, and assaulting private citizens who they feel disagree with them.

    A person committing acts of violence does not automatically make them an antifa member.
    Twitter just shutdown a fake antifa account that was really tied to white nationalist.

    Trump created a false punching bag so that he looks tough to his supporters. Similarly, Trump saying that he will send in the military when nobody asked him is political theater. Walking to a church to take a picture with the bible is beyond outrageous.

    in reply to: A Vote for Dems is a vote for ANTIFA #1866542
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    Doing My Best,

    Coronavirus isn’t trumps fault.
    <i> did not say it is </i>
    Neither is George Floyd.
    Impeachment was a joke.
    <i> was very real </i>
    Mainly just trump is.
    Asylum seekers now wait in Mexico.
    <i> does not solve the immigration issue </i>
    Boris Johnson. And besides, Who cares.
    <i> as an American, we do care about the standing of the US in the world.</i>
    I don’t believe that to be true.
    <i> is mar o lago still making money? </i>
    He definitely has gone over the edge since the beginning of coronavirus but the other choice is the crazy left which isn’t much better.
    Democrats view about religion? They think it is a backwards way of thinking.
    <i> false</i>
    View of America? An American flag was burned in DC last night and nobody said boo.
    <i> I guess the SC is anti American because they said that you are allowed to burn the flag and nobody can say boo. Would you want a test before enlisting to determine if you voted for Trump or Biden</i>

    in reply to: A Vote for Dems is a vote for ANTIFA #1866536
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    bk613,

    Chas Veshalom that I would call you idiots or morons. As a frum Jew , I am also socially conservative.
    But I reject the adoration of republicans and the demonization of democrats.

    The answer is because there is no such organization and therefore the title doesn’t even make sense.
    As Mark Bray , who wrote a book on antifa, explained. “To explain a little: it’s like calling bird-watching an organization. Yes, there are bird-watching organizations as there are Antifa organizations but neither bird-watching nor antifa is an organization”.

    “Tolerate” ? What do you mean ?
    They should not be allowed to do anything illegal. If they do, they should be thrown out of society like all other criminals.

    Does trump, and by default his supporters and the GOP, tolerate white supremacists/Nazis ?

    Can I start a trolling post that says a vote for trump is a vote for white supremacists/Nazis (those are organizations )? Would you accept that ?

    in reply to: A Vote for Dems is a vote for ANTIFA #1866532
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    1 posts a post like this and I am the troll ???
    LOL.
    This post is a continuation of the tens of other troll posts on YWN by people who believe that it is their obligation to raise the republican party to be equal in status to Hashem’s party. (Where do they teach this ?)
    It is completely illogical and untruthful.
    It has no basis in fact.
    (The democratic party also isn’t Hashem’s party by the way.)
    I am no longer surprised that after trump showed YOU what the republican party is all about and you still don’t get it. You can close your eyes to all of trump’s faults but nobody else does.

    He didn’t cause the virus but he FAILED to take action early enough.
    He minimized the threat and refused to listen to officials warning him of the pandemic. He gets an F.

    Biden will be a great President and I can’t wait for his moral and ethical leadership. He is well respected all over the world. His family actually served in the military. He believes in listening to his advisers and is concerned about what science says.

    I know your response – blah blah blah -“sleepy” .blah blah blah “harassment”.blah blah blah “ukraine”.blah blah blah “hunter”. A bunch of embarrassingly crazy conspiracies.

    in reply to: A Vote for Dems is a vote for ANTIFA #1866433
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    Maybe someone can explain the Title of this post.
    Just because 1 says something doesn’t make it true or credible.
    It is very disappointing that TYW lets people start posts like this.

    I assume that 1 can’t even define who antifa is.
    How many members do they have?
    Where do people sign up to join them ?
    Who are their leaders?

    in reply to: A Vote for Dems is a vote for ANTIFA #1866414
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    The trump followers have zero reason to show to vote for him.
    30 million Americans out of work.
    Economy – broke.
    Stock Market – tanked.
    Over 100,000 Americans dead from COVID19.
    Police brutality going strong.
    Racism in full force.
    American cities are burning with protests and riots.
    Trump impeached.
    Trump and America – an embarrassment in the world.
    Abandoned allies in Mideast.
    Relations with China are terrible Still in a tariff war
    Wall with mexico ? A total joke.
    Only friends trump has are ruthless dictators.
    Filled Government with grifters and added thousands to the swamp.
    Trump aging and slowing down. Mental capacity diminished .

    Only tactic is to lie about the democrats view on religion and america and fascism.
    It will not work.

    in reply to: A Vote for Dems is a vote for ANTIFA #1866415
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    The trump followers have zero reason to show to vote for him.
    30 million Americans out of work.
    Economy – broke.
    Stock Market – tanked.
    Over 100,000 Americans dead from COVID19.
    Police brutality going strong.
    Racism in full force.
    American cities are burning with protests and riots.
    Trump impeached.
    Trump and America – an embarrassment in the world.
    Abandoned allies in Mideast.
    Relations with China are terrible Still in a tariff war
    Wall with mexico ? A total joke.
    Only friends trump has are ruthless dictators.
    Filled Government with grifters and added thousands to the swamp.
    Trump aging and slowing down. Mental capacity diminished .

    Only tactic is to lie about the democrats view on religion and america and fascism.
    It will not work.

    in reply to: Adding a 2nd Adar #1842178
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    No substance to this rumour at all.

    in reply to: If you vote democrat #1834035
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    Monsey Yid,
    I know that midrash and it is shrecklech scary.
    But, there were other reasons for the mabul that are not treated with the same mindset.
    For example – Gezel. Even a פחות משוה פרוטה . Is a “white collar criminal” allowed to be elected ?
    And זרע לבטלה . And ע״ז.
    The US is full with these other aveiros also. We are living in galus. May Moshiach come speedily.

    PS. לכאורה the pshat in the medrash is that not only was the toevah not prohibited but they went so fat as to also codify into law to allow marriage.
    To just disallow the marriage part , but to never even try to disallow the actual toevah, is not enough. Maybe Jews should only live in countries with Sharia law.

    in reply to: If you vote democrat #1833572
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    Regarding Toeva, what do you want the republicans to do ?
    The prohibition is not having a certificate of marriage . The prohibition is the act itself. And the prohibition for men is different than women.
    Should we throw them all into jail or kill them? If you want that, please move to Saudi Arabia.

    in reply to: If you vote democrat #1833570
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    This posting is your monthly Public service announcement brought to you by the anti abortion troll posters who believe that Jews can only vote for candidates that oppose legal abortion.
    It has also been brought to you by the republican party to force all Jews to vote republicans or else.
    I can’t wait for next months trolling.

    The Supreme court of the US has not changed it’s opinion since 1973.
    It is still legal for Torah Jews in America who have a Orthodox Rabbinically approved valid heter to get an abortion in the US

    in reply to: Mitt Romney is now persona non grata #1832558
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    CA,
    When did the Dems turn their backs on their Democratic beliefs?
    Hillary is not running.
    I think I belong right here in the coffee room discussing these issues with people who think that everything is so simple. 🙂 R means right and D means wrong.
    Which Tanna or Amora said that ? I will answer – none.
    Both parties are driven by people that הֱווּ זְהִירִין בָּרָשׁוּת, שֶׁאֵין מְקָרְבִין לוֹ לָאָדָם אֶלָּא לְצֹרֶךְ עַצְמָן. נִרְאִין כְּאוֹהֲבִין בִּשְׁעַת הֲנָאָתָן, וְאֵין עוֹמְדִין לוֹ לָאָדָם בִּשְׁעַת דָּחְקוֹ:

    in reply to: The top two dems are either a sodomite, or a communist #1832395
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    k,
    Why wouldn’t Trump vote for a gay man? I know why you wouldn’t , but why wouldn’t he?

    in reply to: The top two dems are either a sodomite, or a communist #1831967
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    If you believe that Trump has some miniscule form of morality I have a bridge to sell you.
    In his “locker room” speech he was talking about a married lady.

    in reply to: Why was trump impeached??? #1831750
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    MDG and Catch,

    Neither of you know what anybody thinks about Trump or what the motivation for impeachment was. Members of congress are not babies although many act like ones.

    The constitution was written for human beings. Not angels.

    According to you we can just throw out every impeachment because they hated Richard Nixon (oh boy did they!) and they hated Bill Clinton. (Super Oh Boy did they!!).
    The myth of “They hated him” and therefore impeached him is meaningless.

    in reply to: Why was trump impeached??? #1831748
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    catch,

    You are not a Trump supporter but did not support impeachment ? Do you mean removal ?
    Do you believe Trump should be allowed to abuse power and obstruct justice to go after his political enemies without oversite because he is abhorrent etc …. ?
    Are you making an observation that lawyers who prosecute pedophiles and murderers find the accused abhorrent ? Should they recuse themselves because of it?

    in reply to: The top two dems are either a sodomite, or a communist #1831755
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    Chash,

    @luna
    Yes I believe that a sodomite is worlds worse than a man who has relations with someone who’s not his wife. Whats your standard for measure?

    But you believe they are both terrible ? (If you believe his infidelity was only once and doesn’t continue , I have a bridge to sell you. )

    It is not a contest to elect the least despicable for president. We shouldn’t elect either of them.

    It is time for truth. Your מראה מקומות are unclear. Please expand.

    in reply to: Why was trump impeached??? #1831587
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    MDG,

    They did it because the constitution assigns them the role of oversight of the executive branch.
    They didn’t shirk their roles just because the republicans are in Trumps cult and afraid of crossing him. Trump’s actions – abuse of power and obstruction – clearly demanded oversight and being impeached.

    in reply to: The top two dems are either a sodomite, or a communist #1831588
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    How do you know he can’t be defeated ? Are you a prophet or do you listen to faux news?

    in reply to: The top two dems are either a sodomite, or a communist #1831589
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    Bernie is not a communist.
    For republicans and fox news anyone who want to help Americans is called a communist.
    When wall street , car companies, and farmers come begging for hand outs that is not called communism. Hypocrisy.

    in reply to: He who lives in glass houses shouldn’t throw roger stone #1831518
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    Obama did not use the IRS . Another silly fox news conspiracy theory.
    As John Kelly said today people who rely on fox news “are not informed citizens.”

    in reply to: Why was trump impeached??? #1831469
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    Catch yourself.,
    Nobody made Bill Clinton lie under oath and nobody forced Trump to bribe another county to go after his political rival.
    Everybody knows that whatever political/legal/constitutional grounds were put forth to not remove him were only the excuse for not removing him. The Republicans in the House and the Senate had made up from day 1 that they would not listen to any evidence or constitutional grounds to remove him.
    The excuses kept getting more bizarre. It started from he did not do it , to yes he definitely did it and it is really an impeachable offense , but he learnt his lesson.

    I have said before on YWN that Trump succeeded in making Biden unelectable by the Democrats. He reminds them of Hillary and her investigations too much . Though all of the investigations went nowhere, it still was a dark spot on her. Trump has put a dark spot on Biden. He and Guliani can say from today until they get blue in their faces that they have proof of illegal activity but it is all a lie.
    It has already been investigated and it is false. It is nothing but Russian propaganda.

    Russia meddled in our elections in 2016 and had absolutely no repercussions. Why shouldn’t they continue ?. Trump loves them and has asked publicly for their help.

    in reply to: Why was trump impeached??? #1831408
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    We are not done either.

    The American congress will impeach him again if he does another impeachable act.

    in reply to: Why was trump impeached??? #1831406
    jackk
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    OP sees the results of Trump stealing this election and can still ask why was he impeached. The better question is why was he not removed.

    in reply to: shreds of decency #1830297
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    Trump has not delivered .
    Trump WALL is a long long way away. And Mexico is not paying for it. Total failure.
    Repeal of Obamacare – fail.
    Total Muslim ban – fail.
    Eliminate Federal debt in 8 years . Fail, Debt is up a Trillion dollars.
    Make no cuts to medicare – fail. Budget has major cuts to medicare.
    Drain the swamp. -fail. WH is full of lobbyists and former lobbyists.
    Everybody is getting a tax cut, especially the middle class FAIL. Only wealthiest got a tax cut and corporations which did not filter down to workers.

    The only thing he has been successful in is his “mannerisms” .(Nice euphemism for not having a shred of being a decent human.) Also successful in dividing and disenfranchising over half the country.

    A man who stole from his own Million dollar charity organization is a real low-life.

    in reply to: Mitt Romney is now persona non grata #1830175
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    Trump is a RINO.
    Romney is a life long real Republican. Romney was the parties candidate a few years ago. That the Trump supporters have turned their back on him show that they are the RINO’s. They all belong to the Trump CULT party.
    That they can turn against a Jewish American Purple heart recipient (Vindman) and a celebrated Vietnam war hero (McCain) in favor of a draft dodging lying impeached president makes me wonder if they are patriotic Americans.

    in reply to: Mitt Romney is now persona non grata #1829906
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    KlugerYid,

    Romney directly answered your question about not needing an actual crime for impeachment and quoted the founders.

    If a political opponent was a spy ? Boruch Hashem the US of America has government agencies that are well funded and tasked to protect the USA.
    (Please stop talking about money. America has enough money when it needs to go to war and provide security.)
    Why in the world would you send your personal lawyer?

    I think you can understand the difference between the constitution allowing an impeachment for a president violating his powers without breaking a law and demanding an investigation into American Citizens that did not break the law.
    The bottom line is what Romney said
    “The president asked a foreign government to investigate his political rival. The president withheld vital military funds from that government to press it to do so. The president delayed funds for an American ally at war with Russian invaders. The president’s purpose was personal and political. Accordingly, the president is guilty of an appalling abuse of public trust.”

    in reply to: Mitt Romney is now persona non grata #1829736
    jackk
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    This a transcript of what Mitt Romney said.
    “The House managers presented evidence supporting their case, and the White House counsel disputed that case. In addition, the president’s team presented three defenses, first that there could be no impeachment without a statutory crime, second that the Bidens’ conduct justified the president’s actions, and third, that the judgment of the president’s actions should be left to the voters. Let me first address those three defenses.
    The historic meaning of the words “high crimes and misdemeanors,” the writings of the founders and my own reasoned judgment convince me that a president can indeed commit acts against the public trust that are so egregious that while they’re not statutory crimes, they would demand removal from office. To maintain that the lack of a codified and comprehensive list of all the outrageous acts that a president might conceivably commit renders Congress powerless to remove such a president defies reason.

    The president’s counsel also notes that Vice President Biden appeared to have a conflict of interest when he undertook an effort to remove the Ukrainian prosecutor general. If he knew of the exorbitant compensation his son was receiving from a company actually under investigation, the vice president should have recused himself. While ignoring a conflict of interest is not a crime, it is surely very wrong. With regards to Hunter Biden, taking excessive advantage of his father’s name is unsavory, but also not a crime. Given that in neither the case of the father nor the son was any evidence presented by the president’s counsel that a crime had been committed, the president’s insistence that they be investigated by the Ukrainians is hard to explain other than as a political pursuit. There’s no question in my mind that were their names not Biden, the president would never have done what he did.

    The defense argues that the Senate should leave the impeachment decision to the voters. While that logic is appealing to our democratic instincts, it is inconsistent with the Constitution’s requirement that the Senate, not the voters, try the president.
    Hamilton explained that the founders’ decision to invest senators with this obligation rather than leave it to the voters was intended to minimize, to the extent possible, the partisan sentiments of the public at large. So the verdict is ours to render under our Constitution. The people will judge us for how well and faithfully we fulfill our duty. The grave question the Constitution tasked senators to answer is whether the president committed an act so extreme and egregious that it rises to the level of a high crime and misdemeanor. Yes, he did.

    The president asked a foreign government to investigate his political rival. The president withheld vital military funds from that government to press it to do so. The president delayed funds for an American ally at war with Russian invaders. The president’s purpose was personal and political. Accordingly, the president is guilty of an appalling abuse of public trust.”

    in reply to: Mitt Romney is now persona non grata #1829466
    jackk
    Participant

    Why is being a mormon more ע״ז than presbyterians or any of the other believers in ישו ?
    Anyone who does not keep the 7 mitzvos because Moshe Rabbenuc ommanded them to is not termed chaside umos haolam.

    in reply to: Mitt Romney is now persona non grata #1829365
    jackk
    Participant

    He is not up for an election until 2025.
    He has plenty of time to not worry about Trump.

    in reply to: Why does Biden get a pass Or ”the donkey in the room ” #1824910
    jackk
    Participant

    CA,

    You call spending 8 years questioning whether Obama was even an American (and some R’s still believe this) and declaring him a closet Muslim as not hating him so much ?
    Read some posts whenever the name Obama gets mentioned even in passing and you will hear real sinah to him , his wife and his kids.
    Obama is hated by R’s just as much as D’s Trump.
    The hypocrisy is that when Trump does the exact same thing as Obama did , Trump supporters love it.

    in reply to: Why does Biden get a pass Or ”the donkey in the room ” #1824709
    jackk
    Participant

    Ky,

    You have a point. The House of Representatives rejected it.
    That is the reason for a FULL trial in the senate.
    Let us all hear from all the witnesses on both sides and let them determine which reasoning is more compelling.
    Was it Trump really caring about corruption or as many have testified that it was a tactic to knock off Biden.

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