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Perhaps this is what Chanukah is supposed to be? Why does celebrating this way equal “Yevanim”?
I don’t see many Jews following the basic Mitzvah of lighting one candle each night for a half hour. We praise (actually now it’s assumed) those who add a candle every night & buy beautiful Menorahs to enhance the Mitzvah. So why should the non-lighting celebrations of Chanukah be any different?

My Ruv spoke about this on Shabbos. He said the reason for all these tsaros are men using smartphones (even with a filter) & women’s lack of tsnius.
He also warned about “Chanukah parties” where often men & women end up socializing in close quarters which goes against Halacha.

This was ( it seems what Agudah often does) they played the usual “neither here nor there”
Obviously many of the Frum families in Baltimore are connected to Ner Israel yet even after R’ Feldman’s retraction some schools attended or setup a system for easy notification that they were taking their child out of school to attend the rally.
The lack of clarity can be frustrating but at the same time successful groups tend to go different ways & sometimes the best route is to cater to all by catering to no one.

I don’t waste much time on trolls.
1. MO is not dying in Baltimore because they share space with the Yeshiva people who are not trying to get rid of them.
& No they (as I’ve seen in other communities) are not pushing the Rabbanim to put out a weekly proclamation to move the community more to the right.
2. In short typing, women of the Kollel was OBVIOUSLY referring to the wives. It was also in a SEPARATE paragraph detaching it from my comment about Chumros. A little reading comprehension training can go a long way.

Ujm,
In Baltimore R” Schwab certainly did. That was the norm & if you know the history of his Shul you’d know that was not something he made an issue about. In that era it was the norm. You can even look at Ner Israel events of the past & they are mixed as well.

This reminded me of a beautiful article I read from a Rabbi describing the first Shul I mentioned seeing it from the outside. Halevi this is what all America looks like. What’s the worst that’ll happen? Moshiach would come? Part of the reason no one is “dying” is because in Baltimore the different factions aren’t at war with each other. In fact they help & encourage each other.
“It is definitely a large shul, not a shteibel. Its specialness struck me almost immediately, from the first davening Friday night. There were too many different kinds of Jews there, and they all seem to get along. I wasn’t used to that.”
“Looking around at the congregants, I saw the largest sub-group, which was people of all ages sporting black hats. But this was no black-hat shul, because there were also a sizeable number of kipot srugot, as well as black leather yarmulkes. We shouldn’t forget the folks in Chassidic garb either. How did they all get along? It was like walking into a time-warp.”
“It is an open question, of course, whether the rabbis made the congregants or the congregants had the depth to choose the proper rabbis. (I would have a hard time not assigning at least some of the credit to the presence in Baltimore of Ner Israel, known for its openness, reasonableness, tolerance and embrace of normalcy.) Whatever the case may be, it was hugely refreshing to be in a shul in which the different components of American Orthodoxy continued davening under one roof, hopefully gaining from the mix of perspectives, and certainly creating an example of unity and tolerance that would be well followed by the rest of us.”

Da Moshe,
I’ll tell you a great way to define OOT (no it’s not perfect).
How many Jews that work M-F in Manhattan live in Monsey, KJ, Lakewood, Teaneck, Passaic, Union City, Westchester or Five Towns? Quite a few.
How many Jews who live in Baltimore do the same? Zero
Baltimore is not part of the NY region (OOT) because it’s impossible to commute daily (without killing yourself).

Baltimore Maven,
It is not a matter of time. There’s a reason Chasidish Kollel members come & go.
Chasidim are anchored in NY & while for me or you Baltimore is fine for a Chasid it’s quite “Out of town”
Baltimore is not Monsey, KJ or Lakewood where it’s easy to be connected to NYC. How long & exhausting is it to drive from Baltimore to KJ in the summer on a Friday afternoon? Most Chasidim are more family oriented & living in Baltimore means you & especially your children will miss those Vach Nachts, Vorts, & other non-major events & attending the big events is exhausting & requires kids missing school & (if they work) parents missing work.
There are many Baltimore Jews that would be fine relocating to a Memphis or Phoenix, but many would not because they would be missing out on a lot
To many Chasidim Baltimore looks like a Memphis or Phoenix. For proper upbringing of their kids, the way women dress at the Baltimore kosher supermarket is very different than in KJ or Boro Park. They’re constantly exposed to English & are a major minority. I grew up in the Baltimore Yeshiva community of old & we felt very different (& not always in a good way) than the majority of Jews in Baltimore & even within the Orthodox community.
The video guy Shloime Z. is a great example. How does he know how to speak & interact in a positive manner with outsiders? Because as he has explained he grew up in a very small Chasidish community where they had no choice but to interact constantly with Non-Chasidim. If you’re ok with your children growing up like that then great but many are not & will insist on staying close to the NY Chasidish communities.

I find this interesting compared to Trump’s Day of Prayer. A Rabbi from the Agudah sat through Xtian prayer after Xtian prayer (Our Lord JC, in the name of JC, etc.) as well as other religions that are possibly Avodah Zara as well as a Xtian Choir of men & women. This was approved by Rabbi S. Kamenetsky & there was no “last minute” declaration against it. This rally seems even more benign then that so why the last minute reversal?

Those that are old enough remember 1987 when the big rally for Soviet Jewry ended with Yeshiva bochurim & Bais Yaakov Maidlach mixed dancing.
That’s when the Rabbanim co-opted the term “Never Again”

Finland was terrified of the Soviets trying to take them over as Russia has always wanted.
They allied with the Nazis to save themselves from Russia. This led to an interesting situation where on Finnish army bases you had a building serving as Nazi offices & the building next door was a Shul for the Jewish soldiers. Obviously the Nazis understood they couldn’t do anything to the Jewish soldiers.

Why would anyone move to a place where snow & freezing temps is a daily occurrence much of the year?

A Modern Orthodox, Yeshivish & Big Rosh Yeshiva died & went to heaven. Hashem said to the Modern Orthodox, “You were a good Jew go to room 12 but be very quiet when you pass room 8.”
Hashem said to the Yeshivish Jew, “You learned a lot of Torah. Go to room 16 but be very quiet when you pass room 8.”
Hashem said to the Rosh Yeshiva, “You taught so much Torah. Go to room 11 but be very quiet when you pass room 8.”
The Rosh Yeshiva said, “I understand having different rooms but why do we need to be quiet when we pass room 8?”
Hashem answered, “Because the Chasidim are in room 8 & they think they are the only ones here.”

There are more important issue with kids these days than turning them off over a hair style.

A Frenchman, a German & a Jew were lost in the desert.
The Frenchman said, “I’m so thirsty I must have a glass of wine.”
The German said, “I’m so thirsty I must have a beer.”
The Jews said, “I’m so thirsty I must have diabetes.”

Sam Klein,
Can you or anyone else explain why when adding the numbers the day numbers are kept together (28 & 24) but when adding the year you separate the numbers (19+39 instead of 1939, 20+22 instead of 2022)? & why split where you did? Perhaps it should be 1+9+3+9?
When you’re allowed to play fast & loose with numbers you can come up with anything.

Always Ask,
In the community I’m from this is standard procedure. At Tehillim Asifas the president of the Vaad Harabbonim always calls up Modern Orthodox, Yeshivish, Chasidish & Sephardic Rabbonim to lead the Tehillim. The crowd is also diverse from the entire spectrum of the community.
One Rabbi said about an Asifa, he was so moved seeing “Bare headed” men there Davening with great Kavanah alongside Kipot Serugot, black hats & men in Chasidic garb.
It’s sad it takes a crisis to understand what true Achdus looks like.

Pine Lake Park,
I understand I didn’t write that clearly.
She had no children from this marriage. The issue is if the wedding was declared invalid when it was any future Children with a new husband would be Mamzerim.
The difficulty is if you say the Converso marriage was valid to avoid any chance of Mamzerim you are sentencing this 20 year old woman with no children (who gave up so much to live as a Jew) to a lifelong status of an Agunah.

What an amazing way to talk up a Sukkah open to the public. I’m sure children would absolutely choose going to a community Sukkah instead of six flags. Mi Kaamcha Yisroel!

Yechiell,
It was a little joke (not to downplay the issue) but the wording of “Bring your guns to Shul…” to me sounded like something a pro baseball team would use to attract fans & sounded even funnier (to me) if Shuls also ran “promo” davenings.
It’s kinda Mel Brooks humor (like the Yiddish speaking Indian Chief in Blazing Saddles). You either appreciate it or you don’t.

I’ll always remember at my Yeshiva in Israel of about 30 guys an American Kollel guy would put up a sign “Please come for any Yom Tov meal (including the 2nd day)”
Even though he didn’t keep the 2nd day because he permanently lived in Israel he still made sure the American Buchrim had a Y”T atmosphere on the 2nd day.

When I was young & naive (I believe Reb Moshe wanted no Kosher kidushin with the Non-Frum to avoid issues with Gittim & Mamzerim) my friend & I would go to a Reform Shul to be aydim. Usually it was the grandparents who insisted on an Orthodox ceremony. The Reform Rabbi (who was from the older generation & actually knew what he was doing) the bride & groom & me & my friend would meet in the Rabbis office where the groom said Harei At & put the ring on her finger & my friend & i would sign the Kesubah. This was the 80’s & we made a quick $10 or $20 for a few minutes work. We left & the Rabbi would perform a Reform wedding in the sanctuary.

A French Catholic Priest, a German Lutheran Minister & a Rabbi were lost in the desert.
The Priest said, “I’m so thirsty I must have wine.”
The Minister said, “I’m so thirsty I must have a beer.”
The Rabbi said, “I’m so thirsty I must have Diabetes.”

A priest asks a Rabbi, “How come you don’t eat ham?”
The Rabbi answers, “It’s against my religion. How come you don’t date girls?”
The priest says, “It’s against my religion.”
& the Rabbi says, “You should try it. It’s better than ham.”

The biggest problem is the kids enjoy being in the “Army”
Studies confirm that boys who grew up with color war are more likely to join the Tzioni Army (Hashem Yirachem). A Frum boy in the clutches of the Evil Atheist Tzionim has very little chance of staying Frum. We need to end color war to keep our children from going down the path of Evil, Atheism, & Zionism.