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The OP has repeatedly said that this thread is not about what we should or shouldn’t do, it’s about Media hypocrisy.
It is also a Media lie that the Chareidim are the only ones who break the rules. I have seen countless non-religious people without masks and nobody seems to care (masks are mandatory in Israel).
In fact I had a guy who asked me why Chareidim hold weddings, and he wasn’t even wearing a mask! Apparently only Chareidim need to conform...and as Donald took a sip of cov fefe, and Joe mumbled through his two masks, @ubiquitin and @Health walked off into the sunset telling the tales of the Great Steal That Was(n’t) and The Lying Liers Who Lied.
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”Dems saw what happened after they enacted a too-small stimulus in 2009. Voters blamed them (correctly) for compromising with Republicans and creating a really sluggish recovery. As a result the Democrats lost 6 seats in the Senate and 63 seats in the House of Representatives. They aren’t going to make that mistake again.”
So ‘Voters blamed them (correctly) for compromising with Republicans’ and then voted Republican?
Those voters aren’t very clever.By the way @jackk, I hope you believe what Biden is doing is ‘purely for show’, and he doesn’t think the Houthis are not a terror group.
‘It’s worse to do absolutely zero for 4 years than to do something that is purely for show 8 days before you are kicked out of office.’
Why? Who cares about the motive? Most good things politicians do are for show and we (rightfully) give them credit anyway.
Downplaying Trump’s accomplishments because it’s ‘purely for show’, is simply wrong.”Where was the anger against Trump during the past 4 years on this issue?”
Because it’s worse to reverse a good policy than to not implement it at all, so that’s not a valid comparison.”Trump also had the US Embassy to Israel be in Jerusalem, but Biden would have done that too. (Biden had been trying for 35 years.)”
@charliehall, I’ll admit, my curiosity is has been nagging me for days. Can you please tell me how you came to that conclusion?
Thank you in advance.Radicalism is growing in both sides of the political spectrum and unfortunately both types are infused with anti-semitism. That’s why you should seriously consider coming to EY.
”And I am in touch with reality. Biden won the election and it wasn’t close. Many Trumpies here continue to refuse to accept that and the majority of Republicans in the House of Representatives refused as well. Even as a violent mob was storming the Capitol to overturn the election, most House Republicans voted to do the mob’s agenda. So yes, for the most part, Democrat=good and Republican=bad.”
So Republicans are mostly bad because of a mob that they – including Trump himself – condemned.
But Democrats are mostly good even though they justified ‘mostly peaceful’ mobs that killed people and caused billions of dollars in damage.
That’s what being in touch with reality looks like.”Trump also had the US Embassy to Israel be in Jerusalem, but Biden would have done that too. (Biden had been trying for 35 years.)”
Biden called it ‘short-sighted and frivolous’, because apparently Israel can’t choose it’s own capital without meeting ‘conditions’.
By the way, wasn’t he VP like, four years ago? How hard was he trying to accomplish his 35 year old dream?”A peace plan written on a piece of paper and actually working on bringing it about are 2 totally different things.”
You can’t force peace. Trump understood that.”Watch under the Biden administration they will come back to the negotiating table. (Magic)”
If they do, it’s not called magic. It’s called money”We should stop magnifying the power that the squad have because the republicans now have 2 confirmed anti semitic meshuggana trump supporters of their own in congress.”
Mitch Mcconnell called MTG’s theories a ‘cancer’ to the GOP (and we all agree), can we have Chuck Schumer say that about Ilhan Omar please?@charliehall
”So I actually looked at the data for fraction of nursing home residents who died from COVID. New York is #18. Massachusetts is #1 and nobody is calling Charlie Baker a murderer. This is all partisan hackery. This isn’t a perfect as reporting rates vary but it shows that Cuomo does not deserve the abuse.”1. Didn’t Cuomo order China Virus infected patients back into nursing homes? Doesn’t that make him directly responsible?
2. Do those numbers include the ‘4300 to 7000’ not counted?
3. Why are you defending this man?
”I understand the situation as well as anybody else.”
Seeing the confusion of some other posters, i’m inclined to agree.”Did the families of terrorists stop getting paid? No.
Did they stop teach young children to hate Jews and spread lies about Israel to the West among other things? No.
Do you trust them with your tax dollars? No.”
If Palestinians support terrorism, You don’t support them, period. Nobody thought they would stop.”Racism and Slavery were really great to the white slave owners in the 1800’s in the US. They were very happy with the status quo. Does that make it a situation that can be conveniently ignored?”
Are you calling Israeli’s slave owners? I don’t see any comparison.”The fact is Israel is not happy with the status quo. Due to the palestinians, they need to have compulsory military service of all youth between 18 and 21.”
Due to the Palestinians? Does Israel have no other enemies? Are you serious?”There is always fear of another intifada. There is always fear from the underground tunnels of another terrorist attack. They need to go into arab villages and risk their lives to destroy terrorists houses. They are criticized constantly in the in the UN and international community because of the situation.”
All this is likely to get worse if they have a state, only it will be harder for the Israelis to monitor and defend. Look at Gaza for reference.”Biden was VP way before they were in office and he has a complete understanding of the situation and how to deal with it.”
But he loves Palestinians too much to let facts get in the way.”That’s my problem. The status-quo stinks and I don’t think Israel is fine with it. The status-quo means that the West Bank and Gaza are in a state of limbo, not part of Israel but not part of another state either. And I don’t think it’s unreasonable for the Palestinians to keep whining as long as they are stuck like that. Israel should have a plan as to what to do as soon as we can get a decent Palestinian non-terrorist leadership. But they don’t have a plan.”
1. The Palestinians are not whining because of the limo, they’re whining for ‘From the Jordan to the sea Palestine will be free’
2.yes status-quo kinda stinks, but Israel can live with it, as it has for years, and most alternatives are worse.
3. what’s the solution? I personally think Mordechai Kedar’s solution is the most logical (Google it) but don’t hold your breath.
@Ben Levi
”Actually the way I understood that comment was simply that many of the most basic tenents of Liberalism run in direct contradiction to the Torah, as such one can not claim to be “mekabel ol mitzvos” accept the Yoke of Mitzvos yet beleive in an ideology that completley contradicts it.”
I agree that ‘many of the most basic tenents of Liberalism run in direct contradiction to the Torah’,
but can we, according to Halacha, reject a ger because of their ideology?Guys, we now have a president who is pro-abortions, loves Palestinians, destroys jobs, signs EOs like they’re autographs and his main concern is… climate change.
Why are we still talking about Donald Trump??@jackk
”trump stopping US and UN aid to the palestinians without having a plan to resolve the issues between Israel and the p.a. was never a long term solution.”
Stopping aid was not a ‘solution’, it was a correction to the idea that lining PA officials pockets with cash will help the Palestinians. These guys pay families of terrorists, teach young children to hate Jews and spread lies about Israel to the West among other things. Do you trust them with your tax dollars?”It was a one sided course of action that removed America as an objective third party in negotiations.”
What negotiations? The Palestinians refuse to negotiate!
@Jackk, Your comments make it obvious that you have very little understanding of the situation. No wonder you support Biden.@Yserbius123
While the ‘endgame’ is huge political discussion, Israel is mostly fine with the status-quo. The problem is the Palestinians who can’t stop whining and pull themselves together. Remember, the Palestinians are actually about seven distinct tribes, some of which hate each other and would not get along if they had a state.”Trump is still the President of the US.Fact-Check: False”
Please tell that to the Democrats who are trying to impeach him.Trump can lie over and over that the election was stolen but is not responsible for the results of such a statement.Fact-Check: False
Really? Can you give me one similar example of someone responsible for indirect outcomes of his lies? (Bernie can’t help you out here).Trump gets to take credit for anything good that happens but is not to blame for anything bad that happens.Fact-Check: False
Totally agree. Um, why’d you bring this up?”Trump did not lead the insurrection but encouraged it.”
Fact-check: False
”led an insurrection against the US government, such as Trump did on 1/6/2021”
Fact-check: False
“Democrat jews, you are responsible for any terrorist attack that comes as a result of this.”
While I don’t think that’s true (Biden was not elected by the votes of Democrat jews), it’s hard to say this wasn’t expected. It’s no secret that Israel was dreading a Biden administration.Wow. Dual-reality at it’s best.
Welcome to the Divided States of America“It will take a long time for the country to heal from the riots at the capitol on Jan 6 2021.”
Besides for the family of Brian Sicknick, who did not deserve to die and every normal American – including Republicans – sees it as a great tragedy, the country needs to heal? seriously? from what? from a few lunatic barbarians storming the Capital? If you need therapy after seeing that, I truly feel bad for you.
Now what about thousands of Americans whose lives were ruined by BLM riots? How long will it take for them to be healed?“trump and his band of thieves getting punished.”
If a violent mob goes crazy on your side of the isle, you should tell them to go home as Trump did,
not denounce violence and then encourage ‘peaceful protests’ like Biden. If Biden doesn’t need to be punished (and I don’t think he does) neither does TrumpI am very suspicious that this thread is a troll. The exaggeration and double-standard is amazing.
‘one cannot be a ger and subscribe to liberalism.’
That is a terrible statement.
Since when do accept geirim based on their political views?
I am surprised YWN posted this comment.‘Funny how the Trump Cult claims to want to oppose Iran yet they oppose the reversal of the pro-Iran policies of Trump, which basically left Iraq and Syria open to Iranian hegemony.’
Before you call Trump pro-Iran, explain why John Ratcliffe of the DNI stated that Iran was interfering in the election IN BEHALF OF JOE BIDEN.
As a side note, it’s hard to take you seriously if you need to include ‘stupid’ and ‘Trump cult’ in every statement.‘Correct. Under the law he could not let a single person without a valid visa disembark.’
1. So why did he turn down the Gedolim without giving a reason?
2. And how can Biden allow Mexicans to become citizens without visas?
I am no expert in this topic, so please clarify.‘This shows the stupidity of the Trump cult; as I said in another comment the cancellation of the Keystone XL pipeline will reduce US oil imports.’
You also said that it was a bad decision:Ami
@huju
LOL!!“Now they are going to blow up Israel, the whole Abraham accords thing was a hoax in order to get the law missiles”
Is this a jokes thread?
Here’s another one:
The Iran deal was good for Israel and the Middle East!!!!!
Get it? Hilarious!
Keep ’em coming!!For the average Israeli:
Good ol’ Uncle Donald.
Expressed like a peasant, accomplished like a boss
“Please explain to me how wearing a mask while going to shul, the supermarket, school, or when talking with a friend is such a major hindrance on your life.”
Just one question, if the government passed a law that makes mask-wearing mandatory…forever (even after COVID viruses will exist, why not stop them all?).
Would you support such a law? If not, why? Masks aren’t disturbing are they?@yserbius123
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HOW CAN ANYBODY DEMAND THAT PEOPLE SHOULD WEAR A MASK TO PROTECT OTHERS?So excuse me if I take your words with some extreme skepticism.
How about demanding that nobody drives in case they crash into you?
Or maybe tell your neighbors not to turn on the stove because they might burn your house?
Yes, COVID is deadlier, but at what point do we say ‘this is deadly enough to interfere with peoples lives’?
Is it just a numbers game?@Yserbius123
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
In Israel masks have been mandatory for half a year, and although in the beginning everyone wore it religiously, people are using them less and less.
They have become a case of תפסתה מרובה לא תפסתה were most Israelis think ‘if I don’t wear a mask over my nose, why can’t I visit my grandparents?’
The only one’s ‘getting used to it’ are those who are scared of dying of COVID (if they don’t have foggy glasses of course)“this country is not a democracy, it is a Republic.”
You are technically correct, however there is a separation of powers and pardoning interferes with Judicial.My point is; isn’t it amazing how those who claim that Trump doesn’t care about the law criticize him for using it?
Presidential pardons and the Electoral College should not exist in any democracy, least of all in the US.
But Trump didn’t invent them, the Founding Fathers did, so to quote @Charlie Hall in ‘Mandtory Vaccines’:You don’t like that? You are living in the wrong country.
‘After the Kushner pardon there can be no question that anyone who still supports Trump opposes traditional moral values.’
President Clinton pardoned his half-brother Roger.
Does supporting him oppose “traditional moral values”?@Charlie Hall
‘the final version of USMCA is mainly Pelosi, not Trump.’
Source? Wikipedia doesn’t seem to know what you’re talking about (besides for her raising objections)
‘None of the countries that recently normalized relations with Israel have ever been at war with Israel.’
That’s not the point.
Trump has turned Israel from ‘the Middle East Problem’ into ‘the Solution to Radical Islam’.
Most Arab countries (Including SA) are terrified of Iran and now seek Israels help
The Middle East will never forgive Obama for helping the ayatollahs“And, let’s be honest over here, is there anything I can say that you won’t immediately accuse me of being a bully or worse?”
Probably not, forcing someone to do something TO HIMSELF to make you feel good is a form of bulling.
Guys, come to Israel for a week and you’ll throw up the next time you see a mask.
Masks didn’t stop COVID from spreading, people from losing jobs, bochurim from roaming the streets or the country from going into lockdown after lockdown.
Mask are a horrible way of controlling the virus (and sorry Rabbi Shafran it’s been half a year and I still haven’t gotten used to them, in fact it only gets worse).
How can anybody demand that people should wear a mask to protect others?
If you’r scared that COVID will kill you, STAY AT HOME and let everyone else live a normal life.