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I think the expression was פולניה as in פה לן קה
No, it was not. The country is and always was called פולין, never פולניה.
But putting somebody to death without a witness or proper evidence is ok.
What is this a reference to? Abortion? That’s outright murder, so what witness or evidence would you need? Nobody is accusing the baby of anything. Neither the USA nor any state gives any criminal punishment without due process. So what do you mean?
1. Of course whoever doesn’t toe the party line won’t get help to win in the first place or re-election. Anyone frum running in a Dem primary must try to win without that help. If you are referring to Chaim Deutsch, he is running in a primary which already has a big fight between the communist-sympathizing incumbent and at least one challenger from her left! Deutsch’s hope is that they will concentrate on fighting each other, split the leftist vote between them, and he will be able to sneak in past them.
If he is successful, he will then have to decide what to do in order to get reelected in two years. He can either make nice with the Dems by toeing their line on most things while deviating on those issues that are most important to us, or he can just defy them and keep fighting them off every two years, using the power of an incumbent to the fullest.
2. On abortion, there is NOBODY in politics who proposes banning abortion even when the mother’s life is in danger. EVERYONE AGREES that even if abortion is completely banned, necessity would remain a defense, which means killing a baby in order to save its mother would remain legal just as it is after the baby is born.
And despite what self-serving leftists like Charliehall will tell you, that is the halachic position, at least according to the Rambam and R Moshe Feinstein. An unborn child IS a human being and killing it is murder in every sense of the word. Not “almost” murder, but actual murder. It has EXACTLY THE SAME DIN as killing a nochri.
I know this is unpopular among those whose yiddishkeit is subordinate to their liberal values, but it is the truth. Killing a nochri and aborting an unborn baby have the exact same din: A ben noach who does it is executed, whlie a yisroel who does it is not. That doesn’t mean he isn’t a murderer, just that HKBH doesn’t want him executed for it.
When the baby endangers the mother’s life it is a rodef, and she is entitled to defend herself by killing it, just as she could kill a burglar who breaks into her home and she fears will kill her. That is the Torah view and that is the most extreme right-wing Right-to-Life view, so frum Jews should be wholeheartedly on that side.
The only real difference between the two sides is that they start personhood at conception and we do at 40 days. But that is irrelevant in almost all cases, because abortions are almost never performed before 40 days. Usually at 40 days the woman doesn’t know she’s pregnant, or has only recently found out and hasn’t yet decided what to do.
RE, you have it backwards. The rich land owners were the Cossacks’ targets, not their allies! The Jews were targeted because we worked for the rich landowners. Remember that Poland before the 20th century Poland had a solid 700-year history of being friendly to the Jews, with very little if any antisemitism. We called it פה לין, “here we can spend the night”. All that changed somewhere around 1900, I don’t really understand why. The Poles turned from friends of the Jews to vicious enemies.
The report — the real report, not that of Crump’s hired hands — says he died of a cardiopulmonary arrest. In plain ordinary English that’s what we call a heart attack. Doctors may use different technical terms for different kinds of attack, but in ordinary English it’s immaterial; the heart stops, it’s a heart attack.
And it says there was no asphyxiation. So he was not strangled or choked.
Working for Crump automatically means every word the person says is a lie.
<strong>edited. I don’t know you in person but I still find your temper to be a bit frightening at times. Please calm your speech.</strong>
Most competent people know this was murder.
No, they really don’t.
even the medical examiners knew it was murder.
No, they didn’t say that at all. And how could they? A medical examiner can say what the cause of death was, but he is not competent to give an expert opnion on whether it was murder. He’s not an expert on the law.
“He died of a heart attack,”
The autopsy that came out after the police stopped lying said it was asphyxiation.
The medical examiner’s autopsy said it was NOT asphyxiation.
Was the independent medical examiner lying?
What “independent medical examiner”? There is only one medical examiner. If you mean Ben Crump’s hired quack, then yes, anyone working for Crump is NOT independent, and must be presumed to be lying whenever their lips are moving.
If Floyd was white and wearing a yarmulke and tzitzis, he would never have needed to be arrested in the first place, and if he was mistakenly arrested he would not have fought the police. He would not have been hopped up on fentanyl and meth. And if he had a serious heart condition he would have known not to fight anyone, even a mugger.
“which would have happened no matter how he was restrained.”
What is your proof of this?
The proof is the autopsy, which said the cause of death was a heart attack brought on by his medical condition, his drug use, and the fact that he was being restrained. There was no asphyxiation, so the method of restraint was irrelevant.
Fentanyl is a sedative, people high on fentanyl are lethargic and sluggish.
And the latest craze is to use it together with meth, as he had been doing. But the medical examiner said he was actively on fentanyl, and had recently used meth. So the meth may or may not have been that day, but the fentanyl was definitely . (Speculation: When he saw the police coming for him he may have swallowed a large amount of fentanyl so as not to be caught with it, and the overdose may be what killed him.)
Within the United States, not without consent of Congress.
That is not true. Congress has no role in the matter. The President has the full authority to call out both the National Guard and the Army, over a state governor’s protests, if there is domestic violence and the local authorities either can’t or refuse to put it down.
do you really think the other 3 officers would’ve been charged without cop cars getting burned out?
Once the case was taken over by Keith X Ellison, the antisemitic, radical, cop-killer-supporting Attorney General, it was inevitable.
Ellison doesn’t even want a conviction. He wants an acquittal that will spark another round of riots, preferably right before the election. The purpose of all of this, just like the Little Saint Trayvon case, is to whip up black people and white radicals motivate them to show up at the polls and support Democrats. It’s no coincidence that this is an election year.
Charliehall, Crump’s hired hacks are not independent. Anyone working for Crump must be presumed to be lying.
He was unlikely to have been found guilty of 3rd degree murder anyway, so the radical antisemitic cop-killer-supporting AG probably decided to take a chance: if he can get a conviction despite not having a case he might as well make it a good one, and if he can’t then it’s no worse to lose on a 2nd degree charge than on a 3rd degree one.
And no, most sane people do NOT believe it was murder at all. The evidence indicates that the knee on the neck did not contribute to Floyd’s death, which would have happened no matter how he was restrained. He died of a heart attack, brought on in part by his poor health, in part by being high on a large dose of fentanyl, and in part by the stress of being restrained by the police — which they were 100% correct to do.
The worst Chauvin is guilty of is failing to take sufficient care of a person he knew to be in medical distress. Maybe he should have checked on him more frequently. But he’d already called an ambulance so even if he’d checked on him it’s not clear what he could have done that would have made any difference.
domestically, the NG is under the control of their respective Governors.
Only until the President wants it for something. He can call it up at any time and send it anywhere he likes.
There is a Lubavitch Web site reporting that cops were told not to issue summons to those attending minyan or mikva (before vasikin). But how will the cops know who is attending minyan or mikva?
mik5, what has vasikin got to do with this? The reference is OBVIOUSLY to those using the mikveh at night, which we all know who that refers to.
Again, the cops’ conversation shows that they were considering him to be in excited delirium, for which they are supposed to keep him restrained so he doesn’t flail around and hurt himself. And the knee hold was a CONSCIOUS hold. He did not pass out because of the knee hold It was purely to keep him from moving. His shortness of breath had nothing to do with the knee hold, because he was complaining of it (truly or falsely) before it was applied. He died of a heart attack brought on by his health condition and his drug use, perhaps exacerbated by the stress of being arrested and restrained. The exact same thing would have happened had he been restrained in some other fashion.
And he was not some good upstanding citizen entitled to a presumption of innocence and good faith even outside a courtroom. He was someone with form. An armed robber. So he had lost his chezkas kashrus.
Oh, and Keith X Ellison, the antisemite, former Farrakhan acolyte, cop-shooting-supporter who has taken over the prosecution of the Minneapolis cop, OPENLY SUPPORTS antifa. So does his worthless son, who is on the Minneapolis city council. And thy are the face of the Democratic Party. Ellison senior was only a few votes short of being the DNC chair, and would have been had the Jews not risen up in protest.
They say now that the white natinalist disguised themselves as antifa.
Who is this “they”? Nobody but Soros’s paid liars, which I am now convinced include this “jackk” and probably “n0m”, though he may be a volunteer. White nationalists practically don’t exist. They number a few hundred in the whole country, maybe 1000. Whereas antifa are open and everywhere, number at least 10,000, and anyone who pretends not to know who they are is not honest. They are the same people as the Black Bloc who wrecked Seattle, Toronto, and many other cities. They are the same people who have been running rampant in Portland with the open connivance and approval of the mayor, who has ordered the police not to interfere with their criminal sprees while arresting anyone who confronts them.
And “Someone from Monsey”, I have news for you, they are not a new thing. There were antifa groups in the 1930s, and they were the exact same thugs as their successors today. They were the “anti-fascists” who attacked and beat up the fascists in the Battle of Cable Street. The fascists may have got what was coming to them, but they were in the right and their antifa attackers were in the wrong — just as in Charlottesville.
Also anyone who accuses Trump of racism, antisemitism, or of pandering to racists and antisemites, let alone to “white nationalists”, is a deliberate knowing liar, because Trump has never done any such thing These are the same people who pretend that the Charlottesville riot was neo-nazis attacking innocent people, rather than what happened, which was vicious antifa and other anarchist and communist thugs attacking people who had come for a peaceful and lawful rally for a legitimate cause, some of whom happened to also be racists, “white nationalists”, and other undesirable and violent people.
And some of whom anticipated that this might happen, and came ready to defend themselves, which they did with gusto, not only against their attackers but also against those “good people” who came to peacefully support and provide cover for the attackers. We can do those people the courtesy of calling them “good”, even though they were assembled illegally and giving tactical and moral support to vicious thugs, but not if they deny that there were plenty of genuinely good people on the other side, who came to oppose removing the statutes and had nothing to do with the thugs.
Please calm down the name calling and personal attacks.
Anyone who thinks there’s’ something wrong with the President going about the capital, getting a view of the destruction, and (gasp!) holding a Bible, has something very seriously wrong with them. In Jackk’s case the explanation is obvious: Soros Yimach Shemo is paying him.
Floyd was not high. He was drunk, so read the article.
Floyd was high on fentanyl and possibly also meth, which he had recently used.
I cannot find a source on the internet that he was involved in armed robbery; I don’t see how that bears any relevance on the subject at hand, either way.
If you haven’t found it you haven’t looked. He did five years for armed robbery, and had multiple other convictions for armed robbery and for drug offenses. And this is relevant because it goes to what kind of person he was and therefore how much sympathy we should have for him and how upset we should be that he’s dead.
There is no such as thing as mace or taser not working. It ALWAYS work on ANYONE.
Excuse me? You have no idea at all what you’re talking about. If you can say this then you’re just not a serious person.
The term rioter could refer to someone who is burning a car, smashing a window etc. Such a person could hardly be called a threat.
That is just wrong. Anyone rioting is BY DEFINITION presumed to be a threat to everyone’s safety. They do not have to literally be a threat to anyone’s actual life; the threat of serious bodily harm is enough to justify deadly force. And while in many states a mere threat to property is not enough to justify deadly force, that changes if it’s a threat to premises, e.g. by arson or looting. I’m not sure if there’s even one state where one may not use deadly force to prevent arson.
dont just plow through a whole crowd of them
This is unfortunately not the current law, but in my opinion it ought to be completely legal for anyone who is going about his legitimate business and is being deliberately obstructed to ignore the obstruction and plow through or over it, and if the obstructors are injured or killed that is their problem. I would have absolutely no moral compunctions about doing so, whether we’re talking about union pickets, people blocking highways, or lying in front of bulldozers or trains, or anything else. Of course one should first attempt to get the police to clear the obstruction, but if they are unable or unwilling to do so then force becomes necessary and should be used.
akuperman, see the Insurrection Act:
The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it—
(1) so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection.
The current riots are definitely “domestic violence”, so if the state’s authorities “are unable, fail, or refuse” to protect people’s rights the President has the full authority to do so, using the National Guard, the Army, or any other forces he has at his command.
In addition, Antifa and “Black Lives Matter” are unlawful combinations and conspiracies, and their involvement can easily be argued to make the riots an insurrection. But we don’t need to go there because domestic violence is sufficient.
Those who claim that the President can’t send the national guard are wrong. The National Guard is, as its name implies, a NATIONAL FORCE, not a state force. Some states have their own state guards, which are separate. But the National Guard is absolutely under the President’s authority and he can order it wherever he likes, including overseas. (How do you think it is that National Guardsmen serve in Iraq and Afghanistan? Do you think the President asked the governors for permission?!)
So he can send in the National Guard just as easily as he can the Army. And the Insurrection Act gives him the full legal authority to do so, provided that the local authorities have demonstrated their inability or unwillingness to put down the riots. That is why he warned them first; they have a chance to do what needs to be done themselves, and if they don’t then he will be entitled to do it for them. The Insurrection Act overrides the Posse Comitatus Act, so there is no possibility of any legal challenge. And if a judge tries to interfere we may FINALLY see the President do what he should have done 3 years ago, and tell these judges who are ultra vires to shove their orders where they will do the most good. No judge can compel the president to do anything.
Finally, QBW lies through his lying evil teeth. That was not a peaceful protest, it was an illegal gathering and the minute they refused to go home they were all criminals. They’re lucky they only got rubber bullets. They deserved much more. And so do you, if you support them.
Floyd said he couldn’t breathe BEFORE he was restrained. Therefore the restraint could not have been the cause. We now know he had a serious heart condition, was extremely drunk, was on fentanyl, and possibly also meth. And that he died of a heart attack. The restraint may have been a factor in that, but ANY restraint would have had the same result. The fact that Chauvin chose this method, which is standard and approved by the Minneapolis Police Department, was not a factor. And the protocol for excited delirium, which the cops’ conversation shows they thought was happening, is that the patient must be restrained even when he is not struggling, because he can start again at any moment.
n0m, as you very well know the police DEPARTMENT was controlled by the criminal mayor (who ended up in prison) and betrayed its officers. The police themselves said they were innocent AND PROVED IT. You know this all, of course. Everyone knows it. You couldn’t miss it. The trial outcomes were so clear, the police had such a complete vindication, that the evil prosecutor eventually gave up and dropped all the remaining charges, because she saw that each trial was going to be another utter humiliation for her and for the city. If Soros yimach shemo is not paying you to lie like this then he is getting a bargain.
M1994, I want to suggest something for you to bear in mind that may be difficult. As you say, you have no letter from Hashem promising that you will eventually get married. I think you should consider, not in the front of your mind but just as a remote possibility in the back of your mind, that maybe, just maybe, Hashem has plans for you that don’t involve getting married.
YOU want to be a wife and mom, and for most women that is also what Hashem wants for them, but in some cases He doesn’t, and it is possible — not likely but still possible — that you may be one of the exceptions. Don’t expect that, don’t just give up on shiduchim and say “Fine, Hashem, I won’t get married”. Keep doing everything you’re doing and hope that He will help you, but bear in mind Abraham Lincoln’s wise words: “Let us not pray that G-d is on our side but that we are on His”.
IF and only IF it turns out that He doesn’t want you to get married, you should be prepared to accept it, not reluctantly as a sacrifice you give to His will, but joyfully as a gift that He is giving you, because He knows that in your case marriage would not be good for you.
Because of course you know that some people get married thinking this is what their lives are for, and it turns out to be a big mistake. People make themselves miserable by marrying the wrong person, or by marrying at al when they shouldn’t have. And some people are very happy being single.
So if that turns out to be your lot, be willing not just to endure it but to enjoy it and celebrate it and thank Hashem for it (while never losing hope that in the end His plans for you will include a good and happy marriage after all).
Just something for you to consider. Keep davening, keep doing mitzvos, and keep hoping, and very soon may you be Eim Habonim Smeicho.
There are obviously exceptional cases where divorce is recommended, and there are even tragic cases where it’s REQUIRED even if neither party wants it (e.g. when a kohen’s wife was forced into an aveira). Every case is different, but when speaking of the topic in general one is speaking of the normal case, and in the normal case divorce is not recommended; it must be a last resort.
But unfortunately while the Torah says it’s up to each spouse, and divorce is usually only possible if both consent, the reality is that secular law gives people (usually wives) the ability to leave their spouses without any penalty, and then the rabbonim say that since s/he’s not coming back anyway you should give/accept a get even if you don’t really have to, because what’s the point of refusing? And by that point they’re usually right, because even if s/he came back it probably would never again be a good marriage.
(The statistics are pretty clear in the secular world that it’s much more common for women to break up marriages than for men to do so; I don’t know of any similar statistics for the frum world, so I can only go on a tentative presumption that the same thing is true there too, but I don’t know.)June 2, 2020 12:25 pm at 12:25 pm in reply to: Chasidus bans “informers” from using its facilities #1866901
Skripa, the vast majority of those who don’t give their wives gittin are correct. Their wives are not entitled to gittin. Unless you’re one of those apikorsim who think that every wife is always entitled to a get whenever she wants one. That’s not how the Torah works. Even under NY law a person is not entitled to a divorce without cause; kol shekein under Torah law.
A woman (and since Rabbenu Gershom, also a man) who gets married is making a lifelong commitment from which, under normal circumstances, they can never be released without their partner’s free and willing consent. To break that they need special circumstances, and the accepted halocho is that a beis din may not order a man to give a get, or a woman to receive one, unless the case is one of those authorized in the gemoro. In all other cases, if someone wants a get they have to persuade their partner to agree, which means giving them whatever they’re demanding.June 2, 2020 11:36 am at 11:36 am in reply to: Chasidus bans “informers” from using its facilities #1866896
Kechol dinei hatorah is very obvious — the right of a property owner to forbid others to derive benefit from his property.
And that also answers the question of whether this has teeth. By making this proclamation, any mosser, whether they know about him or not, who uses their facilities in any way, is a rosho and Hashem will punish him. If he at least pretends to himself to be an observant Jew, he will refrain of his own accord from using their facilities, just as he refrains from eating pork.
Ubiq, you are correct that R Chaim did say that those who ignore the guidelines, relying solely on Divine protection, are rodfim, but that is in the context of the previous question which was about those who break quarantine. Everyone knows that when you conduct a poll the order of the questions matters, and previous questions set the context for later ones. Respondents’ answers to later questions are influenced by the previous ones. So having first been asked about those who knowingly break quarantine, R Chaim’s mind was still in that context.
Even without that, there is a huge difference between someone who has made his own decision that what he is doing is not endangering anyone, and someone who merely says “Hashem will protect me”. It’s obvious that the latter is acting with complete hefkerus, and can therefore justly be called a rodef, while the former simply has a different opinion on the risks involved, which in hindsight can be said to have been proven correct.
Coming late to this conversation, everyone who is accusing the cop of outright murder, “snuffing out a human life” is outright lying. FLOYD DID NOT DIE OF ASPHYXIATION. HE WAS NOT CHOKED TO DEATH. The knee on his neck was a STANDARD, APPROVED method of restraining him, and did not block his airway.
And he had to be restrained because he had resisted being put in the police car, and the cops suspected he was in excited delirium, for which the protocol is that he must be restrained until the medics can get there and inject him with sedatives.
The cops discussed what method of restraining him would be best, and one suggested changing position, but Chauvin figured there was no reason to do so, the position he had him in was good enough. Maybe that was a mistake, but there are no grounds for considering it malicious or a crime.
The charging documents show that there is very little chance of convicting him. He has been charged for political reasons only, in a vain attempt to appease the mob. And he has been robbed of HIS right to the presumption of innocence, now that he is the accused.
Finally, the riots we are seeing now are the best proof, absolute proof, of how much we owe to the cops. Without them EVERY DAY would be like this. We would live our whole lives as slaves to the criminals who would be free to do to us whatever they like without any fear of punishment. And so we owe the police a huge debt of gratitude, and that includes giving them a presumption of being right in any dispute they have with known criminals. Whenever they say something and the criminals say the opposite we should presume they are telling the truth unless we have clear proof otherwise. So their word that he resisted them should be enough for us.
Meanwhile n0Mesorah shows his true face again as a lying liar who lies for the sheer joy of lying (or possibly because he’s paid to lie by one of George Soros’s “charities”, as so many hundreds or thousands are).
This will become like Freddie Gray. People from all over the country will state that it was obvious the police were not fully at fault, while the police themselves make no such claim.
The police certainly did say so, AND PROVED IT. The police did absolutely nothing wrong in Freddie Gray’s arrest, and his death was entirely his own fault. A malicious prosecutor tried to frame them and fabricate a case against them, but couldn’t do it. And now only an idiot will take a job in that police department, knowing that at any moment he too could be victimized by his bosses.
What police violence? This is just showing us how much we need police, because they’re all that stands between us and the ravening mob. Without the police they will pick us off at their leisure.
Even with the executive order, businesses are required to accommodate anyone who claims to have a medical condition that makes wearing a mask inadvisable. The person does not have to tell them what that condition is, and they may not question it. (Just as if a customer claims their animal is a service animal, the only question the business is allowed to ask is what task this animal performs for you; they are NOT allowed to ask what is your disability that makes you require it, and they are NOT allowed to demand any kind of proof or documentation.)
n0m is a liar and a troll, and I have concluded that there is no point ever in engaging him, because no matter what you say he will just lie and lie and lie and lie again. His name appears to be true, he has no mesorah and doesn’t believe in any mesorah.May 31, 2020 5:46 pm at 5:46 pm in reply to: Chasidus bans “informers” from using its facilities #1866146
Common, as you could easily see, my comment was a reply to Joseph. How is your response relevant to that?
Ubiquitin, it is you who is not being truthful, though perhaps inadvertently, because you took the untruthful article you cite at its word, and didn’t bother reading the document it deliberately mistranslated. Reb Chaim absolutely did NOT call those who violate the heath ministry’s rules rodfim, and there is no heter to do so. As anyone can see by simply looking at the document that is EMBEDDED IN THE FALSE ARTICLE, Reb Chaim reserved the term “rodef” for someone who is A KNOWN CARRIER, IN QUARANTINE, and breaks it to go to a minyan. Such a peson, who KNOWS FOR A FACT that he is a danger to others, and has therefore been ordered to stay away from them, and knowingly goes and exposes them, is obviously a rodef.
DC, Floyed was NOT strangled. And anyone who says he can’t breathe, can. Do you deny that a counterfeiter should be arrested, and that if he fights his arrest he should be restrained and subdued? There is no right to resist arrest and fight the police, just because one doesn’t feel like being arrested that day.
Question: Is there a problem using for the eruv a tavshil which is inedible when cold, and will therefore need to be reheated before Shabbos, using the eruv?
Also everyone includes everyone else, so even if the rov forgot he and we would all be covered. Nevertheless one may not rely on this unless one genuinely intended to do it and forgot, or if one was an am ho’oretz and didn’t know the halacha (but one who is capable of learning is at fault for not knowing it).May 31, 2020 12:43 am at 12:43 am in reply to: Chasidus bans “informers” from using its facilities #1865942
Joseph, how does the law of handing a Jew’s property over to goyim apply in Israel? Whatever the rights or wrongs of informing on someone to the Israeli authorities, clearly the provisions of Choshen Mishpot ch 388 do not apply there.
RE and Chanania, you are wrong. We ARE Americans. Not just on paper but in every way. We are not strangers or guests here but equal partners and owners of this country. Even if it’s not our true permanent home, it belongs to us just as much as it belongs to every other citizen. We do not petition for privileges, we demand our rights. (This creates a temptation to simply settle down here and start considering it our home, and forget about Eretz Yisroel. We must resist that temptation, and remember that we intend eventually to leave here and go home. But in the meantime we are not here as strangers or guests or even as tenants, but as owners. And when we go back home we will still be owners here, unless we voluntarily choose to renounce it.)
n0m, now I know you’re a troll. In fact you’re a Democrat fraud. Paul Broun is a medical doctor, and is not in any way anti-science. He has not taken one anti-science policy position. But you Democrats are obsessed with evolution, which is your religion. You demand that everyone bow to the ghost of Darwin and acknowledge with their lips and in their hearts that we are descended from monkeys, or else they are heretics. That has nothing to do with science. What a person believes about historical events that either did or didn’t happen thousands of years ago has no effect on any policy, and does not reflect on their attitude to science. On every single policy issue that has to do with science, it is the Democrats who take the mystical position, rejecting all evidence and all rationality. And you are one of them.
The Defense Production Act authorizes the president to ensure that scarce and critical materials necessary to the national defense effort are available for defense needs. The armed forces and workers in defense industries need to eat, so the food supply is a critical part of the national defense. Religious establishments are not, and the president can’t order them open or closed.
Joseph, I thought you wrote “workshop” on purpose, and were making a joke. If you were serious, then no, it should be obvious that this cannot work. How could the Defense Production Act possibly allow him to interfere in a matter that has no connection to defense production? What military equipment are shuls and churches making?
n0m, the posuk explicitly says the reason. This is not some kind of drosho, it’s right there in the posuk. I can only conclude that you’re a troll, and it’s a waste of time dealing with you. Go away.
RE, what are you on about now? We are not talking about deaths, we are talking about the increase in the number of confirmed cases of infection. That is caused entirely by testing. The more people are tested the more cases there will be. The cases discovered by testing healthy people are not dead, they’re not even sick, and they’re in no danger.
Charlie, stop lying. The ban on travel from China covered ALL foreigners; only US citizens and residents were allowed in, as of course they had to be. And the fact that you STILL denounce it as “racist” just shows what a fundamentally dishonest and bad person you are, how your sin’ah distorts everything you write. The disease was rampant in China. The Chinese government was not allowing people from Wuhan to go anywhere in China, but was letting them go and infect the whole world. And when Trump put a stop to that all the Democrats called him racist and insisted that all those infected people must be allowed to come and infect us, just so as not to be “racist”. Just as they all insisted we must go to Chinatown and to the Chinese New Year parades. At least they didn’t go as far as the Italian authorities who encouraged people to hug a Chinese person. Talk about rotzchim!
The ban didn’t extend to other countries because at the time the disease wasn’t known to be spreading there. And if he’d banned travel from Italy and Spain you’d have just accused him of even more racism.
As for the Queen’s powers, the fact that English kings could not impose taxes did not detract from their sovereignty. The taxing power was just not regarded as one of the perquisites of sovereignty. Parliament still served the king, not the other way around. It was the Glorious Revolution that finally said no, Parliament is sovereign, and can hire and fire kings. Then when Queen Anne’s last child died Parliament conducted a modern executive search for her successor, headhunted Sophie of Hanover, and negotiated a contract with her, which was codified in the Act of Settlement. The most important provision of that contract was to separate the Crown from the Queen; Sophie would not get the Crown revenues, but would instead be paid a salary like any modern executive. The Crown would be the government, which is the Queen as advised by her ministers.
The reason the Royal Assent is never denied to the acts Parliament passes is simply because the Assent is not controlled by the Queen, it’s controlled by her ministers, and since they also control the Commons (or they wouldn’t be her ministers) they naturally assent to everything it passes.
Joseph, is that a joke?
Did the Presidents comments override the limit?
No, of course not. He has no power to override anything the governors do. He’s a president, not a king. The governors don’t work for him, or under him. He’s a good president, but he needs to stay in his lane.
If you were overwhelmed why didn’t you send patients to the Javits or the Comfort? That’s what they were supposedly there for. But using them wouldn’t help create the crisis that the governor wanted so he could cry about how much the rest of the country owed him.
Chaim, if you’re looking to leave the city only because of cheap housing, then consider Detroit or Rochester. So long as you don’t mind the cold, and you have a job that you can do remotely, those are both excellent communities with very cheap housing. The reason for the cheap housing is the lack of jobs, but if that’s not a problem for you then it’s an advantage.
RE, there is nothing not to agree about. Testing doesn’t change people, but it creates the increase in cases. The number of cases is NOT how many people are actually infected, it’s how many people are KNOWN to be infected, and that is created only by testing. If you have not been tested then you are not one of the cases, and when you are tested and found to have it then you become one of the cases. And THAT IS THE ONLY REASON the number of cases goes up.
And the fact that so many people have it, and yet so few people are sick, means that the danger of this virus is in fact VERY LOW. All the scary numbers we were told at the beginning, which frightened us into agreeing to this disastrous lockdown, were FALSE. If we knew then what we know now we would have resisted the government’s orders and refused to obey them, and dared them to arrest everyone.May 22, 2020 2:21 pm at 2:21 pm in reply to: Gravestone (matzeva) Inscriptions seeking opinions/advice #1863596
Definitely put the names of all her relatives who never had a matzeiva of their own. TNTzBH means may her soul be united with G-d. Whether to put the mother’s name as well as the father’s is your choice; some do both, some do only the father. Certainly if the mother was an important person then she should be mentioned.
No Republican, ever, has said that the Republicans are an anti-science party, let alone said it proudly. You’re just making that up.
Trump is still not a typical Republican and never will be. Republicans like him because he’s implementing mostly Republican policies, and he’s standing up to the Democrats, but most Republicans are not like him, and his quirks, especially from the past when he was a Democrat, do not reflect on the party.
And “climate change”, formerly “global warming” and before that “the greenhouse effect” is a huge hoax. Again, the amount of exposed fraud is enough to show that the whole thing is a scam. If it were real then its chief proponents wouldn’t be committing all these frauds.
And you asked about the ridiculous modeling goofs. I explained it to you, and informed you that if you want to know about the Minnesota case look at Power Line. If you don’t want to look don’t, but don’t pretend you know anything about the subject.
And no, the hospitals were NOT overwhelmed, not even in NY. The Javits and the Comfort prove that. And in the rest of the country the hospitals and the whole medical sector has been practically destroyed by the stupid restrictions. There was no curve to flatten.
RE, you are wrong and Trump is right. The rise in the number of cases is ENTIRELY the result of the increase in testing. If there is no testing there are no cases. The infected people are just as infected, but they are not reflected in the statistics because nobody knows about them. The more testing is done the more cases are discovered. These are people who ARE NOT SICK. There is nothing to be sad about that they are infected. It’s doing them no harm. But now that they’ve been tested they are included in the statistics, so OF COURSE the number is rising.
Until about 20 years ago the number of known extrasolar planets was ZERO. Only when we started looking for them did we find any. Now the number keeps rising, not because they’re forming an increased rate but because we’re looking for them in more places and with more precise instruments.
n0m, her uf hacken a chainik. The posuk says very clearly why one should not curse a king or a rich man — because you will get caught. No other reason. It has nothing to do with respect or society. Since when is a rich man a leader? The ONLY reason is that you will get caught and they will punish you. In our society that is impossible; Trump neither can nor would punish anyone for cursing him. Therefore there is no reason not to, except that he doesn’t deserve it.
And the king being the state is the very DEFINITION of kingdom. There is no kingdom without the king. Again, stop hacking a chainik, it’s like you’re demanding proof that a dog is not an elephant, or that a rock is not a tree. They are very different things.