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AAQ: The idea of asking women to marry later is way off base. With the current issue of a solid percentage of women not being able to get married altogether due to a shortage of men to marry, any woman asked to wait to get married will recoil in horror and panicked fear that a delay may be an indefinite one. From her perspective, the best shot at avoiding being left at the altar with no one, is to get married as early as possible (much like Chazal say and is the Torah way.) She will not accept any suggestions from anyone to delay marriage for an alleged societal benefit, but to her great indefinite detriment.
AAQ: Do we have examples of Klal Isroel using polygamy as an emergency solution? Or at least, at the times before R Gershom increasing polygamy from a rare occurrence to a frequent practice?
No one suggested making polygamy a “frequent practice”. Even permitting it on an infrequent basis, as needed only with rabbinical approval, can alleviate the disparity in numbers. If even a small percentage of husbands took a second wife, that should correct the current imbalance to a great degree.
This is new? Its been like this for a thousand years. It isn’t unique to us, either.
Mr. Nodel:
The Holocaust alone outweighs ALL the Arab atrocities *combined*.
The Crusades alone outweighs ALL the Arab atrocities *combined*.
Tach V’tat alone outweighs ALL the Arab atrocities *combined*.
The Inquisition alone outweighs ALL the Arab atrocities *combined*.
And the above are just four examples. Stop being a Christian/European apologist.
And like mentioned previously, do not forget the European destruction of Yerushalayim and the Bais Hamikdash.
This doesn’t sound like Judaism at all. It sounds like a newfangled religion, such as Reform, Conservative and Reconstructionist, that falsely advertises themselves as Judaism.
For the greatest contrast of the difference between living under Muslim rule versus living under Christian rule, simply contrast our experience living in Muslim Spain versus our experience in Christian Spain after the Christians ousted the Muslim rulers from Spain.
The golden age of Jewish Arab relations came to a screeching halt once the Zionists came to the scene (starting in 1898 and in full swing by 1917) and announced their plans to take over the Holy Land.
In the 2,000+ years Jews lived under Arab and Muslim rule, I don’t think even cumulatively all the Arab/Muslim violence inflicted against us added up toany one of the following European/Christian violence against us: 1) the Crusades 2) the Inquisition 3) Tach V’tat OR 4) the Holocaust.
That’s not to mention that blood libels the Christians came up with every Monday and Thursday, the programs every few decades, the expulsions from so many different European countries, spread generations apart, every Christmas year after year when the priests would set the Christian masses aflame against the local Jewish population (hence nittul nacht), forcing the local Jewish populations to pay the current ruler tremendous amounts of money that couldn’t be met just for the opportunity to live under their bloody rule and so so many more crimes against Jewish humanity every year.
Don’t forget that it was the Europeans coming from Rome that destroyed the Beis Hamikdash. And the Christian church that accused world Jewry of being collectively guilty of deicide, of “killing g-d”, and thus justifying their most bloody and repeated attempts of genocide against Jewry.
No Jews have been treated well anywhere in Golus.
That’s what Golus is about. Hashem is reminding us we are not at home. (No, not even in Israel; that’s part of Golus too, today.)
That all said, however bad the Muslims treated us, the Christians and Europeans treated us far far far worse than the Muslims and Arabs ever did. Compared to the Christians/Europeans, our times in the Arab/Muslim lands was a comparative paradise, on a relative basis.
“What is the divide between Conservative and Orthodox on ideology?”
N0m: Here are some random examples, to answer your question:
Conservatives:
Homosexual activity is ok; homosexual “unions” are okay.
Being Mechallel Shabbos is okay to drive to temple.
Women so-called “rabbis” is a thing.
Tznius is not a thing.
Shomer negia isn’t necessary.
It’s okay to eat treif when traveling.
Avira, the Vilna Gaon wrote that his two biggest regrets in life was his failure to 1) instate saying Birchas Kohanim during the week in Chutz L’aretz and 2) end the cherem against polygamy.
Rav Avigdor Miller also said (it’s available in his voice on his tapes and is printed in one of the recent Seforim from him) that if the Gedolim today thought it necessary, they could end the cherem against polygamy.
Also, Avira, regarding your second point, if a girl was (say) 45 years old and never married despite trying hard (as so many r’l are), I think a nice number of that demographic would consider it if it were acceptable in Yiddish society.
Square: Mr. Weissman is blockhead whose articles on this subject are all fatuous.
Are there really thousands and thousands of women in their 50s, 40s and 30s that never got married, whereas there are only very few men those ages who never married?
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Conservative is apikorsus. It is even forbidden to simply walk into any of their temples.
Do all the “Benny’s Pizza” stores (Boro Park, Flatbush, etc) share ownership or is that another case of copycat stores?
And, then, there’s the kosher Bravo Pizza stores (Manhattan, Queens, Brooklyn) and the non-kosher Bravo Pizza stores (Manhattan).
Participant: He can deny the person in the video is him. (To take one hypothetical example, among many possibilities.)
Ahh, CTL, we’re lantzman!! You should of told us this years ago!
Ahh, CTL, we’re lantzman!! You should of told us this years ago!
CTL, do you have any familial or other connection with Hungary (other than as a tourist)?
You can’t be sure he’s the right guy until a court convicts him.
N0m: What nafka mina are you trying to make to the underlying point with your addendum?
And what makes you believe your addition is accurate?
You call that “order”?
Mod, pls move this thread to DECAFFEINATED. Thx
Did anyone ever figure out which Jerusalem II pizza store was the original (or what is the shaychus of all the copycats to the original store)?
MODS: Can you please move this thread to DECAFFEINATED? Thank you
Did the sky fall or WWII break out as a result of the terrible terrible 4 day delay in choosing a Speaker?
What if Claus von Stauffenberg had been successful in assassinating Hitler?
What if.
What about the OO rabbonim who are matir?
I don’t believe a private corporation is precluded from compelling their employees to speak whatever they’re instructed, or instructed not to, as the First Amendment isn’t applicable to private entities but rather only to government.
Today’s session is over. We’ll see you next week.
The Arabs have been violently objecting to Jewish access to Har Habayis for *centuries*.
“Right now, the House has no members, so it can’t happen”
CTLAWYER: What can’t happen?
Also, whoever the President nominates doesn’t assume the office of Vice President until confirmed by the Senate. (The House isn’t involved in the confirmation of a new VP.)
Jersey Jew: How are you sure that site is affiliated with Yated?
Does the Rambam mention any age for one who is going to have to interrupt a lucrative education or interrupt competing a world tour?
akuperma: Why is it any less clear than if the Vice President ascended upon the vacancy of the presidency (which has occurred several times)?
Next in line for the presidency, after the vacant position of Speaker, is the President Pro Tempore of the Senate.
There is no Speaker, currently.
Dofi: Do you consider Chazal and Pirkei Avos to be childish trolls? Or do you consider them to be a bunch of grumpy old men whose ideas are outdated?
Ad revenue, clickbait and laziness.
Name any real posek who ever said it’s okay to choose to not be married by age 24 for a Torah learner, or that it’s okay to choose to not be married by age 20 for a non-learner. Or that you don’t have to make every possible effort to be married before those ages.
Apologies. The poll is regarding the age to start dating, not necessarily being married by. So the comment should be that the results are over 20% of the Yidden hold a bochor should start dating by time he’s 19 years old. And a majority hold that they should start dating no later than by 21 years old.
Also, it is very important to remember that Chazal say to be married by (not to just start dating by) age 18. And actual obligatory Halacha is that you are required to be married by age 20. The only possible exception, and only if you’re learning Torah full time, some shittos will allow you to wait up to a mandatory maximum age of 24 to be married by.
How much do they cost?
So far the results are over 20% of the Yidden hold a bochor should be married before he’s 20 years old. And a majority hold that they should be married no later than 21 years old.
The newspapers do not have Daas Torah. If you think otherwise kindly name exactly which rabbi is their alleged Daas Torah.
But I certainly agree with you that the websites are 100s of times worse.
The newspapers do not have Daas Torah. If you think otherwise kindly name exactly which rabbi is their alleged Daas Torah.
But I certainly agree with you that the websites are 100s of times worse.
You are halachicly obligated to get married by age 20 according to the Shulchan Aruch. Or, according to some shittos, by 24 if (AND ONLY IF) you are learning Torah full time.