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  • in reply to: Collecting with R’ Chaim on the internet? #1758020

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    DY,
    Do you know this or is that what you believe about the internet so you’re assuming that’s what R’chaim said?
    Because I’ve seen him quoted as saying that the internet is yaarog v’aal yaavor period, I’ve never seen him quoted as giving exemptions.

    in reply to: Is Harry Potter kosher #1732588

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    1-3 are kosher. 4-7 aren’t as they are teenagers. The cursed prince requires parent decision as it is slightly problematic. i believe the 2 books of the new play series also is on a similiar level as the cursed prince.
    The cursed prince does not make any sense whatsoever and is a waste of time to read.
    In regard to religious ideas, my aunt says it is a mashal to the constant battle b/w the yetzer harah(voldy) and yetzer tov(dumbledore).
    Events can mostly be translated into jewish stuff also.

    in reply to: Did YWN cave to pressure and remove a news item? #1715125

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    Probably Same mafia that shut concert attacked ywn


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    We call it dating.

    in reply to: Corporal punishment must remain an option for teachers #1652675

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    Joseph,
    Why only hit the kids, let’s restart malkus!
    No! because right now you’d have people leaving the frum communities left and right.
    Maybe when mashiach comes our minds will work differently and that’s why it will be reinstated.

    in reply to: Studies on vaccines you might have missed.👨‍🔬💉🚫 #1633529

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    Doomsday,
    You keep saying that vaccines cause autism to rise. So then why haven’t autism rates stopped rising 20 years ago?\

    And the study I brought:
    FROM Johns Hopkins analysis
    “While many different combinations of genetic traits can cause autism, brains affected by autism share a pattern of ramped-up immune responses and related inflammation, an analysis of data from autopsied human brains reveals.

    The study, a collaborative effort between Johns Hopkins and the University of Alabama at Birmingham, included data from 72 autism and control brains. It was published online last week in the journal Nature Communications.

    “There are many different ways of getting autism, but we found that they all have the same downstream EFFECT,” says Dan Arking, an associate professor in the McKusick-Nathans Institute for Genetic Medicine at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. “What we don’t know is whether this immune response is making things better in the short term and worse in the long term.””

    If you read carefully, as seen in this sentence “brains affected by autism share a pattern of ramped-up immune responses and related inflammation.” this study by an extremely respected orginization says that autism causes brain swelling and not the other way around as Doomsday tried to claim.
    This was a clear lie on Doomsdays part.

    in reply to: Studies on vaccines you might have missed.👨‍🔬💉🚫 #1632734

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    Doomsday,
    Vaccinator just caught you on another LIE.
    The mods should throw you off.

    in reply to: Studies on vaccines you might have missed.👨‍🔬💉🚫 #1632733

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    FROM Johns Hopkins analysis
    “While many different combinations of genetic traits can cause autism, brains affected by autism share a pattern of ramped-up immune responses and related inflammation, an analysis of data from autopsied human brains reveals.

    The study, a collaborative effort between Johns Hopkins and the University of Alabama at Birmingham, included data from 72 autism and control brains. It was published online last week in the journal Nature Communications.

    “There are many different ways of getting autism, but we found that they all have the same downstream EFFECT,” says Dan Arking, an associate professor in the McKusick-Nathans Institute for Genetic Medicine at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. “What we don’t know is whether this immune response is making things better in the short term and worse in the long term.””

    This says that encephalitis does NOT cause autism as Doomsday seems to be claiming, but rather the other way around.
    Doomsday, that is twisting around words and pure trickery. If you have to resort to lying then you obviously can’t win honestly.

    To adress Doomsday’s refutation of my risk weighout.
    PBS.ORG
    “Others who can sign a death certificate include a primary physician, an attending physician, a non-attending physician, a medical examiner, a nurse practitioner, a forensic pathologist or a coroner, but it varies according to state law. In Texas, for example, a justice of the peace can sign.”
    That means that when the other 3,500 people died, the cause of death could easily have been written down as a complication of Measles. For example pneumonia.

    Another point of Doomsday was that only one percent of vaccine injuries were reported. He then quoted the Department of Health and Human Services:
    “Electronic support for public health vaccine event reporting system (it’s on the internet)
    “FEWER THEN 1% OF VACCINE ADVERSE EVENTS ARE REPORTED” pg 6”
    you know what the other %99 were? I would say a rash or slight reaction.

    Anti-vaxxers,
    Pls answer this. What exactly needs to be proven to you in order for you to agree?

    in reply to: Studies on vaccines you might have missed.👨‍🔬💉🚫 #1632006

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    OK Doomsday,
    So really 1 in 7777 died as per the CDC on a different link.
    “In the decade before 1963 when a vaccine became available, nearly all children got measles by the time they were 15 years of age. It is estimated 3 to 4 million people in the United States were infected each year. Also each year, among reported cases, an estimated 400 to 500 people died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and 1,000 suffered encephalitis (swelling of the brain) from measles.”

    However, the statisistics still point in my favor.

    HRSA .GOV ON VACCINE INJURIES
    “How many petitions have been awarded compensation?
    According to the CDC, from 2006 to 2016 over 3.1 billion doses of covered vaccines were distributed in the U.S. For petitions filed in this time period, 5,564 petitions were adjudicated by the Court, and of those 3,773 were compensated. THIS MEANS FOR EVERY 1 MILLION DOSES OF VACCINE THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED, 1 INDIVIDUAL WAS COMPENSATED.”
    So, let’s calculate. We now have a 0.07 chance of dying if we don’t vaccinate and a .00001 chance of vaccine injury if we vaccinate.
    Not vaccinating is still not worth it.
    I’m still right, so you have to prove me wrong or you lose.

    “I WON THE DEBATE UNLESS YOU CAN PROVE THAT CDC DIDN’T LIE WHEN IT SAYS 1:1,000 DIE OF MEASLES!”
    Why do i have to prove CDC didn’t lie?
    The debate is over whether to vaccinate.

    in reply to: My Inner Thoughts On Vaccine Politics #1631910

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    “After all we live in America.
    I’m sure you know our country was founded on the belief of freedom. I’m sure you agree that as humans we should have freedom of choice.”
    Yes, but just like I can’t fire off ten rounds from a gun in a super market which may or may not damage someone, you can’t live in a pro-vax community and vaccinate.
    If you want you can start a new community elsewhere and stay out of the pro-vax communities.

    “I don’t ask you to agree or follow my choices.”
    That’s right, however you do ask me to run the risk of I or my family members contracting a deadly illness.

    in reply to: Studies on vaccines you might have missed.👨‍🔬💉🚫 #1631055

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    ANTI VAXXERS,
    I noticed something funny about you; your’ single point has been adressed.
    You said autism rates are up because of vaccines, but as 2scents said, “why hasn’t there been a plateau?”
    Furthermore,
    CDC/MMWR
    “Overall, U.S. vaccination coverage is at record high levels. In 1997, coverage among children aged 19-35 months (median age: 27 months) exceeded 90% for three or more doses of diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and pertussis vaccine (DTP), three or more doses of poliovirus vaccine, three or more doses of Hib vaccine, and one or more doses of measles-containing vaccine.”
    STATISTICA.COM
    “It was found that in the year 2017, around 91.5 percent of children aged 19 to 35 months had received all their doses of the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine.”
    Okay, so vaccination rates stayed about the same for MMR for the past 20 years.
    (It actually fell for others, as seen on the graph on Statistica.)
    So then why did autism continue to rise?

    However, YOU never addressed this.

    HRSA .GOV ON VACCINE INJURIES
    “How many petitions have been awarded compensation?
    According to the CDC, from 2006 to 2016 over 3.1 billion doses of covered vaccines were distributed in the U.S. For petitions filed in this time period, 5,564 petitions were adjudicated by the Court, and of those 3,773 were compensated. THIS MEANS FOR EVERY 1 MILLION DOSES OF VACCINE THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED, 1 INDIVIDUAL WAS COMPENSATED.

    Since 1988, over 20,018 petitions have been filed with the VICP. Over that 30-year time period, 17,536 petitions have been adjudicated, with 6,276 of those determined to be compensable, while 11,260 were dismissed. Total compensation paid over the life of the program is approximately $4.0 billion.”

    Remember, those are facts.

    OK, so we have about 10,000 vaccine injuries since 1988. (including unreported and unfairly uncompensated)
    let’s do some math. Since 1988, USA population has gone up by around 41 million. According to the CDC, 1 in a thousand measles cases die. if there were no vaccines everyone would have gotten the measles. This means that 41,000 of those 41 million would have died. so we have the option of either 10,000 vaccine injuries vs. 41,000 deaths.
    Which do you think is worse?

    If you do not PROVE this reasoning wrong, you have lost the debate.

    in reply to: Studies on vaccines you might have missed.👨‍🔬💉🚫 #1630402

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    Anti-vaxxers,
    Would you take this?
    “An experimental vaccine that could hold off Alzheimer’s disease is showing results in animal testing, according to researchers at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center.

    Testing in mice has shown that the vaccine safely prevents the buildup of substances in the brain associated with the fatal disease, the team reported this week in the journal Alzheimer’s Research & Therapy.

    Following previous research in monkeys and rabbits, the researchers now hope that the vaccine will progress to human trials. If the vaccine proves safe and effective in humans it could slice the number of dementia diagnoses in half, the study’s senior author told USA TODAY.”
    (found on Matzav)

    in reply to: Studies on vaccines you might have missed.👨‍🔬💉🚫 #1630374

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    Josh,
    you said
    “I strongly believe that there is a real actual question in this case, does one put their child at risk by administering a MMR vaccine when it has been proven and have many eyewitness testimonies that it has caused autism and irreversible brain damage to an otherwise healthy child.”
    I don’t understand you. You say you don’t like vaccines because they are harmful. Let’s put this into percpective.
    1 in a thousand cases of measles die.
    1 in ten causes permanent hearing loss.

    Look at this.
    HRSA .GOV ON VACCINE INJURIES
    “How many petitions have been awarded compensation?
    FOR EVERY 1 MILLION DOSES OF VACCINE THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED, 1 INDIVIDUAL WAS COMPENSATED.

    So if we don’t take vaccines, 1 in a thousand die. if we do take vaccines 1 in a million gets damaged.
    Now if you had a choice of either a .01% chance of dying, or a 0.00001% of recieving a vaccine injury, what would you pick?
    THATS FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You argue?

    “To dismissively and coldheartedly discount it is definitely not a midda of any frum yid and is not coming from people that have torah or yiras shamayim in them.”

    YOU SAID WHAT!?
    How about you causing extreme danger to everyone else who is trying to be a responsible adult by actually believing the facts, that’s “a midda of a frum yid and is coming from people that have torah or yiras shamayim”?

    And then you’re not going to respond because you really have nothing to say.

    in reply to: Studies on vaccines you might have missed.👨‍🔬💉🚫 #1629348

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    HRSA .GOV ON VACCINE INJURIES
    “How many petitions have been awarded compensation?
    According to the CDC, from 2006 to 2016 over 3.1 billion doses of covered vaccines were distributed in the U.S. For petitions filed in this time period, 5,564 petitions were adjudicated by the Court, and of those 3,773 were compensated. THIS MEANS FOR EVERY 1 MILLION DOSES OF VACCINE THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED, 1 INDIVIDUAL WAS COMPENSATED.

    Since 1988, over 20,018 petitions have been filed with the VICP. Over that 30-year time period, 17,536 petitions have been adjudicated, with 6,276 of those determined to be compensable, while 11,260 were dismissed. Total compensation paid over the life of the program is approximately $4.0 billion.”

    Remember, those are facts.

    OK, so we have about 10,000 vaccine injuries since 1988. (including unreported and unfairly uncompensated)
    let’s do some math. Since 1988, USA population has gone up by around 41 million. According to the CDC, 1 in a thousand measles cases die. if there were no vaccines everyone would have gotten the measles. This means that 41,000 of those 41 million would have died. so we have the option of either 10,000 vaccine injuries vs. 41,000 deaths.
    Which do you think is worse?

    Convinced?

    in reply to: THREAD: Not for Anti-vaxxers #1625805

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    I was told by someone involved in programming YWN that many votes for the poll were submitted over all hours of shabbos. Sounds to me like it’s people who have no connection to yeshivos anyway, and therefore the poll is unreliable.

    in reply to: THREAD: Not for Anti-vaxxers #1625802

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    Just a bunch of stats:
    90%-95% of the population is needed to be vaccinated for herd immunity from measles, 80%-85% for polio.

    STATS FROM CDC:
    Hospitalization 1 out of 4 cases.
    Encephalitis (inflammation of the brain) 1 per 1,000 cases.
    Death 1-2 per 1,000 cases.
    Ear infections occur in about one out of every 10 children with measles and can result in permanent hearing loss.

    In 1960, 400,000 people contracted measles, that means about 400 died. The population at the time was 180.7 million. The population now is about 325 million. That means that if no one was vaccinated now, 800 people would have died of measles in 2018. This means that if not for vaccines, 36 thousand extra people in the US alone would have died since 1960. That’s how many soldiers died in the Korean war.

    After that, how many people were supposedly harmed by vaccines?
    I don’t think it’s worth the risk of not vaccinating.

    in reply to: Why should we not harrass the anti vaxers #1624904

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    PLEASE CHANGE LAST POST 2ND PARAGRAGH TO “Do you know the EXACT(not really capitilized) wording of the question posed to R’ Chaim?

    in reply to: Why should we not harrass the anti vaxers #1624902

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    You found two rabbanim, there are many more others who say you have to vaccinate.
    Do you know the wording of the question which was asked to R’ Chaim?

    in reply to: How can the Lakewood township fix the local traffic problem? #1621791

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    Put all the L buses on the same route- up and down the 9. this will immediately take many cars going to yeshiva off the road.
    Also put a bridge over the lake from Sunset to Forest and paint normal lines on forest.

    in reply to: Interesting science #1619868

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    “That can only make sense if the speed of light from one flash was slower than the speed of light from the other flash, which is impossible.”
    Why? The light in front of him moved closer to him when the train moved towards it. (the same way when two cars go towards each other they meet other faster then when only one moves.) however, he is sort of running away from the photons behind him, so it will take them longer to hit him, however they are still there.

    646,
    this is my question,
    in this time dimension we’re all moving in certain direction, right?
    So then when we move, we’re going a little faster than everyone else in this dimension, and therefore time passes faster, correct?
    But according to that, wouldn’t it be that if i move in a different direction, I should be going backwards in this time dimension?
    Why am i always heading forward when i move?

    in reply to: Pro Vaccination Paranoia in the frum community. #1617844

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    They need mobile clinics now, because the regular clinics can’t handle the volume. (and that’s also why Dr. Shaniks office in Lakewood was triple as full as a normal Friday this past Friday.)

    And now many babies even of pro-vaxxers are put at risk because the parents are afraid to take them to the doctor for their vaccines because of all the possible carriers there for shots. (And the shot takes 21 days to take affect.)
    Plus, one of the infected people in Lakewood visited NPGS, and therefore my 2 year old baby was exposed to the measles. She only had her first shot.

    I saw someone said alcohol is also the same dangerous, now i don’t know how many frum yidden have died from alcohol, but this outbreak started within four weeks ago and already a child died.
    Someone else said obesity is also the same dangerous. Well guess what, me being fat is never going to kill your kid!

    And my being vaccinated doesn’t mean i can’t catch the measles, i still have a three percent chace of getting it every time i’m exposed. That means that if i’m exposed enough times, i’ll probably get it.

    And just because measles isn’t so dangerous, something else might be. For example Pertussis, that’s very dangerous for babies. A 2 month old baby in my family almost got brain damaged or died from it, if the anti-vaxxers aren’t stopped, that might be next.

    in reply to: Interesting science #1617846

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    I was thinking some more, and i was trying to understand the following. If time is everything moving through something, how do we know the train isn’t going backwards on this thing?

    in reply to: Some topics are just too controversial for the coffee room moderators. #1617847

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    Now we can answer his topic.

    I don’t think there is a lack of competition, but the va’ad deciding for many people who they should vote for simply knocks out all competitors. (i saw an ad for some other candidate, forgot his name.)

    in reply to: PLEASE ADD A “LIKE” BUTTON!!!! #1617845

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    If there was a like button, i would be able to just hit it on b’lev echads post instead of having to right this.
    I think Belev Echad is right.

    in reply to: An end to inequality vs an and to suffering #1617848

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    what do you mean by inequality?

    in reply to: Interesting science #1616807

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    I GET IT!
    thanks 646.

    in reply to: Controversial opinion (T) #1616802

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    Maybe you and your spouse should be able to sell children which you yourself gave birth to, but only for adoption, not slavery. and the child should not be able to get resold.

    in reply to: The Biggest Kanoim Today #1616799

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    Rabbi Aderet is now the biggest kanoi of the day.

    in reply to: Interesting science #1616154

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    In regard to atomic clocks, would all clocks be a little off since you carried it home from the store?

    “In your case the two men would still observe the events differently (i.e. different intervals of time between the two lightning strikes) due to the fact that the train is moving.”
    Yes, but the man on the platform will not see the strikes at the same time. This should prove that it is not only movement which can change your perception.
    Also, if the man on the train had super long hands and one was in front of the train and and the other in back, he would feel both strikes at the same time. this should show that time has not slowed. And even though he sees them at different times, that’s because of the fact that the back light hasn’t hit him, but it’s still there.

    in reply to: Interesting science #1615522

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    Avram,
    I was thinking more about the train mashal and i don’t get it. Suppose the man on the platform was not at the middle of the train, but closer to the front. He would also see the strikes not as simultaneous, but rather he would see the front one first because it’s a shorter distance. this should prove that the train example has nothing to do with the train moving.

    Yserbius,
    Why is time for him moving faster?

    Joseph,
    I’m not running to college just because you want to sound sophisticated, please explain or don’t make things sound even more complicated.

    Anyone know how to explain this stuff simply?
    And anyone know what a wormhole would do and how you can make one?

    in reply to: Vegas Massacre: 59 Good Reasons to Outlaw Automatic Weapons #1614822

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    Redleg,
    that type of uprising wouldn’t be neccessary, or if it was, it wouldn’t work nowadays for 2 reasons.

    1) easy access to a powerful social/media, therefore the governor wouldn’t be able to ignore it the problems with the voting issues.

    2) the reason the uprising worked is because the national guard took to long to come, now days can they come much faster.

    Besides, those same citizens are the ones who might believe that jews are evil and go shoot a bunch of them.

    in reply to: Interesting science #1614812

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    Thanks Meno, dovid, and avram.
    Joseph,
    i have no idea what you’re talking about.

    in reply to: Vegas Massacre: 59 Good Reasons to Outlaw Automatic Weapons #1612146

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    Is there anyone who here who does not believe that the US should ban all large round guns?
    if we do that, then you can’t really massacre anyone and all problems solved.
    someones going to ask about street gun crimes, so i’ll preempt them that most of it doesn’t involve citizens and is usually criminal on criminal. So gun crime probably helps prevent robberies from none-criminal-involved families.

    in reply to: Liberal conspiracy #1612141

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    I saw somewhere that the bombs were set on a timer. if so how could they have been meant to kill the target, you can’t predict down to the second when he will get it?!

    (poor republicans who claimed/still claim it was a liberal, the guy was a die-hard trumpist)

    in reply to: Liberal conspiracy #1611329

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    Anyone who doesn’t think it could be liberal hasn’t been following the news recently, they’ll stoop to anything. At the same time however, there is an equal chance that it is some angry trump supporter.
    I just don’t understand why Republicans are saying it is for sure a liberal when they have no way of knowing if it is, and have a large chance of being made to look like fools.

    in reply to: Why it’s better not to win the lottery #1610475

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    1,
    Although i’d love to win, statistically, 70% of winners go broke within 5 years of winning.

    in reply to: Gee thanks, anti-vaxxers #1610449

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    This is a major chillull hashem, and might even be some form of retzicha by proponents of anti-vax.
    where are all the rabbanim who should be coming out and making asifos? in lakewood i have even heard rumors (they don’t sound so right, but are always possible) that certain major establishment rabbanim support anti-vaxxers

    in reply to: Peace Plan #1610437

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    646,
    previously you said a two state solution would be best for Israel because it would give them the ability to destroy infrastructure. However, now you said no one will be funding this infrastructure, so Israel still won’t be able to bomb anything.
    Besides what would stop the government of the new state from putting human shields near all military targets like they do now in Gaza? (by storing weapons and tunnel entrances in residential areas)


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    statistically, (i just googled it) 70% of lottery winners go broke.
    Jewish people are normally more financially successful than average, so wouldn’t most of the people in the CR have at least a 60% chance of having a nice post lottery life?

    in reply to: Peace Plan #1609935

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    000646,
    You seem to believe that a one arab state solution is the best, however there will be an easily understandable consequence for Israel if this happens- simply the new citizens now have access to the weapons and facilities of the country formerly known as Israel, and there will be 6.5 million Jews killed in a second holocaust.
    f you want a two state solution, the population of the landmass of Israel just doubled, who’s paying the trillions of dollars for infrastructure?

    in reply to: Why it’s better not to win the lottery #1609930

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    Is it too much gashmiyus to be poor? it sounds so enjoyable!

    And RY23,
    just wondering, why do you have a crown?

    in reply to: Peace Plan #1609303

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    646,
    the Fakestanians have gaza which was given (maybe back to them, i don’t know) to them by israel to create peace as part of a deal, look what happened- terrorist attacks every day, intense rocket fire on and off. If you give them even more land why will it be any different than what happened to gaza?
    Also the Fakestanians don’t want a two state solution as proven by the fact that they chant “from the river to the sea”- that means the entire israel, not half!

    in reply to: Why it’s better not to win the lottery #1609302

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    DaasYochid,
    Can we sign a shtar that if you ever come onto more than a million dollars (be it a yerushah, lottery or investment etc.) I get it?

    in reply to: The stupid kind of gun control #1607350

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    What are proponents of guns saying to explain why they need assault rifles?
    Why can’t everyone agree to keep only handguns legal for only those without a history of violence?

    in reply to: Peace Plan #1607349

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    If we do a one or even two state solution, the population of the land mass of Israel will double, who’s paying the trillions of dollars for brand new cities and infrastructure?

    And also if you think Israel should kill all Palestinians the “goyish college liberal” is probably right that you’re evil. I don’t believe even 75% of Palestinians are all into terrorism or there would have been 4 million at the Friday protests, not just a couple thousand.

    in reply to: Peace Plan #1606836

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    Why isn’t Gaza a good enough state for those who want a new arab state?

    in reply to: Peace Plan #1606044

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    so i think we all agree (on the assumption that a joint jewish-arab cannot happen) that there is no possible peace plan.

    in reply to: President Donald Trump, Oheiv Yisroel Par Excellence #1605265

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    Why is trump like achashveirosh?
    I don’t think trump tried to kill us?

    in reply to: Peace Plan #1605251

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    Philosopher,
    you’re right that the Israeli’s don’t mind living with Arabs, but they do want to live in a jewish country.
    (which the reason for the nationality law.)

    in reply to: President Donald Trump, Oheiv Yisroel Par Excellence #1604484

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    Not that i think the Israeli cops are always right, but there has to be someway to maintain order in the streets without the goverment giving each segment of the public exactly what they want.

    Please don’t attack me, just what i wrote.

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