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Do those statistics you cited include the percentages among the casualties who were, say, shomer shabbat, atheists, leftists etc.? (Just curious.) I previously failed to mention that the kids whom i cited running without railings, were from “ultra” charedi families, every last one of them. Possibly their dati status provided extra zechuyot? Don’t get me wrong, my own level of religiosity is probably a far cry from those kids’ families, so consider this an objective perspective.
Now, as to what you said about relying on miracles – i didn’t say that we should rely on miracles, rather, I said it’s currently inadvisable to rely on miracles anymore. That comment was intended for those who are by nature careless/reckless (no matter how many past teachers taught them they’re not supposed to rely on miracles).
Another way of putting it, is “shomer psayim H’ – because (during “normal” times) it’s a given that a good number of people are reckless. So G-d sends out guardian angels made-to-order for such types. However, during times of Middas Hadin, perhaps even the psayim may have less protection. Like maybe the mechablim overwhelm the protective malachim, or alternatively, an absenteeism of protective malachim.
That’s why i said it’s currently inadvisable to be somech al haneis.
P.S. Sorry I didn’t clarify clearly what i meant by “infantile generation”. What i meant was, it’s as if G-d is saying, “Enough! By now you all need to learn not to be reckless and expect to be bailed out. Being reckless is a form of Not Being Noheg Kavod Zeh Lozeh! So no more bailouts. You all have to learn to respect each other, both verbally and physically, or live with the consequences. Nomore quick-words, and nomore reckless-moves.”
I should emphasize – I didn’t mean Meron “per se” or Givat Zev “per se” (because both were involuntary insofar as the attendees, not necessarily the organizers). Rather i mean that what happened there may be symbolic of the =biggest= reason for the G-d’s anger, which would be kavod habrios – not necessarily tznius-issues, or excess-gashmius. I hope i clarified myself.
In this instance i wouldn’t be quick to judge, because i read there was suspicious wetness on the metal ramp which created an abnormal slippery situation. Even in normal circumstances, people make missteps. So i wouldn’t judge them regarding “pushing or shoving”.
But now especially, after finding out about the Givat Zev bleachers tragedy, we must start analyzing the “metaphysical” aspect of all this, namely, that the special “shemirah” is now being withheld, and thus it’s currently inadvisable to be “somech al ha’neis” anymore.
See, as far back as decades ago, i used to witness ongoing open miracles in Israel, where little kids, sans adult supervision, would be recklessly running on stone walls which had no railings, coupled with sheer drops to concrete way below. Yet they all remained unscathed! Having witnessed such scenes ongoingly, I have ZERO doubt, that zillions of malachim have been constantly vigilant to guard the many happy-go-lucky people in Israel. As in “shomer psayim Hashem”.
Without a doubt, malachim have also worked overtime during every PAST Lag B’Omer in Meron. And that’s why the world hasn’t heard of such tragedies previously.
I mean, think about it. Isn’t it uncanny that a similar incident took place in Givat Zev so soon after Meron? How many numerous times have dense charedi crowds used bleachers in the past – ones which also probably weren’t built too well?
…And isn’t it uncanny that suddenly, the Iron Dome became so “overwhelmed”?
Do you really really think the aforesaid malachim couldn’t have mopped up the slippery wetness at Meron AND also prevented the people from toppling on each other? I myself had a miracle happen one Friday in Israel, when visiting Hebrew University, which me & my mother became aware was a near ghost town. Every which way we went trying to exit, was locked. I panicked, realizing it was soon Shabbos, so I scurried down the hall peeking into classrooms, then eventually found a chossid at a shtender inside one of the rooms, who seemed to be davening. He didn’t say a word, just motioned to me to wait, and eventually he led us, as well as a lost backpacker down a stationary escalator to a concrete platform, where we saw the Egged bus approaching. During all that time, he never said a word, just walked ahead of us, and we followed with sighs of relief. I’m sure that was Eliyahu Hanavi making sure we got back in time for Shabbos, because why on earth would a chossid be in an abandoned university in East Jerusalem on a Friday?
In summation, there’s times filled with open miracles, other times containing hidden miracles, and finally (such as many current happenings), the withholding of shemirah.
To AAQ: Since you brought up “health” note that I personally have been the least focused on Covid of anyone, since the entire thing started. I always skip over articles about same, as i’m focused on my own chronic issues (which are probably mutually exclusive to Covid) and which have never been of concern to anyone else, least of all the suppressive unhealthcare system.
(Just giving you some background, as its beyond the scope of this discussion.)
Which leads up to “why” i didn’t have in mind so much the Covid factor, as much as the jostling-crowd-factor unsafety factor. In other words, I get just as much the creeps from motorized-bikes mowing people down in the U.S. (and all sorts of stuff like that) as I’d be if i lived in Israel and knew that a relative was headed to the huge jostling crowds of Meron. It was a known fact every year that the crowds at Meron were scary (just research past chatter, especially by people who lived in the vicinity). i distinctly remember reading such chatter in the past, and you better believe i wouldn’t remember it if it hadn’t given me the chills when i read it.
Rebeli, Aryeh Deri, MK, mentioned in the news prior to and post-tragedy.
I didn’t mean that hospitals should release info. There are plenty of other channels on the www. There are private websites, blogs and forums all over the place, which can relay info via the grapevine. It happens all the time at warp speed. BTW, people in today’s times have been ongoingly conditioned to think that emotional pain is the worst of the worst. But that’s so far from the truth, because severe physical issues impact emotions as well. I mean, how many people even give a thought to vets in VA hospitals, or to those crippled by various Intifadas? But forever they have in mind Sept/11 and the same is with Meron/21. But not so much the living korbonos, rather the non-living korbonos, with exceptions such as Rav Lau.
To the OP – Actually? I think among the BIGGEST korbon’s in this tragedy are Aryeh Deri, and the organizers of the event. How Deri must feel, is beyond what I can fathom, way worse than when he was imprisoned. Somewhat like that guy in the Modiin region who chauffered a neighbor’s child in hot weather, and forgot he was in the car.
The crazy thing is, Deri had not even wanted to be in the knesset after he was imprisoned – they begged him. I wonder if there’s a support group for people like that. That’s probably why Rav Shteinman was so adamant about a toned-down levaya.
I’m sure he very much remembered what happened at Rav Wosner’s levaya.
So many people are attributing the tragedy to things like tzniut, talking in shul etc. I’m not saying those aren’t factors. What i am saying is that the most obvious which may be less talked about is: This is an immature, infantile generation, which doesn’t look before it leaps. Doesn’t think before it acts. Isn’t roeh es hanolad, to think of the outcome of every one of its actions. For example, that giving kids motorized bikes and letting them drive recklessly, is lots of excruciating irreversible pain waiting to happen to the victims they knock down.
“eizeh hu chacham haroeh es hanolad”. That represents rightwirter. Yet on the other hand, miracles are occurring even as i speak, and likewise, will occur on such dates they have planned to let loose various pandoras boxes. As i said “tzadik gazar”.
From my personal perspective, between me, myself and i, i frankly don’t know what’s worse, my severely painful ailments or Covid. And the two may even be mutually exclusive. After all, there was that woman in Israel who’d been disabled for decades by a virus, yet Covid cured her.
That’s what i mean by mutually exclusive! See, even inside the human anatomy EIN SHNEI MELOCHIM MESHAMSHIM B’KESER ECHAD! So maybe if i’d get Covid, i’d finally get some pain relief.
Angry? More like frustrated at the inconvenient chaos, never mind that there’s millions of young able-bodied talent, unlike in the past.
Now consider this post officially “wrapped up” (even if issue unresolved, thus leading to more and more inconvenient chaos, ad bias moshiach).
Oh brother, for the same reason that bochurim post series of entertaining vids all the time, how about something useful (even IF serious).
And even if =you= all don’t see a need for this, many others might very well refer to such vid’s preliminary to hotlines, were such vids made available.
In fact – maybe people who might not even bother with hotlines WOULD bother with quick “on-the-go” vids? What proof do you have otherwise?
As for the funding, the same gevirim who fund orgs., and shiurim, and yeshiva’s, might fund something like this l’shem mitzva, though it’s doubtful they visit this coffeeroom to even see this suggestion.
Now can we wrap this up, since it’s leading nowhere? Most things i’ve tried to point out usually lead nowhere, so i’ll just add this to the rest of the pack.
yitzchok, like maybe it could help avoid the need for =future= such discussions? And if not, so be it. I’m out of my depth.
Nope, i’ll only feel better when/if UJM and/or Chabad post an ongoing series of professional/brief vids on the above theme, not excluding the ratio of water in shabbos soap recipe. (or perhaps it should be called yom-tov-soap recipe).
I think more such unanswered Qs cropped up this Y”T, but i forget already what they were.
…More & more can be added to such series upon request sent to whomever-at-wherever-dot-com.
Its beyond ridiculous that thousands upon thousands learn & learn & learn, yet nobody offers such a vid-series as an enablement to avoid wasting time, and not have to bother various hotlines.
…Or even if not a vid-series, then a reliable keyword-searchable archive. I tried searching existing archives, which yielded zilch. In fact, search engines often yield better than internal searches of halacha sites.
Health, there we go again spouting “conspiracy theories” rather than accurately calling people “conspiracy analysts” or their analyses “conspiracy analysis”. It’s precisely the socialist/fascist mentality to cast ridicule by repetitively parroting the media’s socialist cliches. Repeat words often enough, then we’ll believe it IF we’re fools, but you can’t fool ALL of us ALL the time. You can’t fool Rabbi Dr. Esq. Smith, Dr.Zelenko, the Frontline doctors, Rabbi Asherov of Israel, and many more such.
How about let’s forget all “facts” because “facts” are always tweaked by bullies to fool majorities (Cuomo’s nursing home numbers being a case in point).
Let’s even not speak about all the untold deaths, whether debatable OR not. Rather ask – why now, at this time? What might be the future ulterior motives of the powers-that-be?
I consider this an “eis milchama” in that those whom G-d wishes to remain alive, are not dying, despite having contracted the unnatural Covid, or having taken suspicious vaxxes. And because it’s an eis milchama, these miracles are similar to the hidden or even open miracles experienced by some inmates during the Holocaust.
I feel the same holds true for whatever other plans they have in store, whether vaxx-related or economy-related. During the upcoming eis-milchama, miracles will come into play, hidden or otherwise. I mean, after all, Rav Kanievsky paskened, and it does say “tzaddik gozer v’Hashem m’kayem”, therefore the miracles. Otherwise it could turn out to be a Chillul Hashem, since most rabbonim followed suit.
P.S. Personally, unless i’m under duress and forced, I go by my gut-feelings based on observation, and also i go by my past experiences at the untender, unmerciful hands of the sickcare system. For example, if not for xyz podiatrist, i’d not now have a permanently swollen ankle plus worsened neuropathy, and if not for xyz phys.therapy, i’d not now have my left ring-finger puffed-up with worsened arthritis. And that’s just the TIP of iceberg (offered because they’re more easily relatable to). You better believe there’s WAY more.
commonsaychel, i beg to differ, life is always never-normal for one with severe varicose combined with neuropathy combined with spinal OA & scoliosis & CRPS & so much more which the unhealthcare system never fixes, but rather “mutcha’s” and even worsens. That’s aside from their decades-long suppression of genuine modalities.
I found this online, written by R’Moshe Feinstein:
My honorable friend, meḥutan, ha-Rav ha-Gaon, Moreinu ha-Rav Yeḥiel Yitzḥak Perr, shlit”a, Head of Mesivta Derekh Ayson, wishing you well. Regarding the question of the honor of his exalted Torah whether it is proper to add to a Tannaim the following language: “If after the marriage they [the couple] will separate, G-d forbid, the husband will not refrain from giving a get, and the woman will not refuse to accept it, when the specific Beit Din so orders.” By adding this addendum, the secular courts will force the two sides to listen to the Beit Din.Adding this is permitted and the get will not be a ‘forced get.’ It also has the benefit that
it will save her [the wife] from the chains of agunah.
It is advisable that he [the rav] meet with the groom and bride and get to know them well to determine whether such a clause might, G-d forbid, based on their nature cause any arguments or feuds be-tween them. His friend, Moshe Feinstein
P.S. The asterisks are mine.
I don’t think i ever made potato kugel in my life. Just Shabbos crockpot chicken and tri-color potatoes (surrounding a whole onion).
As for Pesach, before Y”T i make over 30 potato-veggie latkes which are YUM containing potato, sauteed onion/celery, turnip, carrots, parsnip, zucini. And on Shabbos-Pesach i keep the chicken-plus-latke, lidded-frying-pan, along with veg-soup pot, on the blech near the gas, though not above it.
IMO, R.W., i think you may be descended from Shevet Levi along with Dr.Zelenko, and Dr.Simone Gold, among others. And zachur latov are Dr.Shallenberger and Dr.Mercola, among others.
IMO the vaxx along with the “health” system are today’s main egel hazahav, alongside conspicuous-consumption and so-called “high-tech” – because if you want to see “compassionate” tech that’s been suppressed (as compared to today’s cold incompassionate tech utilized by the dark side), thriveon is releasing “thrive II” for Limited-time Free-viewing from 4/23 thru 5/2, upon registration.
Alot of the dark side’s machinations is being suppressed from mainstream, for example, i’d seen someone post a Hebrew-language site where there were numerous testimonials about the harm which was rendered them by the vaxx.
…But even if that were not the case, nobody knows for sure what future vaxx-related plans are in store for the public.
And alot of the good side is also being suppressed too – even if the false-media might label them snake oil.
Someone like me, who has endured the gauntlet of the unhealthcare system to the Nth degree, realizes how possible it is for such a corrupt system to be highly-tweakable to act as a trojan horse against The People.
I also learned from having been a human guinea pig, that many sophisticated-speaking, technically fact-filled people are blind.
Put simply & poetically:
Their “facts” turn them blind
And they become very unkind.
rightwriter, i’m with you, and for that matter, so is Rabbi Yitzchok Dovid Smith of passaicclarity. Posters love to spout the overused cliche “conspiracy theorist”. Well, that’s not quite the accurate terminology. More like “conspiracy analyst” is what you are. Chaval that so many in our circles squelch their instinct to sniff out a dead rat, and acknowledge that things are fishy.
“Come into my parlor” said the spider.
“Thanks so much for the invite!” gushed the fly.
“Come into our parlor” say Gates and Fauci.
[we wish to lull you by proving that vaxxes are harmless, even though y’all don’t know what our related plans are.]
“Thanks so much for saving us!” gush the pro-vaxxers.
…then at some future date – TRAPPED!
As for how it’s spread so quickly, I suggest using bitchute (or in general, avoid censorious youtube and mainstream engines) to research “5g covid”. Yes, you’ll see Icke, though if you can remain objective, and move the slider to approx. 50 or 52, the talk about 5G and Covid begins. Dr.Arthur Firstenberg’s book backs up the linkage between every new wireless frequency, and epidemics. (Dr.F had become irradiated by Xray, and was sick ever since.March 31, 2021 8:38 pm at 8:38 pm in reply to: Gebrok halacha? Liquids in Pesach Dip recipes (for matza) #1961608
Reb Eliezer, your YW gebroks link was duly noted, and there seemed to be controversy re: Rav Kaminetzky’s psak. I think society has tied itself up in so many knots its insane. If they’d tie themselves as much in knots over matters such as careless driving, conspicuous consumption, and thoughtlessness, as they do over these things, how different society would be. There are those who abstain from potato-starch and coffee and who knows what else. At this rate, they’ll soon be headed toward exclusively homemade matza, homemade grape-juice, water, salt, chicken, ersatz-fish, eggs, horseradish, nuts, potatoes, romaine. And nothing else, not even sugar, because some tzaddik or other will find something non-kosher about it. Well, to call a spade a spade, all i can say is holocaust victims lived on less!March 22, 2021 11:06 am at 11:06 am in reply to: Gebrok halacha? Liquids in Pesach Dip recipes (for matza) #1959550
ujm, about the sugary warm milk, yep that makes a bit more sense.
nishtday re: halacha, by dint of careful keyword searches, i’ve found helpful/reliable answers online over the years, which were less time-consuming than waiting a long time on a halacha line (which btw didn’t always resolve matters, to put it mildly). As for a rov, most of my life my dad answered my Qs, and also in the past, i think alot more answers were online as well as a great choice of AskTheRabbi options. My dad passed away a few years ago, and since then i sometimes ask the in-laws, but they’re ultra-busy and not always reachable. So next time you’re tempted to be judgmental, i gave you something to chew over a.k.a. farhehr.
As for switching over to non-gebrok, my dad didn’t have a problem, and agreed with it. And so we switched. He was never a kanoi, though. I know many people wipe off the romaine carefully, but i don’t have such memories of anyone in the extended family doing that at the seder. And if they did, i’m not the most alert person, so i wouldn’t have noticed. Funny how everyone is spelling it differently, gebrok, gebroch, gebrokst, and i’ve no idea what the root of it is, yet not the least curious either.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback and i guess that WRAPS IT UP, for me at least! Because i’ve LOADS of stuff to pull off for YT with my severely-deficient anatomy, and miles to go b4 i sleep.March 21, 2021 1:32 pm at 1:32 pm in reply to: Gebrok halacha? Liquids in Pesach Dip recipes (for matza) #1959303
ujm, no i didn’t hear about matza and milk, but it’s interesting. Especially that anyone would like that, unless maybe it’s choco-covered matza & milk!March 21, 2021 1:30 pm at 1:30 pm in reply to: Gebrok halacha? Liquids in Pesach Dip recipes (for matza) #1959302
Well, speak of minhag, as a child we ate gebrok, then a sib got married, and along with the newcomer came all sorts of complications.
Anyway, it occurred to me to check the mayo bottle itself, which =also= listed water as a main ingredient.
And if that’s the case, i’m using my dip on Shabbos Hagadol. I can understand not spreading chrein, because that obviously has a liquid texture within it. But my dip is an oily texture, there’s NO WAY it can leavenize my egg matza. So I choose logic, despite the many humans who choose complications. I even have my personal opinion regarding chukim (vis-a-vis today’s findings).
Leyzer, why not search online for “birthday party activities for kids”
and then you can adapt some of those for Chanuka.
Also maybe your wife can compose a type of Boggle, as in:
CHANUKA CHAGGLE BOGGLE
Then position words associated with Chanuka so they’re similar to Boggle, and have the kids find them. Such as:
Then to carry it a notch further, maybe gather all the words/names which your kids found, and write each on a separate piece of paper. Fold the papers & shuffle them. Each of your kids then picks one of the papers. For example, lets say Kid Ploni picks one which says “Shushan”, s/he can then pick a food beginning with “S” such as sushi or salad, which would be served as one of the dishes for supper the following week.
…and if Kid Almoni picks “Esther”, then s/he might choose for “E” either deviled Eggs or Eggplant-parmesan as one of the dishes she wants for a meal next week.
Health, i think its time to rephrase the “C” word more accurately, as follows. Most on y.w. appear to be leftist-conspiracy sympathizers, whereas you are (as Foster Gamble phrases it) a “conspiracy analyst”. As i said elsewhere in this forum, i can picture 1940s Jewish Hungarians labelling Eastern Europeans “conspiratists” when they came to warn them of the genocide happening in the east.
I’m a fan of the Rav Vosner Vaccine PDF, comprehensive and non-dictatorial.January 20, 2021 4:30 pm at 4:30 pm in reply to: Explain why you were sure Trump would get a second term even after the election. #1940780
With me it’s because R’Isser Weisberg and R’Mendel Kessin, each in his own way, sorta overlapped in their conclusions that Trump is the one chosen by G-d, and they’re convincing analysts of historical context of Torah. R’Weisberg quoted numerical figures, for example, that Yishmael was promised xxxx number of years of ownership of E”Y, but 100-or-so odd-years had been detracted from by various conquerors. So that exact number of odd-years had to be compensated to the Sar of Yishmoel in the 20th century.
(Search for “Mr. President the ball is in your court” because i don’t have a good memory, so best get it from original source. Then again, you probably won’t be interested, since there’s another admin. by now anyway.
Aren’t some of the jews (either in U.S. or Israel) who protest anti-semitism the most, also anti-religious, anti-Shabbos, anti-mila, anti-shechita, anti-kashrut, and Pro “other practices”?
The burden of proof is [supposed to be] on the accuser, even if there are many these days who seem to favor kangaroo methods. With that said, within the above quote that i posted, where does it state “go fight”? And what about the timing? In unadulterated, dry facts.January 19, 2021 9:45 pm at 9:45 pm in reply to: Frum Man Has “Credible Information” That Trump Will Remain President #1940437
There’s the matter of “even if a sword is resting on your throat, don’t despair, and yeshuas H’ k’heref ayin”. Also, not just the Goyish Prophets. Also R’ Isser Weisberg, and (to a degree) also R’ Mendel Kessin. Though neither used quite the wording in that audio, rather quoted from a Torah perspective.
I’m not surprised, because i heard sources (on radio and online) discussing a war taking place within the military, and that these past years, many arrests have been made on the quiet, and that the time will come when all will be made clear. On a tangent, there’s also the matter of what Resh Lakish predicted thousands of years ago, about a sun coming out of its hiding place “minartika” (etc.etc.) which actually jives with recent observations of Planet-X approaching.
Health, yw, and you better believe, all you say doesn’t surprise me.
My response is – firstly, everyone knows Trump shoots from the hip, and that his language is far from polished, which i can very much relate to, as i’m far from being the world’s most polished orator myself. I saw a transcript, and here’s the relevant cross-section:
But I said something’s wrong here. Something’s really wrong. Can’t have happened. And we fight. We fight like hell.
And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.
Our exciting adventures and boldest endeavors have not yet begun.
My fellow Americans, for our movement, for our children and for our beloved country, and I say this despite all that’s happened, the best is yet to come.
So we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’re going to the Capitol and we’re going to try and give — the Democrats are hopeless, they’re never voting for anything. Not even one vote — but we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I want to thank you all.
God bless you. And God bless America. Thank you all for being here. This is incredible. Thank you very much. Thank you.”
The way i interpret the above, is that he meant everyone should protest ORALLY with “gevald” in similar fashion as lib’s do, thereby giving Republicans the moral support to take back the country in a constitutional way.
If you and other lib’s choose to interpret it otherwise, that’s your opinion, but in any case, it’s an insult to imply that people within a crowd don’t have control over their own actions, such as refraining from violence, regardless of what they THINK the president meant.
Then, as others pointed out, there was the matter of timing, but i’m too bored to research that, so i’ll leave it to you to research the truth about when Trump used the above-pasted words, vis-a-vis when-and-where the storming of the capitol began. It’s enough i pasted the above section of the speech-transcript, and i believe the talk hosts i heard on radio to have said the truth about the timing.
As for the courts, from what i gather there have been rejections within courts, because there’s major corruption everywhere. Not because the lawsuits didn’t have constitutional validity.
P.S. taking into account that “lev melochim b’yad Hashem” – perhaps the president’s faux pas both with Covid, and also Jan.6, was middah kneged middah, wherein he stabbed the Kurds in the back, and also didn’t free Pollard sooner, and so he wound up stabbing himself in the back, thru his non-careful choice of words. Mind you, a true narcissist would have been VERY careful to never use wording like that, as they’re very deliberative, very premeditative about making themselves look good.
P.P.S. I wonder how many of those who label others “conspiratists” are of Hungarian heritage. Specifically, those Hungarians who scoffed when Eastern Europeans warned them of mass genocide. I can just picture the Eastern Europeans being labelled “conspiratists” too!
A potential scenario might be if those in the military who favor constitutionalism prevail over the non-constitutionalists within the military, and then would administer a temporary form of martial law to straighten everything out.
…with Moshiach as the main coordinator!
P.S. On a tangent, another foretold scenario, as foretold by Resh Lakish long ago, [could be Planet-X’s final approach, meting out tit-for-tat] – that’s using my own wording and speculation.
There’s also similarities with Netanyahu vs. the Israeli Leftists, Supreme Court, etc.
Syag, thanks for taking on ubiquitin’s response, as i couldn’t tackle it!
Smerel & Health, i seriously annoint both of you to preside over the Supreme Court. That would endow it with a burst of fresh air. When people have their minds set, they’re often set in stone. Never mind the timing of the crime, and never mind the gross election fraud. Never mind that the so-called facts of the “crime”, and the so-called “non-proof” of fraud wouldn’t hold up in a real court. They prefer that 2+2=5 be set in stone too, Orwellian-style.
As for “Everyone is considered innocent until proven guilty”, Eliezer, then why have you condemned Trump as a so-called Narc? If he were a true NPD, i seriously doubt his children would have turned out to be so full of zest, and such advocates of his. More likely, they’d have turned out resentful, submissive, or maladjusted in one way or another. You said your son has ADHD, so have you given thought to how he might have turned out, had he had Trump’s background?
I challenge y’all to debate Shapiro, Limbaugh, Levin and other conservatives on air. OK, so you’ll say you don’t get through, right?
Be that as it may, they’re intellectually analytical, and they dispute the claims of incitement.
Since libs are so fond of labelling people “conspiratist” perhaps its time the tables are turned, and =libs= are labelled conspiratists, for the so-called-incitement-to-violence claims against Trump. Limbaugh pointed out that [the lib media hardly ever, if at all, air the actual speech Trump made at the protest, and that’s because accusations in their own wording have more propagandist impact].
…not his precise wording, but the gist of it.
Shady Charedi, it may interest you to hear Rabbi Isser Weisberg’s video titled “Mr.President the ball is in your court”. You’re the rational one here, among many (not all) Mad Hatters, however well-versed they are at political, tech, and halachic jargon.
The reason truthful timelines would be hard to find may be due to, as you said, lib censorship. Such as for example, the squelching of that HCQ video by truth-speaking doctors.
A good number of the posters here have mindsets so similar to antifa, that i’d not be surprised if some of them are antifa or J.Street. Could be that something went awry in their past, such as trauma, certain influences, or whatever… I even sometimes wonder, however farfetched, if George Soros might not be a decades-long puppet of hypnotizers since WW2, chosen to be a fall-guy. As in novels by Nachman Seltzer. Fiction sometimes reflects reality.
I mean, if posters here had religious mindsets, wouldn’t they think more along the lines of “hevei mispallel b’shleimus shel malchus”? rather than openly speaking against Trump?? And i don’t mean just w/respect to the latest scenario, but even longer ago, when there was the ongoing war against Trump.
Truth tell, if anyone should be hate-filled, it’s me, and i am! I’ve many many reasons for that, most of which i won’t delve into. The most i’ll say for now, is that schools and the phony unhealthcare system are killers. And i hate them the way holocaust survivors hated nazi’s – the difference being that i’m getting zero reparations from the iconic Schenirer despite the irreversible health damage i incurred. Someone with my chronic unhealth should have never had to attend school, and which is why Rechnitz’ impassioned speech leaves me cold. (Trust me, his bleedin’ heart ain’t seen or felt nothin’ yet.)
But that doesn’t mean i can’t be objective about hotheads such as Trump, as the “least-worst” of the lot. With him “cancelled”, prepare for the rush to the abyss, it won’t be pretty.
Alway_Ask_Qs, you say ADHD isn’t much prevalent among presidents, but IMO, it sure is with Trump.
Reb Eliezer, more likely, Trump has been MISdiagnosed by spiteful biased others with an axe to grind. As for the rest of what you stated, did you take into account nurture (not just nature)? IMO, the reason many believe the media re: his so-called NPD, is due to a combo of his ADHD nature =and= Narc-Nurture. During his formative and prime years, he probably associated with a good number of true narcs, so its inevitable that it rubbed off, and he learned to mimick the sharks so as to be able to navigate them. (Like the story by Chaim Walder, about the boy in the [warsaw??] ghetto who learned to mimick nazi’s, and then actually enacted a nazi in real-life, thereby being able to help many fellow Jews. That was one fascinating story!
FYI, i’m acquainted with two ADHD people, both of whom are very much like Trump. Of course there are differences, such, that casual observers might not recognize the similarities. That’s because one is a chassidic teen boy who never learned much English, and the other is a conservative-Jewish woman who used to hobnob with rough/rowdy blue-collar types.
Both of them are tough cookies and behave alot like narcs (sounding off with self-focus, while not letting others get a word in edgewise, and frenzying when contradicted or interrupted, but they’re NOT true narcs as explained in my previous post). True narcs are calculating and deliberative, resorting to manipulations such as gaslighting, whereas ADHD’s tend to shoot from the hip instinctively or intuitively. People get easily deceived into judging people based on their cultural style, despite that their basic teva is really different than how their style makes them appear.
Finally, if you believe that “m’galglin zechus al y’dei zakai” – then shouldn’t you also believe that Trump, who pardoned Rubashkin, has a fair enough amount of “zakai” within him? And to pre-empt the “C” claim, i again emphasize that i don’t at all hold him responsible for the Covid, but rather consider him a victim of the machinations of the true Covid culprits, i.e. the Deep State and its henchmen.
All this doesn’t mean i’m not utterly upset by Trump AND rabbonim pushing the vaccine. Going along with Gates? For crying out loud.December 31, 2020 2:17 am at 2:17 am in reply to: President Trump Releases Jonathon Pollard From Parole to go to Israel #1933945
ujm, and Reb Eliezer, perhaps all that is beside the point. Perhaps a petition on behalf of a nirdaf is similar to a prayer, since it takes effort to compose same.
P.S. Reb Eliezer, if you believe in being dan l’kaf zechus, then read Kruse’ article at drjohnkruse. This isn’t to say Trump hasn’t had many flawed actions, such as vis-a-vis the Kurds, or not attending to the Pollards’ situation earlier. Nevertheless, anyone should realize that it’s been a vendetta against him from squat, whether Russia, impeachment, xenophobia.
IMO, the Deep State strategy for fast-tracking the vaccine was to PREMEDITATIVELY have all their bases covered, using Trump as scapegoat EITHER way. One flip of the coin was the story-line about “Xenophobic Racism” (as much as they shouted Russia Collusion). And they would have continued with that label forever, had he not caved in. And in the next phase of their premeditated plan, the other flip of the coin was the oh so pat story-line that Trump was responsible for the death of so many Americans with Covid. Which led to his fast-tracking the vax. The Deep State have mastered propaganda, as well as knowing how to manipulate peoples’ weaknesses.December 31, 2020 2:15 am at 2:15 am in reply to: President Trump Releases Jonathon Pollard From Parole to go to Israel #1933942
Reb Eliezer thanks for joining that petition on behalf of Pollard. I had duly noted that, despite our political differences.
I totally agree that Trump should have acted on Pollard earlier. I believe someone posed that to Rav Mendel Kessin quite awhile back, and i think he responded that who knows, that may be the reason why Trump is being so persecuted.
So many people have been rooting for the Pollards, that it’s about time they finally reached E”Y. Wishing Esther a speedy recovery!
Reb Eliezer, nope, not narcissim, because to somewhat quote John Kruse’ description of Trump, many people with ADHD, because of their distractibility, often jump quickly from one to another of their thoughts, fears, concerns and joys, and so, when they enter conversation with another person, they often feel intense pressure to articulate what they are thinking at the moment, because they know that their hold on any particular thought is tenuous, and as a result, they’re unable to step outside of this flow and remember some of the niceties of social discourse, which is why they are often perceived as self-absorbed, brusque, and inconsiderate because of the way they communicate.
Well, i’ve passed frum houses with solar light setups. So how do people work that out for Shabbos? By the way, don’t think this is a frivolous question. I need lighting. Not intended for “beauty”.
What i’d like most, is something online on this topic. Many times i’ve been frustrated at how little practical info is readily available online, so people can help themselves, no matter whether kashrus, or whatever. I really don’t feel comfortable calling rav’s or halacha hotlines. Been down that road plenty with these types of Qs, and suffice at that.
I think i should rephrase my Q a different way.
Do any of you have Solar lights along your driveways, walkways, etc., and if so, did your posek say that during Shabbos (daytime) it’s OK to walk past them, even if your shadow might be interpreted as “night-time” thus triggering them to turn on?
I’m not speaking of the neighborhood with all its camera’s and so forth. Rather, your own dwelling, where you yourself derive benefit from the lights.
Puriya cream & calmoseptine, are supposed to be good. MY BIL got relief smearing Aveeno anti-itch lotion on forehead (beige bottle & navyblue lid).
Also – apply aloe vera & cold-wet cloths. And alternate with oatmeal or naphtha soap.
Also mild diet, cutting citrus, spices, spices, sodium, alcohol, dehydrating environment, bright lights.
I once had the worst possible case of poison ivy, which causes similar symptoms, so i can relate. What had offered me some relief were Calamine, aveeno-lotion, cool baths & naphtha soap.December 14, 2020 1:18 am at 1:18 am in reply to: Toiveling basic George Foreman without cord getting wet? #1928320
Perhaps the same rabbi’s who arrange to sell chometz, can also arrange that, hmm?
Brother, how can a simple Q have turned into something so convoluted?
Some say to toivel, and some say “in a yoivel”
Some say Car-duffel, and some say Car-muffel
Let’s call the whole thing OFF! OK?December 8, 2020 4:11 pm at 4:11 pm in reply to: Toiveling basic George Foreman without cord getting wet? #1927155
P.S. I’m still showing KGN as the last poster on the NWO thread, even though that isn’t the actuality.December 8, 2020 4:10 pm at 4:10 pm in reply to: Toiveling basic George Foreman without cord getting wet? #1927154
This is confusing.
Are you saying that post-1927142 (and the one above it) are actually PM’s which are not publicly visible, even though they display to me on this thread? I absolutely never encountered this in my entire online experience, although i did once receive a PM which was not intended for me, but rather was the two moderators discussing my post to each other!December 8, 2020 11:21 am at 11:21 am in reply to: Toiveling basic George Foreman without cord getting wet? #1927008
On a tangent, is my response to the nwo post publicly Invisible? Because its visible to me, but my penname isn’t listed as the last poster in the thread-listing area.
Why is that? Is it a bug, or is it censorship – or what? I mean standard practice has usually been for moderators to PM people when their post is being deleted, along with a copy of the post. But what about if their post is invisible but they don’t know it?
We do not have a means of “pm-ing” posters when something gets deleted. We do, ocassionally, post it in ‘private mode’ which would be visible only to you but there would likely be a message inserted. I will check your post to see what is wrong.-29December 7, 2020 3:00 pm at 3:00 pm in reply to: Toiveling basic George Foreman without cord getting wet? #1926710
OK, thanks for the info, though i’ll try to avoid the cord getting wet. That’s OK according to halacha, so i was told by a rabbi.
Has it occurred to anyone here, including the OP, that people can agree with talk-radio on some aspects, but not on other aspects, such as vaccines? I am adamantly anti-vaxx, yet also adamantly believe in what so many of you call “conspiracy”. Many of you have bought into the Goebbel’s style of MSM propaganda, at the top of which are the terms “conspiracy/conspiratist”. Goebbel’s knew that if you repeat something often enough, people become programmed to believe it, even against their better judgment. Thus the term “conspiracy” which so many of you have swallowed hook, line & sinker.
After all, it has the connotation of “neb” or “wimp” doesn’t it? Hashem yeracheim, on anyone with the misfortune to be labelled conspiratist. Well, believe me, the public should be way less nervous of being labelled, than of becoming an actual physical puppet-slave of the propagandists. There are enough such slaves in China. The Chinese are the REAL neb’s, NOT those who are labelled “conspiratists”.
In fact, it’s because Avrohom Avinu’s mother decided to give birth to him in a cave, far from the corrupt Nimrod – it’s that – which enabled him to think for himself, against the tide of the times, and thus have a positive influence later on.
What confuses me about all this, though, is why both Trump and talk-radio hosts can simultaneously [purport to] be pro-vaccine, yet also imply their belief in a cabal/deep-state (…and/or whichever of the umpteen names its called)?
Because if they believe the latter, then shouldn’t they also believe that the deep-state, be it within Pfizer, Moderna, or whatever, are tweaking the vaccine toward their agenda?
P.S. I’m also adamantly at odds with BOTH the liberals’ AND conservatives’ ideas of healthcare utopia, having walked a disillusioning gauntlet of allopathic and alternative practitioners of all stripes. There is a much better way than either of their agenda’s, both in the health arena, and in the energy arena. So as far as i’m concerned, it’s not just Fake Media but also
Fake Medical, and also fake energy.
rightwriter, i’m with you, and here’s a poem i’m dedicating to the topic.
<i>Must i agree to tie my own noose?
I firmly believe in our right to choose,
and I don’t know how on earth we’d lose,
if only a critical mass would refuse!</i>
In Germany, what was legal was grossly immoral. Now’s no different. We need Meir Kahane A”H to stand front and center, and shout Never Again!