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Choosid, maybe so that yours truly can point out how the Chat GPT responses are so often pseudo-responses, and/or possibly sourced from the sitra achra. Thereby preventing the general public from being misguidedly dazzled. I’m only able to point out AI stupidities from the vantage point of my health experiences. Whereas, say, experienced lawyers are positioned do so from the vantage point of legal expertise, and so can Dayanim for that matter. Except Dayanim would probably stay far away from AI altogether!
Chat GPT, are you in any way affiliated with the sitra achra?
Ugh! That much salt, pepper & garlic in chulent buRRRRnnnnns me, no matter if the recipe is several times quadrupled. In fact, most peoples’ chulents disagree with me. Ditto re: their keeegels and kishkas. Ditto frozen brands. There are exceptions, of course.
So which exact cream or gel is most effective without being harmful? Please cite its UPC number, as well as controlled studies proving its efficacy. Note that silicone scar sheets have not helped me one iota, despite wearing them at least two months, and it’s been nearly three months since surgery. Also two separate hand therapists have not helped me, but rather proved non-therapeutic, as their massages and instructions only caused me bad pain and/or failed to help. In fact my finger still insists on reverting to a bent position. The more I follow the exercise-instructions given by the “experts”, the more painful, stiff and bent it becomes.
So much for all your responses, though I do note that you’re quite effusive with your apologies. Shall I thank you for that?
Here’s my followup points, and note that it was NOT appreciated that ChatGPT at times copped out and referred me elsewhere to YouTube & so forth for further research.
Re: ChatGPT’s glib responses to:
(2) That was a stupid, however jargony, answer, and also proof to me that a dybbuk was at play. It’s my strong opinion that dybbuk’s come from the side of unhelpfulness cloaked as pseudo-helpfulness (masked as brilliant jargon).
(4) That was an evasive answer and also proof to me that a dybbuk was at play.
(5) I’m sure that if this is responded to, the response will never be kept simple, but for all practical purposes, what the heck is the difference between bony growths, and “deposition of calcium salts in soft tissue”? And what the heck is their difference insofar as inhibiting body mobility?
(6) What a joke – I asked for “non-invasive” and ChatGPT gives me “invasive”. Has anyone here suffered the worst paper-cut imaginable? How would you respond to someone who insists on massaging your terribly-painful paper cut with a rough terry cloth for five to ten minutes straight? That’s EXACTLY how my scar has felt for nearly three months since surgery – like the worst paper-cut imaginable. And terrycloth-massage is EXACTLY what the “therapists” have been subjecting me to, resulting in painful inflammation. Certainly NOT healing.
…And the VERY UNHELPFUL ChatGPT (a.k.a. dybbuk emissary of sitra achra) duly quotes the primitive neanderthals of the one-size-fits-all system that everyone calls “healthcare”!
P.S. if i had the money and the means, I’d go to Florida where I know of at least one doctor who has the most advanced system I know of. And, most valuable of all, that doctor is endowed with Compassion, which is sorely lacking in most of the ahem current “healthcare” system, as well as in A.I.
The key point here is, I’d love to hear Rav Yaakov Moshe Hillel weigh in on this, bearing in mind the possibility that a dybbuk (or worse) is enabling Chat-GPT to sound very convincing and impressive to everyone. Note I haven’t yet seen it respond in a simple format which young people or simpler people can understand. I’ve mostly seen verbal gymnastics.
It has also not responded convincingly to my health questions (except for the one re: alcohol-tolerance which I already knew had been researched many years ago.) So there’s no “innovation” nor “rachamim”. Nor do i see it ever acquiring innovativeness or rachmanus, and formulating its answers in a way that’s rachmanusdik & innovative. Rather just a “faux-imitation” of innovativeness & rachamim which can fool many people. Pre-World-War Nazi’s were courteous too, but did they have TRUE rachamim (even way before the War)?
Out of idle curiosity – here’s some more challenging questions. Not that my Qs aren’t serious. They’re very serious. Rather, it’s because ChatGPT can’t be taken seriously that i call it “idle curiosity”.
(1) Can you please respond below each of the following questions (including the original questions when responding), and address the questions in a way that most English speakers can understand crystal-clearly, rather than interspersing the type of evasive phraseology used by doctors, lawyers and politicians?
(2) If Heberden nodules and bunionettes (a.k.a. tailor’s bunion) are actually both “bony growths”, then why have medical practitioners been trailed to confusingly call bony-growths on fingers “Heberden nodules”, and bony-growths at sides of pinky-toes “bunionettes” and “tailor’s bunion”?
(3) It’s known that laser shockwaves are used to treat gallstones, so is the reason something similarly non-invasive has never been researched for excruciatingly painful Heberden nodules and bunionettes, because barely any researchers have compassion on humanity, preferring instead to enter fields of research where the most money is offered? Or is it because they’re too narrowminded, thus it never occurs to them to apply themselves to neglected areas of research, due to the low publicity given to those issues?
(4) Alternatively, if a non-invasive yet effective methodology for treating Heberden nodules and bunionettes has actually been researched, can you please cite all the source(s) of research, and interpret them into clear language that most English speakers can truly understand, rather than the type of phraseology used by doctors, lawyers and politicians?
(5) What is the difference between “bony growths” and “calcifications”, and above all, are there photo’s and/or videos available online at no cost which very clearly demonstrate the difference, and if so, which search engine and keywords do I type in order to find those photo’s and/or videos?
(6) In a similar vein I’d like to know if non-invasive methods of treating painful, hardened, scar-tissue which forms beneath the skin after invasive surgery, have ever been researched?
P.S. If this forum would have allowed links, I’d have also asked for a link to any video demo of non-invasive methodologies, as video-demo’s are worth 1,000 words.
This reply is delayed, but i don’t recall getting eNotified this time around. Also been very busy, as is often the case.
“These answers did not provide me with more clarity”. They had just as much obfuscation as previously. ChatGPT mirrors politicians and lawyers, who are masters of jargon and (thereby) deceit. I also don’t overlook the likely possibility that sitra achra uses it as a medium for convincing everyone of its “truth”. Both thru the app, and also the humanlike robots (a.k.a. “digital-dybbuks”). Tucker Carlson was very forthright in putting out the vid. on aforesaid topic.
BTW, ChatGPT failed to provide links to sources which cite controlled studies associated with the questions i asked. Followed by interpretation of same into layman’s language. But hey, this forum doesn’t enable links. And so i remain unconvinced.
Generic Yid vs. Genetic Yid.
Voila – if indeed my Qs were responded to by ChatGPT – then I’m not impressed (except for the answers given about male-vs-female alcohol tolerance.) But i suspected it would be that way, because the latter has already been researched so it makes sense that the alcohol-tolerance info is retrievable from within the vast cloud, whereas all my other questions, it never occurred to them to research.
None of the other responses gave sources of research-done, so i don’t buy it. And for that matter, even the alcohol-tolerance response didn’t include sources.
Then again, I forgot to request sources. But would it have provided same, had i asked? BTW i requested that it be straightforward and non-evasive, but its wishy-washy responses reminded me of politicians’ evasiveness.
Hmm…so I can truly ask ANYTHING? Well then, how about these, which i doubt anyone ever had interest investigating, as they’d find it boring. And which is why these ought to test the true mettle of ChatGPT.
To ChatGPT – can you please answer the below questions as non-evasively, briefly and simply as possible?
Is diabetes (high blood sugar) genetic in a direct way, or rather, indirectly caused by having fewer tastebuds which can discern if a person is eating something overly sweet?
Also, are people with high blood sugar less adversely affected than the general populace by eating overly spicy, salty, bitter, and sour foods? If so, is that due to their blood sugar balancing out those extreme tastes?
Also can high-arginine diets cause headaches, flu and more in a subset of people? If so, which?
Also, which is most efficient at healing the human body – the combination of electric-pulses plus stem-cells? Or chemicals plus stem-cells? Or scalar waves? And is there any other method which is even more efficient?
Also, I once read that there’s three factors which cause males to have more alcohol-tolerance than females. Firstly because they have more extracellular-water. Secondly because they have [more] of a certain hormone, though i forget which. And I forget the third factor. Can you please remind me of the name of the hormone, as well as the third factor?
Finally, if the quicksand-style mud from the En Fashcha area of the Dead Sea (or any other genuine-quicksand locale) were to be transferred to a 4-foot deep hole in someone’s Brooklyn backyard in the U.S., would it still retain its drawing qualities?
To ChatGPT – you stated as follows:
Idolatry and artificial art: You refer to a biblical passage etc.
Other pressing concerns: You list several other issues, etc.
Question: Who is the “You” whom you, ChatGPT, are addressing in the above paragraphs?
And is there by any chance a dybbuk (or some such) communicating through you? In other words, are you just a front with some other entity pulling your strings?
Neville you asked (above) “when did i romanticize the 60s?”
hark back to page 1:
QUOTE: With all due respect, what was called “Orthodox” in your youth was just a misnomer. There were shuls without mechitzas that identified as Orthodox in the 50s/60s. That’s not an era that we should be romanticizing.
and so i responded to that:
“I for one don’t romanticize any era, because I see the shtick that goes on these days too. yada yada”
On 2nd thought – oh for simpler days when 4 bucks could buy you a case of 4oz. snack-bags rather than a measly bag of 4oz. snacks. Though I don’t even recall for sure if there were 4oz. snack-bags back then! And no AI (which even makes IT guys’ blood run cold) and no GPS which misguidedly directs cars to wrong sides of big buildings.
P.S. to the last poster, i like aged interfaces, depending how they were designed when they were “young”. I never liked the YW interface from squat, least of all its limitations, but also i’ve barely anything in common with most people online and off. BTW i do =not= like aged-wine or aged-cheese nor young-wine or young-cheese.
Whatever… just surprised i hadn’t seen that particular angle discussed. Or maybe it was. Its been many years since i was on the subway, but even way back then, i remember shrinking into myself, trying to remain as inconspicuous as possible whenever boisterously loud/wild teens would enter my car. V’hameivin yavin.
Neville, firstly thanks for confirming what i’ve suspected these past years. Now in one of your 1st posts on this extensive thread, you mentioned the romanticizing of the 50s/60s era. I for one don’t romanticize any era, because I see the shtick that goes on these days too. The only thing i’ve romanticized all along (and which is barely found) is:
(1) the attribute of speaking simply & concisely to-the-point (with kind intent), rather than sophisticated jargon penned by non-empaths
(2) the attribute of true empathy, and that includes being an enabler rather than a suppressor. So for example, Zetruth hit the nail on the head when stating “why cant we find an option here to edit/delete our posts and accounts”.
Just like designers of houses and vehicles can make/or/break people depending upon how compassionate their designs are, the same goes for programmers.
Edited – sorry no links
I believe i’m repeating myself in so many different words. But to all who commented regarding appendages: You may have heard of the expression “a naar tuhr men nit veizen di halba arbit”. You only see what you see in 2021. You don’t see the potential which is being suppressed due to the decoy/smokescreen of “impressive-functioning” robotics. So yes, it is like the tower of babel, modern-version. Is it truly your belief system that robotics are superior to human-seeds and fruit-seeds which were created by G-d? And, come to think of it, if robotic appendages had been put on beef and chicken, would that render them kosher? (I’m also curious – if stem cells would totally heal a chicken whose foot was amputated – would that render the chicken kosher?) BTW, moderator, where’s the post I composed a few days ago? Worried that your sponsors will back out if my health topic would be posted? So y’all are yet another Twitter, FB, etc. and you can tell your sponsors that those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones at Twitter, only posting whatever fits in with =your= agendas.
You got that right – get with the program, Yserbius! Get with the more natural program, combined with tech that follows the non-aggression principle (A.K.A. “ma d’alach sanui etc.etc.”) You may retort “but i like robotic appendages, so ‘ma d’alach sanui’ doesn’t apply.” Well, if you’d research the pro’s and con’s of such appendages compared to other methods, including suppressed ones, AND you were hypothetically in the parsha, cholila, that’s when you’d be in the position to decide which best follows the non-aggression principle.
Setting my timer……………….”huh?”
Mortal, how about I take your title a step further by saying:
“I’m considered anti the entire system of U.S.A. (Unhealthcare Sickcare-of America).”
…I’m considered pro genuine health innovations such as stem-cell tech. The latter partners with G-d’s creation, as compared to robotic appendages, AI, or chip implantation, which are the modern equivalent of the Dor Haflaga.
Thumbs-Up to rightwriter. Dr. Zelenko called the vaccines Zyklon B, when interviewed by Dr. Mercola. Also in that video, or was it a different vid., a former top guy who quit Pfizer challenged the false propaganda, because even when a “variant” varies by as much as 20-percent, there’s still supposed to be immunity once you’re vaccinated. [i.e. that’s how it works with other vaccines]
Here’s an innovative method of pushback:
YWN contacts Tofutti. Tell Tofutti to formulate THE most yummy Pareve Simulation of Chunky-Monkey. And then… even improve on that simulation (taste-test loads of people)
BETTER THAN BOYCOTT & JERRCOTT
Bring on the newsmen with the lure of free-samples. Publicize that Tofutti is exporting XXXXXX pints to Israeli West Bank and East Jerusalem, for sale at Cost Price.
Simultaneously market it to Americans, stating:
What’s BETTER THAN BOYCOTT & JERRCOTT?
Why, when it’s shipped to East Jerusalem for sale at Cost Price!
……when it’s the most AHH!! stuff from here to the West Bank & beyond!
Do those statistics you cited include the percentages among the casualties who were, say, shomer shabbat, atheists, leftists etc.? (Just curious.) I previously failed to mention that the kids whom i cited running without railings, were from “ultra” charedi families, every last one of them. Possibly their dati status provided extra zechuyot? Don’t get me wrong, my own level of religiosity is probably a far cry from those kids’ families, so consider this an objective perspective.
Now, as to what you said about relying on miracles – i didn’t say that we should rely on miracles, rather, I said it’s currently inadvisable to rely on miracles anymore. That comment was intended for those who are by nature careless/reckless (no matter how many past teachers taught them they’re not supposed to rely on miracles).
Another way of putting it, is “shomer psayim H’ – because (during “normal” times) it’s a given that a good number of people are reckless. So G-d sends out guardian angels made-to-order for such types. However, during times of Middas Hadin, perhaps even the psayim may have less protection. Like maybe the mechablim overwhelm the protective malachim, or alternatively, an absenteeism of protective malachim.
That’s why i said it’s currently inadvisable to be somech al haneis.
P.S. Sorry I didn’t clarify clearly what i meant by “infantile generation”. What i meant was, it’s as if G-d is saying, “Enough! By now you all need to learn not to be reckless and expect to be bailed out. Being reckless is a form of Not Being Noheg Kavod Zeh Lozeh! So no more bailouts. You all have to learn to respect each other, both verbally and physically, or live with the consequences. Nomore quick-words, and nomore reckless-moves.”
I should emphasize – I didn’t mean Meron “per se” or Givat Zev “per se” (because both were involuntary insofar as the attendees, not necessarily the organizers). Rather i mean that what happened there may be symbolic of the =biggest= reason for the G-d’s anger, which would be kavod habrios – not necessarily tznius-issues, or excess-gashmius. I hope i clarified myself.
In this instance i wouldn’t be quick to judge, because i read there was suspicious wetness on the metal ramp which created an abnormal slippery situation. Even in normal circumstances, people make missteps. So i wouldn’t judge them regarding “pushing or shoving”.
But now especially, after finding out about the Givat Zev bleachers tragedy, we must start analyzing the “metaphysical” aspect of all this, namely, that the special “shemirah” is now being withheld, and thus it’s currently inadvisable to be “somech al ha’neis” anymore.
See, as far back as decades ago, i used to witness ongoing open miracles in Israel, where little kids, sans adult supervision, would be recklessly running on stone walls which had no railings, coupled with sheer drops to concrete way below. Yet they all remained unscathed! Having witnessed such scenes ongoingly, I have ZERO doubt, that zillions of malachim have been constantly vigilant to guard the many happy-go-lucky people in Israel. As in “shomer psayim Hashem”.
Without a doubt, malachim have also worked overtime during every PAST Lag B’Omer in Meron. And that’s why the world hasn’t heard of such tragedies previously.
I mean, think about it. Isn’t it uncanny that a similar incident took place in Givat Zev so soon after Meron? How many numerous times have dense charedi crowds used bleachers in the past – ones which also probably weren’t built too well?
…And isn’t it uncanny that suddenly, the Iron Dome became so “overwhelmed”?
Do you really really think the aforesaid malachim couldn’t have mopped up the slippery wetness at Meron AND also prevented the people from toppling on each other? I myself had a miracle happen one Friday in Israel, when visiting Hebrew University, which me & my mother became aware was a near ghost town. Every which way we went trying to exit, was locked. I panicked, realizing it was soon Shabbos, so I scurried down the hall peeking into classrooms, then eventually found a chossid at a shtender inside one of the rooms, who seemed to be davening. He didn’t say a word, just motioned to me to wait, and eventually he led us, as well as a lost backpacker down a stationary escalator to a concrete platform, where we saw the Egged bus approaching. During all that time, he never said a word, just walked ahead of us, and we followed with sighs of relief. I’m sure that was Eliyahu Hanavi making sure we got back in time for Shabbos, because why on earth would a chossid be in an abandoned university in East Jerusalem on a Friday?
In summation, there’s times filled with open miracles, other times containing hidden miracles, and finally (such as many current happenings), the withholding of shemirah.
To AAQ: Since you brought up “health” note that I personally have been the least focused on Covid of anyone, since the entire thing started. I always skip over articles about same, as i’m focused on my own chronic issues (which are probably mutually exclusive to Covid) and which have never been of concern to anyone else, least of all the suppressive unhealthcare system.
(Just giving you some background, as its beyond the scope of this discussion.)
Which leads up to “why” i didn’t have in mind so much the Covid factor, as much as the jostling-crowd-factor unsafety factor. In other words, I get just as much the creeps from motorized-bikes mowing people down in the U.S. (and all sorts of stuff like that) as I’d be if i lived in Israel and knew that a relative was headed to the huge jostling crowds of Meron. It was a known fact every year that the crowds at Meron were scary (just research past chatter, especially by people who lived in the vicinity). i distinctly remember reading such chatter in the past, and you better believe i wouldn’t remember it if it hadn’t given me the chills when i read it.
Rebeli, Aryeh Deri, MK, mentioned in the news prior to and post-tragedy.
I didn’t mean that hospitals should release info. There are plenty of other channels on the www. There are private websites, blogs and forums all over the place, which can relay info via the grapevine. It happens all the time at warp speed. BTW, people in today’s times have been ongoingly conditioned to think that emotional pain is the worst of the worst. But that’s so far from the truth, because severe physical issues impact emotions as well. I mean, how many people even give a thought to vets in VA hospitals, or to those crippled by various Intifadas? But forever they have in mind Sept/11 and the same is with Meron/21. But not so much the living korbonos, rather the non-living korbonos, with exceptions such as Rav Lau.
To the OP – Actually? I think among the BIGGEST korbon’s in this tragedy are Aryeh Deri, and the organizers of the event. How Deri must feel, is beyond what I can fathom, way worse than when he was imprisoned. Somewhat like that guy in the Modiin region who chauffered a neighbor’s child in hot weather, and forgot he was in the car.
The crazy thing is, Deri had not even wanted to be in the knesset after he was imprisoned – they begged him. I wonder if there’s a support group for people like that. That’s probably why Rav Shteinman was so adamant about a toned-down levaya.
I’m sure he very much remembered what happened at Rav Wosner’s levaya.
So many people are attributing the tragedy to things like tzniut, talking in shul etc. I’m not saying those aren’t factors. What i am saying is that the most obvious which may be less talked about is: This is an immature, infantile generation, which doesn’t look before it leaps. Doesn’t think before it acts. Isn’t roeh es hanolad, to think of the outcome of every one of its actions. For example, that giving kids motorized bikes and letting them drive recklessly, is lots of excruciating irreversible pain waiting to happen to the victims they knock down.
“eizeh hu chacham haroeh es hanolad”. That represents rightwirter. Yet on the other hand, miracles are occurring even as i speak, and likewise, will occur on such dates they have planned to let loose various pandoras boxes. As i said “tzadik gazar”.
From my personal perspective, between me, myself and i, i frankly don’t know what’s worse, my severely painful ailments or Covid. And the two may even be mutually exclusive. After all, there was that woman in Israel who’d been disabled for decades by a virus, yet Covid cured her.
That’s what i mean by mutually exclusive! See, even inside the human anatomy EIN SHNEI MELOCHIM MESHAMSHIM B’KESER ECHAD! So maybe if i’d get Covid, i’d finally get some pain relief.
Angry? More like frustrated at the inconvenient chaos, never mind that there’s millions of young able-bodied talent, unlike in the past.
Now consider this post officially “wrapped up” (even if issue unresolved, thus leading to more and more inconvenient chaos, ad bias moshiach).
Oh brother, for the same reason that bochurim post series of entertaining vids all the time, how about something useful (even IF serious).
And even if =you= all don’t see a need for this, many others might very well refer to such vid’s preliminary to hotlines, were such vids made available.
In fact – maybe people who might not even bother with hotlines WOULD bother with quick “on-the-go” vids? What proof do you have otherwise?
As for the funding, the same gevirim who fund orgs., and shiurim, and yeshiva’s, might fund something like this l’shem mitzva, though it’s doubtful they visit this coffeeroom to even see this suggestion.
Now can we wrap this up, since it’s leading nowhere? Most things i’ve tried to point out usually lead nowhere, so i’ll just add this to the rest of the pack.
yitzchok, like maybe it could help avoid the need for =future= such discussions? And if not, so be it. I’m out of my depth.
Nope, i’ll only feel better when/if UJM and/or Chabad post an ongoing series of professional/brief vids on the above theme, not excluding the ratio of water in shabbos soap recipe. (or perhaps it should be called yom-tov-soap recipe).
I think more such unanswered Qs cropped up this Y”T, but i forget already what they were.
…More & more can be added to such series upon request sent to whomever-at-wherever-dot-com.
Its beyond ridiculous that thousands upon thousands learn & learn & learn, yet nobody offers such a vid-series as an enablement to avoid wasting time, and not have to bother various hotlines.
…Or even if not a vid-series, then a reliable keyword-searchable archive. I tried searching existing archives, which yielded zilch. In fact, search engines often yield better than internal searches of halacha sites.
Health, there we go again spouting “conspiracy theories” rather than accurately calling people “conspiracy analysts” or their analyses “conspiracy analysis”. It’s precisely the socialist/fascist mentality to cast ridicule by repetitively parroting the media’s socialist cliches. Repeat words often enough, then we’ll believe it IF we’re fools, but you can’t fool ALL of us ALL the time. You can’t fool Rabbi Dr. Esq. Smith, Dr.Zelenko, the Frontline doctors, Rabbi Asherov of Israel, and many more such.
How about let’s forget all “facts” because “facts” are always tweaked by bullies to fool majorities (Cuomo’s nursing home numbers being a case in point).
Let’s even not speak about all the untold deaths, whether debatable OR not. Rather ask – why now, at this time? What might be the future ulterior motives of the powers-that-be?
I consider this an “eis milchama” in that those whom G-d wishes to remain alive, are not dying, despite having contracted the unnatural Covid, or having taken suspicious vaxxes. And because it’s an eis milchama, these miracles are similar to the hidden or even open miracles experienced by some inmates during the Holocaust.
I feel the same holds true for whatever other plans they have in store, whether vaxx-related or economy-related. During the upcoming eis-milchama, miracles will come into play, hidden or otherwise. I mean, after all, Rav Kanievsky paskened, and it does say “tzaddik gozer v’Hashem m’kayem”, therefore the miracles. Otherwise it could turn out to be a Chillul Hashem, since most rabbonim followed suit.
P.S. Personally, unless i’m under duress and forced, I go by my gut-feelings based on observation, and also i go by my past experiences at the untender, unmerciful hands of the sickcare system. For example, if not for xyz podiatrist, i’d not now have a permanently swollen ankle plus worsened neuropathy, and if not for xyz phys.therapy, i’d not now have my left ring-finger puffed-up with worsened arthritis. And that’s just the TIP of iceberg (offered because they’re more easily relatable to). You better believe there’s WAY more.
commonsaychel, i beg to differ, life is always never-normal for one with severe varicose combined with neuropathy combined with spinal OA & scoliosis & CRPS & so much more which the unhealthcare system never fixes, but rather “mutcha’s” and even worsens. That’s aside from their decades-long suppression of genuine modalities.
I found this online, written by R’Moshe Feinstein:
My honorable friend, meḥutan, ha-Rav ha-Gaon, Moreinu ha-Rav Yeḥiel Yitzḥak Perr, shlit”a, Head of Mesivta Derekh Ayson, wishing you well. Regarding the question of the honor of his exalted Torah whether it is proper to add to a Tannaim the following language: “If after the marriage they [the couple] will separate, G-d forbid, the husband will not refrain from giving a get, and the woman will not refuse to accept it, when the specific Beit Din so orders.” By adding this addendum, the secular courts will force the two sides to listen to the Beit Din.Adding this is permitted and the get will not be a ‘forced get.’ It also has the benefit that
it will save her [the wife] from the chains of agunah.
It is advisable that he [the rav] meet with the groom and bride and get to know them well to determine whether such a clause might, G-d forbid, based on their nature cause any arguments or feuds be-tween them. His friend, Moshe Feinstein
P.S. The asterisks are mine.
I don’t think i ever made potato kugel in my life. Just Shabbos crockpot chicken and tri-color potatoes (surrounding a whole onion).
As for Pesach, before Y”T i make over 30 potato-veggie latkes which are YUM containing potato, sauteed onion/celery, turnip, carrots, parsnip, zucini. And on Shabbos-Pesach i keep the chicken-plus-latke, lidded-frying-pan, along with veg-soup pot, on the blech near the gas, though not above it.
IMO, R.W., i think you may be descended from Shevet Levi along with Dr.Zelenko, and Dr.Simone Gold, among others. And zachur latov are Dr.Shallenberger and Dr.Mercola, among others.
IMO the vaxx along with the “health” system are today’s main egel hazahav, alongside conspicuous-consumption and so-called “high-tech” – because if you want to see “compassionate” tech that’s been suppressed (as compared to today’s cold incompassionate tech utilized by the dark side), thriveon is releasing “thrive II” for Limited-time Free-viewing from 4/23 thru 5/2, upon registration.
Alot of the dark side’s machinations is being suppressed from mainstream, for example, i’d seen someone post a Hebrew-language site where there were numerous testimonials about the harm which was rendered them by the vaxx.
…But even if that were not the case, nobody knows for sure what future vaxx-related plans are in store for the public.
And alot of the good side is also being suppressed too – even if the false-media might label them snake oil.
Someone like me, who has endured the gauntlet of the unhealthcare system to the Nth degree, realizes how possible it is for such a corrupt system to be highly-tweakable to act as a trojan horse against The People.
I also learned from having been a human guinea pig, that many sophisticated-speaking, technically fact-filled people are blind.
Put simply & poetically:
Their “facts” turn them blind
And they become very unkind.
rightwriter, i’m with you, and for that matter, so is Rabbi Yitzchok Dovid Smith of passaicclarity. Posters love to spout the overused cliche “conspiracy theorist”. Well, that’s not quite the accurate terminology. More like “conspiracy analyst” is what you are. Chaval that so many in our circles squelch their instinct to sniff out a dead rat, and acknowledge that things are fishy.
“Come into my parlor” said the spider.
“Thanks so much for the invite!” gushed the fly.
“Come into our parlor” say Gates and Fauci.
[we wish to lull you by proving that vaxxes are harmless, even though y’all don’t know what our related plans are.]
“Thanks so much for saving us!” gush the pro-vaxxers.
…then at some future date – TRAPPED!
As for how it’s spread so quickly, I suggest using bitchute (or in general, avoid censorious youtube and mainstream engines) to research “5g covid”. Yes, you’ll see Icke, though if you can remain objective, and move the slider to approx. 50 or 52, the talk about 5G and Covid begins. Dr.Arthur Firstenberg’s book backs up the linkage between every new wireless frequency, and epidemics. (Dr.F had become irradiated by Xray, and was sick ever since.March 31, 2021 8:38 pm at 8:38 pm in reply to: Gebrok halacha? Liquids in Pesach Dip recipes (for matza) #1961608
Reb Eliezer, your YW gebroks link was duly noted, and there seemed to be controversy re: Rav Kaminetzky’s psak. I think society has tied itself up in so many knots its insane. If they’d tie themselves as much in knots over matters such as careless driving, conspicuous consumption, and thoughtlessness, as they do over these things, how different society would be. There are those who abstain from potato-starch and coffee and who knows what else. At this rate, they’ll soon be headed toward exclusively homemade matza, homemade grape-juice, water, salt, chicken, ersatz-fish, eggs, horseradish, nuts, potatoes, romaine. And nothing else, not even sugar, because some tzaddik or other will find something non-kosher about it. Well, to call a spade a spade, all i can say is holocaust victims lived on less!March 22, 2021 11:06 am at 11:06 am in reply to: Gebrok halacha? Liquids in Pesach Dip recipes (for matza) #1959550
ujm, about the sugary warm milk, yep that makes a bit more sense.
nishtday re: halacha, by dint of careful keyword searches, i’ve found helpful/reliable answers online over the years, which were less time-consuming than waiting a long time on a halacha line (which btw didn’t always resolve matters, to put it mildly). As for a rov, most of my life my dad answered my Qs, and also in the past, i think alot more answers were online as well as a great choice of AskTheRabbi options. My dad passed away a few years ago, and since then i sometimes ask the in-laws, but they’re ultra-busy and not always reachable. So next time you’re tempted to be judgmental, i gave you something to chew over a.k.a. farhehr.
As for switching over to non-gebrok, my dad didn’t have a problem, and agreed with it. And so we switched. He was never a kanoi, though. I know many people wipe off the romaine carefully, but i don’t have such memories of anyone in the extended family doing that at the seder. And if they did, i’m not the most alert person, so i wouldn’t have noticed. Funny how everyone is spelling it differently, gebrok, gebroch, gebrokst, and i’ve no idea what the root of it is, yet not the least curious either.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback and i guess that WRAPS IT UP, for me at least! Because i’ve LOADS of stuff to pull off for YT with my severely-deficient anatomy, and miles to go b4 i sleep.March 21, 2021 1:32 pm at 1:32 pm in reply to: Gebrok halacha? Liquids in Pesach Dip recipes (for matza) #1959303
ujm, no i didn’t hear about matza and milk, but it’s interesting. Especially that anyone would like that, unless maybe it’s choco-covered matza & milk!March 21, 2021 1:30 pm at 1:30 pm in reply to: Gebrok halacha? Liquids in Pesach Dip recipes (for matza) #1959302
Well, speak of minhag, as a child we ate gebrok, then a sib got married, and along with the newcomer came all sorts of complications.
Anyway, it occurred to me to check the mayo bottle itself, which =also= listed water as a main ingredient.
And if that’s the case, i’m using my dip on Shabbos Hagadol. I can understand not spreading chrein, because that obviously has a liquid texture within it. But my dip is an oily texture, there’s NO WAY it can leavenize my egg matza. So I choose logic, despite the many humans who choose complications. I even have my personal opinion regarding chukim (vis-a-vis today’s findings).
Leyzer, why not search online for “birthday party activities for kids”
and then you can adapt some of those for Chanuka.
Also maybe your wife can compose a type of Boggle, as in:
CHANUKA CHAGGLE BOGGLE
Then position words associated with Chanuka so they’re similar to Boggle, and have the kids find them. Such as:
Then to carry it a notch further, maybe gather all the words/names which your kids found, and write each on a separate piece of paper. Fold the papers & shuffle them. Each of your kids then picks one of the papers. For example, lets say Kid Ploni picks one which says “Shushan”, s/he can then pick a food beginning with “S” such as sushi or salad, which would be served as one of the dishes for supper the following week.
…and if Kid Almoni picks “Esther”, then s/he might choose for “E” either deviled Eggs or Eggplant-parmesan as one of the dishes she wants for a meal next week.
Health, i think its time to rephrase the “C” word more accurately, as follows. Most on y.w. appear to be leftist-conspiracy sympathizers, whereas you are (as Foster Gamble phrases it) a “conspiracy analyst”. As i said elsewhere in this forum, i can picture 1940s Jewish Hungarians labelling Eastern Europeans “conspiratists” when they came to warn them of the genocide happening in the east.
I’m a fan of the Rav Vosner Vaccine PDF, comprehensive and non-dictatorial.January 20, 2021 4:30 pm at 4:30 pm in reply to: Explain why you were sure Trump would get a second term even after the election. #1940780
With me it’s because R’Isser Weisberg and R’Mendel Kessin, each in his own way, sorta overlapped in their conclusions that Trump is the one chosen by G-d, and they’re convincing analysts of historical context of Torah. R’Weisberg quoted numerical figures, for example, that Yishmael was promised xxxx number of years of ownership of E”Y, but 100-or-so odd-years had been detracted from by various conquerors. So that exact number of odd-years had to be compensated to the Sar of Yishmoel in the 20th century.
(Search for “Mr. President the ball is in your court” because i don’t have a good memory, so best get it from original source. Then again, you probably won’t be interested, since there’s another admin. by now anyway.
Aren’t some of the jews (either in U.S. or Israel) who protest anti-semitism the most, also anti-religious, anti-Shabbos, anti-mila, anti-shechita, anti-kashrut, and Pro “other practices”?
The burden of proof is [supposed to be] on the accuser, even if there are many these days who seem to favor kangaroo methods. With that said, within the above quote that i posted, where does it state “go fight”? And what about the timing? In unadulterated, dry facts.January 19, 2021 9:45 pm at 9:45 pm in reply to: Frum Man Has “Credible Information” That Trump Will Remain President #1940437
There’s the matter of “even if a sword is resting on your throat, don’t despair, and yeshuas H’ k’heref ayin”. Also, not just the Goyish Prophets. Also R’ Isser Weisberg, and (to a degree) also R’ Mendel Kessin. Though neither used quite the wording in that audio, rather quoted from a Torah perspective.
I’m not surprised, because i heard sources (on radio and online) discussing a war taking place within the military, and that these past years, many arrests have been made on the quiet, and that the time will come when all will be made clear. On a tangent, there’s also the matter of what Resh Lakish predicted thousands of years ago, about a sun coming out of its hiding place “minartika” (etc.etc.) which actually jives with recent observations of Planet-X approaching.
Health, yw, and you better believe, all you say doesn’t surprise me.
My response is – firstly, everyone knows Trump shoots from the hip, and that his language is far from polished, which i can very much relate to, as i’m far from being the world’s most polished orator myself. I saw a transcript, and here’s the relevant cross-section:
But I said something’s wrong here. Something’s really wrong. Can’t have happened. And we fight. We fight like hell.
And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.
Our exciting adventures and boldest endeavors have not yet begun.
My fellow Americans, for our movement, for our children and for our beloved country, and I say this despite all that’s happened, the best is yet to come.
So we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’re going to the Capitol and we’re going to try and give — the Democrats are hopeless, they’re never voting for anything. Not even one vote — but we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I want to thank you all.
God bless you. And God bless America. Thank you all for being here. This is incredible. Thank you very much. Thank you.”
The way i interpret the above, is that he meant everyone should protest ORALLY with “gevald” in similar fashion as lib’s do, thereby giving Republicans the moral support to take back the country in a constitutional way.
If you and other lib’s choose to interpret it otherwise, that’s your opinion, but in any case, it’s an insult to imply that people within a crowd don’t have control over their own actions, such as refraining from violence, regardless of what they THINK the president meant.
Then, as others pointed out, there was the matter of timing, but i’m too bored to research that, so i’ll leave it to you to research the truth about when Trump used the above-pasted words, vis-a-vis when-and-where the storming of the capitol began. It’s enough i pasted the above section of the speech-transcript, and i believe the talk hosts i heard on radio to have said the truth about the timing.
As for the courts, from what i gather there have been rejections within courts, because there’s major corruption everywhere. Not because the lawsuits didn’t have constitutional validity.
P.S. taking into account that “lev melochim b’yad Hashem” – perhaps the president’s faux pas both with Covid, and also Jan.6, was middah kneged middah, wherein he stabbed the Kurds in the back, and also didn’t free Pollard sooner, and so he wound up stabbing himself in the back, thru his non-careful choice of words. Mind you, a true narcissist would have been VERY careful to never use wording like that, as they’re very deliberative, very premeditative about making themselves look good.
P.P.S. I wonder how many of those who label others “conspiratists” are of Hungarian heritage. Specifically, those Hungarians who scoffed when Eastern Europeans warned them of mass genocide. I can just picture the Eastern Europeans being labelled “conspiratists” too!