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anonymous JewParticipant
Joseph, what studies can you cite that document the ” the significant disparities between boys versus girls ” ?
Or is it your personal opinion?
Ironically, it’s the Boomer generation that started this trend as they had the education and wealth to be able to send their sons and daughters to learn in Israel. I don’t see how their grandchildren ,those having chosen the Lakewood kolel lifestyle, will be able to afford sending 5+ kids to Israel ( tuition, airfare, food etc). Will they have to settle for a “lower” level of learning ( as per Joseph )?anonymous JewParticipantDaas Yachid, I think your missing the point. Anyone is entitled to request a seat change. But they are not entitled to refuse to take their seat and delay departure, and, by and large, I’ve only seen that behavior among those refusing to sit next to a woman.
anonymous JewParticipantKatanhatorah, laugh and make fun if you must , but you are entirely missing the point. Cuomo and DiBlasio may rip the rich but they desperately count on their taxes. The 1%s pay 40% of NY’s taxes and, while Trump may be the latest to leave, he certainly wasn’t the first and won’t be the last. According to moving company statistics, the states with the largest outflows are NY , NJ, Conn and Illinois. They are all high tax states. The 2 leading inflow states are Florida and Texas, both no tax states.
anonymous JewParticipantJoseph, not when 10 to 15 men are making the request and refuse to sit and delay the flight. If I have an aisle seat, I won’t move to a middle seat for a 12 hour flight to accomodate someone who is machmir on sitting next to a woman
anonymous JewParticipantNot everyone holds with hat and jacket, dipping or washing on pizza. You have your poskim, they have theirs. It’s interesting that you picked 3 that are not universally accepted and assumed your position is the correct one.
That is the problem with giving tochachaanonymous JewParticipantJust don’t say it’s a halacha
anonymous JewParticipantIt’s named after The Bronx River ( as per several historical sources ) which was named after Jonas Bronck, the first European settler in the area. It wasn’t called the Bronx until it was acquired by NYC in the late 1800s
anonymous JewParticipantUnclemo
I don’t use the TriangleK but your comment is worthless if you aren’t willing to name the Rov or the Rov is not willing to publicly own his comments. What if Plony made the same statement you did but with the opposite conclusion? Would you say oh great, now I can try Hebrew National? Of course not. So why do you expect your anonymous assurance of an unnamed Rov to be taken as proof?anonymous JewParticipantMore importantly, mesirah has been used to protect molesters and stop people from reporting them to the police.
It’s been a big issue in Melbourne since 2015 where molesters have gone unpunished and the victims who went public were punished by the community as mosers.anonymous JewParticipantJoseph, too many frum yidden have used mesirah as a shield to commit all kinds of bad acts. You block my driveway, I will be more than happy to call the cops.
anonymous JewParticipantCuomo rescinded the fee for the new plates yesterday
anonymous JewParticipantKatanhatorah, to really get an appreciation of denigration of those who they disagree with, just turn on CNN, MSNBC and any other leftist media. Lying? Just in the past two weeks CNN has had to retract phony stories as did the New York Times , which reported that planes flew themselves into the Trade Towers. You can go on YouTube and find any number of clips where Pres Trump clearly and unambiguously denounces racism, the KKK and white nationalists. Yet , during the last debate, Booker repeated the lie that Trump refuses to denounce racism. And, don’t forget, Warren’s academic career was based upon lying that she had legitimate Native American ancestry.
anonymous JewParticipantI checked with joseph
anonymous JewParticipantLast I checked, all baked goods are made in a central location and sent to the store. The problem with stores that sell trief sandwiches is that everything Is warmed in same oven.
DD doesn’t sell ice cream. Some are under same roof as Basken Robertsanonymous JewParticipantJoseph, what points are you talking about? You for the most part keep saying torah supercedes the law, and that one case will bankrupt a yeshiva. The law didn’t change the standard of proof, just the time frame to file. I agree with Syag. This issue is like Alice in Wonderland, every thing backwards. In our version of the Metoo movement, going back decades, it’s the molesters who must be believed, not the victims. Syag is also right in that molestation is not , for the most part a one time event and the school had to have been aware of what was occurring and should be held responsible, no matter how long ago it can be proven to have occurred.
anonymous JewParticipantPhilosopher, you keep assuming that all the cases being brought under the CVA will be 50 year old cases in which a victim just woke up.
It’s just not so. The 38 victims who filed yesterday had all done so previously, but had their cases thrown out because the statute of limitations had already passed. The victims who filed against Rockefeller University had also previously filed. The old laws maximum ages of 21 and 23 was in many cases to soon before victims were emotionally ready to file.anonymous JewParticipantWell, the first shoe has dropped. I had posited three categories where lawsuits were likely to come from. Yesterday 38 victims ( from category A – admission of guilt made after statute of limitations had expired ) filed lawsuits.
Joseph, if only one case in 25 years is too many, why did the Brooklyn institution and the summer camp protect that molester for 25 years?anonymous JewParticipantI left out the year of the meeting . It was 2010
anonymous JewParticipantPeople here are assuming that decades old cases will come out of the woodwork , with no proof, and file cases. While this will probably happen, they are ignoring the more probable cases:
A. Admissions of guilt made after statute of limitations had expired. Two examples: edited. Now, victims can file suit.
B. Victims who had previously filed suit with credible documentation but whose cases where dismissed because of statute of limitations.
C. Victims who are under 30 years old but the time to file had passed.I have 2 questions to ask of the posters who maintain that there were few cases of molestation in the frum community:
1. If there were so few cases, why was Agudah”s
longstanding opposition based upon yeshivas
being devastated by a flood of cases
2. Why was a handbook outlining the dangers of child abuse , and how to recognize and deal with it, given to 36 camp directors at an April 29 meeting in Flatbush? Written in Yiddish and English, it was prepared by the Moetzes Gedolei Hatorah of Agudath Israel. The camps represented were a who’s who of frum camps.anonymous JewParticipantI did some additional reading and it appears lawsuits can be brought against the actual abuser AND the institution/individuals who enabled them. The individuals do not have to be alive. The articles mentioned that one of the goals is to publicize the identity of abusers, even if they can’t obtain financial compensation. In California, approximately 300 previously unknown abusers were identified.
BTW, alluding to what I said earlier, my older sister can’t sue because she can’t prove it. Everyone who she told is now dead ( I was an infant and didn’t find out until many years later ) as are the abuser and the enablersanonymous JewParticipantTlik, you’ve constructed a strawman, claiming that the law allows anyone to stroll into court, offer zero proof and collect a check. Can you cite the section that permits this? My understanding is that proof is still required, the change being the statute of limitations.
anonymous JewParticipantJoseph, please stop. Bais Dins and yeshivas have ignored the problem for decades. That alone should be enough grounds to pursue justice in secular courts.
In October 2016 a prominent Brooklyn yeshiva agreed to pay a $2.1 million settlement for the sexual molestation of two boys. The molester had been allowed to teach for over 25 years, despite decades of allegations.So tell me Joseph, would a bais din have accomplished or resolved anything?
anonymous JewParticipantABBA, i agree that, as I mentioned above, lawyers are probably going to go after deep pocketed institutions ( the Catholic Church, Boy Scouts ) . When it comes to yeshivas,all they have to do is find wealthy board members and donors who would have the resources. Keep in mind that the National Agudah could be a target , primarily because of its summer camp.
From this morning’s paper, money does not appear to be everyone’s motivation. Some of the people suing simply want the organization/school/religious body to finally come clean and admit what they allowed to happen.anonymous JewParticipantSyag, the only reason I use that example is point out to Joseph that there are extenuating circumstances that can cause religious people to resort to civil court
anonymous JewParticipantPhilosopher, I didn’t say you said it, I just compared your undocumented assertion that many were false to the claims made in the CR in past years that all were false.
false. How do you know that many were unfairly imprisoned? Why does the new age limit to file bother you so much? Since these cases tend to taken on a contingency basis, my guess is a lawyer won’t accept a case he knows they can’t win. As to your other comment regarding age, my older sister was molested 68 years ago and her statute of limitations ran out in 1963. Age didn’t just wake up; my parents didn’t believe her and the Rosh Yeshiva wouldn’t act on it. As a result she stopped being religious.
Lake hill, the victims who are no longer frum are not going to go to bais din. Bais Dins aren’t exactly paragons of judicial virtue. A reason why the Satmer brothers have been in civil court is because ( surprise!!) each brothers bais din said they were right.anonymous JewParticipantJoseph, I can’t imagine a victim getting a fair hearing in a bais din. Just like the Satmer brothers who have been b.c battling it out in civil court for years, victims have no recourse other than secular courts
anonymous JewParticipantPhilosopher, you unfortunately sound like the people who , in the Coffee Room ) maintained that all the accusations were false. As Syag keeps pointing out, the facts will speak for themselves. Many people couldn’t/didn’t come forward earlier because the statute of limitations ran out at age 21 , which was the point of this law.
Even if the yeshivas win all lawsuits filed against them ( and there will be lawsuits ) the legal bills will be crippling.August 14, 2019 12:11 pm at 12:11 pm in reply to: Should Wedding gowns for the extended family be discontinued? #1774737anonymous JewParticipantPhilosopher, I hope no one who feels obligated to spend big bucks on one time gowns turns around and pleads poverty and requests yeshiva tuition reductions.
anonymous JewParticipantBeing crowded doesn’t necessarily mean busiest, nor does gross sales. My local Costco doesn’t appear to be busy until you notice that their cashiering process is very efficient and lines are almost never long . KMR’s prices are low, GG is high, so higher gross sales at GG wouldn’t mean they’re busier. You’d need to know things like volume sold, and number of transactions.
August 14, 2019 8:59 am at 8:59 am in reply to: Should Wedding gowns for the extended family be discontinued? #1774647anonymous JewParticipantI think people should mind their own business and stop telling others what to do ( assuming what they’re doing is not in violation of halacha)
August 12, 2019 6:34 pm at 6:34 pm in reply to: Terribly Missing the Gedolei Europe who built Torah Yiddishkeit in America #1773050anonymous JewParticipantZahavasdad, the change in the shtetl allowing Jews to leave for the big cities had to happen first. You couldn’t stay in the shtetl if you were no longer frum
August 12, 2019 8:01 am at 8:01 am in reply to: Terribly Missing the Gedolei Europe who built Torah Yiddishkeit in America #1772621anonymous JewParticipantI hate to be the spoilsport but some of these alte heim beliefs don’t hold up under closer examination. The “world that we lost” was already being lost, well before the Holocaust, despite the best efforts of the Gedolim.
Assimilation had been thwarted in Eastern Europe because government laws kept Jews essentially poor and confined to the shtetl, where they were more easily influenced by the Gedolim to stay frum.
However, by the end of the 1800’s, more and more shtetl youth, no longer banned by government, were leaving for the big cities, attracted by the isms ( socialism, anarchism, communism, Zionism ) . Assimilation was growing .The communist party and other radical groups were full of Jews who grew up in frum homes. If the Holocaust had not occurred, Eastern European Jewry was well on it’s way to looking like Western Europe. There are many family bare headed on line depicting the generational change going on ( fathers with long beards and mothers with hats; sons who are cleanshaven and bareheaded )anonymous JewParticipantKtorah, Sanders likened Baltimore to a third world country, it’s Mayor said she could smell the rats and Cummings himself called it drug infested. Trumps comments did not mention race or ethnicity.
anonymous JewParticipantKatanhatorah, GG affordable? You’ve got to be kidding! My wife will only buy there what is not available in regular supermarkets or Costco. Did you get this info from MSNBC or CNN?
anonymous JewParticipantAkuperma , you’ve bought the media kool-ade
Trump is not anti-immigrant, he is against Illegal immigration. He’s very much in favor of merit based immigration, people who have skills to offeranonymous JewParticipantA 0% can be bad and 10% can be good.
The unemployment rate simply is a measure of people seeking employment. If there are 3,000,000 without jobs but are no longer looking for work, the unemployment rate would be zero, and not good.
If the economy picked up, jobs were being created and all 3,000,000 went back into the job market, the rate would be higher, but that be goodanonymous JewParticipantThe headline to this thread is what is misleading. They are not moving to Baltimore, it would be opening a branch
anonymous JewParticipantThe Arlington has a shul on the premises and is kosher
anonymous JewParticipantJoseph, this time you’ve really gone off the rails. Public schools are supported by tax dollars of ALL people, whether they have children in school or not. Yeshivas are supported only by parents of the students. Big difference. Public schools are legally required to accept all students, yeshivas are not.
anonymous JewParticipantWhat is “exacturation”?
July 16, 2019 7:03 pm at 7:03 pm in reply to: ICE Sweeps…It’s not just Brown and Hispanics being rounded up for deportation #1760207anonymous JewParticipantTo mod 29: thanks for reminding me
July 16, 2019 2:45 pm at 2:45 pm in reply to: ICE Sweeps…It’s not just Brown and Hispanics being rounded up for deportation #1759908anonymous JewParticipantFind a way to make your point without calling people names – 29
Remind me again of how many Democrats, either in Congress or running for President, stepped forward to
A. Condemn the squad for their numerous
antisemitic tweets
B. Condemn Sen Booker for saying he had no
problem meeting with Farrakhan
C. Condemn ongoing Hamas rocket attacks
D. Condemn AOC ( and her Chief of Staff ) for
Implying that moderate Democrats and
speaker Pelosi are racists?July 16, 2019 12:22 pm at 12:22 pm in reply to: ICE Sweeps…It’s not just Brown and Hispanics being rounded up for deportation #1759144anonymous JewParticipantKatanhatorah and CTLIBERAL,,
I see that you have not been able to find treatment for Trump Derangement Syndrome. Let me point out a few facts:
A. President Obama was responsible for an average
of 475,000 deportations during his presidency.
B. President Trump is averaging 250,000
C. Under Obama, the annual number of
illegal immigrants who died while crossing
the border ranged from 252-471
D. Under Trump the numbers are 298 (2017)
and 283 ( 2018 )
E. Every time the media tries to vilify Trump for
separating kids , they invariably show
pictures taken while Obama was in office.
F. Since January the Democrats refused to
pass a humanitarian aid bill by first denying
there was a crisis, then calling it a
manufactured crisis and finally, blamed
Trump for their current condition.So, did you two ever compare Obama to Hitler?
Call him Herr Obama? I doubt it.July 8, 2019 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm in reply to: Deducting Stars in Your Online Review: What is Proper Consumer Practice? #1754092anonymous JewParticipantYitzyk, and saying that I’m an ignorant halachic dening poster is not lashon harah?
July 8, 2019 11:37 am at 11:37 am in reply to: Deducting Stars in Your Online Review: What is Proper Consumer Practice? #1753824anonymous JewParticipantJoseph, by definition, a merchant who sells defective,misrepresented and misidentified merchandise and fails to make good on it is not a shomer Torah u’mitzvos.
anonymous JewParticipantKatan, do you understand English? The OP clearly stated that people should keep their opinions re visiting day to themselves
anonymous JewParticipantIf the idea was to make it a struggle to learn, the gemorah would have been written in Hebrew, not Aramaic. Aramaic was the everyday spoken language of the people, as is English in the US
anonymous JewParticipantThere was a story in the 5 Towns Jewish Times by Rabbi Hoffman that dealt with the subject of the outwardly frum. Yanky was considered a great catch. Twelve years in the best local yeshiva followed by two years of learning in one of the top Israeli yeshiva’s. So, his wife was shocked when, by accident, she discovered that he was spending each morning having breakfast at a non kosher coffee shop, not at minyan. His wife pleaded with Rabbi Hoffman to find out why. Yanky told the Rabbi that he had no feelings for yiddiskeit. Yes , he had learned for 14 years but his studies had focused virtually exclusively on the Gemara. He never had any classes that dealt with emunah, davening, or how to relate to Hashem unless it was tangenital to a sugya he was learning. It left him indifferent to being religious. So, on Friday night he would go to shul with his sons, come home, make kiddush, sing zmiros and, after his wife and kids were asleep, go to the basement and watch basketball games on his laptop. He didn’t see it as a contradiction and added he wasn’t alone among his friends who felt that way.
anonymous JewParticipantGrey matter, just the opposite . We have to be consistent. If restaurant reviews are LH then so are community reviews or any other review ( contractors, seminaries etc )
anonymous JewParticipantAnd from the other side, how is talking about Brooklyn’s dirty streets different than a restaurant’s dirty floors?
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